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YoshitoKikuchi
04/16/18 5:00:04 PM
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04/16/18 5:03:17 PM
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edededdy
04/16/18 5:03:51 PM
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Trevor is an unfunny comedian and im also not reading that wall of text
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CyricZ
04/16/18 5:04:57 PM
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Everything's relative to your own experience.

And for context, this is a passage from Trevor's book. It references a time in his life when he was a DJ and got gigs with friends, one of whom had the unfortunate name of Hitler, although neither Trevor nor his friends got the context, because they weren't taught the same way other folks were taught about history. It led to a considerably awkward moment when he got a gig performing for some Jewish people.
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-Bungle-
04/16/18 5:05:02 PM
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I don't trust any little shit that criticizes the US, but has a British accent. What's up with all them? Trevor Noah, the short cuck on HBO... the list goes on.
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gumbercules89
04/16/18 5:05:06 PM
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Trevor Noah is an idiot, however i do agree with him on this issue.

My one question is, are there even history books in Africa?
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Taharqa_
04/16/18 5:05:20 PM
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Well, he's right.
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Hayame Zero
04/16/18 5:06:46 PM
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Makes sense to me.
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CyricZ
04/16/18 5:07:30 PM
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-Bungle- posted...
but has a British accent

Trevor is South African. His accent is a mishmash of the culture he grew up in but his mother was Xhosa. I question your worldliness when you don't care to even note the "South Africa" part of his quote there.
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-Bungle-
04/16/18 5:08:27 PM
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CyricZ posted...
-Bungle- posted...
but has a British accent

Trevor is South African. His accent is a mishmash of the culture he grew up in but his mother was Xhosa. I question your worldliness when you don't care to even note the "South Africa" part of his quote there.

My bad. I love you.
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antfair
04/16/18 5:09:04 PM
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This seems surprisingly good coming from Noah
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RetsuZaiZen
04/16/18 5:10:12 PM
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Interesting when you think of the context.
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Alucard188
04/16/18 5:10:30 PM
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I more or less agree with him. People only care about history that's relevant to them. It's why Armenians care about the genocide of their people (and that Turkey outright ignores that it happened). It doesn't downplay the events of other atrocities, but it makes it far less relevant to people who aren't of that heritage.

gumbercules89 posted...
Trevor Noah is an idiot, however i do agree with him on this issue.

My one question is, are there even history books in Africa?


>_>

Really?
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UnfairRepresent
04/16/18 5:15:29 PM
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It's a pretty dumb thing to say really

"People will think the history told to them is more important than history never taught to them" fair enough

"We're not sure exactly how many people died in this dispute, therefore its worse than the literal holocaust" is just dumb
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Awesome
04/16/18 5:15:29 PM
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Guy just killed his career, in the media you never insult jewish people.
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g0ldie
04/16/18 5:16:06 PM
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Well, he's right.

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g0ldie
04/16/18 5:16:29 PM
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Awesome posted...
Guy just killed his career, in the media you never insult jewish people.

he didn't insult Jewish people, though.
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pinky0926
04/16/18 5:17:36 PM
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I understand the desire to draw more attention to other atrocities but this comes across like some kind of perverse dick-swinging contest to be honest.
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Fam_Fam
04/16/18 5:18:49 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
It's a pretty dumb thing to say really

"People will think the history told to them is more important than history never taught to them" fair enough

"We're not sure exactly how many people died in this dispute, therefore its worse than the literal holocaust" is just dumb


i dont think he said they are worse. he's saying we don't have the information to make the comparison, so we can't do so.
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Mr_Biscuit
04/16/18 5:19:33 PM
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Ricemills
04/16/18 5:20:18 PM
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CyricZ
04/16/18 5:23:22 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
I understand the desire to draw more attention to other atrocities but this comes across like some kind of perverse dick-swinging contest to be honest.

See my first post. In a vacuum it comes across like that but he uses it as context for a story about his younger days.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/16/18 5:27:07 PM
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Hitler mechanized murder in a way never seen before, what he did was uniquely special and insidious.
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prince_leo
04/16/18 5:32:54 PM
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he's not wrong but it feels like it doesn't need to be said
although, I suppose there are some people who need to hear that Hitler was not the only bad guy and possibly not even the worst in history. so who knows? but I don't see this as attacking people
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g0ldie
04/16/18 5:35:52 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Hitler mechanized murder in a way never seen before, what he did was uniquely special and insidious.

and the Rwandan Genocide was the quickest killing spree; that says nothing for the amount of suffering that people experienced throughout all of atrocities across history
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RetsuZaiZen
04/16/18 5:52:55 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
It's a pretty dumb thing to say really

"People will think the history told to them is more important than history never taught to them" fair enough

"We're not sure exactly how many people died in this dispute, therefore its worse than the literal holocaust" is just dumb


i dont think he said they are worse. he's saying we don't have the information to make the comparison, so we can't do so.


Did you read the username?
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TheCyborgNinja
04/16/18 5:59:00 PM
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Westerners do not tend to dwell on victimization or atrocities outside of the Holocaust because they've only really suffered at their own hands for so long and nothing else has been of major significance compared to said Holocaust. It is something I see as bad (duh), but it doesn't evoke any actual feelings from me beyond "that sucked." None of this stuff does, because I can't relate.

The only major victimization my ancestors really suffered came at the hands of the Russians, who would have probably put them in gulags if they hadn't fled west. My family never harboured any ill will towards the Russians though, at least as far as I can see, they just started over and made something of themselves again in new places. If I was personally disadvantaged and wanted to blame somebody else, that's who I'd go with, but my family is relatively wealthy again so I don't care.
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lilORANG
04/16/18 6:06:33 PM
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I agree with the first half about different cultures wanting to kill different babies, but i think the holocaust is definitely a contender for worst atrocity in history.
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gguirao
04/16/18 6:06:41 PM
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Makes sense.
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pinky0926
04/16/18 6:07:19 PM
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CyricZ posted...
pinky0926 posted...
I understand the desire to draw more attention to other atrocities but this comes across like some kind of perverse dick-swinging contest to be honest.

See my first post. In a vacuum it comes across like that but he uses it as context for a story about his younger days.


Fair enough. Context!
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CommonStar
04/16/18 6:09:12 PM
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He's right
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K181
04/16/18 6:10:39 PM
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There are plenty of Americans that'd undo 9/11 before they undid the holocaust, so I don't see this as a controversial statement whatsoever.
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nicklebro
04/16/18 6:15:15 PM
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He's right, people need to stop hating on him, he's a pretty interesting guy.
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iPhone_7
04/16/18 6:15:58 PM
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Let us also not forget the genocides & other atrocities Gengis Khan committed.
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antfair
04/16/18 6:21:19 PM
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I'm reminded of this Twain quote...
THERE were two Reigns of Terror, if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the horrors of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terrorthat unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.

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Fin_Dawg_004
04/16/18 6:21:41 PM
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he is right
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YoshitoKikuchi
04/16/18 8:13:17 PM
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Lathissamus
04/16/18 8:22:26 PM
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Darmik
04/16/18 8:26:57 PM
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Seems fair enough. 9/11 is another example.

He's not saying that one atrocity is worse than another and he's not saying that only one country is guilty of thinking this way.
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HydraSlayer82
04/16/18 8:27:36 PM
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Paragraphs what are they
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E32005
04/16/18 8:28:25 PM
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he's right.

but conservative america will lose its shit
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YoshitoKikuchi
04/17/18 12:20:28 AM
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JordanPeterson
04/17/18 12:21:55 AM
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Dash_Harber
04/17/18 12:26:11 AM
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I get what he is saying, though I think he is leaving out a crucial detail; while the sum of African treatment has been absolutely atrocious and completely unforgivable, the Nazis represent a point in our collective history where the genocide of a person was no longer a military objective, but an industrial one. It's a hallmark on human history. The exact point that we turned our collective progress and innovation on its side and decided to use the amazing machines we had built to try and wipe out 17 million innocent people. So yeah, I think it's pretty fucking important that we don't shy away from reminding people how fucking horrible that was.
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GigaSPX
04/17/18 12:29:17 AM
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g0ldie posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Well, he's right.

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DifferentialEquation
04/17/18 12:34:30 AM
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So, for the past ~2 years liberals have been comparing Trump to Hitler, calling his supporters Nazis, acting like Trump is going to destroy the world, etc. But now their beloved Trevor Noah is low-key praising Hitler and they have nothing to say about it.
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KingArthur3D
04/17/18 12:34:53 AM
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YoshitoKikuchi posted...
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g0ldie
04/17/18 12:37:12 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...

you should check out the atrocities committed in the Congo during Belgium rule

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocities_in_the_Congo_Free_State

idk if they were part of a military objective, tbh.
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Ricemills
04/17/18 12:37:35 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
So, for the past ~2 years liberals have been comparing Trump to Hitler, calling his supporters Nazis, acting like Trump is going to destroy the world, etc. But now their beloved Trevor Noah is low-key praising Hitler and they have nothing to say about it.


lol how the fuck someone get "low-key praising hitler" from that quote.

yes, CE. i know who i'm responding to. but some things are just too ridiculous to ignore.
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