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SoundNetwork
04/07/18 1:13:16 PM
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Is it because elsa is so much hotter than moana?
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BLAKUboy
04/07/18 1:17:30 PM
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Better movie with a more relatable message.
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Puglia77
04/07/18 1:25:04 PM
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Better songs
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fire_bolt
04/07/18 1:26:16 PM
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Bullshit. "Shiny" alone was better than every song in Frozen
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yusiko
04/07/18 1:27:52 PM
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better characters, better story, better songs, a better looking setting

moana is a good movie but its not as good as frozen or zootopia
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SoundNetwork
04/07/18 1:29:21 PM
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yusiko posted...
better characters, better story, better songs, a better looking setting

moana is a good movie but its not as good as frozen or zootopia

Hotter characters?
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Puglia77
04/07/18 1:29:22 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
Bullshit. "Shiny" alone was better than every song in Frozen

Imagine thinking this
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SoundNetwork
04/07/18 1:29:34 PM
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SoundNetwork posted...
yusiko posted...
better characters, better story, better songs, a better looking setting

moana is a good movie but its not as good as frozen or zootopia

Hotter characters?

Hotter rabbit?
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yusiko
04/07/18 1:34:16 PM
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SoundNetwork posted...
yusiko posted...
better characters, better story, better songs, a better looking setting

moana is a good movie but its not as good as frozen or zootopia

Hotter characters?


kristoff and hans are hotter than maui
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AlecSkorpio
04/07/18 1:34:47 PM
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Cause the main characters were white.

JK but I'm surprised nobody has said that yet
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Letron_James
04/07/18 1:37:32 PM
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Moana is a a shade too dark to get mainstream appeal unfortunately :(
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Nomadic View
04/07/18 1:41:40 PM
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AlecSkorpio posted...
Cause the main characters were white.

JK but I'm surprised nobody has said that yet


Letron_James posted...
Moana is a a shade too dark to get mainstream appeal unfortunately :(


There you go. I thought we was going to have to summon @FrisbeeDude or @robellr13 before we got a good victim complex post.
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AceAttorneyist
04/07/18 1:47:14 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
Bullshit. "Shiny" alone was better than every song in Frozen


Shiny was the worst song in that movie by FAR
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Wetterdew
04/07/18 1:50:15 PM
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They're both good but I definitely prefer Frozen. Frozen's main song "Let it Go" is also more memorable than Moana's. Also, Moana is fairly by-the-books when it comes to its plot, compared to Frozen.

Here's what Wikipedia says, though:

When Frozen became a box office success, Bilge Ebiri of Vulture analyzed the film's elements and suggested eight factors that might have led to its success. He thought Frozen managed to capture the classic Disney spirit of the Disney Renaissance films and early classics such as Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and Cinderella.[271] He also wrote that the film has Olaf, a "wisecracking, irreverent" sidekick with mild humor which is "a requirement of modern animated kids' movies," and its "witty, catchy" songs were "pretty good."[271] Furthermore, Ebiri noted that Frozen was a "revisionist" film that didn't "have a typical villain"; Elsa, the person who should be the villain didn't turn out to be a villain, but "a girl who's having trouble." She was the one who "[created] most of the challenges [for] the film's more typical heroes Princess Anna."[271] The story of two sisters who were separated as they grew up held real-life overtones for many audience members who had siblings, and the struggle of Elsa to overcome the shame and fear of her powers was also relatable.[271] Finally, he identified several factors which he believed attracted female audiences: two strong female characters; a twist on the usual romantic subplot, when the traditional "Prince Charming" Hans turned out to be a gold-digging villain; and the "act of true love" which saved Anna was her own sacrifice in saving Elsa.[271]
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Wetterdew
04/07/18 1:50:19 PM
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Scott Davis of Forbes credited the film's commercial success to its marketing aimed at both sexes, and to the success of its soundtrack.[272]

The commercial success of Frozen in Japan was considered to be a "phenomenon"[58] which received widespread media coverage. Released in that market as Anna and the Snow Queen,[273][274] the film increased its gross each week in its three first weeks of release, and only started to drop in the fourth; while other films usually peak in the opening week and decline in the latter ones.[275] Frozen has received over 7 million admissions in Japan as of April 16,[273] and nearly 18.7 million admissions as of June 23.[276] Many cinemagoers were reported to have watched both the original and the Japanese-dubbed version.[274] Japan Today also reported that the local dubbed version was "particularly popular" in the country.[273] Gavin J. Blair of The Hollywood Reporter commented on the film's earnings in Japan: "Even after its $9.6 million (986.4 million) three-day opening, a record bow for a Disney animation in Japan, few would have predicted the kind of numbers Frozen has now racked up."[276] Disney's head of distribution Dave Hollis said in an interview that "It's become very clear that the themes and emotions of Frozen transcend geography, but what's going on in Japan is extraordinary."[277][278]

"Frozen's success doesn't benefit from a general appetite for American films in Japan" (as reported by the International Business Times),[279] but according to Akira Lippit of the USC School of Cinematic Arts, there were several factors that constituted this phenomenon: besides the fact that animated films "are held in great regard in Japan, and the Disney brand name with all of its heritage is extremely valuable", "the biggest reason is the primary audience ... 13- to 17-year-old teenage girls."[277] He further explained that audiences of this age range have a vital role in shaping Japanese pop culture and "Frozen has so many elements that appeal to them, with its story of a young girl with power and mystique, who finds her own sort of good in herself."[277] He compared the film's current situation with a similar phenomenon which occurred with Titanic in 1997, "when millions of Japanese teen girls turned out to watch Leonard[o] DiCaprio go under several times," and thought the same would happen with Frozen.[277] Another reason that contributed to the film's success in the market was that Disney took great care in choosing "high quality"[279] voice actors for the Japanese-dubbed version, since Japan's pop music scene had an important role particularly with teenage audiences.[277] Orika Hiromura, Disney Japan's marketing project leader for Frozen, said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal: "We really put effort into finding actors who could not only play the role but also belt out the tunes as well. We found the perfect match in Takako Matsu and Sayaka Kanda, and they really added a whole new dimension to the storytelling."[168]

When asked about the success of Frozen, director Chris Buck stated: "We never expected anything like this. We just hoped to make a movie that did as well as Tangled! I hoped the audience would embrace it and respond to it, but there's no way we could have predicted this."[58] He cited a number of reasons for the film's popularity: "There are characters that people relate to; the songs are so strong and memorable. We also have some flawed characters, which is what Jen[nifer Lee] and I like to do we essentially create two imperfect princesses."[58] As Frozen approached the first anniversary of its release, Menzel mentioned the film's continuing popularity in an October 2014 interview: "It's just a remarkable thing. Usually you do a project and it has its moment. This just feels like it keeps going."[280]
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FrisbeeDude
04/07/18 3:14:27 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
AlecSkorpio posted...
Cause the main characters were white.

JK but I'm surprised nobody has said that yet


Letron_James posted...
Moana is a a shade too dark to get mainstream appeal unfortunately :(


There you go. I thought we was going to have to summon @FrisbeeDude or @robellr13 before we got a good victim complex post.


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yusiko
04/07/18 3:20:11 PM
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here is prince hans from disney's frozen singing about urinary tract infections

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ytnBRjmDXs" data-time="

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KILBOTz
04/07/18 3:29:29 PM
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More little girls would rather wear a princess dress than a Maori tunic
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KingCrabCake
04/07/18 3:31:09 PM
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Letron_James posted...
Moana is a a shade too dark to get mainstream appeal unfortunately :(

Ya too bad Black Panther didnt get any main stream appeal
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gatorsPENSbucs
04/07/18 3:35:54 PM
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I dont know, but Moana is a shit ton better than frozen.
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Nomadic View
04/07/18 7:19:10 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Nomadic View posted...
AlecSkorpio posted...
Cause the main characters were white.

JK but I'm surprised nobody has said that yet


Letron_James posted...
Moana is a a shade too dark to get mainstream appeal unfortunately :(


There you go. I thought we was going to have to summon @FrisbeeDude or @robellr13 before we got a good victim complex post.


Stay thirsty, my friend



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Sphyx
04/08/18 4:19:44 AM
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KILBOTz posted...
Maori tunic

?
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tremain07
04/08/18 4:21:57 AM
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The sex appeal of two very attached sisters is too much for the perverts to ignore, Frozen will continue to exist while Moana will be as forgotten as Brave
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ShinigamiSoul
04/08/18 4:26:02 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
I dont know, but Moana is a shit ton better than frozen.

Agreed
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Tupacrulez
04/08/18 4:35:23 AM
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No idea.

Moana was a bajillion times better.
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8-bit_Biceps
04/08/18 4:51:11 AM
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White characters.

The blue font of Frozen is more indicative of the Disney castle logo and stuff.

I always thought 'Frozen' was kind of in the same theme as 'Tangled'. They're both one word, CGI, and adjectives.
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EverDownward
04/08/18 4:55:45 AM
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White characters
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NibeIungsnarf
04/08/18 5:00:22 AM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Better movie with a more relatable message.

Puglia77 posted...
Better songs

yusiko posted...
better characters, better story, better songs, a better looking setting

moana is a good movie but its not as good as frozen or zootopia

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FluttershyPony
04/08/18 5:00:44 AM
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look at the color of their skin, their racial features, the setting.

gotta have lesbian pale blondes for that cash money
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yusiko
04/08/18 5:04:46 AM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
I dont know, but Moana is a shit ton better than frozen.

Agreed


Tupacrulez posted...
No idea.

Moana was a bajillion times better.


you guys are shining examples to use to show that opinions can be wrong :)
congratulations
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Tupacrulez
04/08/18 11:37:24 AM
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yusiko posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
I dont know, but Moana is a shit ton better than frozen.

Agreed


Tupacrulez posted...
No idea.

Moana was a bajillion times better.


you guys are shining examples to use to show that opinions can be wrong :)
congratulations


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prince_leo
04/08/18 11:50:28 AM
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Frozen is based off of story by a European, so it's easier for Americans to digest compared to Moana which is a love story to Polynesian culture.
People also think it has better songs for some reason.
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