Current Events > Baton Rouge police officers won't be charged re: shooting of Alton Sterling

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_OujiDoza_
03/27/18 11:42:12 AM
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Prosecutors in Louisiana said Tuesday that the Baton Rouge police officers involved in the fatal shooting of Alton Sterling will not face criminal charges, a decision announced nearly two years after his death prompted intense protests.

Sterling was killed in July 2016 by officers responding to a call about a man who had threatened someone with a gun. The Baton Rouge officers then encountered Sterling, 37, selling CDs outside of a convenience store, and fatally shot him during an encounter that lasted less than 90 seconds.

This decision was not taken lightly, Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry said while announcing Tuesday morning that no criminal charges would be brought.

Landry said the state could not proceed with a prosecution of either officer involved based on an extensive review of evidence gathered by federal authorities as well as his offices own investigation.

The Justice Department last year decided against bringing federal charges against officers Blane Salamoni and Howie Lake, concluding that there was insufficient evidence to prove that they violated Sterlings civil rights. Federal law sets a very high bar for civil rights charges against officers, requiring that authorities prove an officers intent at the time of the shooting.

Sterlings death in July 2016 came at a fraught moment of racial tumult nationwide amid shootings by and of police officers. A day after Sterlings death prompted outrage and protests, an officer in Minnesota shot and killed Philando Castile, a school cafeteria worker, during a traffic stop, the aftermath of which was streamed live on Facebook. That same week, five police officers in Dallas were gunned down by a black man upset at police, and just days later, another gunman killed three officers in Baton Rouge.

After the Justice Department said in May 2017 it would not pursue charges, Landry said he would launch a state probe into the shooting. His office took over a state investigation into whether the officers would face criminal charges after Hillar C. Moore III, the prosecutor for East Baton Rouge, recused himself from the investigation because he had a prior relationship with Salamonis parents, both of whom worked with the Baton Rouge police

The Justice Departments decision not to pursue charges in the Sterling case marked the first time under Attorney General Jeff Sessions that the department declined to prosecute a police officer investigated for wrongdoing in a high-profile case. That decision caused frustration in Baton Rouge not only for the lack of charges, but also because the news was reported by The Washington Post before federal officials had informed Sterlings family.

The Justice Department is also still weighing whether to bring charges in the of 43-year-old Eric Garner, who died after he was taken to the ground and put in an apparent chokehold by New York City police in 2014.

But while they declined to pursue charges in Sterlings death, federal authorities provided Sterlings family with new details about his death. After meeting with investigators, Chris Stewart, the lead attorney for the Sterling family, told reporters that evidence shows that at the beginning of the interaction with Sterling, Officer Salamoni put his gun to Sterlings head, and said, Ill kill you, b-.

Video of the following 90 seconds shows officers telling Sterling to put his hands on the hood of a car. When he did not, a struggle ensued with Salamoni pulling out his gun and pointing it at Sterlings head and later Lake shooting Sterling with a taser.

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_OujiDoza_
03/27/18 11:42:25 AM
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Salamoni tackled Sterling and, with Sterling on his back with both officers on top of him, one of the officers appears to yell Hes got a gun! Then shots rang out.

While fatal shootings by police have continued at about the same pace as previous years, according to The Washington Posts database tracking these incidents, these incidents have drawn less national attention and largely faded from the national political debate.

Some fatal shootings still prompt widespread media attention, including the death earlier this month of Stephon Clark, an unarmed black man shot and killed by Sacramento police officers while in his grandmothers backyard. The death of Clark, who was holding an iPhone at the time that police said they mistook for a gun, has given way to extended protests in that city.

Charges against officers for on-duty shootings are uncommon, and convictions in such cases are even more rare. Last week, a Minneapolis police officer who fatally shot an unarmed Australian woman in 2017 was charged with murder and manslaughter. Those charges came about nine months after a jury in Minnesota acquitted the officer who shot and killed Philando Castile during the traffic stop a day after Sterling was killed.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
03/27/18 11:44:05 AM
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We don't have evidence that they meant to kill him.

"I'll KILL YOU B****"

Hmmm....
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Zikten
03/27/18 11:44:34 AM
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The cop that shouted "hes got a gun!" Should be in trouble. He lied or panicked and worsened the situation. Wtf is his problem?
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Were_Wyrm
03/27/18 11:45:18 AM
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LA gonna LA
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CableZL
03/27/18 11:46:37 AM
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_OujiDoza_ posted...
Federal law sets a very high bar for civil rights charges against officers, requiring that authorities prove an officers intent at the time of the shooting.

_OujiDoza_ posted...
Officer Salamoni put his gun to Sterlings head, and said, Ill kill you, b-.

_OujiDoza_ posted...
no criminal charges

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_RETS_
03/27/18 11:46:38 AM
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Zikten posted...
The cop that shouted "hes got a gun!" Should be in trouble. He lied or panicked and worsened the situation. Wtf is his problem?


He did have a gun, didn't he?
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Paper_Okami
03/27/18 11:46:56 AM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
LA gonna LA


this literally happens across the country.
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spudger
03/27/18 11:51:52 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
We don't have evidence that they meant to kill him.

"I'll KILL YOU B****"

Hmmm....

Pigs gonna pig
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Zikten
03/27/18 11:53:01 AM
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_RETS_ posted...
Zikten posted...
The cop that shouted "hes got a gun!" Should be in trouble. He lied or panicked and worsened the situation. Wtf is his problem?


He did have a gun, didn't he?

They found no weapon unless I am mixing up cases. They though he had a gun in the dispatch but he was unarmed when they shot him. But some cop shouted he thought he saw a gun during the fight
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Two_Dee
03/27/18 11:53:03 AM
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BarneyBosco
03/27/18 11:55:18 AM
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_RETS_ posted...
Zikten posted...
The cop that shouted "hes got a gun!" Should be in trouble. He lied or panicked and worsened the situation. Wtf is his problem?


He did have a gun, didn't he?

Yeah. The cops were protecting themselves, how are they to know what someone resisting arrest with a gun is capable of. Shoot first, ask questions later.
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darkjedilink
03/27/18 11:59:27 AM
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Zikten posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Zikten posted...
The cop that shouted "hes got a gun!" Should be in trouble. He lied or panicked and worsened the situation. Wtf is his problem?

He did have a gun, didn't he?

They found no weapon unless I am mixing up cases. They though he had a gun in the dispatch but he was unarmed when they shot him. But some cop shouted he thought he saw a gun during the fight

He had a gun in his right pocket. That he was actively reaching for during the incident.

That he wasn't legally supposed to have, being a convicted pedophile.
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darkjedilink
03/27/18 12:00:11 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
They already had him on the ground and subdued, it was an execution.

Subdued people actively reach for a firearm on their person?
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_OujiDoza_
03/27/18 12:00:29 PM
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Ah there they go...took longer than usual...
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_RETS_
03/27/18 12:01:24 PM
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Zikten posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Zikten posted...
The cop that shouted "hes got a gun!" Should be in trouble. He lied or panicked and worsened the situation. Wtf is his problem?


He did have a gun, didn't he?

They found no weapon unless I am mixing up cases. They though he had a gun in the dispatch but he was unarmed when they shot him. But some cop shouted he thought he saw a gun during the fight


I think you do have it mixed up. He had a gun on his person
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Kaname_Madoka
03/27/18 12:21:14 PM
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CableZL posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
Federal law sets a very high bar for civil rights charges against officers, requiring that authorities prove an officers intent at the time of the shooting.

_OujiDoza_ posted...
Officer Salamoni put his gun to Sterlings head, and said, Ill kill you, b-.

_OujiDoza_ posted...
no criminal charges

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darkjedilink
03/27/18 12:26:12 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
CableZL posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
Federal law sets a very high bar for civil rights charges against officers, requiring that authorities prove an officers intent at the time of the shooting.

_OujiDoza_ posted...
Officer Salamoni put his gun to Sterlings head, and said, Ill kill you, b-.

_OujiDoza_ posted...
no criminal charges

Which kinda suggests it's bullshit, because if there was evidence that was said, charges would have been filed.

This also wouldn't be the first anyone has heard of it - that would have been reported day one by the multitude of witnesses present.
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StucklnMyPants
03/27/18 12:29:48 PM
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_OujiDoza_ posted...
Federal law sets a very high bar for civil rights charges against officers, requiring that authorities prove an officers intent at the time of the shooting.

Then maybe it's time for that to change. Shouldn't everyone be held to the same standard?
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Ammonitida
03/27/18 12:40:35 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
CableZL posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
Federal law sets a very high bar for civil rights charges against officers, requiring that authorities prove an officers intent at the time of the shooting.

_OujiDoza_ posted...
Officer Salamoni put his gun to Sterlings head, and said, Ill kill you, b-.

_OujiDoza_ posted...
no criminal charges

Which kinda suggests it's bullshit, because if there was evidence that was said, charges would have been filed.

This also wouldn't be the first anyone has heard of it - that would have been reported day one by the multitude of witnesses present.


Two independent investigations found no evidence of wrongdoing by these officers. Anti-cop internet warriors on Gamefaqs don't give a shit about evidence though.
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Ammonitida
03/27/18 12:42:34 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
They already had him on the ground and subdued, it was an execution.

Subdued people actively reach for a firearm on their person?

He was subdued except for a squirming arm. And the cop who shot him would have easily prevented his squirming arm from going anywhere.

Instead he executed him.


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ultimate reaver
03/27/18 12:43:32 PM
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of course not
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Nomadic View
03/27/18 12:44:05 PM
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Good.
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Ammonitida
03/27/18 12:47:14 PM
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_OujiDoza_ posted...
Ah there they go...took longer than usual...


How dare anyone question the narrative that directly led to the murders of three officers that same year. It's too bad Sterling did have a gun and was NOT subdued, before the fatal shots were fired.
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_OujiDoza_
03/27/18 12:50:33 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
It's too bad Sterling did have a gun and was NOT subdued, before the fatal shots were fired.

wat
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_RETS_
03/27/18 1:25:14 PM
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_OujiDoza_ posted...
Ammonitida posted...
It's too bad Sterling did have a gun and was NOT subdued, before the fatal shots were fired.

wat


Meaning he was armed and actively going for his weapon.

But please won't someone think of the poor criminals
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Blue_Inigo
03/27/18 1:27:48 PM
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Fuck the police
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Patchwork
03/27/18 1:29:19 PM
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You can't tell if he's reaching for a gun, but he was armed.
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Patchwork
03/27/18 1:29:31 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Fuck the police


Fuck you.
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darkjedilink
03/27/18 1:30:47 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
Federal law sets a very high bar for civil rights charges against officers, requiring that authorities prove an officers intent at the time of the shooting.

Then maybe it's time for that to change. Shouldn't everyone be held to the same standard?

Who isn't held to that standard? Why is that standard not good enough?
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darkjedilink
03/27/18 1:33:48 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Fuck the police

Imagine hating cops so much that you'd defend an illegally-armed pedophile.
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TheVipaGTS
03/28/18 10:14:07 AM
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they operate under a different set of laws than the rest of us.
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darkjedilink
03/28/18 10:24:19 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
they operate under a different set of laws than the rest of us.

Imagine hating cops so much that you'd defend an illegally-armed pedophile.
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TheVipaGTS
03/28/18 10:26:50 AM
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who posted?
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RE_expert44
03/28/18 10:28:33 AM
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The justice system has spoken. Hopefully a bunch of people don't riot because of this. But you know it's bound to happen
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darkjedilink
03/28/18 10:54:14 AM
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RE_expert44 posted...
The justice system has spoken. Hopefully a bunch of people don't riot because of this. But you know it's bound to happen

That, and the waste of taxpayer dollars the Mayor of BR is going to implement - YET ANOTHER investigation, because the last two exonerating the officers apparently didn't get everything.
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_OujiDoza_
03/28/18 11:27:25 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
The justice system has spoken. Hopefully a bunch of people don't riot because of this. But you know it's bound to happen

That, and the waste of taxpayer dollars the Mayor of BR is going to implement - YET ANOTHER investigation, because the last two exonerating the officers apparently didn't get everything.

You guys pick strange times to act like you care about taxpayer dollars...
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darkjedilink
03/28/18 11:46:09 AM
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_OujiDoza_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
The justice system has spoken. Hopefully a bunch of people don't riot because of this. But you know it's bound to happen

That, and the waste of taxpayer dollars the Mayor of BR is going to implement - YET ANOTHER investigation, because the last two exonerating the officers apparently didn't get everything.

You guys pick strange times to act like you care about taxpayer dollars...

Care to point to one single time I was okay with government spending? I have repeatedly called for government spending to be cut by no less than half across the board.

Or are you just deflecting from the fact that you're defending an illegally-armed pedophile in this thread?
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GuyCarlPeterson
03/28/18 11:50:57 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
They already had him on the ground and subdued, it was an execution.

Subdued people actively reach for a firearm on their person?

He was subdued except for a squirming arm. And the cop who shot him would have easily prevented his squirming arm from going anywhere.

Instead he executed him.

Because you can't fire a gun unless you take your shooter stance.
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The Admiral
03/28/18 11:54:16 AM
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> Convicted child rapist
> Carrying illegal gun
> Physically resisting police
> Reaches back for gun during arrest

CE: "Another innocent black man gunned down for no other reason than racist cops"
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 12:07:19 PM
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Thank God. I remember thinking they were gonna get in trouble for because of the anti cop circle jerk that makes kids feel edgy.

In reality this was the most fair next thing ever.

Dispatched to confront a man with a gun.

Guy attacks police

During the struggle an officer sees him going for a gun.

Cop says "stop resisting, stop going for your gun or I'll fucking kill you"

Guy continues going for a gun.

Guy is shot.
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FrisbeeDude
03/28/18 12:10:00 PM
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Another day, another case where officers get off for murdering a black person. Shocker.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 12:13:14 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Another day, another case where officers get off for murdering a black person. Shocker.


Another day another person defending a scum bag and saying it's ok to murder cops.
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darkjedilink
03/28/18 12:13:43 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Another day, another case where officers get off for murdering a black person. Shocker.

Imagine hating cops so much that you'd defend an illegally-armed pedophile.
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voldothegr8
03/28/18 12:15:02 PM
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The Admiral posted...
> Convicted child rapist
> Carrying illegal gun
> Physically resisting police
> Reaches back for gun during arrest

CE: "Another innocent black man gunned down for no other reason than racist cops"

I don't care about skin color. The dude was restrained on the ground, cop still executes him after clearly saying "I'll kill you bitch". There was absolutely no need for that.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 12:40:41 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
The Admiral posted...
> Convicted child rapist
> Carrying illegal gun
> Physically resisting police
> Reaches back for gun during arrest

CE: "Another innocent black man gunned down for no other reason than racist cops"

I don't care about skin color. The dude was restrained on the ground, cop still executes him after clearly saying "I'll kill you bitch". There was absolutely no need for that.


He wasn't subdued, he was reaching for a gun, cop warned him "don't move or I'll kill you", guy kept moving.

I can tell you've never been in a physical confrontation.
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