Current Events > I can't believe the kind of money YouTube stars are swimming in.

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Has anyone thought about this

KSI is worth $12 million. Thousands of youtubers with 1 or 2 million subs are worth $3-5 million!!

To put this into perspective; many of the best WWE wrestlers are worth about that much; $3-6 million. Most NFL players are worth $3-8 million.

My point? Practically every you tuber who records, is making the same amount of money as an NFL rookie, a WWE wrestler like Sean Michaels, and a rookie in any Pro Sport honestly. Not to mention they are obliterating household records. Average person in US makes $14/hr, which is $2400 monthly without tax deductions... A yotuber with 2m subs will likely accurate 640,000 views daily on his videos, which in Google Adsense formula equates to $12,000 DAILY.. WHAT THE ****?

I certainly have thought about it! Im motivated to build a gaming/editing PC now and start a YouTube! Lol!
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With the views they pull in, the ads that get seen, the deals they make, etc. It's fair for them to get that much. If they're pulling in a certain amount of revenue for the platform or other companies then it's fair that they get their fair share, they're not being overpaid or anything, they're getting what they're owed.

That said, when the rug gets pulled out and they start getting demonetized then come e begging like they're some poor person who's the victim or an evil platform out to ruin their livelihood, they're fucking idiots. It's not really surprising that the top 1% of YouTubers are loaded though, it's only fair if YouTube is making that much on them.
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For every let's player who gets hundreds of thousands of views on their video, there's 10000 more who struggle to break 200 views per video
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Genocet_10-325 posted...

For every let's player who gets hundreds of thousands of views on their video, there's 10000 more who struggle to break 200 views per video

This
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M_Live posted...

zinezinzadan posted...

Practically every you tuber who records

No, it's really a very small fraction who make it big.

Very very small. Like less than 0.01%
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zinezinzadan posted...

My point? Practically every you tuber who records, is making the same amount of money as an NFL rookie, a WWE wrestler like Sean Michaels, and a rookie in any Pro Sport honestly.

Haha WHAT
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I blame society I told everyone in 2008 to make an account and we all sub each other and give each other's views at that time and we just live out of each other by watching each others videos....but no you guys were to lazy did the same shit at Reddit around 2010 and nothing got upvoted like 100,000 times those could have all been subs for everyone but no to much work apparently...
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Gamer99z posted...

That said, when the rug gets pulled out and they start getting demonetized then come e begging like they're some poor person who's the victim or an evil platform out to ruin their livelihood, they're fucking idiots.

Why do you think they get demonetized? What can you do to prevent that from happening? Im assuming no cursing? Im trying to start a channel so this is important to know.

Genocet_10-325 posted...

For every let's player who gets hundreds of thousands of views on their video, there's 10000 more who struggle to break 200 views per video

Im aware. Like anything in life, only few get to the top of any business in the world. I guess the reason I made this topic is because it is staggering to me that someone who records videos and prances around LA or streams in their comfortable bedroom is making the same amount of money as Randy freaking Orton! Who is on the road 5 days a week, ruining his body, working out like an animal.

Keep in mind there are 30 active wrestlers at a given time.. there are thousands of youtubers with 1m subs.

Its just crazy to me. The business world is LOADED with money and capital to be gained. Forget Pro Sports.
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M_Live posted...

zinezinzadan posted...

Practically every you tuber who records

No, it's really a very small fraction who make it big.

I meant to say of all the dozens of thousands of people who have 500k-2m subscribers, all they record and make same money as average pro athlete salaries.
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Average person in US makes $14/hr, which is $2400 monthly without tax deductions

A person making $14 per hour average on a typical 40 hour full-time work week will net $2240 before taxes.
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To be fair even the top percent didnt get there by luck. They worked hard to get there tbh. A lot of them having been making videos since 2006-2007
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Xenozoa425 posted...

Average person in US makes $14/hr, which is $2400 monthly without tax deductions

A person making $14 per hour average on a typical 40 hour full-time work week will net $2240 before taxes.

Buddy, do a tiny bit of math before you post, please. There are 52 weeks in a year, with 40 hours work; you work 2080 hours for a full length year. 14x2080 = $29,120 annually, which is $2,426 monthly. After your respective federal and state tax bracket, pension/social, and Medicare deduction... youre left with about $1750 monthly. Which is pretty sad when you look at the modern cost of living.
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$14/hr x 40 hours = $560/week

There's roughly 4 paying work weeks in a month, though some months have 5, depending on the day you get paid. I failed to mention that in my last post, so that's on me.

$560/week x 4 weeks = $2240

$560/week x 5 weeks = $2800

And yes, $560/week x 52 weeks = $29120 annually before taxes, healthcare, etc. However, you are not making exactly $2426 every month. As I mentioned, it depends on the day the paycheck comes in. It's either 4 weeks a month or 5, there is no in between.

But for the sake of the argument, yes, the mean amount generated each month is $2426.
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YouTube is effectively a GLOBAL television channel that hypothetically has a viewership base in the billions. Of course people who have the ability to become stars are able to make big money off it.

Didn't the adpocalypse kill the income of a lot of youtubers?
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man if i knew making videos with cuts every two seconds talking about random shit could make me a multi-millionaire, i'd've invested in a video editing software ages ago
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DarkDragon400 posted...

Didn't the adpocalypse kill the income of a lot of youtubers?

Smaller ones, yes. the bigger ones have made big enough names for themselves that they're worth far more to the advertisers and their sponsors.
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DarkDragon400 posted...

Didn't the adpocalypse kill the income of a lot of youtubers?

most youtubers hurt by adpocalypse were struggling to make ends meet.

people with millions of subs weren't phased.
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zinezinzadan posted...

Gamer99z posted...

That said, when the rug gets pulled out and they start getting demonetized then come e begging like they're some poor person who's the victim or an evil platform out to ruin their livelihood, they're fucking idiots.

Why do you think they get demonetized? What can you do to prevent that from happening? Im assuming no cursing? Im trying to start a channel so this is important to know.

Good luck. YouTube is extremely vague about their rules and terrible at being transparent with people and notoriously will shit on smaller channels. Most of the big channels have a MCN with a contact at YouTube they deal with issues with.

You'll have people like Logan Paul who can go looking for a suicide victim in the suicide forest in Japan, can put the dead body in the thumbnail, and show a random hanging suicide victims face, crack jokes about him, go through his pockets and shit and not only have it monitized but also put on the featured list, which obviously has some level of manual curation because it doesn't simply put popular videos there, and then not even get a strike or anything either, he self deleted it because of the backlash.

If you did that your account would've been terminated, if he does it he gets featured and has ads on it.

Tons of popular channels have lots of swearing, are edgy, and are still monetized, but your milage will vary.

They also make a big deal about harassment and bullying yet you have bigger channels who do shitty diss tracks and shit insulting others, even though it's mostly all fake and fabricated drama for views, they're still doing it.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6162278

It's all really vague and small channels with no voice get shit on while bigger ones get a pass, and the support is non-existent when you try to dispute things.
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Wouldn't give a shit if these guys ended up homeless
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zinezinzadan posted...

My point? Practically every you tuber who records, is making the same amount of money as an NFL rookie, a WWE wrestler like Sean Michaels, and a rookie in any Pro Sport honestly

Do you seriously think there are only a few thousand people creating content on YouTube or what?

It's a tiny tiny tiny fraction of people who make that kinda money.
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Gamer99z posted...

zinezinzadan posted...

Gamer99z posted...

That said, when the rug gets pulled out and they start getting demonetized then come e begging like they're some poor person who's the victim or an evil platform out to ruin their livelihood, they're fucking idiots.

Why do you think they get demonetized? What can you do to prevent that from happening? Im assuming no cursing? Im trying to start a channel so this is important to know.

Good luck. YouTube is extremely vague about their rules and terrible at being transparent with people and notoriously will shit on smaller channels. Most of the big channels have a MCN with a contact at YouTube they deal with issues with.

You'll have people like Logan Paul who can go looking for a suicide victim in the suicide forest in Japan, can put the dead body in the thumbnail, and show a random hanging suicide victims face, crack jokes about him, go through his pockets and shit and not only have it monitized but also put on the featured list, which obviously has some level of manual curation because it doesn't simply put popular videos there, and then not even get a strike or anything either, he self deleted it because of the backlash.

If you did that your account would've been terminated, if he does it he gets featured and has ads on it.

Tons of popular channels have lots of swearing, are edgy, and are still monetized, but your milage will vary.

They also make a big deal about harassment and bullying yet you have bigger channels who do shitty diss tracks and shit insulting others, even though it's mostly all fake and fabricated drama for views, they're still doing it.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6162278

It's all really vague and small channels with no voice get shit on while bigger ones get a pass, and the support is non-existent when you try to dispute things.

Thanks a lot for this link. I'm assuming the "adpocalypse" that everyone is referring to is this, correct? So as long as I follow those rules, none of my videos should lose their monetization. Interesting. Now how the hell do I garner a million subscribers.. God, I wouldn't even know where to start besides uploading random content of new games and adding commentary to it.
Anyone got ideas?
I wonder if I should share links to all my videos on here. Ehh, people here would probably downlike my videos cus it's funny to them.
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Gamer99z posted...

You'll have people like Logan Paul who can go looking for a suicide victim in the suicide forest in Japan, can put the dead body in the thumbnail, and show a random hanging suicide victims face, crack jokes about him, go through his pockets and shit and not only have it monitized but also put on the featured list, which obviously has some level of manual curation because it doesn't simply put popular videos there, and then not even get a strike or anything either, he self deleted it because of the backlash.

If you did that your account would've been terminated, if he does it he gets featured and has ads on it.

god that's such trash, the levels people will stoop to keep their ad money flowing will never surprise me
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I'm more amazed by the amount people who choose to throw their disposable income at Twitch streamers. Some of these streamers, in addition to their subs, basically get donations non stop when they stream.
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REMercsChamp posted...

Wouldn't give a shit if these guys ended up homeless

Remember Shoenice?
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zinezinzadan posted...

So as long as I follow those rules, none of my videos should lose their monetization.

Easier said than done. I've heard of completely innocuous stuff, like unboxing videos, being demonetized without explanation.
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RedWhiteBlue posted...

assassinCrash posted...

To be fair even the top percent didnt get there by luck. They worked hard to get there tbh. A lot of them having been making videos since 2006-2007

The vast majority of the top do work hard, some got lucky because of being checked out by other top stars (Jacksepticeye, who works hard, got noticed by PewDiePie).

But so many of them have worked hard for a long time, and even they said that's not what matters for the most part. It's about being in the right place at the right time or having a uniquely shitty or annoying gimmick and spreading the word. Ninja, the top twitch streamer, says that the key is to have the foresight to know which upcoming game is going to be the next mainstream thing, and to jump on it as he did with Fortnite.

Yeah so basically if you dont work hard theres zero chance

If you work really hard you atleast have a slight chance of getting up there
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Iirc that Ninja guy thats on Twitch makes like a million dollars a month now
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zinezinzadan posted...

Thanks a lot for this link. I'm assuming the "adpocalypse" that everyone is referring to is this, correct? So as long as I follow those rules, none of my videos should lose their monetization. Interesting. Now how the hell do I garner a million subscribers.. God, I wouldn't even know where to start besides uploading random content of new games and adding commentary to it.
Anyone got ideas?
I wonder if I should share links to all my videos on here. Ehh, people here would probably downlike my videos cus it's funny to them.

The adpocalypse references both their change to vague rules that aren't handled fairly across all YouTubers and the fact that many big advertisers were pulling their ads from the platform, even after they changed things. And it also added another requirement I'll mention at the end of this post.
Ideally, yes if you follow those rules you should stay monetized but like I said the YouTube system is really fucked up and if you're a small YouTuber good luck getting any help or disputing it or anything.

Also you starting with the idea of wanting a million subscribers, and giving the though of your actual content the backseat probably isn't going to work out well. If you're not doing anything that 1000's of other people aren't already doing, if you have shitty quality stuff because you don't know how to make videos well, don't have an interesting personality or persona to carve out to carry whatever you're doing, then you're not going to get anywhere.
Secondly most people who do have these things still in some cases went years of consistently making videos and only having a sub count in the hundreds or low thousands making nothing before they got bigger. Every now and then there's someone who either has an interesting enough idea, personality, personal, or skill to be able to skyrocket out of nowhere, but that's very rare.
Third, the way YouTube suggests videos and puts them in the recommended section are based on watch time, so they prioritize channels that make long videos (that people actually watch all of) on a daily upload schedule. That's a reason why a lot of animators on YouTube have always gotten shafted because it can take months to make a single video and YouTube will refuse to push it through to people or try to spread it because your channel doesn't have enough watch time, engagements in the form of likes/dislikes, comments, etc. So if you're only making videos every few weeks or so it can make it even harder for you to grow, and forcing yourself to push out videos faster than that, you could easily burn yourself out or get overwhelmed, especially if you're not actually passionate about it but just doing it to get internet famous and rich.
Thirdly, once you do start to get a decent following low thousands of subs, you'll start being approached by MCN's which are multichannel networks. Which you'll be offered a contract for where they take a chunk of your revenue but take care of any issues you have with YouTube's shitty systems as well as offering some benefits to to try to grow your channel more, at least ideally and that's what they'll promise you but many of them are scummy as fuck and will fuck you over. So then you'll reach a point where you might be getting shafted by YouTube and have to choose between that and getting shafted by a network...

Lastly, it's going to be a grind before you can even get monetized because as part of the change in rules you have to have 1000 subscribers and 4000 watch hours within the last year to be eligible to apply for the YouTube Partner Program and be reviewed which is required for monetization.

So treating it as an immediate job, or get rich scheme really isn't practical. Unless you're one of the rare ones that's able to skyrocket, it's going to be years of grinding before you're even making rent money off your channel.
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Thompson posted...

zinezinzadan posted...

So as long as I follow those rules, none of my videos should lose their monetization.

Easier said than done. I've heard of completely innocuous stuff, like unboxing videos, being demonetized without explanation.

Dude that Ryan kid who opens and plays with toys made like 14 million last year.
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Gamer99z posted...

zinezinzadan posted...

Thanks a lot for this link. I'm assuming the "adpocalypse" that everyone is referring to is this, correct? So as long as I follow those rules, none of my videos should lose their monetization. Interesting. Now how the hell do I garner a million subscribers.. God, I wouldn't even know where to start besides uploading random content of new games and adding commentary to it.
Anyone got ideas?
I wonder if I should share links to all my videos on here. Ehh, people here would probably downlike my videos cus it's funny to them.

Lastly, it's going to be a grind before you can even get monetized because as part of the change in rules you have to have 1000 subscribers and 4000 watch hours within the last year to be eligible to apply for the YouTube Partner Program and be reviewed which is required for monetization.

So treating it as an immediate job, or get rich scheme really isn't practical. Unless you're one of the rare ones that's able to skyrocket, it's going to be years of grinding before you're even making rent money off your channel.

Damn!! I have a youtube channel that I started in 2007. The channel has a couple videos with over 100k views. One even has 300k. Do I get to bypass the new monetization rules because I created the channel so long ago?

For example, my mom made a youtube channel around that same time (2010). Don't ask lol.... Maybe I can just take her account, change the name, and delete all her older videos and start uploading my own. She has uploaded maybe 5 videos and they were all 10 years ago, but I know she had ads on her vids of 15 views lmao.
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Samurontai posted...

Iirc that Ninja guy thats on Twitch makes like a million dollars a month now

$500,000+ a month on subs alone.
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They can make even more if they get sponsors, patreon, or start streaming on twitch.

It's absurd how much some of them make, not gonna lie I'm jelly as fuck
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MC_BatCommander posted...

They can make even more if they get sponsors, patreon, or start streaming on twitch.

It's absurd how much some of them make, not gonna lie I'm jelly as fuck

Of course, any entrepreneurship minded person would be. Look, we all need to make money to live, it runs our life. So it's only natural to look at opportunities that steer away from our regular 9 to 5 jobs only pay us $20-30/hour.
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