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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 11:33:08 AM
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Men and women have been doing different jobs since the Stone Age. Its what came naturally. Biology cant be helped. In what way is it a social construct? This isnt a troll attempt or bait. I want a legitimate discussion about how social constructs operate.
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MrResetti
03/11/18 11:34:16 AM
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chrono625
03/11/18 11:36:03 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Men and women have been doing different jobs since the Stone Age. Its what came naturally. Biology cant be helped. In what way is it a social construct?


It isn't. Those people are morons.

Could men and women THEORETICALLY do the same jobs? Sure.

Are there jobs that statistics show men do vastly better or comes easier? Yes. And vice versa.
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SomeonesAlt
03/11/18 11:36:15 AM
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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 11:43:38 AM
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MrResetti posted...
Ze bait


Im not baiting or trolling. I genuinely want to know how gender is a social construct. The floor is open for debate.
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Scotty_Rogers
03/11/18 11:44:33 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
MrResetti posted...
Ze bait


Im not baiting or trolling.


Ze bait
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Anarchy_Juiblex
03/11/18 11:46:37 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
I genuinely want to know how gender is a social construct.


Certain gender norms are constructs, not gender itself. It's not biological that pink is for girls and blue is for boys, this is a norm that's came from industry. Pink was once considered a bold, masculine color.
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emblem boy
03/11/18 11:47:27 AM
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What do you mean be gender?
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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 11:49:22 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
I genuinely want to know how gender is a social construct.


Certain gender norms are constructs, not gender itself. It's not biological that pink is for girls and blue is for boys, this is a norm that's came from industry. Pink was once considered a bold, masculine color.


Oh, I understand that completely. Its just when people say gender as a whole is a social construct that I get flabbergasted.
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GiftedACIII
03/11/18 11:59:14 AM
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Gender is about as much of a social construct as taste is.
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VTBM
03/11/18 12:01:01 PM
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SomeonesAlt
03/11/18 12:03:50 PM
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@Sayoria
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REMercsChamp
03/11/18 12:06:01 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
I genuinely want to know how gender is a social construct.


Certain gender norms are constructs, not gender itself. It's not biological that pink is for girls and blue is for boys, this is a norm that's came from industry. Pink was once considered a bold, masculine color.

Is pink for girls? I wear pink. And these are clothes designed for men.
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Hexagon
03/11/18 12:08:23 PM
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The word "gender" comes from grammar. Words have a gender indicating if they are "masculine" or "feminine". It's only recently that gender has become synonymous with what reproductive organs you have. "Masculine" and "feminine" is mostly social construct. You can be a rough female or a sensitive male. Its not that hard to understand.
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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 12:12:45 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?


I dont need to justify any of my behaviors to anyone on this board.

Hexagon posted...
The word "gender" comes from grammar. Words have a gender indicating if they are "masculine" or "feminine". It's only recently that gender has become synonymous with what reproductive organs you have. "Masculine" and "feminine" is mostly social construct. You can be a rough female or a sensitive male. Its not that hard to understand.


The word, sure. Not the biological aspect.
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REMercsChamp
03/11/18 12:13:27 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
I genuinely want to know how gender is a social construct.


Certain gender norms are constructs, not gender itself. It's not biological that pink is for girls and blue is for boys, this is a norm that's came from industry. Pink was once considered a bold, masculine color.

Is pink for girls? I wear pink. And these are clothes designed for men.


Depends what shade. A lighter shade of pink can look good. Hot pink...not so much.

Aight man. You the boss.
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Hexagon
03/11/18 12:15:07 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
The word, sure. Not the biological aspect.


You asked if "gender", the meaning of the word is a social construct. I answered it and it is. If people think that gender means a biological aspect, its only because they have redefined what the word means. So why would people take issue that people are redefining it again?
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ZombiePelican
03/11/18 12:16:07 PM
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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 12:16:40 PM
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Hexagon posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
The word, sure. Not the biological aspect.


You asked if "gender", the meaning of the word is a social construct. I answered it and it is. If people think that gender means a biological aspect, its only because they have redefined what the word means. So why would people take issue that people are redefining it again?


Oh so were playing semantics to entertain your version of this debate now? I never specified that I was asking about the meaning of the word. I was referring to the biological concept of gender. Not a definition that people feel can be changed.
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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 12:17:39 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
Why not ask this on FB? CE really isn't the place for this question


Because FB is too moronically biased for this question. That isnt to say CE isnt, either. People here just tend to think a little deeper about these issues.
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Hexagon
03/11/18 12:21:55 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
I was referring to the biological concept of gender.


How dense can you be? Gender doesn't have a biological aspect. Its a misnomer synonym for sex. Sex is the biological aspect your talking about. Not gender. There is no biological aspect of gender. If we're not playing semantics. Then your thread makes no sense.
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Vermander
03/11/18 12:22:02 PM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
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BLAKUboy
03/11/18 12:23:39 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Oh so were playing semantics to entertain your version of this debate now?

No, he's answering your question and you don't like that because it destroys your bait.
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RoboLaserGandhi
03/11/18 12:24:19 PM
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Gender is biological.

Gender roles are social constructs based on biology.
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scar the 1
03/11/18 12:24:27 PM
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If you think something is manly or feminine, it's indicative of a social construct. Because of the associations we make. It's not do difficult to understand. Having long hair, a dress, high heels, crying a lot, etc are typically considered as feminine traits, for example. That would be mostly because of the social construct that is the female gender. Easy peasy
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Medussa
03/11/18 12:25:51 PM
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Hexagon posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
I was referring to the biological concept of gender.


How dense can you be? Gender doesn't have a biological aspect. Its a misnomer synonym for sex. Sex is the biological aspect your talking about. Not gender. There is no biological aspect of gender. If we're not playing semantics. Then your thread makes no sense.


gender identity is just as biological as sex is, and no, they aren't the same thing.

the biggest issue with this topic is that (at least) three different concepts are all commonly boiled down to the word "gender". we need more words, lol.
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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 12:25:51 PM
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Hexagon posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
I was referring to the biological concept of gender.


How dense can you be? Gender doesn't have a biological aspect. Its a misnomer synonym for sex. Sex is the biological aspect your talking about. Not gender. There is no biological aspect of gender. If we're not playing semantics. Then your thread makes no sense.


Gender absolutely has a biological aspect, lol. Gender roles, however, do not.
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_Near_
03/11/18 12:26:34 PM
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Very few people think that the whole of gender is a social construct.

What they mean is that gender roles are a social construct.

Gender as a whole is composed of different factors - biological, hormonal, and social being a few of them.
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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 12:27:50 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Oh so were playing semantics to entertain your version of this debate now?

No, he's answering your question and you don't like that because it destroys your bait.


Not bait. Stop it.
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Sayoria
03/11/18 12:30:09 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?


This is why I hold no sympathy in my words or actions against him. He is a terrible person on here.
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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 12:30:56 PM
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Sayoria posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?


This is why I hold no sympathy in my words or actions against him. He is a terrible person on here.


Bro youre not any better. XD
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Hexagon
03/11/18 12:32:53 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Gender absolutely has a biological aspect, lol. Gender roles, however, do not

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/gender?s=t

"Although it is possible to define gender as sex, indicating that the term can be used when differentiating male creatures from female ones biologically, the concept of gender, a word primarily applied to human beings, has additional connotationsmore rich and more amorphoushaving to do with general behavior, social interactions, and most importantly, one's fundamental sense of self."
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The Great Muta 22
03/11/18 12:33:08 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Sayoria posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?


This is why I hold no sympathy in my words or actions against him. He is a terrible person on here.


Bro youre not any better. XD


She's absolutely better than you
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Sayoria
03/11/18 12:34:13 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Sayoria posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?


This is why I hold no sympathy in my words or actions against him. He is a terrible person on here.


Bro youre not any better. XD


How cringy that you purposely put "bro" in there just to burn houses.

I am far better of a person than you are, and I am obviously capable to stoop low.
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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 12:34:25 PM
#37:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Sayoria posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?


This is why I hold no sympathy in my words or actions against him. He is a terrible person on here.


Bro youre not any better. XD


She's absolutely better than you


Not even by a long shot, bud. :)
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darkjedilink
03/11/18 12:34:41 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?

Sayoria is a male attention whore.
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Zodd3224
03/11/18 12:35:22 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?

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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 12:35:45 PM
#40:


Sayoria posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Sayoria posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?


This is why I hold no sympathy in my words or actions against him. He is a terrible person on here.


Bro youre not any better. XD


How cringy that you purposely put "bro" in there just to burn houses.

I am far better of a person than you are, and I am obviously capable to stoop low.


You really arent. In any aspect. And bro is now a gender neutral term. Arent you the type that usually tries changing definitions to suit your perception of the reality everyone else has agreed on?
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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 12:36:08 PM
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darkjedilink posted...


God damn!
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Sayoria
03/11/18 12:37:14 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?

Sayoria is a male attention whore.


You are just pissy I go into the ladies' restrooms and you think l'll creep on you or something. I am not into women.
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billcom6
03/11/18 12:37:18 PM
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Cause it is.
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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 12:37:47 PM
#44:


Sayoria posted...
darkjedilink posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?

Sayoria is a male attention whore.


You are just pissy I go into the ladies' restrooms and you think l'll creep on you or something. I am not into women.


So youre gay?
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The Great Muta 22
03/11/18 12:39:06 PM
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Sayoria
03/11/18 12:39:30 PM
#46:


Deadpool_18 posted...
Sayoria posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Sayoria posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?


This is why I hold no sympathy in my words or actions against him. He is a terrible person on here.


Bro youre not any better. XD


How cringy that you purposely put "bro" in there just to burn houses.

I am far better of a person than you are, and I am obviously capable to stoop low.


You really arent. In any aspect. And bro is now a gender neutral term. Arent you the type that usually tries changing definitions to suit your perception of the reality everyone else has agreed on?


Show me a recent post older than this one of you using bro to someone on here. We both know you made that passive aggressively.
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Zodd3224
03/11/18 12:40:20 PM
#47:


Sayoria posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Sayoria posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Sayoria posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?


This is why I hold no sympathy in my words or actions against him. He is a terrible person on here.


Bro youre not any better. XD


How cringy that you purposely put "bro" in there just to burn houses.

I am far better of a person than you are, and I am obviously capable to stoop low.


You really arent. In any aspect. And bro is now a gender neutral term. Arent you the type that usually tries changing definitions to suit your perception of the reality everyone else has agreed on?


Show me a recent post older than this one of you using bro to someone on here. We both know you made that passive aggressively.


Why do you waste time and energy interacting with him?
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Deadpool_18
03/11/18 12:40:35 PM
#48:


Sayoria posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Sayoria posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Sayoria posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?


This is why I hold no sympathy in my words or actions against him. He is a terrible person on here.


Bro youre not any better. XD


How cringy that you purposely put "bro" in there just to burn houses.

I am far better of a person than you are, and I am obviously capable to stoop low.


You really arent. In any aspect. And bro is now a gender neutral term. Arent you the type that usually tries changing definitions to suit your perception of the reality everyone else has agreed on?


Show me a recent post older than this one of you using bro to someone on here. We both know you made that passive aggressively.


I didnt. I call everyone dude or bro. I could fabricate a post in photoshop, but we all know where that leads.
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Sayoria
03/11/18 12:40:56 PM
#49:


Deadpool_18 posted...
Sayoria posted...
darkjedilink posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Is this how you're looking to justify your antagonistic behavior towards Sayoria?

Sayoria is a male attention whore.


You are just pissy I go into the ladies' restrooms and you think l'll creep on you or something. I am not into women.


So youre gay?


I said I'm not into women. That reading comprehension tho.
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