Current Events > 36 of the last school shooters were on or stopped taking some type of SSRI drug

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SGT_Conti
03/10/18 8:34:06 PM
#101:


darkjedilink posted...
But it doesn't always 'balance out,' which is my point. My ex-wife became violent on them, to me and our children. She literally stabbed me numerous times.

There was no 'close monitoring,' either - her family practicioner scripted the Prozac, with no follow-up or therapist visit. She never sought counseling until after MY suicide attempt after she announced her desire for divorce in the midst of another stabbing attack.

I'm not sure how the US does it but just about every single person I know who was prescribed some kind of medication was told to go back to the doctor immediately if they had thoughts of harming themselves or others. Most also had regular therapy, and pills, at least from my doctor, weren't given in a prescription that lasts longer than a month so you'd need to go back to the doctor for regular check-ups anyway. Every time I went back, my doctor would privately ask my parents how I'm doing and if they noticed any negative or positive change in my demeanour.

If your wife had violent thoughts and told no one about it, that's not the doctor's fault for not knowing. Blame the stigma on mental health. I hope you told your doctor immediately when she became violent "numerous times" toward you and your children because, unless the doctor is also living with you, they can't possibly know what goes on outside the office. I can't imagine any doctor going "oh let's just wait and see a couple months and see if there's any change" if someone is stabbing others. The number one biggest issue with mental health is that just about no one other than the one suffering knows exactly what's going on inside their own mind, and they aren't always able or willing to explain it.
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tennisdude818
03/10/18 8:34:16 PM
#102:


See all those drug commercials while watching the news? Thats probably a big reason why the MSM is infinitely more willing to talk about guns than drugs.
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hockeybub89
03/10/18 8:34:52 PM
#103:


jayj350 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
jayj350 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
SSRIs are no good. I used to take them, I was still depressed, and I couldn't get off.


As someone who has benefited from them exponentially, this is so, so wrong.

I hope you are aware of how not everyone has the same experience for them, and all of the bad side effects are proof of that.


And I hope you are aware of how most people see improvement with very minor side effects.

That does not invalidate the existence of people who experience bad side effects.

It invalidates it being an epidemic.
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hockeybub89
03/10/18 8:36:20 PM
#104:


jayj350 posted...
Bumjuice001 posted...
Stop trying to take the blame away from Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty.

Lol I find it funny how a gaming forum has users defending big pharma just so they can continue blaming scapegoats like that.

Stop scapegoating the wrong scapegoat!
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jayj350
03/10/18 8:38:32 PM
#105:


hockeybub89 posted...
jayj350 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
jayj350 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
SSRIs are no good. I used to take them, I was still depressed, and I couldn't get off.


As someone who has benefited from them exponentially, this is so, so wrong.

I hope you are aware of how not everyone has the same experience for them, and all of the bad side effects are proof of that.


And I hope you are aware of how most people see improvement with very minor side effects.

That does not invalidate the existence of people who experience bad side effects.

It invalidates it being an epidemic.

That isn't the case with opioids and heroine.
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darkjedilink
03/10/18 8:40:42 PM
#106:


SGT_Conti posted...
darkjedilink posted...
But it doesn't always 'balance out,' which is my point. My ex-wife became violent on them, to me and our children. She literally stabbed me numerous times.

There was no 'close monitoring,' either - her family practicioner scripted the Prozac, with no follow-up or therapist visit. She never sought counseling until after MY suicide attempt after she announced her desire for divorce in the midst of another stabbing attack.

I'm not sure how the US does it but just about every single person I know who was prescribed some kind of medication was told to go back to the doctor immediately if they had thoughts of harming themselves or others. Most also had regular therapy, and pills, at least from my doctor, weren't given in a prescription that lasts longer than a month so you'd need to go back to the doctor for regular check-ups anyway. Every time I went back, my doctor would privately ask my parents how I'm doing and if they noticed any negative or positive change in my demeanour.

If your wife had violent thoughts and told no one about it, that's not the doctor's fault for not knowing. Blame the stigma on mental health. I hope you told your doctor immediately when she became violent "numerous times" toward you and your children because, unless the doctor is also living with you, they can't possibly know what goes on outside the office. I can't imagine any doctor going "oh let's just wait and see a couple months and see if there's any change" if someone is stabbing others. The number one biggest issue with mental health is that just about no one other than the one suffering knows exactly what's going on inside their own mind, and they aren't always able or willing to explain it.

Lol, a man reporting his wife abuses him.

I would go to jail, dude.
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hockeybub89
03/10/18 8:42:00 PM
#107:


jayj350 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
jayj350 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
jayj350 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
SSRIs are no good. I used to take them, I was still depressed, and I couldn't get off.


As someone who has benefited from them exponentially, this is so, so wrong.

I hope you are aware of how not everyone has the same experience for them, and all of the bad side effects are proof of that.


And I hope you are aware of how most people see improvement with very minor side effects.

That does not invalidate the existence of people who experience bad side effects.

It invalidates it being an epidemic.

That isn't the case with opioids and heroine.

Maybe if we could get some fucking universal healthcare that problem would disappear.
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darkjedilink
03/10/18 8:42:03 PM
#108:


hockeybub89 posted...
jayj350 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
jayj350 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
SSRIs are no good. I used to take them, I was still depressed, and I couldn't get off.


As someone who has benefited from them exponentially, this is so, so wrong.

I hope you are aware of how not everyone has the same experience for them, and all of the bad side effects are proof of that.


And I hope you are aware of how most people see improvement with very minor side effects.

That does not invalidate the existence of people who experience bad side effects.

It invalidates it being an epidemic.

Who called it an epidemic? Oceanic beachgoers have a similar chance of shark attack.
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hockeybub89
03/10/18 8:45:20 PM
#109:


darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
jayj350 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
jayj350 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
SSRIs are no good. I used to take them, I was still depressed, and I couldn't get off.


As someone who has benefited from them exponentially, this is so, so wrong.

I hope you are aware of how not everyone has the same experience for them, and all of the bad side effects are proof of that.


And I hope you are aware of how most people see improvement with very minor side effects.

That does not invalidate the existence of people who experience bad side effects.

It invalidates it being an epidemic.

Who called it an epidemic? Oceanic beachgoers have a similar chance of shark attack.

So antidepressants aren't turning America into crazed killers given how low the rate of occurrence is? I guess we can continue looking for the real culprit then. We wouldn't want to cause false hysteria over shark attacks
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darkjedilink
03/10/18 8:47:58 PM
#110:


hockeybub89 posted...
So antidepressants aren't turning America into crazed killers given how low the rate of occurrence is? I guess we can continue looking for the real culprit then.

The murderers. Too bad liberals can't take people's rights away by blaming murder on that.
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jayj350
03/10/18 8:49:21 PM
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The relevance is the percentage of mass shooters who had issues with SSRI use. When almost everyone who does that has an issue with the same pharmaceutical drug, it isn't exactly crazy to address it.
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Lil_Bit83
03/10/18 8:49:39 PM
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It's a psychotic shithead issue. Psychotic shitheads do terrible things. There are plenty of mentally ill and non mentally ill people who live their entire lives without murdering others.
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jayj350
03/10/18 8:50:14 PM
#114:


tote_all posted...
SSRIs are used world wide, yet these acts happen almost exclusively in the US.

Does no one else see that misstep in logic?

The rest of the world has no shortage of it's own issues, I mean just look at the suicide rate in China for example.
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hockeybub89
03/10/18 8:59:34 PM
#115:


darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
So antidepressants aren't turning America into crazed killers given how low the rate of occurrence is? I guess we can continue looking for the real culprit then.

The murderers. Too bad liberals can't take people's rights away by blaming murder on that.

And the Republican solution is what? Blame something else and take that away? "But It's okay because X thing is not protected by the 2nd Amendment and is likely taking us further from God"
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Bad_Mojo
03/10/18 9:01:18 PM
#116:


DarkTransient posted...
The more I hear about antidepressants, the more glad I am I refused to ever go on them. Sure, it may have been coming from a "fuck you I'm not taking pills" point of view, but it looks like even if the reasoning was crap, the answer was ultimately the right one.


I badly need them since I'm very, very unhappy, but like you, I don't trust them. Way too many horror stories.
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KingCrabCake
03/10/18 9:07:18 PM
#117:


hockeybub89 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
So antidepressants aren't turning America into crazed killers given how low the rate of occurrence is? I guess we can continue looking for the real culprit then.

The murderers. Too bad liberals can't take people's rights away by blaming murder on that.

And the Republican solution is what? Blame something else and take that away? "But It's okay because X thing is not protected by the 2nd Amendment and is likely taking us further from God"

Lmfao solid gimmick
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jayj350
03/10/18 9:37:39 PM
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tote_all posted...
jayj350 posted...
tote_all posted...
SSRIs are used world wide, yet these acts happen almost exclusively in the US.

Does no one else see that misstep in logic?

The rest of the world has no shortage of it's own issues, I mean just look at the suicide rate in China for example.


"Your premise is illogical"
*Makes a more illogical, unrelated retort*

How bad the rest of the world is doesn't change how idiotic this premise is, bud.

How is addressing something all these shooters had in common an "idiotic statement?"
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darkjedilink
03/10/18 9:58:46 PM
#120:


hockeybub89 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
So antidepressants aren't turning America into crazed killers given how low the rate of occurrence is? I guess we can continue looking for the real culprit then.

The murderers. Too bad liberals can't take people's rights away by blaming murder on that.

And the Republican solution is what? Blame something else and take that away? "But It's okay because X thing is not protected by the 2nd Amendment and is likely taking us further from God"

What have Republicans suggested we ban?
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jayj350
03/10/18 10:46:55 PM
#121:


darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
So antidepressants aren't turning America into crazed killers given how low the rate of occurrence is? I guess we can continue looking for the real culprit then.

The murderers. Too bad liberals can't take people's rights away by blaming murder on that.

And the Republican solution is what? Blame something else and take that away? "But It's okay because X thing is not protected by the 2nd Amendment and is likely taking us further from God"

What have Republicans suggested we ban?

Violent video games.
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darkjedilink
03/10/18 10:49:20 PM
#122:


jayj350 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
So antidepressants aren't turning America into crazed killers given how low the rate of occurrence is? I guess we can continue looking for the real culprit then.

The murderers. Too bad liberals can't take people's rights away by blaming murder on that.

And the Republican solution is what? Blame something else and take that away? "But It's okay because X thing is not protected by the 2nd Amendment and is likely taking us further from God"

What have Republicans suggested we ban?

Violent video games.

Really? When did Republicans introduce legislation to ban violent video games?
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jayj350
03/10/18 10:50:20 PM
#123:


darkjedilink posted...
jayj350 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
So antidepressants aren't turning America into crazed killers given how low the rate of occurrence is? I guess we can continue looking for the real culprit then.

The murderers. Too bad liberals can't take people's rights away by blaming murder on that.

And the Republican solution is what? Blame something else and take that away? "But It's okay because X thing is not protected by the 2nd Amendment and is likely taking us further from God"

What have Republicans suggested we ban?

Violent video games.

Really? When did Republicans introduce legislation to ban violent video games?

Have you seriously been missing everything Trump has been imposing lately?
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darkjedilink
03/10/18 10:51:27 PM
#124:


jayj350 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
jayj350 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
So antidepressants aren't turning America into crazed killers given how low the rate of occurrence is? I guess we can continue looking for the real culprit then.

The murderers. Too bad liberals can't take people's rights away by blaming murder on that.

And the Republican solution is what? Blame something else and take that away? "But It's okay because X thing is not protected by the 2nd Amendment and is likely taking us further from God"

What have Republicans suggested we ban?

Violent video games.

Really? When did Republicans introduce legislation to ban violent video games?

Have you seriously been missing everything Trump has been imposing lately?

Trump signed an executive order banning violent video games?
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FLOUR
03/10/18 10:58:18 PM
#125:


I've been saying this for a few years now. And nobody seemed to care. This stuff has been going on for 30 years now. One of the first school mass shootings was the Stockton school shooting back in 1989 and the perpetrator was taking Prozac which just came out. On a side note, yes the media knows big pharma is the real culprit and does everything to cover it up. Sean Hannity recently cut off an reporter when she mentioned psychotropic drugs. Purely disgusting.

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Resolution
03/10/18 11:01:01 PM
#126:


KingCrabCake posted...
But its not a mental health issue...but a gun issue!


So do you think the mental health of Americans is significantly worse than the mental health of people in pretty much every other country
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hockeybub89
03/10/18 11:01:03 PM
#127:


FLOUR posted...
I've been saying this for a few years now. And nobody seemed to care.

Everybody should ignore a man tilting at windmills.
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Roxborough4Ever
03/10/18 11:17:39 PM
#129:


FLOUR posted...
I've been saying this for a few years now. And nobody seemed to care.

Everybody should ignore a man tilting at windmills.


exactly.......DONT talk about that......FOCUS on the GUN
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Weezy_Tha_Don
03/10/18 11:32:13 PM
#130:


KingCrabCake posted...
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
TheCEmanCometh posted...
What percentage of those shooters were white?


like 99.9%

False.

But you say racist shit all the time


yupp, cause you can totally tell by all 12 of my active messages. fuckin loser
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jayj350
03/10/18 11:34:51 PM
#131:


FLOUR posted...
I've been saying this for a few years now. And nobody seemed to care. This stuff has been going on for 30 years now. One of the first school mass shootings was the Stockton school shooting back in 1989 and the perpetrator was taking Prozac which just came out. On a side note, yes the media knows big pharma is the real culprit and does everything to cover it up. Sean Hannity recently cut off an reporter when she mentioned psychotropic drugs. Purely disgusting.

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Yeah nobody dares acknowledge it because big pharma has so much money and influence that they essentially control both politics and the media.
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pres_madagascar
03/10/18 11:36:04 PM
#132:


I take 20mg Lexapro, it allows me to be a functioning member of society. I have never had any sort of violent thoughts in my life, other than suicidal, and if I ever did that, I'd only hurt myself. I have no desire to hurt anyone else, never have.
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KingCrabCake
03/11/18 12:21:39 AM
#133:


Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
TheCEmanCometh posted...
What percentage of those shooters were white?


like 99.9%

False.

But you say racist shit all the time


yupp, cause you can totally tell by all 12 of my active messages. fuckin loser


Well ya you're batting a 1,000
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Weezy_Tha_Don
03/11/18 11:26:04 AM
#134:


KingCrabCake posted...
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
TheCEmanCometh posted...
What percentage of those shooters were white?


like 99.9%

False.

But you say racist shit all the time


yupp, cause you can totally tell by all 12 of my active messages. fuckin loser


Well ya you're batting a 1,000


lol, right. Ill humor you. show me a post where Im saying racist shit. Ill wait

@KingCrabCake
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divot1338
03/11/18 11:40:27 AM
#135:


jayj350 posted...
JustMonika posted...
You know what else? They easily acquired a gun too.

Criminals do that too, but their guns are unregistered. At the end of the day people will find a way to get what they want if they are determined enough.

And its made all the more easier by having a massive surplus of guns around.
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COVxy
03/11/18 11:45:03 AM
#136:


This topic exists, lmao.
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KingCrabCake
03/11/18 12:42:44 PM
#137:


Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
TheCEmanCometh posted...
What percentage of those shooters were white?


like 99.9%

False.

But you say racist shit all the time


yupp, cause you can totally tell by all 12 of my active messages. fuckin loser


Well ya you're batting a 1,000


lol, right. Ill humor you. show me a post where Im saying racist shit. Ill wait

@KingCrabCake

Post i quoted was racist.

Bye little alt
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Weezy_Tha_Don
03/11/18 1:45:20 PM
#138:


KingCrabCake posted...
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
TheCEmanCometh posted...
What percentage of those shooters were white?


like 99.9%

False.

But you say racist shit all the time


yupp, cause you can totally tell by all 12 of my active messages. fuckin loser


Well ya you're batting a 1,000


lol, right. Ill humor you. show me a post where Im saying racist shit. Ill wait

@KingCrabCake

Post i quoted was racist.

Bye little alt


ah so you cant find another racist quote then? youre a troll, gotcha.
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KingCrabCake
03/11/18 1:47:50 PM
#139:


Weezy_Tha_Don posted...


ah so you cant find another racist quote then? youre a troll, gotcha.


Oh no someone who said some racist shit thinks im a troll...

My life is over...

So who's your main?
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Weezy_Tha_Don
03/11/18 2:00:33 PM
#140:


lol this is my main, scrub. just cause I dont have 500 posts like you doesnt mean its an alt. get a life
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Tmaster148
03/11/18 2:02:07 PM
#141:


Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
lol this is my main, scrub. just cause I dont have 500 posts like you doesnt mean its an alt. get a life


I don't know why you are still bothering. He's made it pretty obvious he's trolling for attention.
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KingCrabCake
03/11/18 2:20:56 PM
#142:


@Tmaster148 posted...
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
lol this is my main, scrub. just cause I dont have 500 posts like you doesnt mean its an alt. get a life


I don't know why you are still bothering. He's made it pretty obvious he's trolling for attention.


You're right the guy who said white people are responsible for 99.9% of mass murders wasnt trolling for attention.

Youre just mad ur shit argument got shot down
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darkjedilink
03/11/18 2:25:43 PM
#143:


divot1338 posted...
jayj350 posted...
JustMonika posted...
You know what else? They easily acquired a gun too.

Criminals do that too, but their guns are unregistered. At the end of the day people will find a way to get what they want if they are determined enough.

And its made all the more easier by having a massive surplus of guns around.

Stealing someone else's property isn't a 'massive surplus.'
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