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Akagami_Shanks
03/07/18 10:27:14 PM
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And how it was such a big deal

and then the Tournament of Power happens and it's basically useless. The GoDs were shocked at the form during the initial opener and then the actual fight starts and it goes down as easily as super saiyan
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metralo
03/07/18 10:28:27 PM
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no it doesn't

aside from berserk kale, kefla, aniraza, toppo, and jiren, no one was a match for ssb
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Reis
03/07/18 10:28:35 PM
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Remember when super saiyan 1 was supposed to be the ultimate form of legends and then they kept pulling out more dumb forms

Imagine thinking there's any logic or consistency in DB
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Ararararagi
03/07/18 10:29:25 PM
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Was it?
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
03/07/18 10:29:58 PM
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metralo posted...
no it doesn't

aside from berserk kale, kefla, aniraza, toppo, and jiren, no one was a match for ssb

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Geiki Ganger
03/07/18 10:35:43 PM
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DBS has the worst power scaling of all Shonen.
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LightningAce11
03/07/18 10:37:39 PM
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Why the fuck are regular super saiyans a match for SSB?

Heck, even fusions shouldn't match it if Gotenks was able to do fuck all to Beerus.
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KillCommunism
03/07/18 10:38:34 PM
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I don't really ever remember it being the ultimate form. We always knew there was going to be a white haired Super Saiyan after blue, because Toriyama literally said he wanted a white haired Super Saiyan. We have exactly that now in Ultra Instinct complete.
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metralo
03/07/18 10:42:27 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Why the fuck are regular super saiyans a match for SSB?


they aren't

LightningAce11 posted...

Heck, even fusions shouldn't match it if Gotenks was able to do fuck all to Beerus.


kefla was significantly stronger than gotenks, seven moreso when you consider the fact that berserk kale is overflowing with power and has no end to it
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Akagami_Shanks
03/07/18 10:43:37 PM
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Goku obtains a form with God in the name, one that a god literally dreamed about and takes it a step further. He then gets into a brawl with Frieza who trained for all of 4 months, only ending up on the winning end because Frieza STILL has stamina drain, then fights a supreme kai in his body and gets BTFO'd several times and still doesn't win, and THEN he practices against several of his team members, putting on a pitiful performance against all of them while in blue.

Then the tournament happens and outside of fodder, Blue fails to put down anyone.

idk why the anime has a hate boner for SSB, at least the manga is treating it like a real form
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pikachupwnage
03/08/18 9:37:08 AM
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metralo posted...
no it doesn't

aside from berserk kale, kefla, aniraza, toppo, and jiren, no one was a match for ssb


Yeah. Two fusions(Legendary super Asian +SSJ2 and a four way fusion), a God of destruction candidate and a guy said to surpass even some God's of destruction.

Kale is the only questionable one
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salandrews
03/08/18 9:44:26 AM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
Goku obtains a form with God in the name, one that a god literally dreamed about and takes it a step further. He then gets into a brawl with Frieza who trained for all of 4 months, only ending up on the winning end because Frieza STILL has stamina drain, then fights a supreme kai in his body and gets BTFO'd several times and still doesn't win, and THEN he practices against several of his team members, putting on a pitiful performance against all of them while in blue.

Then the tournament happens and outside of fodder, Blue fails to put down anyone.

idk why the anime has a hate boner for SSB, at least the manga is treating it like a real form


How's the manga showcasing it?
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Master_Bass
03/08/18 9:45:28 AM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Legendary super Asian

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itachi15243
03/08/18 9:47:06 AM
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Ak had said he wanted to use white eventually.

The angels in dbs always have white hair and eyes due to always being in the form. It's literally not a surprise
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Touch
03/08/18 9:51:20 AM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
DBS has the worst power scaling of all Shonen.

Remember when base kid goku beat the strongest villain in the series
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Kaname_Madoka
03/08/18 9:53:03 AM
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Master_Bass posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Legendary super Asian

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Irony
03/08/18 9:55:11 AM
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metralo posted...
no it doesn't

aside from berserk kale, kefla, aniraza, toppo, and jiren, no one was a match for ssb

So basically the whole tournament was a match for it.
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Questionmarktarius
03/08/18 9:56:08 AM
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It's Dragonball. Stop worrying about it. The franchise is the very definition of "power creep".
Every "saga" adds a zero or two to the end of everyone's powerlevel (except Yamcha, who dies again almost immediately), and creates a new "ultimate" Saiyan form.
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salandrews
03/08/18 9:59:01 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
It's Dragonball. Stop worrying about it. The franchise is the very definition of "power creep".
Every "saga" adds a zero or two to the end of everyone's powerlevel (except Yamcha, who dies again almost immediately), and creates a new "ultimate" Saiyan form.


But if we don't worry then Superman people will poke holes in our arguments
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KiwiTerraRizing
03/08/18 10:01:21 AM
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DBZ fans love seeing Goku grunt out a new form so they gotta keep feeding it.

Be cool if super saiyan was only one form and they needed good writing to figure out how to defeat villains.
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Kineth
03/08/18 10:02:21 AM
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No, I don't remember thinking that was the ultimate form.
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Questionmarktarius
03/08/18 10:03:38 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Be cool if super saiyan was only one form and they needed good writing to figure out how to defeat villains.

"Good writing" wouldn't stretch out the "bossfight" over twenty episodes.
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KiwiTerraRizing
03/08/18 10:11:19 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Be cool if super saiyan was only one form and they needed good writing to figure out how to defeat villains.

"Good writing" wouldn't stretch out the "bossfight" over twenty episodes.


I agree
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Irony
03/08/18 10:15:48 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Be cool if super saiyan was only one form and they needed good writing to figure out how to defeat villains.

"Good writing" wouldn't stretch out the "bossfight" over twenty episodes.

What if the villain literally has the power to stretch the fight over 20 episodes like as an actual power
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A_Good_Boy
03/08/18 10:18:00 AM
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Imagine watching a shounen and taking the earliest transformation at face value and not expecting power progression. It was obvious blue wasn't going to be all it was cracked up to be once it was introduced within like the first 10 episodes.
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Akagami_Shanks
03/08/18 12:18:04 PM
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It was introduced in revival of Frieza, the second arc, and was their only transformation until ultra instinct
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