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bloodydeath0
03/05/18 11:30:13 AM
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I can understand not liking the government to handle financial/business related things due to inefficiencies, but overall trust? At the end of the day, politicians are citizens with families.

Example, Christopher Titus (lol) laid out was seemed like actually a pretty solid gun control plan regarding a long process of becoming a certified marksman, but it is rooted in creating a federal registry. To which conservatives would reply "No, because I don't trust the government to handle this."

They already trust the government enough to uphold the constitution and fund a military to keep us safe from foreign threats, why not this for domestic safety?
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DarkProto05
03/05/18 11:31:13 AM
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And they believe their little AR-15s can stop the government from killing them. LMAO
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Darklit_Minuet
03/05/18 11:31:54 AM
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Conservatives don't trust the government, but do trust them to have weapons, worship the military killing people overseas, and always side with cops who kill people.

Liberals trust the government, but don't trust the military or police and don't want them to have guns

It's a strange twist
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Webmaster4531
03/05/18 11:32:16 AM
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#BlueLivesMatter
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Mr_Biscuit
03/05/18 11:32:34 AM
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They dont trust the government but STAND FOR THE FLAG OR LEAVE!!!! RESPECT THE TROOPS!!!! and want the most insanely overpowered military possible
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uwnim
03/05/18 11:32:36 AM
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I dont trust the government or any corporation. Dont get why you have people who are totally fine with one, but not the other. Any large concentration of power is potentially dangerous.
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Caution999
03/05/18 11:32:43 AM
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Uncle Sam is already running private bakeries, so yeah....it's no wonder why.
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Questionmarktarius
03/05/18 11:32:55 AM
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Conservatism is largely composed of cynicism, and the assumption that government will eventually screw up anything it tries to do, quite badly.
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TheVipaGTS
03/05/18 11:33:57 AM
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they do trust the government when its for something they want. they claim to hate it and not trust it when its for something they don't want. its transparent bull shit. they don't "not trust the government". its just a cover for "we only want the government to do things we want like ban abortion and gay marriage and give everyone in the country a gun"...

and even then, i don't know why they have to play the bull shit "we don't trust you" card...just say "we want this, not that"...that's politics. why lie about your reasons for it?
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Rexdragon125
03/05/18 11:34:15 AM
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Except to enforce their religious beliefs
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Fishy
03/05/18 11:34:34 AM
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Well let's see there's amazing government agenies like the FBI that let a child shoot up his school or the VA where veterans have died waiting for treatment.
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Heineken14
03/05/18 11:34:39 AM
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Correction, they don't trust government they aren't running.
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RickyTheBAWSE
03/05/18 11:37:05 AM
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conservatives don't trust the government = okay

anybody else = paranoid conspiracy theorist
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Webmaster4531
03/05/18 11:37:31 AM
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Fishy posted...
Well let's see there's amazing government agenies like the FBI that let a child shoot up his school or the VA where veterans have died waiting for treatment.

Weird how the #BlueLivesMatter #SupportOurTroops party hasn't fixed either one with the largest "military" budget in the world.
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creativerealms
03/05/18 11:38:24 AM
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They control every branch or the government and they still don't trust it?

Oh that's right "deep state."
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Caution999
03/05/18 11:38:37 AM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
conservatives don't trust the government = okay

anybody else = paranoid conspiracy theorist


The general view of conservatives is that they would like a smaller government.
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Fishy
03/05/18 11:39:32 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Weird how the #BlueLivesMatter #SupportOurTroops party hasn't fixed either one with the largest "military" budget in the world.

There's also that fun NFA system for supressors and SBRs that has you waiting months per item you order. Maybe people that like guns don't like the idea of that system being expanded and it taking them a decade to buy a .22.
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Doom_Art
03/05/18 11:39:59 AM
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"The government is corrupt and can't be trusted. Elect me and I'll prove it to you."
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TheVipaGTS
03/05/18 11:39:59 AM
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Caution999 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
conservatives don't trust the government = okay

anybody else = paranoid conspiracy theorist


The general view of conservatives is that they would like a smaller government.

no they don't. they want as much government as possible when it comes to issues they are for. i don't understand why they have to keep perpetuating this "small government" nonsense.
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Mr_Biscuit
03/05/18 11:40:18 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
they do trust the government when its for something they want. they claim to hate it and not trust it when its for something they don't want. its transparent bull shit. they don't "not trust the government". its just a cover for "we only want the government to do things we want like ban abortion and gay marriage and give everyone in the country a gun"...

and even then, i don't know why they have to play the bull shit "we don't trust you" card...just say "we want this, not that"...that's politics. why lie about your reasons for it?

Lol, this is a really good point, though.

I dont start yelling about conspiracies and GUBMENT every time the GOP does shit I dont like.
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RickyTheBAWSE
03/05/18 11:40:42 AM
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Caution999 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
conservatives don't trust the government = okay

anybody else = paranoid conspiracy theorist


The general view of conservatives is that they would like a smaller government.


trust is the topic, actually.
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Webmaster4531
03/05/18 11:41:57 AM
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Fishy posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Weird how the #BlueLivesMatter #SupportOurTroops party hasn't fixed either one with the largest "military" budget in the world.

There's also that fun NFA system for supressors and SBRs that has you waiting months per item you order. Maybe people that like guns don't like the idea of that system being expanded and it taking them a decade to buy a .22.

Sure whatever... So why is the VA still shit with Republicans in power?
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Caution999
03/05/18 11:42:25 AM
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True, fine sir :o

I think it depends on the context. Generally, the paranoid conspiracy theorist doesn't trust the gov't because they believe something nonsensical like they were behind 9/11 or something.
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KingCrabCake
03/05/18 11:44:05 AM
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DarkProto05 posted...
And they believe their little AR-15s can stop the government from killing them. LMAO


This statement has beeen destroyed countless times
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KingCrabCake
03/05/18 11:45:23 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
#BlueLivesMatter

Prolly the smartest shit u ever said
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Questionmarktarius
03/05/18 11:45:33 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
no they don't. they want as much government as possible when it comes to issues they are for. i don't understand why they have to keep perpetuating this "small government" nonsense.

Those are the theocrats and moralists.
The "government is your father" mentality.
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Mr_Biscuit
03/05/18 11:45:36 AM
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Caution999 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
conservatives don't trust the government = okay

anybody else = paranoid conspiracy theorist


The general view of conservatives is that they would like a smaller government.

They say that, but its demonstrably untrue by the actions of the modern GOP.
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Darklit_Minuet
03/05/18 11:48:29 AM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
Caution999 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
conservatives don't trust the government = okay

anybody else = paranoid conspiracy theorist


The general view of conservatives is that they would like a smaller government.

They say that, but its demonstrably untrue by the actions of the modern GOP.

It's true, they just use a different definition of small.

They want a government small enough to fit in your bedroom and arrest you for deviating from their uptight standard
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Fishy
03/05/18 11:56:24 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Sure whatever... So why is the VA still shit with Republicans in power?

It's actually MUCH better. Took me a month to fully develop a claim and had doctor's appointments within a week of claiming. Doesn't change the fact that it's been ass for decades.
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BiggLaw
03/05/18 11:59:57 AM
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I think they mostly just want the "good ol' boys" in there.
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The-Apostle
03/05/18 12:02:23 PM
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Because the government tends to be shit with the services they run.
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bloodydeath0
03/05/18 12:11:14 PM
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The-Apostle posted...
Because the government tends to be shit with the services they run.

DMV is shit but it serves its purpose
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Questionmarktarius
03/05/18 12:12:14 PM
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bloodydeath0 posted...
The-Apostle posted...
Because the government tends to be shit with the services they run.

DMV is shit but it serves its purpose

What? Revenue collection?
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Fishy
03/05/18 12:14:07 PM
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bloodydeath0 posted...
DMV is shit but it serves its purpose

Imagine your whole life being like a trip to the DMV
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hollow_shrine
03/05/18 12:19:23 PM
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This goes all the way back the states rights arguments, debates about federalism, and the establishment of the national bank. It's way old.

I would like to believe their suspicion of federal powers was less of a bad faith self-fulfilling prophesy two hundred years ago.
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BruceWayneJr
03/05/18 12:19:36 PM
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They don't want "other" people to benefit from government services at the same time they benefit from government services. Then most of them are deluded into thinking they got where they are all on their own, trained to ignore all the help they received from a socialist republic and communities designed to prop them up.
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theAteam
03/05/18 12:30:05 PM
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The-Apostle posted...
Because the government tends to be shit with the services they run.


Pretty much this.

I sometimes wonder how a party would do if its main platform was "making government processes more efficient" or something along those lines. Right now it's either "we need more government but we aren't going to make it run better" or "government is wasteful so instead of optimizing the processes we just need to get rid of it"
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darkjedilink
03/05/18 12:36:41 PM
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uwnim posted...
I dont trust the government or any corporation. Dont get why you have people who are totally fine with one, but not the other. Any large concentration of power is potentially dangerous.

This.
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Kaname_Madoka
03/05/18 7:18:44 PM
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only a fool trusts the government

im a socialist even and im glad conservatives dont trust it
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8-bit_Biceps
03/05/18 7:34:56 PM
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There's a difference between trusting the government and mentally investing in it. I don't think that many people really trust the government. I do think there are a lot of people who believe that the government is a work in progress and can be cleansed and fortified in time.
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RoboLaserGandhi
03/05/18 7:54:09 PM
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DarkProto05 posted...
And they believe their little AR-15s can stop the government from killing them. LMAO

I mean for the good part of two decades we've been fighting nothing but a bunch of farmers with rusty AKs. I think ARs will do fine.
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