Current Events > Imagine thinking your little AR-15* will defend you against tyranny

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*or whatever assault rifle you choose

it's not like the government already knows every word you type or your exact location or will roll in with tanks and fighter jets or anything like that

it's the most pathetic defense gun nuts have and is an easy way to know that you don't have to take said person seriously
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Yeah, the government knows all that but can't stop a school shooting.
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Wait so we either get an AR-15 or any assault rifle of our choosing?
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There's that "assault rifle" thing again.
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I mean AK-47s seemed to work out pretty well for the Vietcong.

Imagine thinking a gun free sign would stop children from being murdered.
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well, the government right now is Trump. so protecting against the tyrranical government might actually be a good idea
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Imagine not being bright enough to understand that an armed population is demonstrably a deterrent to tyranny and slaughter.

Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...

Imagine thinking a gun free sign would stop children from being murdered.

Imagine thinking arming teachers would stop a gun shooting
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545x39 posted...

Yeah, the government knows all that but can't stop a school shooting.

get rekt TC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

A small group of armed protesters made the entire federal government stand down.

Cliven Bundy today? He had all charges dismissed.

Imagine what thousands could do.
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Samurontai posted...

Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...

Imagine thinking a gun free sign would stop children from being murdered.

Imagine thinking arming teachers would stop a gun shooting

Eh? You dont think armed resistance would be a factor in a would be shooters decision making? Nor think it could end such a shooting early?

I respect your opinion but Im genuinely curious what the reasoning is there.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

A small group of armed protesters made the entire federal government stand down.

Cliven Bundy today? He had all charges dismissed.

Imagine what thousands could do.

Woah, but according to some people, the government would just no mercy drone strike them and everyone would just move on. Or they would send in a fighter jet to carpet bomb the area.

Samurontai posted...

Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...

Imagine thinking a gun free sign would stop children from being murdered.

Imagine thinking arming teachers would stop a gun shooting

LOL @ Specifying gun.

Imagine the number of school shootings if spitballs counted.

Muffin

this is the first thing i have seen you post that i disagree with

i still love you.... but i disagree.

*leaves in tears*
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Imagine thinking that banning guns will stop all murder ever like the left does.

CapnMuffin posted...

Samurontai posted...

Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...

Imagine thinking a gun free sign would stop children from being murdered.

Imagine thinking arming teachers would stop a gun shooting

Eh? You dont think armed resistance would be a factor in a would be shooters decision making? Nor think it could end such a shooting early?

I respect your opinion but Im genuinely curious what the reasoning is there.

I just don't think that a teacher would have enough training to be able to handle themselves in an active shooting scenario, being as even soldiers who are trained specifically for these scenarios sometimes have trouble doing so

I don't think people who make this argument take all of the variables into account. They just assume "Oh, this person has a gun, they can easily stop this other person who has a gun"

What if a teacher ends up shooting another teacher? Or shoots the wrong student?

So much shit could go wrong in that scenario, even if the teachers were properly trained

And let's not even get into the financial part of the whole thing
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Im_JustMe0129 posted...

Imagine thinking that banning guns will stop all murder ever like the left does.

Nobody thinks this though
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Muffinz0rz posted...

*or whatever assault rifle you choose

Flopic was a flopic in the first sentence.
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Itachi157 posted...

I mean AK-47s seemed to work out pretty well for the Vietcong.

That was the last conventional ground war the US was in. Gulf wars suggest ak47s won't stop planes tanks and drones.
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KILBOTz posted...

That was the last conventional ground war the US was in. Gulf wars suggest ak47s won't stop planes tanks and drones.

That's how the Taliban got completely wiped out, right? And they don't control any of Afghanistan anymore.

Wait....

KILBOTz posted...

Itachi157 posted...

I mean AK-47s seemed to work out pretty well for the Vietcong.

That was the last conventional ground war the US was in. Gulf wars suggest ak47s won't stop planes tanks and drones.

Ummmmm lmao
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Itachi157 posted...

KILBOTz posted...

That was the last conventional ground war the US was in. Gulf wars suggest ak47s won't stop planes tanks and drones.

That's how the Taliban got completely wiped out, right? And they don't control any of Afghanistan anymore.

Wait....

I didn't realize the gulf wars ended with Afghanistan
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Samurontai posted...

I didn't realize the gulf wars ended with Afghanistan

I don't even understand what you're trying to say here. I didn't say it did.

Also not sure what "the gulf wars" is. Is that like the Clone Wars?

I know about the Gulf War, which was a conventional war where government forces fought each other (Saddam's forces vs US-led coalition), not a revolution or insurgency which makes me wonder why it was even brought up (or, was attempted to be brought up).

Yes, the US military is good at conventional warfare. We could BTFO of any other country, really. It's not even something to be proud of or boast about, it's just a fact.

But fighting a revolution/insurgency is very different. And we are not too successful at it. And it being our own country and people will make it different still.

Samurontai posted...

CapnMuffin posted...

Samurontai posted...

Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...

Imagine thinking a gun free sign would stop children from being murdered.

Imagine thinking arming teachers would stop a gun shooting

Eh? You dont think armed resistance would be a factor in a would be shooters decision making? Nor think it could end such a shooting early?

I respect your opinion but Im genuinely curious what the reasoning is there.

I just don't think that a teacher would have enough training to be able to handle themselves in an active shooting scenario, being as even soldiers who are trained specifically for these scenarios sometimes have trouble doing so

I don't think people who make this argument take all of the variables into account. They just assume "Oh, this person has a gun, they can easily stop this other person who has a gun"

What if a teacher ends up shooting another teacher? Or shoots the wrong student?

So much shit could go wrong in that scenario, even if the teachers were properly trained

And let's not even get into the financial part of the whole thing

Youre right. Its best just to let the killer murder as many children as he can at will. Even though its been shown time and time again that as soon as armed resistance shows up the shooters most often either give up or blow their own brains out without the armed resistance getting off a single shot.

Anyone can be trained, many teachers are former service any way.
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