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Pepys Monster 02/24/18 5:39:05 PM #1:	Like if SSRIs and therapy fail to help someone with their depression, and it's really bad. --- I <3 my bae. <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:896698428] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote>Like if SSRIs and therapy fail to help someone with their depression, and it's really bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeonesAlt 02/24/18 5:40:47 PM #2:	Wow... You seriously need to seek help --- But Whose? <cite>SomeonesAlt posted [p:896698494] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote>Wow... You seriously need to seek help</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SapphireOfChaos 02/24/18 5:41:27 PM #3:	No. Keep it only for terminally ill people. Depression is not terminal. --- 3DS: 1590-4884-9269 \| Switch: SW-3337-1639-7884 Discord link: https://discord.gg/hDQ6rWb \| ''Don't forget me!'' ~ RIP Ardainian Soldier meme, Died 18 Jan, 2018 <cite>SapphireOfChaos posted [p:896698527] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote>No. Keep it only for terminally ill people. Depression is not terminal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gafemage 02/24/18 5:42:31 PM #5:	SomeonesAlt posted... Wow... You seriously need to seek help --- http://imgur.com/1EOFcjn http://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:896698579] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeonesAlt posted...</cite> <quote>Wow... You seriously need to seek help</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vulgorn 02/24/18 5:43:57 PM #6:	No. First of all terminal depression doesn't exist. Depression itself can't kill you. You can't die from depression. You can die because of depression, but that's not the same thing. Only in cases of terminal illness of which there is no recovery possible and they're going to die from the disease, guaranteed, should it be allowed imo. --- http://i.imgur.com/ryDA9Rf.gif <cite>Vulgorn posted [p:896698649] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote>No. First of all terminal depression doesn't exist. Depression itself can't kill you. You can't die from depression. You can die because of depression, but that's not the same thing. Only in cases of terminal illness of which there is no recovery possible and they're going to die from the disease, guaranteed, should it be allowed imo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 02/24/18 5:45:25 PM #7:	Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:896698719] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote>Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 02/24/18 5:46:28 PM #8:	Funkydog posted... Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses. What if the ways to combat depression fail? --- I <3 my bae. <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:896698781] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses.</quote> What if the ways to combat depression fail?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 02/24/18 5:46:54 PM #9:	maybe. definitely for schizophrenics, but i'm not sure about depression. --- let's positive thinking [this post tastes like lunch] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:896698800] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote>maybe. definitely for schizophrenics, but i'm not sure about depression.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steve Nick 02/24/18 5:47:46 PM #10:	Pepys Monster posted... Funkydog posted... Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses. What if the ways to combat depression fail? Then just be depressed. It's a condition that causes suffering but the suffering isn't bad enough to warrant suicide. Just doing nothing and accepting it is a valid way to 'combat' it. It's like when someone loses a limb, we don't just kill them. They live out life with 3 limbs. It's not ideal, but it's their life. --- This is my signature. <cite>Steve Nick posted [p:896698845] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses.</quote> What if the ways to combat depression fail?</quote> Then just be depressed. It's a condition that causes suffering but the suffering isn't bad enough to warrant suicide. Just doing nothing and accepting it is a valid way to 'combat' it. It's like when someone loses a limb, we don't just kill them. They live out life with 3 limbs. It's not ideal, but it's their life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 02/24/18 5:48:18 PM #11:	Pepys Monster posted... Funkydog posted... Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses. What if the ways to combat depression fail? Need to keep trying, and not give in to the depression. It is an awful disease that twists and warps your way of thinking and you can't be in a sound mind to think fairly about something like this. Steve Nick posted... It's a condition that causes suffering but the suffering isn't bad enough to warrant suicide. I disagree with that. It very much can warrant it (in the mind of the one suffering anyway) when it gets as bad as it can. Doesn't mean we should actively support it though and should instead continue to do all we can to aid people to handle their depression/find ways to overcome it - be it medication or whatever. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:896698865] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses.</quote> What if the ways to combat depression fail?</quote> Need to keep trying, and not give in to the depression. It is an awful disease that twists and warps your way of thinking and you can't be in a sound mind to think fairly about something like this. <cite>Steve Nick posted...</cite> <quote>It's a condition that causes suffering but the suffering isn't bad enough to warrant suicide. </quote> I disagree with that. It very much can warrant it (in the mind of the one suffering anyway) when it gets as bad as it can. Doesn't mean we should actively support it though and should instead continue to do all we can to aid people to handle their depression/find ways to overcome it - be it medication or whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/24/18 5:49:38 PM #12:	Please check yourself into a mental health facility immediately. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896698937] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote>Please check yourself into a mental health facility immediately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 02/24/18 5:55:37 PM #13:	Steve Nick posted... Pepys Monster posted... Funkydog posted... Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses. What if the ways to combat depression fail? Then just be depressed. It's a condition that causes suffering but the suffering isn't bad enough to warrant suicide. Just doing nothing and accepting it is a valid way to 'combat' it. It's like when someone loses a limb, we don't just kill them. They live out life with 3 limbs. It's not ideal, but it's their life. This post is pretty ignorant dude. --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:896699235] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Steve Nick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses.</quote> What if the ways to combat depression fail?</quote> Then just be depressed. It's a condition that causes suffering but the suffering isn't bad enough to warrant suicide. Just doing nothing and accepting it is a valid way to 'combat' it. It's like when someone loses a limb, we don't just kill them. They live out life with 3 limbs. It's not ideal, but it's their life.</quote> This post is pretty ignorant dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 02/24/18 5:57:05 PM #14:	Pepys Monster posted... Funkydog posted... Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses. What if the ways to combat depression fail? Bro shut the fuck up. Im chronically depressed and wouldve done myself in a long time ago had I not sought professional help. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:896699295] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses.</quote> What if the ways to combat depression fail?</quote> Bro shut the fuck up. Im chronically depressed and wouldve done myself in a long time ago had I not sought professional help.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 02/24/18 5:59:33 PM #15:	Deadpool_18 posted... Pepys Monster posted... Funkydog posted... Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses. What if the ways to combat depression fail? Bro shut the fuck up. Im chronically depressed and wouldve done myself in a long time ago had I not sought professional help. What professional help did you seek, SSRIs and therapy? --- I <3 my bae. <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:896699439] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses.</quote> What if the ways to combat depression fail?</quote> Bro shut the fuck up. Im chronically depressed and wouldve done myself in a long time ago had I not sought professional help.</quote> What professional help did you seek, SSRIs and therapy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 02/24/18 6:01:26 PM #16:	Pepys Monster posted... What professional help did you seek, SSRIs and therapy? They can be wonderful ways to help. Lots of different kinds of therapy and medication as well, if one doesn't work and I would strongly suggest speaking to your doctor or a mental health charity that your country (whatever it is) has --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:896699541] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote>What professional help did you seek, SSRIs and therapy? </quote> They can be wonderful ways to help. Lots of different kinds of therapy and medication as well, if one doesn't work and I would strongly suggest speaking to your doctor or a mental health charity that your country (whatever it is) has</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 02/24/18 6:05:05 PM #17:	Not depression, but definitely terminal illnesses Always remember that there's a chance insurance could simply opt for assisted suicide to be covered over paying for treatment. Plenty of states have wide open holes that let insurance simply opt for treatment over cures, for they matter. Keeps them earning money. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:896699713] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote>Not depression, but definitely terminal illnesses Always remember that there's a chance insurance could simply opt for assisted suicide to be covered over paying for treatment. Plenty of states have wide open holes that let insurance simply opt for treatment over cures, for they matter. Keeps them earning money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 02/24/18 6:08:57 PM #18:	It is exactly how I feel on transgender surgery as well. It is NOT a physical problem, so do not make it a physical one. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:896699908] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote>It is exactly how I feel on transgender surgery as well. It is NOT a physical problem, so do not make it a physical one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 02/24/18 7:34:59 PM #20:	MaverickXeo posted... It is exactly how I feel on transgender surgery as well. It is NOT a physical problem, so do not make it a physical one. lol --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m dont lose your wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:896704241] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote>It is exactly how I feel on transgender surgery as well. It is NOT a physical problem, so do not make it a physical one.</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kanaya413 02/24/18 7:42:26 PM #21:	RedWhiteBlue posted... Absolutely. They are suffering. Let them say their goodbyes and move on. --- Official Secretary of Kyogre's Cascade!!! FC: 5086-1980-2580 IGN: Vivi TSV 4077 Silent Chexmix: "Toxapex is Trump's wall in pixel form." <cite>Kanaya413 posted [p:896704637] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>RedWhiteBlue posted...</cite> <quote>Absolutely. They are suffering. Let them say their goodbyes and move on.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kanaya413 02/24/18 7:43:37 PM #22:	Steve Nick posted... Pepys Monster posted... Funkydog posted... Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses. What if the ways to combat depression fail? Then just be depressed. It's a condition that causes suffering but the suffering isn't bad enough to warrant suicide. Just doing nothing and accepting it is a valid way to 'combat' it. It's like when someone loses a limb, we don't just kill them. They live out life with 3 limbs. It's not ideal, but it's their life. Interesting I wonder why depressed people often commit suicide then --- Official Secretary of Kyogre's Cascade!!! FC: 5086-1980-2580 IGN: Vivi TSV 4077 Silent Chexmix: "Toxapex is Trump's wall in pixel form." <cite>Kanaya413 posted [p:896704697] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Steve Nick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses.</quote> What if the ways to combat depression fail?</quote> Then just be depressed. It's a condition that causes suffering but the suffering isn't bad enough to warrant suicide. Just doing nothing and accepting it is a valid way to 'combat' it. It's like when someone loses a limb, we don't just kill them. They live out life with 3 limbs. It's not ideal, but it's their life.</quote> Interesting I wonder why depressed people often commit suicide then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 02/24/18 7:44:11 PM #23:	Personally no. It should only be in terminally ill situations or patients with unbearable, chronic pain, which tend to overlap Also clinically depressed here. If you're trying to use this to imply something please seek help --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me *saturate* <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:896704726] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote>Personally no. It should only be in terminally ill situations or patients with unbearable, chronic pain, which tend to overlap Also clinically depressed here. If you're trying to use this to imply something please seek help</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrPeppers 02/24/18 7:45:10 PM #24:	For depression? No. For 99% of the people in the ICU......... --- http://i.imgur.com/SGkkbF0.png <cite>MrPeppers posted [p:896704775] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote>For depression? No. For 99% of the people in the ICU.........</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flockaveli 02/24/18 7:46:34 PM #26:	Yeah suicide should be normalized. --- Chicago, greatest city in the world! <cite>Flockaveli posted [p:896704857] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote>Yeah suicide should be normalized.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrPeppers 02/24/18 7:49:18 PM #28:	tote_all posted... @MrPeppers posted... For depression? No. For 99% of the people in the ICU......... What criteria and/or statistics are you using for this? I'm mostly joking. I actually don't know of any physician assisted suicide studies but I'm sure there are a bunch of articles in PubMed somewhere. It's just sad when everyone on the team knows the prognosis of a 94 y.o. with a terminal disease who is on mechanically assisted ventilation, and the family is adamant about doing full resuscitation because they believe in miracles. That being said, I'm glad I really don't have to make those decisions. --- http://i.imgur.com/SGkkbF0.png <cite>MrPeppers posted [p:896704998] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>tote_all posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote>For depression? No. For 99% of the people in the ICU.........</quote> What criteria and/or statistics are you using for this?</quote> I'm mostly joking. I actually don't know of any physician assisted suicide studies but I'm sure there are a bunch of articles in PubMed somewhere. It's just sad when everyone on the team knows the prognosis of a 94 y.o. with a terminal disease who is on mechanically assisted ventilation, and the family is adamant about doing full resuscitation because they believe in miracles. That being said, I'm glad I really don't have to make those decisions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steve Nick 02/24/18 7:51:29 PM #29:	tote_all posted... @Steve Nick posted... Pepys Monster posted... Funkydog posted... Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses. What if the ways to combat depression fail? Then just be depressed. It's a condition that causes suffering but the suffering isn't bad enough to warrant suicide. Just doing nothing and accepting it is a valid way to 'combat' it. It's like when someone loses a limb, we don't just kill them. They live out life with 3 limbs. It's not ideal, but it's their life. Suicide almost exclusively happen on people with depression. Please don't talk about things you know nothing about. Yeah, obviously? I'm saying those people shouldn't kill themselves. There's usually no need to. Just live with your problems if nothing else works. If you can get help and treatment, that's great. But a lot of times just managing the suffering is the only answer. Edit: To clarify the context of my original post, OP was basically saying that if you're depressed, and you try treatment, and treatment doesn't work, then your only option is to kill yourself. I'm saying that killing yourself is not the only option because there is still the option of just carrying your suffering. --- This is my signature. <cite>Steve Nick posted [p:896705103] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>tote_all posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Steve Nick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses.</quote> What if the ways to combat depression fail?</quote> Then just be depressed. It's a condition that causes suffering but the suffering isn't bad enough to warrant suicide. Just doing nothing and accepting it is a valid way to 'combat' it. It's like when someone loses a limb, we don't just kill them. They live out life with 3 limbs. It's not ideal, but it's their life.</quote> Suicide almost exclusively happen on people with depression. Please don't talk about things you know nothing about.</quote> Yeah, obviously? I'm saying those people shouldn't kill themselves. There's usually no need to. Just live with your problems if nothing else works. If you can get help and treatment, that's great. But a lot of times just managing the suffering is the only answer. Edit: To clarify the context of my original post, OP was basically saying that if you're depressed, and you try treatment, and treatment doesn't work, then your only option is to kill yourself. I'm saying that killing yourself is not the only option because there is still the option of just carrying your suffering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kanaya413 02/25/18 3:46:58 AM #32:	RedWhiteBlue posted... Steve Nick posted... You say to just deal with the suffering I doubt you've ever suffered. I really doubt you know what it's like. Every waking day, a nightmare, and people just say to get over it, or downplay it, or offer advice from their bottom of their heart and it just happens to not work. I wouldn't wish depression on anyone, not even Hitler. Yeah you get it --- Official Secretary of Kyogre's Cascade!!! FC: 5086-1980-2580 IGN: Vivi TSV 4077 Silent Chexmix: "Toxapex is Trump's wall in pixel form." <cite>Kanaya413 posted [p:896725078] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>RedWhiteBlue posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Steve Nick posted...</cite> You say to just deal with the suffering I doubt you've ever suffered. I really doubt you know what it's like. Every waking day, a nightmare, and people just say to get over it, or downplay it, or offer advice from their bottom of their heart and it just happens to not work. I wouldn't wish depression on anyone, not even Hitler.</quote> Yeah you get it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vaati_Reborn 02/25/18 4:00:04 AM #33:	Steve Nick posted... Pepys Monster posted... Funkydog posted... Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses. What if the ways to combat depression fail? Then just be depressed. It's a condition that causes suffering but the suffering isn't bad enough to warrant suicide. Just doing nothing and accepting it is a valid way to 'combat' it. It's like when someone loses a limb, we don't just kill them. They live out life with 3 limbs. It's not ideal, but it's their life. and the award for "dumbest post" goes to...! --- https://i.imgur.com/remNMiX.gif <cite>Vaati_Reborn posted [p:896725349] in Should ass... [t:76353906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Steve Nick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Eeeh, not because of depression, no. Ways to combat depression, compared to terminal illnesses.</quote> What if the ways to combat depression fail?</quote> Then just be depressed. It's a condition that causes suffering but the suffering isn't bad enough to warrant suicide. Just doing nothing and accepting it is a valid way to 'combat' it. It's like when someone loses a limb, we don't just kill them. They live out life with 3 limbs. It's not ideal, but it's their life.</quote> and the award for "dumbest post" goes to...!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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