Current Events > These school shootings are not mental health cases

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I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

ImInTHIS posted...

I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

Its prescription drugs.

Ok
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Unreliableness posted...

ImInTHIS posted...

I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

Its prescription drugs.

Nope.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Unreliableness posted...

ImInTHIS posted...

I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

Its prescription drugs.

Nope.

Yep; it is. Sorry youre just unwilling to accept that the blame lies with something other than firearms. Pls go.

Russian agents trying to disarm Americans.

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hockeybub89 posted...

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ImInTHIS posted...

I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

Its prescription drugs.

Nope.

Yep; it is. Sorry youre just unwilling to accept that the blame lies with something other than firearms. Pls go.

I'm not blaming fire arms at all. But to suggest each and everyone of these shootings are mental illness makes no sense. You mean to tell me these teens boys on pills got access to advanced firearms and went shooting up a school?

And we aren't talking about stan

Yes, teens never have mental health problems and are perfectly adjusted people made to do bad things by guns.
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hockeybub89 posted...

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ImInTHIS posted...

I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

Its prescription drugs.

Nope.

Yep; it is. Sorry youre just unwilling to accept that the blame lies with something other than firearms. Pls go.

We all know the two possibilities are that this is the fault of guns or pills. No other possibilities. No intricate problems caused by a combination of factors.

Nope, if you don't think It's all on pills making everyone crazy, then you must think it's all on guns.
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ImInTHIS posted...

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hockeybub89 posted...

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ImInTHIS posted...

I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

Its prescription drugs.

Nope.

Yep; it is. Sorry youre just unwilling to accept that the blame lies with something other than firearms. Pls go.

I'm not blaming fire arms at all. But to suggest each and everyone of these shootings are mental illness makes no sense. You mean to tell me these teens boys on pills got access to advanced firearms and went shooting up a school?

And we aren't talking about stan

These kids have disproportionately oft been prescribed drugs by mental health professionals; which may help them in the short term but exacerbated issues if no longer taken or create new problems if taken over extended periods. Its a magnificently lucrative industry and you will rarely see mainstream blame go to pharma as they can afford to lobby v effectively.

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ImInTHIS posted...

I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

Its prescription drugs.

Nope.

Yep; it is. Sorry youre just unwilling to accept that the blame lies with something other than firearms. Pls go.

We all know the two possibilities are that this is the fault of guns or pills. No other possibilities. No intricate problems caused by a combination of factors.

Nope, if you don't think It's all on pills making everyone crazy, then you must think it's all on guns.

Youre a radical liberal so I made an educated guess.

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ImInTHIS posted...

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hockeybub89 posted...

Unreliableness posted...

ImInTHIS posted...

I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

Its prescription drugs.

Nope.

Yep; it is. Sorry youre just unwilling to accept that the blame lies with something other than firearms. Pls go.

I'm not blaming fire arms at all. But to suggest each and everyone of these shootings are mental illness makes no sense. You mean to tell me these teens boys on pills got access to advanced firearms and went shooting up a school?

And we aren't talking about stan

These kids have disproportionately oft been prescribed drugs by mental health professionals; which may help them in the short term but exacerbated issues if no longer taken or create new problems if taken over extended periods. Its a magnificently lucrative industry and you will rarely see mainstream blame go to pharma as they can afford to lobby v effectively.

This guy is seriously blaming these mass shootings on prescriptions. Lol
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I think the misconception is that aberrant behavior is always the result of mental illness, or that mental healthcare is only for people with mental illnesses
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https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/08/video-antidepressants-make-it-harder-to-empathize/

reminder
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ChainedRedone posted...

Unreliableness posted...

ImInTHIS posted...

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hockeybub89 posted...

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ImInTHIS posted...

I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

Its prescription drugs.

Nope.

Yep; it is. Sorry youre just unwilling to accept that the blame lies with something other than firearms. Pls go.

I'm not blaming fire arms at all. But to suggest each and everyone of these shootings are mental illness makes no sense. You mean to tell me these teens boys on pills got access to advanced firearms and went shooting up a school?

And we aren't talking about stan

These kids have disproportionately oft been prescribed drugs by mental health professionals; which may help them in the short term but exacerbated issues if no longer taken or create new problems if taken over extended periods. Its a magnificently lucrative industry and you will rarely see mainstream blame go to pharma as they can afford to lobby v effectively.

This guy is seriously blaming these mass shootings on prescriptions. Lol

Weve had semi automatic rifles since 1885; school shootings since 1999..... check share value history in pharmaceuticalz

these drugs mess you up big time
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"radical liberal" lmao
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EnragedSlith posted...

I think the misconception is that aberrant behavior is always the result of mental illness, or that mental healthcare is only for people with mental illnesses

No neither is true; youre right. Which means mental healthcare is marketed to people who would otherwise be perfectly healthy and wouldnt exhibit aberrant behavior...

It's totally a mental health crisis. Now watch as I heroically do nothing about that either.
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If it was mental health we'd see more attacks in other nations. We'd also have seen more attacks in earlier decades because of untreated mental illnesses.

It's not drugs either. If there were a reaction, they would respond within the first few weeks as that is when their energy levels rise. That's why you need to watch out for friends with suicidal ideations when they start antidepressants, because they'll still have those thoughts and feelings while also having the energy at last to act upon them.

Don't push that myth, it's offensive and false. It also helps stigmatize mental health sufferers, makes people not want to take their medication that helps and is life saving in cases, helps make mental health problems that are not noted for any violent tendencies to get blamed, and oh, it helps politicians and the general public strip the rights and protections in place for those who aren't a threat to anyone.
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Unreliableness posted...

Weve had semi automatic rifles since 1885; school shootings since 1999..... check share value history in pharmaceuticalz

Nah dude it's the fluoride. Check the history of fluoride tap water incorporation. Hur
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Breaking news today, the puzzle of increasing gun violence at schools has been cracked on, of all things, a video game message board, by ill-informed people who have no idea what they're talking about and no proof to back up their claims.

More at 11

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Unreliableness posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

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hockeybub89 posted...

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ImInTHIS posted...

I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

Its prescription drugs.

Nope.

Yep; it is. Sorry youre just unwilling to accept that the blame lies with something other than firearms. Pls go.

We all know the two possibilities are that this is the fault of guns or pills. No other possibilities. No intricate problems caused by a combination of factors.

Nope, if you don't think It's all on pills making everyone crazy, then you must think it's all on guns.

Youre a radical liberal so I made an educated guess.

So which am I? Radical or liberal?
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Schools are just too damn big.

Social media
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LinksLiege posted...

Breaking news today, the puzzle of increasing gun violence at schools has been cracked on, of all things, a video game message board, by ill-informed people who have no idea what they're talking about and no proof to back up their claims.

More at 11

This just in from the white house: video games are really "violent"

MORE news at 11

gunplagirl posted...

If it was mental health we'd see more attacks in other nations. We'd also have seen more attacks in earlier decades because of untreated mental illnesses.

It's not drugs either. If there were a reaction, they would respond within the first few weeks as that is when their energy levels rise. That's why you need to watch out for friends with suicidal ideations when they start antidepressants, because they'll still have those thoughts and feelings while also having the energy at last to act upon them.

Don't push that myth, it's offensive and false. It also helps stigmatize mental health sufferers, makes people not want to take their medication that helps and is life saving in cases, helps make mental health problems that are not noted for any violent tendencies to get blamed, and oh, it helps politicians and the general public strip the rights and protections in place for those who aren't a threat to anyone.

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gunplagirl posted...

If it was mental health we'd see more attacks in other nations. We'd also have seen more attacks in earlier decades because of untreated mental illnesses.

It's not drugs either. If there were a reaction, they would respond within the first few weeks as that is when their energy levels rise. That's why you need to watch out for friends with suicidal ideations when they start antidepressants, because they'll still have those thoughts and feelings while also having the energy at last to act upon them.

Don't push that myth, it's offensive and false. It also helps stigmatize mental health sufferers, makes people not want to take their medication that helps and is life saving in cases, helps make mental health problems that are not noted for any violent tendencies to get blamed, and oh, it helps politicians and the general public strip the rights and protections in place for those who aren't a threat to anyone.

False; Americas healthcare system is run by a system that protects pharmaceutical profits; therefor the blame lies w neither mental illness nor reasonably prescribed drugs; it belongs w big govt and officials therein being bought by pharmaceuticals to leave in place a system that overprescribes in the interest of sales...

Are you sad sometimes? Ask your doctor about zoloft and become a happy circle smiley face

hockeybub89 posted...

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hockeybub89 posted...

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hockeybub89 posted...

Unreliableness posted...

ImInTHIS posted...

I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

Its prescription drugs.

Nope.

Yep; it is. Sorry youre just unwilling to accept that the blame lies with something other than firearms. Pls go.

We all know the two possibilities are that this is the fault of guns or pills. No other possibilities. No intricate problems caused by a combination of factors.

Nope, if you don't think It's all on pills making everyone crazy, then you must think it's all on guns.

Youre a radical liberal so I made an educated guess.

So which am I? Radical or liberal?

What's the difference?
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Its this you can do whatever you want world were living in, and oh youre perfect, its someones elses fault nonsense.

Put that shit together and you get these shootings and whatever else.
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How many topics is Unreliable going to get destroyed in before he takes the hint lol

Blaming mass shootings on prescriptions. Dude's legitimately r-word

Dude youre just mad lol. Go away.

Asserting that someone has been destroyed is tantamount to 12 year olds comment spamming BTFO on comment sections.

Unreliableness just got BTFO
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Theres no such thing as reasonable discourse here; its literally liberals trying very hard to mimic that famous liberal late night host style of sarcasm; without the relativity or ability to explain why they disagree without either character assasination or circling the argument back to emotional appeals.

Asherlee10 posted...

I don't know what the statistic would be, but the number of teens who become school shooters is going to be less than 1%, hell less than .1%. It isn't common.

Why would you think that someone who shoots up a school would NOT have severe mental issues?

Because there's entire statistics on the matter and mental illnesses aren't common in the shooters, not any more than the general population.

Remember the holocaust? There were perfectly normal, happy German civilians who turned a blind eye to the massacre of Jewish neighbors of theirs. It's never been a mental illness thing. It's been a hate and anger thing, and also a matter of how much they can overlook to get their way.
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gunplagirl posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I don't know what the statistic would be, but the number of teens who become school shooters is going to be less than 1%, hell less than .1%. It isn't common.

Why would you think that someone who shoots up a school would NOT have severe mental issues?

Because there's entire statistics on the matter and mental illnesses aren't common in the shooters, not any more than the general population.

That is untrue. There is an overrepresentation in school shootings of diagnosed mentally ill boys.

Ah, can't specify that last word in that post unreliableness, I've been modded for that several times
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gunplagirl posted...

Ah, can't specify that last word in that post unreliableness, I've been modded for that several times

Well its just a fact so the mods are wrong for it.

gunplagirl posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I don't know what the statistic would be, but the number of teens who become school shooters is going to be less than 1%, hell less than .1%. It isn't common.

Why would you think that someone who shoots up a school would NOT have severe mental issues?

Because there's entire statistics on the matter and mental illnesses aren't common in the shooters, not any more than the general population.

Remember the holocaust? There were perfectly normal, happy German civilians who turned a blind eye to the massacre of Jewish neighbors of theirs. It's never been a mental illness thing. It's been a hate and anger thing, and also a matter of how much they can overlook to get their way.

Are you really normal if you take lives without remorse? If you plan a murder?
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are you implying teenagers aren't volatile little bottles of dangerous chemicals

there's multiple pieces to this "puzzle", either way

hockeybub89 posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I don't know what the statistic would be, but the number of teens who become school shooters is going to be less than 1%, hell less than .1%. It isn't common.

Why would you think that someone who shoots up a school would NOT have severe mental issues?

Because there's entire statistics on the matter and mental illnesses aren't common in the shooters, not any more than the general population.

Remember the holocaust? There were perfectly normal, happy German civilians who turned a blind eye to the massacre of Jewish neighbors of theirs. It's never been a mental illness thing. It's been a hate and anger thing, and also a matter of how much they can overlook to get their way.

Are you really normal if you take lives without remorse? If you plan a murder?

Well I agree with you but the prevalence of murder throughout history and the need to implement law against murder to dissuade people from committing murder it does suggest that murder is intrinsic to large numbers of people.

Humans murder. We have wars and in the US alone we had the slaughter of native persons, slavery, a war over slavery, murder of people on the premise of their being witches... And that's just the first hundred years. Then there's Jim Crow era. One thing we ARE doing better than previous generations is there's less domestic violence related murders.

So yeah, it's pretty easy to say that normal every day people can commit atrocities without having a mental illness. They just get raised into a messed up environment and don't question their conformity because it's not advantageous to do so.
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gunplagirl posted...

Humans murder. We have wars and in the US alone we had the slaughter of native persons, slavery, a war over slavery, murder of people on the premise of their being witches... And that's just the first hundred years. Then there's Jim Crow era. One thing we ARE doing better than previous generations is there's less domestic violence related murders.

So yeah, it's pretty easy to say that normal every day people can commit atrocities without having a mental illness. They just get raised into a messed up environment and don't question their conformity because it's not advantageous to do so.

What if that environment has, dare I say, damaged them mentally? And why can't lots of people be mentally ill? The vast majority of people throughout human history never murder, so it would still be a minority.
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The factor that causes one to disregard the laws or consequences and to sufficiently dehumanize those completely innocent people he plans to kill is generally overperscription of drugs. It is different in an urban or gang context, the distinction there is that the murder carries a real motive; (economic conflict amongst gangs or drug dealers)

hockeybub89 posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Humans murder. We have wars and in the US alone we had the slaughter of native persons, slavery, a war over slavery, murder of people on the premise of their being witches... And that's just the first hundred years. Then there's Jim Crow era. One thing we ARE doing better than previous generations is there's less domestic violence related murders.

So yeah, it's pretty easy to say that normal every day people can commit atrocities without having a mental illness. They just get raised into a messed up environment and don't question their conformity because it's not advantageous to do so.

What if that environment has, dare I say, damaged them mentally? And why can't lots of people be mentally ill? The vast majority of people throughout human history never murder, so it would still be a minority.

In some societies murder was literally REQUIRED... the majority of humans throughout history possibly didnt commit murders but I would not call that majority vast. Murder is found independently in large numbers in nearly every historical society and civilization....

hockeybub89 posted...


It's still not mental illness. They only do evil because they're taught it's good, virtuous, holy. And there's plenty of neurotypical people who will kill and have killed. Consider how much we glorify violence, and how we justify police shootings all the time, and also how people love that "the liberals will have to pry my guns from my cold, dead hands" line. They're perfectly fine mentally. They just can excuse terrible things.

Please don't refer to mentally ill people as damaged as you just implied.
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gunplagirl posted...

Please don't refer to mentally ill people as damaged as you just implied.

They literally are damaged.

Saying they're damaged isn't inherently insulting, it just means they need help.

That they have an issue.

Being soft on the issue and trying to treat them as a normal functioning individual that is just misunderstood is dishonest.
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