D: Criminals don't obey laws, therefore everything should be legal

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Mr_Biscuit 02/19/18 8:04:00 PM #1:	Topic C D View Results lets hear it --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896397511] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote> Topic C D View Results lets hear it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
halomonkey1_3_5 02/19/18 8:04:38 PM #2:	sure --- Billy Mays: July 20, 1958 - June 28, 2009 The Greatest <cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted [p:896397546] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>sure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vita_Aeterna 02/19/18 8:04:50 PM #3:	--- "Bear Island knows no king but the King in the North, whose name is STARK." <cite>Vita_Aeterna posted [p:896397559] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 02/19/18 8:05:42 PM #4:	uh --- https://i.imgur.com/lwkIVOb.png <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:896397614] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>uh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 02/19/18 8:07:05 PM #5:	shit flopic --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:896397698] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>shit flopic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 02/19/18 8:10:18 PM #6:	Makes sense --- "Jesus that's huge" - Leananfurled <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:896397867] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>Makes sense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/19/18 8:12:16 PM #7:	Genocet_10-325 posted... shit flopic Its the #1 argument I see conservatives use about guns though --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896397972] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>shit flopic</quote> Its the #1 argument I see conservatives use about guns though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 02/19/18 8:14:17 PM #8:	No the arguement is why should law abiding citizens have more of their rights stripped away when criminals who dont follow the law to begin with will not be effected. Make policy that targets criminals, criminal activities, and is not fucking over the good people. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:896398070] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>No the arguement is why should law abiding citizens have more of their rights stripped away when criminals who dont follow the law to begin with will not be effected. Make policy that targets criminals, criminal activities, and is not fucking over the good people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bevan306 02/19/18 8:15:50 PM #9:	yeah I don't even lock my doors since criminals will just try to break in anyway --- http://rateyourmusic.com/~bevan http://i.imgur.com/5Ta28.jpg <cite>bevan306 posted [p:896398152] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>yeah I don't even lock my doors since criminals will just try to break in anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 02/19/18 8:17:56 PM #10:	Offworlder1 posted... No the arguement is why should law abiding citizens have more of their rights stripped away when criminals who dont follow the law to begin with will not be effected. Make policy that targets criminals, criminal activities, and is not fucking over the good people. you think having regulations and restrictions (with enforcement) have zero effect on criminals? I don't see how that could be the case. Whether or not its "worth it" is a different question, but it certainly would have some effect, no? <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:896398262] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>No the arguement is why should law abiding citizens have more of their rights stripped away when criminals who dont follow the law to begin with will not be effected. Make policy that targets criminals, criminal activities, and is not fucking over the good people.</quote> you think having regulations and restrictions (with enforcement) have zero effect on criminals? I don't see how that could be the case. Whether or not its "worth it" is a different question, but it certainly would have some effect, no?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/19/18 8:24:27 PM #11:	Offworlder1 posted... No the arguement is why should law abiding citizens have more of their rights stripped away when criminals who dont follow the law to begin with will not be effected. Make policy that targets criminals, criminal activities, and is not fucking over the good people. Making it marginally more inconvenient to get your hands on a legal gun will not "fuck over" or really even affect good people in a meaningful way, but could keep it out of the hands of an antisocial loser in high school who isn't gonna know how to find an AR15 on the black market. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896398643] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>No the arguement is why should law abiding citizens have more of their rights stripped away when criminals who dont follow the law to begin with will not be effected. Make policy that targets criminals, criminal activities, and is not fucking over the good people.</quote> Making it marginally more inconvenient to get your hands on a legal gun will not "fuck over" or really even affect good people in a meaningful way, but could keep it out of the hands of an antisocial loser in high school who isn't gonna know how to find an AR15 on the black market.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 02/19/18 8:28:39 PM #12:	Wow what a dumb topic --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:896398887] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>Wow what a dumb topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 02/19/18 8:29:19 PM #13:	Just make murder illegal. That way gun nuts can keep their guns AND no one will get killed anymore! Win/win --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:896398933] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>Just make murder illegal. That way gun nuts can keep their guns AND no one will get killed anymore! Win/win</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 02/19/18 8:33:21 PM #14:	Nomadic View posted... Just make murder illegal. That way gun nuts can keep their guns AND no one will get killed anymore! Win/win This. --- Loading... <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:896399165] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Just make murder illegal. That way gun nuts can keep their guns AND no one will get killed anymore! Win/win</quote> This.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mike_Stanton 02/19/18 8:39:27 PM #15:	I agree that gun laws will make it more difficult to find a gun, but since guns are both a method for malice and self-defense, there really wouldn't be any effect on crime or homicide even if it does reduce "gun violence." --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong <cite>Mike_Stanton posted [p:896399541] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>I agree that gun laws will make it more difficult to find a gun, but since guns are both a method for malice and self-defense, there really wouldn't be any effect on crime or homicide even if it does reduce "gun violence."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/19/18 8:49:20 PM #16:	P4wn4g3 posted... Wow what a great topic --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896400084] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>Wow what a great topic</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 02/19/18 8:52:35 PM #17:	lol --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:896400268] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/19/18 9:03:22 PM #18:	People like "wow what a ridiculous topic" yet the vote is 10:13 --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896400942] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>People like "wow what a ridiculous topic" yet the vote is 10:13</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcrasternus 02/19/18 9:07:16 PM #19:	On the flipside, should we have incredibly draconian laws that ban/restrict things based on appearance as opposed to function? --- http://i.imgtc.com/tUK3LwiHnb.jpg 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 "But not forgotten." <cite>Malcrasternus posted [p:896401213] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>On the flipside, should we have incredibly draconian laws that ban/restrict things based on appearance as opposed to function?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/19/18 9:09:25 PM #20:	There is now a dead even split in the voting FYI --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896401331] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>There is now a dead even split in the voting FYI</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/19/18 9:15:51 PM #21:	You ban rape and murder and people will just find a way to do them illegally. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896401717] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>You ban rape and murder and people will just find a way to do them illegally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GymTanSoccer 02/19/18 9:20:23 PM #22:	Purge <cite>GymTanSoccer posted [p:896401997] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>Purge</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/19/18 9:28:16 PM #23:	C is now winning --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896402426] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>C is now winning</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mew4ever 02/19/18 9:30:16 PM #24:	I'm a liberal and do happen to own a gun. Some arguments from the pro gun crowd are perfectly valid. The "bad people break laws argument" is absolutely infuriating though. Why the hell is anything illegal if you want to use that argument? --- http://tinyurl.com/qg6jcsu New York Mets 2015 NL Champions. New York Jets: 5-11 <cite>mew4ever posted [p:896402537] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>I'm a liberal and do happen to own a gun. Some arguments from the pro gun crowd are perfectly valid. The "bad people break laws argument" is absolutely infuriating though. Why the hell is anything illegal if you want to use that argument?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 02/19/18 9:34:19 PM #25:	Laws shouldn't be made on the basis of whether or not there exist those who won't follow them. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:896402803] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>Laws shouldn't be made on the basis of whether or not there exist those who won't follow them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wheelman1 02/19/18 9:48:12 PM #26:	America would turn into the most dangerous place on Earth if every crime was legalized. There would be alot more mass murders, theft, and rape. --- XBox Live GT: MastaMez PSN: KoolMez The Topic Killer \_0_/ <cite>The Wheelman1 posted [p:896403670] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>America would turn into the most dangerous place on Earth if every crime was legalized. There would be alot more mass murders, theft, and rape.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Volkswagen_Bros 02/19/18 9:52:44 PM #27:	TC, next time you get groped by a man, he's well within his rights. Just remember that. --- Look! my foot is on the rope! My FOOT is on the rope. If it weren't for that ref, I would've been champion! - Alexa Bliss <cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted [p:896403955] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>TC, next time you get groped by a man, he's well within his rights. Just remember that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/19/18 9:53:55 PM #28:	I'm pretty sure I'm getting scolded by both people who think I voted C and by people who think I voted D --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896404030] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure I'm getting scolded by both people who think I voted C and by people who think I voted D</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/19/18 9:54:18 PM #29:	No laws means there would be no punishments for actions. Criminals may break the laws, but at least when they do that we can punish them. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:896404055] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>No laws means there would be no punishments for actions. Criminals may break the laws, but at least when they do that we can punish them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LJRENEGADE 02/19/18 9:57:50 PM #30:	I mean, isn't the opposite extreme end of that argument "you can kill anybody with anything so let's ban everything" <cite>LJRENEGADE posted [p:896404284] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>I mean, isn't the opposite extreme end of that argument "you can kill anybody with anything so let's ban everything"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClockworkHare 02/19/18 10:01:04 PM #31:	Laws are intended as legal nets for discouraging EVERYONE from committing crimes. They're not really about targeting just a specific type of criminal because, like a net, some things will still pass through. Most criminals who intend to do something that breaks a law are not concerned about legality; they don't care about the law to begin with. They're going to pass through. The law is there to discourage everyone else who sees these criminals breaking the law from thinking "oh so we can all do this". Instead, because of the existence of the law witnesses are more likely to report the criminal behavior, which benefits society on a wider scale because typically no one wants to be the victims of said crimes. --- Bite me like one of your French rolls. http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/flcnpawn.png http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/84543589.gif <cite>ClockworkHare posted [p:896404458] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>Laws are intended as legal nets for discouraging EVERYONE from committing crimes. They're not really about targeting just a specific type of criminal because, like a net, some things will still pass through. Most criminals who intend to do something that breaks a law are not concerned about legality; they don't care about the law to begin with. They're going to pass through. The law is there to discourage everyone else who sees these criminals breaking the law from thinking "oh so we can all do this". Instead, because of the existence of the law witnesses are more likely to report the criminal behavior, which benefits society on a wider scale because typically no one wants to be the victims of said crimes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/19/18 10:11:43 PM #32:	Mr_Biscuit posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... shit flopic Its the #1 argument I see conservatives use about guns though No its not --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896405046] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>shit flopic</quote> Its the #1 argument I see conservatives use about guns though</quote> No its not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/19/18 10:20:01 PM #33:	KingCrabCake posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... shit flopic Its the #1 argument I see conservatives use about guns though No its not I beg to differ --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896405555] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>shit flopic</quote> Its the #1 argument I see conservatives use about guns though</quote> No its not</quote> I beg to differ</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/19/18 10:38:56 PM #34:	Mr_Biscuit posted... KingCrabCake posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... shit flopic Its the #1 argument I see conservatives use about guns though No its not I beg to differ Well you're still wrong --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896406667] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>shit flopic</quote> Its the #1 argument I see conservatives use about guns though</quote> No its not</quote> I beg to differ</quote> Well you're still wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/19/18 10:47:58 PM #35:	I'm not, actually. The #1 argument I've seen has been that any gun control is pointless because criminals will break the law anyway. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896407170] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>I'm not, actually. The #1 argument I've seen has been that any gun control is pointless because criminals will break the law anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/19/18 10:52:57 PM #36:	Mr_Biscuit posted... I'm not, actually. The #1 argument I've seen has been that any gun control is pointless because criminals will break the law anyway. Still wrong --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896407465] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not, actually. The #1 argument I've seen has been that any gun control is pointless because criminals will break the law anyway.</quote> Still wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/19/18 11:51:37 PM #37:	How am I wrong about my own interactions with the conservatives in my life? --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896410433] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>How am I wrong about my own interactions with the conservatives in my life?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 02/19/18 11:54:57 PM #38:	Offworlder1 posted... No the arguement is why should law abiding citizens have more of their rights stripped away when criminals who dont follow the law to begin with will not be effected. Make policy that targets criminals, criminal activities, and is not fucking over the good people. Which is exactly why we should remove the licensing of cars. Innocent people can sometimes not afford the fees or to get a car to get their license, but are punished and unable to buy a car without a license. Meanwhile, criminals continue to drive without licenses and doing whatever they want. Car licensing is unconstitutional and it only takes law-abiding citizens off the road. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:896410593] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>No the arguement is why should law abiding citizens have more of their rights stripped away when criminals who dont follow the law to begin with will not be effected. Make policy that targets criminals, criminal activities, and is not fucking over the good people.</quote> Which is exactly why we should remove the licensing of cars. Innocent people can sometimes not afford the fees or to get a car to get their license, but are punished and unable to buy a car without a license. Meanwhile, criminals continue to drive without licenses and doing whatever they want. Car licensing is unconstitutional and it only takes law-abiding citizens off the road.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/20/18 12:35:28 AM #39:	Dash_Harber posted... Offworlder1 posted... No the arguement is why should law abiding citizens have more of their rights stripped away when criminals who dont follow the law to begin with will not be effected. Make policy that targets criminals, criminal activities, and is not fucking over the good people. Which is exactly why we should remove the licensing of cars. Innocent people can sometimes not afford the fees or to get a car to get their license, but are punished and unable to buy a car without a license. Meanwhile, criminals continue to drive without licenses and doing whatever they want. Car licensing is unconstitutional and it only takes law-abiding citizens off the road. Ummm driving a car isnt a right --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896412374] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>No the arguement is why should law abiding citizens have more of their rights stripped away when criminals who dont follow the law to begin with will not be effected. Make policy that targets criminals, criminal activities, and is not fucking over the good people.</quote> Which is exactly why we should remove the licensing of cars. Innocent people can sometimes not afford the fees or to get a car to get their license, but are punished and unable to buy a car without a license. Meanwhile, criminals continue to drive without licenses and doing whatever they want. Car licensing is unconstitutional and it only takes law-abiding citizens off the road.</quote> Ummm driving a car isnt a right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 02/20/18 1:46:17 AM #40:	KingCrabCake posted... Dash_Harber posted... Offworlder1 posted... No the arguement is why should law abiding citizens have more of their rights stripped away when criminals who dont follow the law to begin with will not be effected. Make policy that targets criminals, criminal activities, and is not fucking over the good people. Which is exactly why we should remove the licensing of cars. Innocent people can sometimes not afford the fees or to get a car to get their license, but are punished and unable to buy a car without a license. Meanwhile, criminals continue to drive without licenses and doing whatever they want. Car licensing is unconstitutional and it only takes law-abiding citizens off the road. Ummm driving a car isnt a right Yes, but not dying from being shot sort of is, so maybe an amendment is in order? <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:896414852] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>No the arguement is why should law abiding citizens have more of their rights stripped away when criminals who dont follow the law to begin with will not be effected. Make policy that targets criminals, criminal activities, and is not fucking over the good people.</quote> Which is exactly why we should remove the licensing of cars. Innocent people can sometimes not afford the fees or to get a car to get their license, but are punished and unable to buy a car without a license. Meanwhile, criminals continue to drive without licenses and doing whatever they want. Car licensing is unconstitutional and it only takes law-abiding citizens off the road.</quote> Ummm driving a car isnt a right</quote> Yes, but not dying from being shot sort of is, so maybe an amendment is in order?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
APM 02/20/18 2:04:51 AM #41:	we need guns to shoot bad people though --- https://imgur.com/a/9W9Yy <cite>APM posted [p:896415474] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>we need guns to shoot bad people though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/20/18 10:09:23 AM #42:	C is actually winning lol --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896427804] in C/D: Crimi... [t:76337118]...</cite> <quote>C is actually winning lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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