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masticatingman
02/18/18 9:43:03 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
masticatingman posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
masticatingman posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
masticatingman posted...
Even though I know this is a joke topic, thats about the worst advice possible. Only thing worse is demanding to come to their place.


Explain to me why, please. I'm listening.


On a first date its best to meet up in public, somewhere you can both feel comfortable.


I've already explained, the girl never has to do anything she doesn't feel comfortable with. Worst case we'll meet up outside my place and walk 2 blocks to a bar/restaurant. But why not give the option to start with a drink at my place? The vast majority of girls are perfectly comfortable with that, so why not at least offer?


Because even more girls are comfortable with meeting up in public.


So if she's not comfortable meeting me outside my building, which is 2 blocks from the place we are going...she doesn't have to show up at all. I'm ok with that. So again...what's the issue?


Youre needlessly losing out on dates by insisting on your plan.
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 9:43:40 PM
#52:


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Dude, you're pressuring people to do things they don't want to do with BS tactics. Just accept it.


If they didn't want to do it...they wouldn't do it. And yet girls show up, willingly come in for a drink and have a good time. If you're just that afraid to ask, that's a whole different problem. I have no such issue at least asking and then adjusting if that's not what the girl wants to do.
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masticatingman
02/18/18 9:44:49 PM
#53:


No_U_L7 posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Dude, you're pressuring people to do things they don't want to do with BS tactics. Just accept it.


If they didn't want to do it...they wouldn't do it. And yet girls show up, willingly come in for a drink and have a good time. If you're just that afraid to ask, that's a whole different problem. I have no such issue at least asking and then adjusting if that's not what the girl wants to do.


You just said you lost out on girls who didnt do your plan.
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02/18/18 9:45:58 PM
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 9:46:46 PM
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masticatingman posted...



Youre needlessly losing out on dates by insisting on your plan.


But I already have enough dates showing up, so the dates i'm "losing out on" are probably just the girls less interested...so again i'm ok with that. I don't need to sleep with or date every girl. If you want to take every date you can, go for it. I personally value my time waaaay more than most people.

REMercsChamp posted...
Thanks TC, this is good advice. Ignore the haters.


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MrDrMan
02/18/18 9:48:53 PM
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This is terrible advice IMO. It depends on how well you know the girl. Some chicks will be weirded out by an invite to your place if they know you very well.

If Im going on a date with a woman I usually just meet her there. That way she doesnt feel like Im coming on strong. If she decides she want to come back its a done deal. Ive never once invited a girl to my current apartment and not smashed. Probably 10 or so chicks but I have a girlfriend now and Im not about that.
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 9:49:48 PM
#58:


masticatingman posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Dude, you're pressuring people to do things they don't want to do with BS tactics. Just accept it.


If they didn't want to do it...they wouldn't do it. And yet girls show up, willingly come in for a drink and have a good time. If you're just that afraid to ask, that's a whole different problem. I have no such issue at least asking and then adjusting if that's not what the girl wants to do.


You just said you lost out on girls who didnt do your plan.


define "lost out on". I personally think the girls "lost out on" me. If girls show up at all, I adjust to whether or not they want to come in. If girls want me to meet them in another part of the city entirely...i'd rather just skip the date entirely. Less likelihood of sex occurring if we are not near my place and the girls aren't interested enough to make the drive to me, it'll be an uphill battle with logistics against me...i get enough dates, thanks but no thanks.
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masticatingman
02/18/18 9:51:30 PM
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 9:54:40 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Dude, you're pressuring people to do things they don't want to do with BS tactics. Just accept it.


If they didn't want to do it...they wouldn't do it. And yet girls show up, willingly come in for a drink and have a good time. If you're just that afraid to ask, that's a whole different problem. I have no such issue at least asking and then adjusting if that's not what the girl wants to do.


Asking with no pressure and pretending to forget your wallet to get em inside are two completely different things.


How is it different? Same thing from the girls perspective, i ask and if they don't want to come in that's fine. I'm just giving them a logical excuse to come in with the wallet thing. It's just you personally feeling weird about purposefully leaving your wallet inside. Because I understand women so well I understand it actually makes them MORE comfortable if there's a logical reason for them to come in.

MrDrMan posted...
This is terrible advice IMO. It depends on how well you know the girl. Some chicks will be weirded out by an invite to your place if they know you very well.

If Im going on a date with a woman I usually just meet her there. That way she doesnt feel like Im coming on strong. If she decides she want to come back its a done deal. Ive never once invited a girl to my current apartment and not smashed. Probably 10 or so chicks but I have a girlfriend now and Im not about that.


There's nothing wrong with coming on slightly strong...as long as you know how to adjust to it after. Some girls actually like it. If a girl doesn't like it, i know how to adjust. And you make it sound like the fact you sleep with every girl you bring back as a good thing...that's actually a bad thing. It's one of those "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take" type of deals. I'll take every gorgeous girl back that's willing to come back. some that I think aren't dtf end up being dtf. I'll take the chance of closing the deal with a beautiful girl any day over the ego stroke of a "high close rate". In any given year I'll pull hundreds of girls back home...and maybe sleep with a fraction of them. But that's fine.
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 9:57:05 PM
#62:


JustMyOpinion posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
masticatingman posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Dude, you're pressuring people to do things they don't want to do with BS tactics. Just accept it.


If they didn't want to do it...they wouldn't do it. And yet girls show up, willingly come in for a drink and have a good time. If you're just that afraid to ask, that's a whole different problem. I have no such issue at least asking and then adjusting if that's not what the girl wants to do.


You just said you lost out on girls who didnt do your plan.


define "lost out on". I personally think the girls "lost out on" me. If girls show up at all, I adjust to whether or not they want to come in. If girls want me to meet them in another part of the city entirely...i'd rather just skip the date entirely. Less likelihood of sex occurring if we are not near my place and the girls aren't interested enough to make the drive to me, it'll be an uphill battle with logistics against me...i get enough dates, thanks but no thanks.


You'd do well on r/redpill


nah, that stuff's bullshit. what i do is real attraction and seduction. i actually understand and like women and am willing to work with them more. i just understand my own value and i'm just not afraid to go after what i want is all.
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 10:03:18 PM
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It sounds like you guys are just afraid to ask for what you want is all...and it's really bizarre, because asking a girl to meet you at your place isn't a big deal AT ALL. Again, I live downtown of a major metropolitan city, so it's actually nice on a cool breezy day to take that 2 block walk with a girl.
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anth0ny
02/18/18 10:04:00 PM
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what i do is real attraction and seduction.


tc, we've tried telling you, having a roofie as backup is NOT really seduction
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anth0ny
02/18/18 10:04:14 PM
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BAD tc >:|

*boops TC*
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MysteryMan923
02/18/18 10:05:23 PM
#66:


No_U_L7 posted...
It sounds like you guys are just afraid to ask for what you want is all...and it's really bizarre, because asking a girl to meet you at your place isn't a big deal AT ALL. Again, I live downtown of a major metropolitan city, so it's actually nice on a cool breezy day to take that 2 block walk with a girl.


ITP: Afraid to ask = not wanting to come off super sketchy.
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Muffinz0rz
02/18/18 10:08:42 PM
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*boops TC*

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No_U_L7
02/18/18 10:11:03 PM
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MysteryMan923 posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
It sounds like you guys are just afraid to ask for what you want is all...and it's really bizarre, because asking a girl to meet you at your place isn't a big deal AT ALL. Again, I live downtown of a major metropolitan city, so it's actually nice on a cool breezy day to take that 2 block walk with a girl.


ITP: Afraid to ask = not wanting to come off super sketchy.


Then sounds like you guys need to learn how to not be super sketchy without going full nice guy. "Meet me outside my place and we'll take a nice 2 block walk and I can show you this sculpture i like on the way to the bar". Is that super sketchy? "I just got a new bottle of my favorite whiskey, let's have a quick drink before heading out for some food". Is that super sketchy? "I'm getting tired of this crowd, let's go back to the loft, play some darts and have one more drink before calling it a night". Is that super sketchy?

This is what I mean when I say that 95% of men are bad with women, they are bad with women in ways they don't even realize.
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 10:21:08 PM
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It's funnh how everyone who disagrees with you is bad with women. I got a fiancee and I didn't even have to do any redpill techniques. To each their own.


you make it sound like having a girlfriend/fiancee/wife is the be all/end all when it comes to girls. that really isn't the measure. if you live your life and are willing to settle (not saying you did), anyone can find someone to marry. I want drastically different things when it comes to girls, including but not limited to: threesomes, full orgies with all women, dating multiple girls simultaneously, having a girl in every city, dating cocktail waitresses, strippers, porn stars, celebrities (haven't done this yet), and so on. I didn't say you couldn't find a wife. I said you couldn't communicate with women in a way that could lead you to exploring your full sexuality in any way you desired with women. For almost all men, that goal is unrealistic. For me, because i'm willing to work at this, all of that is within reason. My goal goes far beyond wanting one girl. If that's all you want, good for you, i hope youre happy. but that is not the way i want to live my lfie.
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 10:23:11 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
It's funnh how everyone who disagrees with you is bad with women. I got a fiancee and I didn't even have to do any redpill techniques. To each their own.


you make it sound like having a girlfriend/fiancee/wife is the be all/end all when it comes to girls. that really isn't the measure. if you live your life and are willing to settle (not saying you did), anyone can find someone to marry. I want drastically different things when it comes to girls, including but not limited to: threesomes, full orgies with all women, dating multiple girls simultaneously, having a girl in every city, dating cocktail waitresses, strippers, porn stars, celebrities (haven't done this yet), and so on. I didn't say you couldn't find a wife. I said you couldn't communicate with women in a way that could lead you to exploring your full sexuality in any way you desired with women. For almost all men, that goal is unrealistic. For me, because i'm willing to work at this, all of that is within reason.


I don't think you understand what "to each their own" means.


i went back and edited something similar to that after. yes, if that's what you want, cool. but it isn't what i want and if you want to fully understand women and attraction, there's a lot more to it than that.
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Lathissamus
02/18/18 10:28:56 PM
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 10:30:51 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
It's funnh how everyone who disagrees with you is bad with women. I got a fiancee and I didn't even have to do any redpill techniques. To each their own.


you make it sound like having a girlfriend/fiancee/wife is the be all/end all when it comes to girls. that really isn't the measure. if you live your life and are willing to settle (not saying you did), anyone can find someone to marry. I want drastically different things when it comes to girls, including but not limited to: threesomes, full orgies with all women, dating multiple girls simultaneously, having a girl in every city, dating cocktail waitresses, strippers, porn stars, celebrities (haven't done this yet), and so on. I didn't say you couldn't find a wife. I said you couldn't communicate with women in a way that could lead you to exploring your full sexuality in any way you desired with women. For almost all men, that goal is unrealistic. For me, because i'm willing to work at this, all of that is within reason.


I don't think you understand what "to each their own" means.


i went back and edited something similar to that after. yes, if that's what you want, cool. but it isn't what i want and if you want to fully understand women and attraction, there's a lot more to it than that.


Hmmm, almost sounds like you don't agree with "To each their own" when apparently according to you the best way to fully understand women and attraction is to lure them into your gingerbread house.


It's more that you're stuck in the headspace of it being me "luring them in" when it's more that i'm giving them an easy excuse to do what they want. lots of girls would want to sleep with guys on the first date, but don't because the guy doesn't make the first move or doesn't make it easy enough for them. i'm just making it easy for the girl to do what she really wants to (and working with them if theres any objections) and then talking/flirting with them to the point they want to go home with me.

For the record, the best way to really understand women is to get out and date as many as possible.
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REMercsChamp
02/18/18 10:31:39 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
according to you the best way to fully understand women and attraction is to lure them into your gingerbread house.

What's wrong with that?
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Deadpool_18
02/18/18 10:32:12 PM
#77:


anth0ny posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Notnreading that shit, but Im in a very healthy relationship regardless of the PUA culture.


What "PUA" culture are you referring to...?

So you're saying you didn't read the topic at all and came into the topic to doing nothing but be negative...

i'm pretty sure incels started as PUA' and then eventually morphed into the incels that we know today


Thats pretty much it.
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 10:37:44 PM
#78:


Deadpool_18 posted...
anth0ny posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Notnreading that shit, but Im in a very healthy relationship regardless of the PUA culture.


What "PUA" culture are you referring to...?

So you're saying you didn't read the topic at all and came into the topic to doing nothing but be negative...

i'm pretty sure incels started as PUA' and then eventually morphed into the incels that we know today


Thats pretty much it.


So, you just saw PUA and that triggered you? What I do is I have an advanced understanding of attraction, male to female dynamics, female psychology and attraction. I used to be absolutely atrocious with women to the point i didn't even get friendzoned...because girls didn't even want to be friends with me. I had to learn somehow and I learned how to understand all of it down to every ounce of science. If you're gonna blind hate someone for trying to improve their lives, there's not much more I can say to convince you otherwise. But not all PUA's are the mystery era scum bags. I've traveled the world and met many from all over the world and yes some are, but some are also very cool guys who just want to live the lives they want.
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Muffinz0rz
02/18/18 10:41:00 PM
#79:


so on a sunday night (what is effectively saturday given the holiday), why are you shitposting here and not out getting laid?
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Deadpool_18
02/18/18 10:41:02 PM
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Hoo boy. Hes still going, isnt he?
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anth0ny
02/18/18 10:44:48 PM
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he's going STRONNNnng. I can't get enough of all these logical explanations of how and why he's so seductive.

actually... yes I can.

shit is annoying
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 10:47:38 PM
#82:


Muffinz0rz posted...
so on a sunday night (what is effectively saturday given the holiday), why are you shitposting here and not out getting laid?


just because i have a master understanding of attraction and women doesn't mean i'm constantly fucking. some days i just want to stay in, like anyone else. i went out and took girls home both of the last 2 nights (a 20 year old fri and a milf last night). but...it's also not even 8 pm yet. I'll probably go out later just for a little bit.
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Muffinz0rz
02/18/18 10:50:10 PM
#83:


No_U_L7 posted...
i have a master understanding of attraction

ERPWCrX
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Alexanaxela
02/18/18 10:51:43 PM
#84:


yeah tc don't know where you picking up chicks that are willing to meet at your place, or go in for drinks first thing upon meeting you on a 1st date
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 10:52:02 PM
#85:


Let me put it this way...not one person has put together any sort of coherent reason why the advice in the OP is poor advice. It all boils down to "that's not the gentlemanly thing to do!" for you guys.
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 10:53:38 PM
#86:


Alexanaxela posted...
yeah tc don't know where you picking up chicks that are willing to meet at your place, or go in for drinks first thing upon meeting you on a 1st date


Anywhere...have you tried asking your girls? And doing it in a non-creepy way? It's really not a big deal. Sometimes on vacation in like vegas, i'd hang out in the hotel lobby and just ask girls walking by if they want to come up for a drink...and some will. Give it a try and some practice and you will see that it works.
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 10:56:32 PM
#87:


Let me put it this way, this is what i do: if you have ever found yourself not knowing what to do in a girl related situation, or have thought girls are so confusing...that never happens to me. i take what is happening and i break down the science of it to reach a solution to that girl related situation.
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hockeybub89
02/18/18 10:58:50 PM
#88:


No_U_L7 posted...
i'd hang out in the hotel lobby and just ask girls walking by if they want to come up for a drink


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Lathissamus
02/18/18 10:59:22 PM
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laughy crying face to this whole topic
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 11:00:08 PM
#90:


hockeybub89 posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
i'd hang out in the hotel lobby and just ask girls walking by if they want to come up for a drink



note that i don't open with that...i stop and talk to them for a few min first...
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marthsheretoo
02/18/18 11:03:03 PM
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Pick up artist pro tip: buy a boat and take the girls into international waters, then get them tipsy-topside.
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anth0ny
02/18/18 11:06:12 PM
#92:


marthsheretoo posted...
Pick up artist pro tip: buy a boat and take the girls into international waters, then get them tipsy-topside.

are you a protege of TC' o_o
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marthsheretoo
02/18/18 11:06:42 PM
#93:


anth0ny posted...
marthsheretoo posted...
Pick up artist pro tip: buy a boat and take the girls into international waters, then get them tipsy-topside.

are you a protege of TC' o_o


I just follow the Dennis system
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Alexanaxela
02/18/18 11:07:24 PM
#94:


No_U_L7 posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
yeah tc don't know where you picking up chicks that are willing to meet at your place, or go in for drinks first thing upon meeting you on a 1st date


Anywhere...have you tried asking your girls? And doing it in a non-creepy way? It's really not a big deal. Sometimes on vacation in like vegas, i'd hang out in the hotel lobby and just ask girls walking by if they want to come up for a drink...and some will. Give it a try and some practice and you will see that it works.

imma have to go with c, final answer
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masticatingman
02/18/18 11:10:35 PM
#95:


Just cut the hole in the box and you're basically home free.
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Joelypoely
02/18/18 11:14:00 PM
#96:


"Come and see my headquarters so you can show me your hindquarters."
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02/18/18 11:14:50 PM
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Tc is too afraid to post a face pic
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No_U_L7
02/18/18 11:15:04 PM
#98:


Alexanaxela posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
yeah tc don't know where you picking up chicks that are willing to meet at your place, or go in for drinks first thing upon meeting you on a 1st date


Anywhere...have you tried asking your girls? And doing it in a non-creepy way? It's really not a big deal. Sometimes on vacation in like vegas, i'd hang out in the hotel lobby and just ask girls walking by if they want to come up for a drink...and some will. Give it a try and some practice and you will see that it works.

imma have to go with c, final answer


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Lathissamus
02/18/18 11:16:55 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Mods, please lock this topic.


Si, final answer.
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