Current Events > Trump: Democrats don't really want to take your guns away

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Antifar
02/17/18 8:18:14 PM
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A_Good_Boy
02/17/18 8:20:02 PM
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Wow, now that's a hot take!
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Steve Nick
02/17/18 8:20:25 PM
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Lol @ all the twitter comments saying "But what are YOU doing Trump?"

Uhh, you guys, Trump has never said he wants to ban guns in the first place.
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scorpion41
02/17/18 8:21:28 PM
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Hes not wrong. All they worried about was passing Obamas healthcare tax...er, plan.
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byrone
02/17/18 8:21:30 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
Lol @ all the twitter comments saying "But what are YOU doing Trump?"

Uhh, you guys, Trump has never said he wants to ban guns in the first place.

What has he done to fix the "mental health problem"?
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prince_leo
02/17/18 8:21:54 PM
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the picture in his banner is so fucking gross
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Steve Nick
02/17/18 8:22:07 PM
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byrone posted...
Steve Nick posted...
Lol @ all the twitter comments saying "But what are YOU doing Trump?"

Uhh, you guys, Trump has never said he wants to ban guns in the first place.

What has he done to fix the "mental health problem"?


Nothing. Isn't that clear on its face?
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byrone
02/17/18 8:22:53 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
byrone posted...
Steve Nick posted...
Lol @ all the twitter comments saying "But what are YOU doing Trump?"

Uhh, you guys, Trump has never said he wants to ban guns in the first place.

What has he done to fix the "mental health problem"?


Nothing. Isn't that clear on its face?

Why not?
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DezDroppedFreak
02/17/18 8:24:01 PM
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Complete_Idi0t
02/17/18 8:24:07 PM
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kinda like how the republicans don't really wanna take obamacare away?
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A_Good_Boy
02/17/18 8:24:57 PM
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Pre-2018: "Dems are terrible, they want to take all of our guns away."
Post-2018: "Dems are terrible, they never wanted to take all our guns away."

CE redhats are always good for a laugh.
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Garioshi
02/17/18 8:26:33 PM
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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ledbowman
02/17/18 8:27:58 PM
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stable genious
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r4X0r
02/17/18 8:29:29 PM
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Uhh, what he said is absolutely correct. Democrats didn't pass gun control when they had the authority to do it with no Republican votes because they didn't want to. They didn't want to for the same reason they always gave up on gun control during the Obama administration- they didn't have the public opinion to do it and not lose seats in Congress.
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Ruvan22
02/17/18 8:30:55 PM
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Does Trump still want to be a "uniter"?
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The Great Muta 22
02/17/18 8:30:57 PM
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Ah yes, we all know that time when Democrats had a filibuster-proof majority in Congress, for all of a little over 4 months...
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itachi15243
02/17/18 8:31:17 PM
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But Obama did put gun control measures in place. Like that ban on selling guns to those with mental illness that Trump got rid of.
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Antifar
02/17/18 8:37:37 PM
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r4X0r posted...
Uhh, what he said is absolutely correct. Democrats didn't pass gun control when they had the authority to do it with no Republican votes because they didn't want to.

Yes. However, this is at odds with the common GOP refrain that Democrats will seek to undermine the second amendment any way they can when given power.
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HydraSlayer82
02/17/18 8:38:35 PM
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byrone posted...
Steve Nick posted...
Lol @ all the twitter comments saying "But what are YOU doing Trump?"

Uhh, you guys, Trump has never said he wants to ban guns in the first place.

What has he done to fix the "mental health problem"?

You mean they wanted to pass the health insurances idea of healthcare. Its no secret health insurance companies love the ACA. Dems just pander (specifically corporatecrats) and when they have power they just pass a lot of the crap this current set of joke republicans pass. They are all beholden to the same people. And yes, these Republicans in power are a fuckin joke. Personal responsibility and small government my ass. Im sick of leftists voting for democrats and people that want small government voting republican. Pay the fuck attention you monkeys.
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Crazyman93
02/17/18 8:39:02 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
Lol @ all the twitter comments saying "But what are YOU doing Trump?"

Uhh, you guys, Trump has never said he wants to ban guns in the first place.

More than that, the NRA publicly supported him during the election. That said, he raises a point.
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Steve Nick
02/17/18 9:06:28 PM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Steve Nick posted...
Lol @ all the twitter comments saying "But what are YOU doing Trump?"

Uhh, you guys, Trump has never said he wants to ban guns in the first place.

More than that, the NRA publicly supported him during the election. That said, he raises a point.


It's pretty obvious why the Dems did nothing during Obama.

If they waggle a finger at guns, they get the support of anti-gun people.

But if they ban guns, they lose the support of a LOT of people.

They want to keep it as a talking point and remain a little left of the republicans on it so that they can make the republicans look bad.
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Sayoria
02/17/18 9:13:22 PM
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Why didn't the Republicans pass healthcare reform when the house and senate are both Republican now?
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StormSignal
02/17/18 9:20:46 PM
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i lold irl
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Steve Nick
02/17/18 9:27:22 PM
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Antifar posted...
r4X0r posted...
Uhh, what he said is absolutely correct. Democrats didn't pass gun control when they had the authority to do it with no Republican votes because they didn't want to.

Yes. However, this is at odds with the common GOP refrain that Democrats will seek to undermine the second amendment any way they can when given power.


If Dems can pretend they want to ban guns, can't Republicans pretend that Dems want to ban guns too?
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Howl
02/17/18 9:29:19 PM
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Complete_Idi0t posted...
kinda like how the republicans don't really wanna take obamacare away?


Lmfao
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Smashingpmkns
02/17/18 9:33:29 PM
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Obama was able to get some gun legislation out... then Trump got rid of it.
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byrone
02/17/18 9:48:58 PM
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@GregShmedley posted...
itachi15243 posted...
But Obama did put gun control measures in place. Like that ban on selling guns to those with mental illness that Trump got rid of.


This is such misleading claim, it isn't even funny. And it's dangerous.

https://www.snopes.com/trump-sign-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-illnesses/
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Dark_Spiret
02/17/18 9:50:03 PM
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a lot of democrats dont or atleast not to the hive minds satisfaction. this creates in-fighting to where nothing substantial gets done even with dems in full control.
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Darkman124
02/17/18 9:58:15 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Hes not wrong. All they worried about was passing Obamas healthcare tax...er, plan.


you're correct--that was where they put all their political capital. at the time, though, the intent was to pass a public option. conservative democrats torpedoed it, and in passing with budgetary reconciliation, for some insane reason, harry reid didn't just switch back to the house bill that had a public option.

dems in 2009-2010 demonstrated a severe lack of political will/organization. had they the cojones to act as the GOP did last year, we'd have an untouchable public health service right now.
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Crazyman93
02/17/18 10:01:30 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
But if they ban guns, they lose the support of a LOT of people.

So that means certain users' "most people support gun control" line is a crock of shit then? Which we knew it was.
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Darkman124
02/17/18 10:03:08 PM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Steve Nick posted...
But if they ban guns, they lose the support of a LOT of people.

So that means certain users' "most people support gun control" line is a crock of shit then? Which we knew it was.


please stop pretending those users were suggesting most people support banning guns
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Antifar
02/17/18 10:09:19 PM
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Democrats did waste their 08-10 majority. Obama was way too concerned with being bipartisan and working with a party that had no interest in working with him ever.

Man, think of all the time that bill spent in committees and review compared to GOP efforts.

Like, if they were gonna pass a limpdick bill, the least they could have done is pass it quickly.
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Darkman124
02/17/18 10:13:59 PM
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Antifar posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Democrats did waste their 08-10 majority. Obama was way too concerned with being bipartisan and working with a party that had no interest in working with him ever.

Man, think of all the time that bill spent in committees and review compared to GOP efforts.

Like, if they were gonna pass a limpdick bill, the least they could have done is pass it quickly.


they were trying really hard to pass a legit bill by following the rules

that failed

then they tried to pass a limpdick bill by following the rules

THAT failed

then they decided to use budgetary reconciliation ('breaking the rules') but kept their limpdick bill, because presumably they figured that would have better optics--somehow--than a good bill
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byrone
02/17/18 10:15:37 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
byrone posted...
GregShmedley posted...
itachi15243 posted...
But Obama did put gun control measures in place. Like that ban on selling guns to those with mental illness that Trump got rid of.


This is such misleading claim, it isn't even funny. And it's dangerous.

https://www.snopes.com/trump-sign-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-illnesses/


I've already written you off as a troll but I said misleading, not false.

The law was BS and impacted law abiding citizens and the blanket use of "mental illness" is disingenuous.

I'm a troll says the shitposting alt from 2012.

How did it impact law abiding citizens unfairly?
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byrone
02/18/18 5:58:18 AM
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@GregShmedley posted...
I'm a shitposting alt

If you say so.

"it's a mental health issue"

"Brb let me repeal this law that makes it difficult for people with mental health issues to get guns"
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 6:01:48 AM
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Why would they, in most states being pro-gun control is an automatic election loss
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Kineth
02/18/18 6:04:22 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Pre-2018: "Dems are terrible, they want to take all of our guns away."
Post-2018: "Dems are terrible, they never wanted to take all our guns away."

CE redhats are always good for a laugh.

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byrone
02/18/18 6:05:13 AM
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GregShmedley posted...
byrone posted...
@GregShmedley posted...
I'm a shitposting alt

If you say so.

"it's a mental health issue"

"Brb let me repeal this law that makes it difficult for people with mental health issues to get guns"


Ah, so you actually don't have anything to add and just wanted to troll.

Must be a miserable existence.

What did facts do to you that made you hate them so much?

It's very sad that you lack the intellectual capacity to do anything other than say "omg ur like totally a troll"

Take two baby Tylenol for your butt pain then close that account.
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Cal12
02/18/18 6:19:36 AM
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byrone posted...
GregShmedley posted...
byrone posted...
@GregShmedley posted...
I'm a shitposting alt

If you say so.

"it's a mental health issue"

"Brb let me repeal this law that makes it difficult for people with mental health issues to get guns"


Ah, so you actually don't have anything to add and just wanted to troll.

Must be a miserable existence.

What did facts do to you that made you hate them so much?

It's very sad that you lack the intellectual capacity to do anything other than say "omg ur like totally a troll"

Take two baby Tylenol for your butt pain then close that account.


Dude literally showed you why the law Trump repealed did nothing to impact people like the Florida shooter from getting his hands on guns and you completely ignore it and post this crap. Wed all be better off if you would close your joke of an account.
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byrone
02/18/18 6:24:23 AM
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Cal12 posted...
byrone posted...
GregShmedley posted...
byrone posted...
@GregShmedley posted...
I'm a shitposting alt

If you say so.

"it's a mental health issue"

"Brb let me repeal this law that makes it difficult for people with mental health issues to get guns"


Ah, so you actually don't have anything to add and just wanted to troll.

Must be a miserable existence.

What did facts do to you that made you hate them so much?

It's very sad that you lack the intellectual capacity to do anything other than say "omg ur like totally a troll"

Take two baby Tylenol for your butt pain then close that account.


Dude literally showed you why the law Trump repealed did nothing to impact people like the Florida shooter from getting his hands on guns and you completely ignore it and post this crap. Wed all be better off if you would close your joke of an account.

Stop white knighting.

It doesn't change the fact that the party of "it's a mental health issue" repealed something that stopped people with mental health issues from getting guns.
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StucklnMyPants
02/18/18 6:25:20 AM
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He's right. Does anyone really believe that Democrats want to be the party that strips Americans of a right? Of course not. They'd lose every election for the next 20 years. Now, when don't actually have the power to do anything, that's the time to yell the loudest. Being unable to do anything, they can point to the other side and blame them for effectively letting tragedies happen and refusing to stop them, which helps increase their odds come next election. This is political theatre 101.
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Steve Nick
02/18/18 7:22:25 AM
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Trump should go absolute madman and introduce a full ban on guns, and watch it get smashed down by congress.
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