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s0nicfan
02/17/18 4:03:38 PM
#51:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
If someone told you it was important that the Washington Redskins change their name to something else, and you didn't care, does that make them wrong?


Does it make me a racist? Because the answer to both of those question should be "no"
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Kitt
02/17/18 4:03:42 PM
#52:


SomeonesAlt posted...
S0nicfan seems irrationally upset over this movie for some reason

When I don't like something, I just disregard it and go on with my day. This dude has been in just about every Black Panther topic posted on here, crying about the same thing. That dedication though.
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Makeveli_lives
02/17/18 4:06:38 PM
#53:


Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
It was the first major R rated Marvel film and it outperformed all the rest.

Blade was rated R. Don't know if the finances broke any records at the time but seeing as there was a trilogy I can only assume decent money was made.

s0nicfan posted...
Bringing up that deadpool was heralded AFTER IT CAME OUT due to how it performed just shows how disingenuous you're being. Find me a deadpool article that looks like this before it came out:
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-42996895/black-panther-why-this-film-is-a-moment

We in the Black Community have been excited for Panther since Civil War. We broke pre-sale ticket records. It's not a moment that will go down in history but we've been waiting for this for over a year only to find out from previews and early reviews that it's actually a good movie, no shit we excited.

Monolith1676 posted...
What is the big deal about it? There have been black comic book hero movies already.

The best contender is Blade and that released in a time where superhero movies outside of a handful (Batman, X-Men, and Spiderman) weren't taken seriously. Now Marvel is a decent part of pop culture in general. It means more now because superhero movies mean more now. Before the superhero movie "genre" was a niche market, not mainstream.
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s0nicfan
02/17/18 4:08:30 PM
#54:


Makeveli_lives posted...
We in the Black Community have been excited for Panther since Civil War. We broke pre-sale ticket records. It's not a moment that will go down in history but we've been waiting for this for over a year only to find out from previews and early reviews that it's actually a good movie, no shit we excited.


That's great. I'm glad you're excited, and I hope the movie does really well. I'll probably see it in a few weeks once its easier to get a ticket. The part I bolded is the piece I think most people are missing.
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s0nicfan
02/17/18 4:10:12 PM
#55:


Kitt posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
S0nicfan seems irrationally upset over this movie for some reason

When I don't like something, I just disregard it and go on with my day. This dude has been in just about every Black Panther topic posted on here, crying about the same thing. That dedication though.


There's been someone like metralo in EVERY topic proclaiming that anyone that thinks this isn't the second coming of jesus is racist. That's literally the only reason I've posted in any BP topic on CE. Go check out the comics board and you'll see nobody is levying that accusation. It's only on CE where that tactic is used.
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RickyTheBAWSE
02/17/18 4:10:48 PM
#56:


s0nicfan posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
s0nicfan posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
s0nicfan posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
before Deadpool dropped, people were giving it titles of greatness, too. it really looks like you're just splitting hairs because there is no REAL difference.

being overly critical out of resentment of other people's excitement is pretty petty, tbh.


Show me where I'm being overly critical, though. I haven't stated a single opinion on the movie and whether I think it's good or bad. I don't reset people who will enjoy it, or are excited for it. Literally all I did was highlight that people are annoyed with the tone of the press coverage prior to release. If I said that some upcoming game was the single most important moment in gaming and anyone who disagreed was just a hater, I would expect people to call me out on hyperbole. This is no different.


so your entire argument is about other people being insecure about other people's joy? sounds like something not worth even mentioning.


Don't be so reductionist. It makes you look disingenuous.


how does dismissing an argument that I feel lacks merit make me look disingenuous? what do you believe I'm misunderstanding about your argument?

I don't find it necessary to defend my taste, my excitement or anything else for the sake of other people's insecurities. why should anybody feel the need to criticize another person's hype over something?


You're reduced the entire societal "conversation" about the movie down to "I'm insecure about other people's joy". It's not about an individual's hype. It's about being told something is important when it isn't, and then being called a racist for disagreeing.


that's some irrational, petty shit you're peddling.

it IS important. maybe not to YOU, but to many. who are YOU to argue it's importance in OTHER people's lives? I could make the same argument about your mother's importance, tbh.

plenty of societal conversations start because a Group A's insecurity over Group B's happiness made them start some shit. you're being disingenuous now.
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Vyrulisse
02/17/18 4:11:00 PM
#57:


Welll it was hyped up as some transcendent film by a lot of media and social media so naturally when people realize it's really just another superhero movie they'll feel a bit let down. Sensible people knew it was just gonna be a good action movie like all the Marvel films.
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Samurontai
02/17/18 4:12:17 PM
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Ricemills
02/17/18 4:14:34 PM
#59:


SomeonesAlt posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Honestly this just sounds like a coordinated effort by a bunch of alt right trolls.

That's all it is


the irony in this event that alt right always saying "we can't give Black Panther bad rating because we will be labeled racist!", then proceed to give it bad rating because of their racism anyway.
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RickyTheBAWSE
02/17/18 4:17:38 PM
#60:


Ricemills posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Honestly this just sounds like a coordinated effort by a bunch of alt right trolls.

That's all it is


the irony in this event that alt right always saying "we can't give Black Panther bad rating because we will be labeled racist!", then proceed to give it bad rating because of their racism anyway.


maybe they didn't like the lighting and sound track? lol
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Makeveli_lives
02/17/18 4:21:07 PM
#61:


s0nicfan posted...

That's great. I'm glad you're excited, and I hope the movie does really well. I'll probably see it in a few weeks once its easier to get a ticket. The part I bolded is the piece I think most people are missing.

It is a handful of publications making this out to be some event that'll be remembered for years to come. Stop acting like it's every other article making that big of a deal about it. Most publications will fall into the "it's pretty good/it's damn good" and leave it at that. You should as well.
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Monolith1676
02/17/18 4:22:01 PM
#62:


Makeveli_lives posted...
Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
It was the first major R rated Marvel film and it outperformed all the rest.

Blade was rated R. Don't know if the finances broke any records at the time but seeing as there was a trilogy I can only assume decent money was made.

s0nicfan posted...
Bringing up that deadpool was heralded AFTER IT CAME OUT due to how it performed just shows how disingenuous you're being. Find me a deadpool article that looks like this before it came out:
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-42996895/black-panther-why-this-film-is-a-moment

We in the Black Community have been excited for Panther since Civil War. We broke pre-sale ticket records. It's not a moment that will go down in history but we've been waiting for this for over a year only to find out from previews and early reviews that it's actually a good movie, no shit we excited.

Monolith1676 posted...
What is the big deal about it? There have been black comic book hero movies already.

The best contender is Blade and that released in a time where superhero movies outside of a handful (Batman, X-Men, and Spiderman) weren't taken seriously. Now Marvel is a decent part of pop culture in general. It means more now because superhero movies mean more now. Before the superhero movie "genre" was a niche market, not mainstream.


I liked Spawn over Blade.
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Makeveli_lives
02/17/18 4:22:38 PM
#63:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...

maybe they didn't like the lighting and sound track? lol

Literally critically acclaimed soundtrack.
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Banjo2553
02/17/18 4:23:49 PM
#64:


Cranie posted...
Maybe people are just finally getting tired of all these shitty superhero movies.

No, a bunch of people conspired to give the movie shitty reviews for no real reason.

Edited to clarify.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
02/17/18 4:24:33 PM
#65:


Sonic, was it a landmark moment for women that Wonder Woman was the best performing female directed film of all time? Is that something important?
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Axiom
02/17/18 4:24:39 PM
#66:


refmon posted...
Look at all the 1/2 stars!

SMH. Not that I'm surprised. I knew trolls would hit this movie hard
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creativerealms
02/17/18 4:29:54 PM
#67:


Right. Why cant Disney pay off for the Cars movies to get good critic reviews?
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thelovefist
02/17/18 4:31:13 PM
#69:


Ricemills posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Honestly this just sounds like a coordinated effort by a bunch of alt right trolls.

That's all it is


the irony in this event that alt right always saying "we can't give Black Panther bad rating because we will be labeled racist!", then proceed to give it bad rating because of their racism anyway.

"If you don't like this movie you're a racist!"
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Banjo2553
02/17/18 4:32:15 PM
#70:


thelovefist posted...
"If you don't like this movie you're a racist!"

Rating it half a star and not mentioning why you hated it definitely seems like it's racism-fueled.
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metralo
02/17/18 4:32:48 PM
#71:


thelovefist posted...
Ricemills posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Honestly this just sounds like a coordinated effort by a bunch of alt right trolls.

That's all it is


the irony in this event that alt right always saying "we can't give Black Panther bad rating because we will be labeled racist!", then proceed to give it bad rating because of their racism anyway.

"If you don't like this movie you're a racist!"


no one is saying that
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masticatingman
02/17/18 4:34:29 PM
#72:


Ruh roh
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Vyrulisse
02/17/18 4:35:28 PM
#73:


Banjo2553 posted...
Cranie posted...
Maybe people are just finally getting tired of all these shitty superhero movies.

No, a bunch of people conspired to give the movie shitty reviews for no real reason.

Edited to clarify.

To be fair it also had a lot of glowing reviews before it was even out so it should even out to where it belongs.
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Banjo2553
02/17/18 4:36:27 PM
#74:


Vyrulisse posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
Cranie posted...
Maybe people are just finally getting tired of all these shitty superhero movies.

No, a bunch of people conspired to give the movie shitty reviews for no real reason.

Edited to clarify.

To be fair it also had a lot of glowing reviews before it was even out so it should even out to where it belongs.

That's true. There were a number of reviews (good and bad) out for the wrong reasons.
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RickyTheBAWSE
02/17/18 4:39:13 PM
#75:


metralo posted...
thelovefist posted...
Ricemills posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Honestly this just sounds like a coordinated effort by a bunch of alt right trolls.

That's all it is


the irony in this event that alt right always saying "we can't give Black Panther bad rating because we will be labeled racist!", then proceed to give it bad rating because of their racism anyway.

"If you don't like this movie you're a racist!"


no one is saying that


if you pay attention to his arguments, you'll see they're often a straw man.
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Funbazooka
02/17/18 5:13:27 PM
#76:


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boxington
02/17/18 5:15:02 PM
#77:


it's funny how so many of those there are
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Akagami_Shanks
02/17/18 5:29:33 PM
#78:


I love how much it triggers certain people that this movie exists. Everyone else can watch the movie and enjoy it, but that group of people just hate on it and went into the movie knowing they were going to hate on it no matter how good or bad it was.
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ReD_ToMaTo
02/17/18 5:30:04 PM
#79:


"If you don't like this movie, you're a racist, alt right troll".
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Delirious_Beard
02/17/18 5:32:26 PM
#80:


to be honest the ratings for it aren't worth following because of both side's extremists giving it high/low ratings just to spite each other
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Dark_SilverX
02/17/18 5:39:30 PM
#81:


Its a black power movie and the white man is upset
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VTBM
02/17/18 5:46:10 PM
#82:


I hope it gets shit reviews like The Last Jedi and teach Disney a lesson.
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boxington
02/17/18 6:00:22 PM
#83:


VTBM posted...
I hope it gets shit reviews like The Last Jedi and teach Disney a lesson.

what lesson?
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dave_is_slick
02/17/18 6:14:33 PM
#84:


VTBM posted...
I hope it gets shit reviews like The Last Jedi and teach Disney a lesson.

Why...?
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02/17/18 6:24:11 PM
#85:


This site is over.
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CyricZ
02/17/18 6:32:03 PM
#86:


When pressed for comment, Star Wars fans were heard to say "Finally the attention is off TLJ".
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I4NRulez
02/17/18 6:48:38 PM
#87:


Cant even give us black people a movie lmao.
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EliteGuard99
02/17/18 6:52:04 PM
#88:


The Alt-Right at it again eh?

First Star Wars and now this.

Man they really hate black people.
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Akagami_Shanks
02/17/18 6:57:56 PM
#89:


I4NRulez posted...
Cant even give us black people a movie lmao.

Lmao nah. One majority black cast movie and people cry foul. Majority white movie and its just "Hollywood". Diverse cast and its SJWs.
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CM_Ponch
02/17/18 7:11:14 PM
#90:


I don't get it, BvS, JL, and SW get bad reviews and everyone laughs and calls them bad movies, BP gets average reviews and suddenly everyone is racist.
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LeadPipeCinche
02/17/18 7:19:22 PM
#91:


Monolith1676 posted...
What is the big deal about it? There have been black comic book hero movies already.


Pick as many as you want:
Black history month.
Anything against a "black" race makes you racist even if they are to stupid to realize its not racism.
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Akagami_Shanks
02/17/18 7:20:06 PM
#92:


CM_Ponch posted...
I don't get it, BvS, JL, and SW get bad reviews and everyone laughs and calls them bad movies, BP gets average reviews and suddenly everyone is racist.

SW is controversial, BvS and JL were poorly reviewed by fans AND critics alike. There weren't mass campaigns to down vote the film before they came out like there was with Black Panther. It's not even comparable. There are even people on twitter claiming they got assaulted at Black Panther premieres, did BvS and JL get that treatment?
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Funbazooka
02/17/18 7:21:06 PM
#93:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
I4NRulez posted...
Cant even give us black people a movie lmao.

Lmao nah. One majority black cast movie and people cry foul. Majority white movie and its just "Hollywood". Diverse cast and its SJWs.

Tons of all black (or nearly) cast movies are released every year ever since the 90's, albeit direct-to-video... unless you're talking about a Tyler Perry Madea masterpiece. Just sayin.
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Akagami_Shanks
02/17/18 7:25:00 PM
#94:


and the point of your post is... that these kinds of movies don't get funded enough to be on the big screen?
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Evil_Evil_Evil_
02/17/18 7:30:24 PM
#95:


i thought black panther was pretty good. i would give it a solid 7.5/10.
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Funbazooka
02/17/18 7:43:25 PM
#96:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
and the point of your post is... that these kinds of movies don't get funded enough to be on the big screen?

It's simply a gentle reminder amidst all the hype, hullabaloo, and even worship of Black Panther.
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DezDroppedFreak
02/17/18 7:58:23 PM
#97:


After getting to see it I can say it is a good film and one of the better Marvel Studios movies. Don't know if I would call it the best, but it's up there
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CM_Ponch
02/17/18 8:00:00 PM
#98:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
There weren't mass campaigns to down vote the film before they came out like there was with Black Panther

Justice League was called a blunder following BvS's release
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dave_is_slick
02/17/18 8:02:30 PM
#99:


CM_Ponch posted...
Justice League was called a blunder following BvS's release

Because of the filming problems that were being reported.
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Prestoff
02/17/18 8:06:12 PM
#100:


dave_is_slick posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
Justice League was called a blunder following BvS's release

Because of the filming problems that were being reported.


Yeah, the changing of directors and the re-shoots were already a bad sign along with the DCEU movies not getting a good track records of reviews (except Wonder Woman).
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CaptainCrunch
02/17/18 8:45:30 PM
#101:


So after seeing it, all I can say is that it's just another marvel flick. Nothing amazing, just more hero biz.
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