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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/16/18 4:52:21 PM
#102:


tremain07 posted...
Trump's response to this is making him look guiltier .


Has a response of his ever made him not look guiltier? >_>
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The Great Muta 22
02/16/18 4:52:57 PM
#103:


darkjedilink posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
I never said that he wasn't. I was instead saying that Obama making that comment in 2012 leaves out the context of Russian action since 2012 and is used as a way to discredit him.

There's no context to ignore. Obama said it, and it was a really fucking stupid thing to say in 2012. Then, in 2014, after Crimea, he doubled-down on that same rhetoric.


I mean I acknowledged Romney was correct in 2012 and that if that's how Obama felt for real in 14 he was wrong again. And if you agree with that then why the hell doesn't our current President enforce bipartisan sanctions on this same country?
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tremain07
02/16/18 4:55:09 PM
#104:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
tremain07 posted...
Trump's response to this is making him look guiltier .


Has a response of his ever made him not look guiltier? >_>

To his crazy supporters I guess, still, what a dumbass thing to say and sure enough there's a tweet from him back then contradicting it
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Ammonitida
02/16/18 4:57:18 PM
#105:


Axiom posted...
Russia being proven to have done what everyone aside from Trump supporters already knew they did. What a shock


Nothing has been "proven" except that Russia's troll farm masqueraded as US citizens when working with Trump's campaign....despite being staffed with Putin henchmen, according to Russian-Trump trolls.
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darkjedilink
02/16/18 5:04:31 PM
#106:


Axiom posted...
Russia being proven to have done what everyone aside from Trump supporters already knew they did. What a shock

Once again, there's no connection to Trump.
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Veggeta_EDGE
02/16/18 5:09:28 PM
#107:


These guys are no doubt funded and supported by Putin right?
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The Great Muta 22
02/16/18 5:11:38 PM
#108:


darkjedilink posted...
Axiom posted...
Russia being proven to have done what everyone aside from Trump supporters already knew they did. What a shock

Once again, there's no connection to Trump.


Which he never claimed in his post....stop trying to change the discussion.

And I'm still wondering, if you admit Obama was wrong in 12 and 14 with his comments about the seriousness of the threat that Russia was, do you think that the President should enforce the bipartisan sanctions that he signed into law yet refused to enforce?
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GreatEvilEmpire
02/16/18 6:15:40 PM
#109:


I don't get it...this was known for almost 6 months since Facebook & Twitter revealed that Russian agents may or may not be linked to the Russian government bought ads on their network and used US social media to organize protests. This is nothing new, but people are acting like it is.

Russia tried to interfere, that much is know, but there still no evidence of collusion.

The ads were anti-Hillary, anti-Trump, pro-Bernie, pro-Trump and pro-Jill Stein. The reach of the ads is unknown, but as someone who actually used ad platforms, the cost is extremely high, ranging anywhere from $.50 to $50 per click, depending on the popularity of the keywords. The conversion ratio is also low compared to how much is spent, so anything who think a million dollar is a lot in ad spending, you don't know ad spending.
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darkjedilink
02/16/18 6:17:35 PM
#110:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Axiom posted...
Russia being proven to have done what everyone aside from Trump supporters already knew they did. What a shock

Once again, there's no connection to Trump.

Which he never claimed in his post....stop trying to change the discussion.

And I'm still wondering, if you admit Obama was wrong in 12 and 14 with his comments about the seriousness of the threat that Russia was, do you think that the President should enforce the bipartisan sanctions that he signed into law yet refused to enforce?

Yes, I do. I never argued otherwise.
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KazumaKiryu
02/16/18 6:27:12 PM
#111:


GreatEvilEmpire posted...
I don't get it...this was known for almost 6 months since Facebook & Twitter revealed that Russian agents may or may not be linked to the Russian government bought ads on their network and used US social media to organize protests. This is nothing new, but people are acting like it is.

Russia tried to interfere, that much is know, but there still no evidence of collusion.

The ads were anti-Hillary, anti-Trump, pro-Bernie, pro-Trump and pro-Jill Stein. The reach of the ads is unknown, but as someone who actually used ad platforms, the cost is extremely high, ranging anywhere from $.50 to $50 per click, depending on the popularity of the keywords. The conversion ratio is also low compared to how much is spent, so anything who think a million dollar is a lot in ad spending, you don't know ad spending.


The indictments are new. This whole presidency feels like a reality show meant to make both sides feel like they've won from time to time. It's like every couple weeks, on a Friday, we'll get some major new revelation. This time it was the democrats turn to celebrate.
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mario2000
02/16/18 6:29:00 PM
#112:


how's that nothingburger taste, redhats?
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s0nicfan
02/16/18 6:31:12 PM
#113:


mario2000 posted...
how's that nothingburger taste, redhats?


Funbazooka posted...
DOJ: There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

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mario2000
02/16/18 6:32:44 PM
#114:


s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
how's that nothingburger taste, redhats?


Funbazooka posted...
DOJ: There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

"w-w-w-well ok russian interference MAY have happened, but you can't prove anyone knew about it!"
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A_Good_Boy
02/16/18 6:33:48 PM
#115:


Sonic and the rest of those trumpeters are moving the goal posts faster than the ball is.
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s0nicfan
02/16/18 6:33:51 PM
#116:


mario2000 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
how's that nothingburger taste, redhats?


Funbazooka posted...
DOJ: There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

"w-w-w-well ok russian interference MAY have happened, but you can't prove anyone knew about it!"


"Any Day Now"
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darkjedilink
02/16/18 6:37:15 PM
#117:


KazumaKiryu posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
I don't get it...this was known for almost 6 months since Facebook & Twitter revealed that Russian agents may or may not be linked to the Russian government bought ads on their network and used US social media to organize protests. This is nothing new, but people are acting like it is.

Russia tried to interfere, that much is know, but there still no evidence of collusion.

The ads were anti-Hillary, anti-Trump, pro-Bernie, pro-Trump and pro-Jill Stein. The reach of the ads is unknown, but as someone who actually used ad platforms, the cost is extremely high, ranging anywhere from $.50 to $50 per click, depending on the popularity of the keywords. The conversion ratio is also low compared to how much is spent, so anything who think a million dollar is a lot in ad spending, you don't know ad spending.


The indictments are new. This whole presidency feels like a reality show meant to make both sides feel like they've won from time to time. It's like every couple weeks, on a Friday, we'll get some major new revelation. This time it was the democrats turn to celebrate.

Celebrate what? That, yet again, we have zero proof Trump had anything to do with Russians interference?
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s0nicfan
02/16/18 6:37:42 PM
#118:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Sonic and the rest of those trumpeters are moving the goal posts faster than the ball is.


The claim from day 1 was "Trump colluded with Russia to rig the election." You won't be able to find a single post I've made saying I don't think Russia tried to influence the election, because I've never said that. I just don't think Trump colluded with Russia to do so. I will continue to say so. The only person moving goalposts is you.
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cerealbox760
02/16/18 6:39:12 PM
#119:


If Muller says theres fishy business going on with Russia, you better believe him. If Muller says theres no fishy business with Trump himself, you better believe him.
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GreatEvilEmpire
02/16/18 6:39:12 PM
#120:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Sonic and the rest of those trumpeters are moving the goal posts faster than the ball is.


Ask yourself this...if there is evidence of collusion, which has been parroted by the media and liberals all year, why hasn't any surfaced yet?

You guys are so easily influenced, no wonder why the Russian agents targeted liberals with their ads. Maybe it was effective because you're so gullible.

People have been calling for impeachment since the first day and nothing concrete has surface, not Comey, not Flynn, not Russian ad buying, nothing.
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mario2000
02/16/18 6:41:11 PM
#121:


Ask yourself this...if there is evidence of collusion, which has been parroted by the media and liberals all year, why hasn't any surfaced yet?

https://tinyurl.com/yat4prae
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GreatEvilEmpire
02/16/18 6:43:15 PM
#122:


mario2000 posted...
Ask yourself this...if there is evidence of collusion, which has been parroted by the media and liberals all year, why hasn't any surfaced yet?

https://tinyurl.com/yat4prae


So you have no real evidence, just a bunch of articles from 'journalists' who think an opinion is evidence. Maybe you should go back to school kid.
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mario2000
02/16/18 6:46:20 PM
#123:


GreatEvilEmpire posted...
mario2000 posted...
Ask yourself this...if there is evidence of collusion, which has been parroted by the media and liberals all year, why hasn't any surfaced yet?

https://tinyurl.com/yat4prae


So you have no real evidence, just a bunch of articles from 'journalists' who think an opinion is evidence. Maybe you should go back to school kid.

i'd find a breitbart or dailywire link for you but there don't seem to be any...hmmm...very strange
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Kazi1212
02/16/18 7:26:39 PM
#124:


So Trump had nothing to do with it? I thought the whole Mueller investigation was into Trump and his administration specifically
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Broseph_Stalin
02/16/18 7:28:35 PM
#125:


Kazi1212 posted...
So Trump had nothing to do with it?


There have already been indictments for people in Trumps administration.
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Kazi1212
02/16/18 7:29:46 PM
#126:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
So Trump had nothing to do with it?


There have already been indictments for people in Trumps administration.


What came of those? Did anybody get convicted?
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VTBM
02/16/18 7:34:37 PM
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Broseph_Stalin
02/16/18 7:36:51 PM
#128:


Kazi1212 posted...
What came of those? Did anybody get convicted?


Two plead guilty, other two are under house arrest awaiting their trial.
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cerealbox760
02/16/18 7:40:17 PM
#129:


Russians are undermining American democracy. Will Trump take action to protect American interests or will he turn a blind eye because it benefits him? Serious question to you Trumpers.
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darkjedilink
02/16/18 7:40:25 PM
#130:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
What came of those? Did anybody get convicted?

Two plead guilty, other two are under house arrest awaiting their trial.

What charges?

Nothing that has anything to do with helping the Russians interfere with the election, I bet.
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Broseph_Stalin
02/16/18 7:47:47 PM
#131:


darkjedilink posted...
What charges?

Nothing that has anything to do with helping the Russians interfere with the election, I bet.

Manafort and Gates:

- Conspiracy against the United States
- Being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal
- Making false and misleading FARA statements

Papadopoulos:

- Making a false statement to FBI investigators about his connections to Russia

Flynn:

- Making false statements to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador

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darkjedilink
02/16/18 7:52:40 PM
#132:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
darkjedilink posted...
What charges?

Nothing that has anything to do with helping the Russians interfere with the election, I bet.

Manafort and Gates:

- Conspiracy against the United States
- Being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal
- Making false and misleading FARA statements

Papadopoulos:

- Making a false statement to FBI investigators about his connections to Russia

Flynn:

- Making false statements to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador

You don't have to bet on anything, you can find it on any site that isn't fake news.

So I'm absolutely right.
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uwnim
02/17/18 7:53:14 AM
#134:


Why are the MAGA trump folks so scared of the investigation anyways? They constantly overreact to everything about it which indicates severe concerns over the possible results.
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Lorenzo_2003
02/17/18 8:25:55 AM
#135:


uwnim posted...
Why are the MAGA trump folks so scared of the investigation anyways? They constantly overreact to everything about it which indicates severe concerns over the possible results.


The FBI are not trust-worthy. This isnt even limited to current times. Go back to J. Edgar Hoover and MLK Jr., go back to the Cold War and the Communist Red Scare. This organization is not transparent, yet they hold a lot of power. I wouldnt trust them to look through my trash, even though Ive never done shit.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/17/18 11:32:00 AM
#136:


Lorenzo_2003 posted...
uwnim posted...
Why are the MAGA trump folks so scared of the investigation anyways? They constantly overreact to everything about it which indicates severe concerns over the possible results.


*deflects*

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Darksaber310
02/17/18 11:50:28 AM
#137:


Because to date, they've started indicting people for following the laws and rules, while choosing not to indict others who did the same. If buying ads on facebook to "turn public opinion" is hackinz our erectionz then I'm awaiting Fox and CNN's indictments any day now. Hell I'd settle for Fusion GPS.

They can start calling it interference when they can prove a systemic hack of the elections themselves.
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gunplagirl
02/17/18 11:58:24 AM
#138:


Darksaber310 posted...
Because to date, they've started indicting people for following the laws and rules, while choosing not to indict others who did the same. If buying ads on facebook to "turn public opinion" is hackinz our erectionz then I'm awaiting Fox and CNN's indictments any day now. Hell I'd settle for Fusion GPS.

They can start calling it interference when they can prove a systemic hack of the elections themselves.

It's like you don't even try looking at the list of charges or understanding the breadth of crimes they can entail
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uwnim
02/17/18 11:59:55 AM
#139:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
uwnim posted...
Why are the MAGA trump folks so scared of the investigation anyways? They constantly overreact to everything about it which indicates severe concerns over the possible results.


*deflects*

Nah, that actually could be a legit reason.
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The Great Muta 22
02/17/18 12:00:06 PM
#140:


Darksaber310 posted...
Because to date, they've started indicting people for following the laws and rules, while choosing not to indict others who did the same. If buying ads on facebook to "turn public opinion" is hackinz our erectionz then I'm awaiting Fox and CNN's indictments any day now. Hell I'd settle for Fusion GPS.

They can start calling it interference when they can prove a systemic hack of the elections themselves.


You could have just said you don't understand how FARA violations work and that you didn't read the indictment instead of pushing this bullshit lie
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The Great Muta 22
02/17/18 12:06:14 PM
#141:


Kazi1212 posted...
So Trump had nothing to do with it? I thought the whole Mueller investigation was into Trump and his administration specifically


And you'd be completely wrong. Here's the actual outline:

By virtue of the authority vested in me as Acting Attorney General, including 28 U.S.C. 509, 510, and 515, in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the Russian governments efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order as follows:

(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice.

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confined by then-FBI Director James B Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. 600.4(a).

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

(d) Sections 600.4 through 600.10 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are applicable to the Special Counsel.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/17/18 12:44:30 PM
#142:


Darksaber310 posted...
Because to date, they've started indicting people for following the laws and rules, while choosing not to indict others who did the same. If buying ads on facebook to "turn public opinion" is hackinz our erectionz then I'm awaiting Fox and CNN's indictments any day now. Hell I'd settle for Fusion GPS.

They can start calling it interference when they can prove a systemic hack of the elections themselves.


Heh heh heh. You said "erection"
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