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KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:39:43 PM #1:	A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896200479] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patchwork 02/16/18 12:40:29 PM #2:	I think the idea is people want to limit the damage a deranged individual can do in a short period of time. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. <cite>Patchwork posted [p:896200531] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>I think the idea is people want to limit the damage a deranged individual can do in a short period of time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 02/16/18 12:40:52 PM #3:	dozens of young people with still-developing brains mass-murder their peers, we try to think beyond the individual blame and wonder if we can actually do something to make the trend stop --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:896200556] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>dozens of young people with still-developing brains mass-murder their peers, we try to think beyond the individual blame and wonder if we can actually do something to make the trend stop</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/16/18 12:41:18 PM #4:	can we not blame both? I blame the idiot who did it and i also understand that his job was made much easier because he had a gun. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896200580] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>can we not blame both? I blame the idiot who did it and i also understand that his job was made much easier because he had a gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 02/16/18 12:41:39 PM #5:	Talking about making it more diificult for nutjobs to arm themselves does not mean they aren't blaming the nutjob --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:896200611] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>Talking about making it more diificult for nutjobs to arm themselves does not mean they aren't blaming the nutjob</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:42:59 PM #6:	Patchwork posted... I think the idea is people want to limit the damage a deranged individual can do in a short period of time. If youre on anti-depressants you shouldnt have a gun. Im okay with that law. But blaming the gun or wanting gun bans is stupid --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896200679] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>Patchwork posted...</cite> <quote>I think the idea is people want to limit the damage a deranged individual can do in a short period of time.</quote> If youre on anti-depressants you shouldnt have a gun. Im okay with that law. But blaming the gun or wanting gun bans is stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:43:32 PM #7:	TheVipaGTS posted... can we not blame both? I blame the idiot who did it and i also understand that his job was made much easier because he had a gun. Lol no we cant cause you know if he wanted to kill someone he would no matter what --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896200708] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>can we not blame both? I blame the idiot who did it and i also understand that his job was made much easier because he had a gun.</quote> Lol no we cant cause you know if he wanted to kill someone he would no matter what</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/16/18 12:44:08 PM #8:	It's almost like ~~driving drunk and having bombs are illegal~~ --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896200733] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>It's almost like driving drunk and having bombs are illegal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patchwork 02/16/18 12:44:49 PM #9:	KingCrabCake posted... Patchwork posted... I think the idea is people want to limit the damage a deranged individual can do in a short period of time. If youre on anti-depressants you shouldnt have a gun. Im okay with that law. But blaming the gun or wanting gun bans is stupid Right. Fair. I don't think anyone is seriously trying to ban all guns. People would like stricter restrictions on who can have guns, though, which is a good idea. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. <cite>Patchwork posted [p:896200767] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Patchwork posted...</cite> <quote>I think the idea is people want to limit the damage a deranged individual can do in a short period of time.</quote> If youre on anti-depressants you shouldnt have a gun. Im okay with that law. But blaming the gun or wanting gun bans is stupid</quote> Right. Fair. I don't think anyone is seriously trying to ban all guns. People would like stricter restrictions on who can have guns, though, which is a good idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/16/18 12:45:00 PM #10:	KingCrabCake posted... TheVipaGTS posted... can we not blame both? I blame the idiot who did it and i also understand that his job was made much easier because he had a gun. Lol no we cant cause you know if he wanted to kill someone he would no matter what he killed 17 people with a gun in a matter of minutes. if he had a knife do you think he would have been able to kill that many people, that quickly, before being stopped? You're right, if he was set on killing people he would have found a way but having a gun made it easier for him to do as much damage as possible...hell if he used a knife we might not have had any casualties...i'll take a stab wound over death any day of the week. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896200777] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>can we not blame both? I blame the idiot who did it and i also understand that his job was made much easier because he had a gun.</quote> Lol no we cant cause you know if he wanted to kill someone he would no matter what</quote> he killed 17 people with a gun in a matter of minutes. if he had a knife do you think he would have been able to kill that many people, that quickly, before being stopped? You're right, if he was set on killing people he would have found a way but having a gun made it easier for him to do as much damage as possible...hell if he used a knife we might not have had any casualties...i'll take a stab wound over death any day of the week.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:45:02 PM #11:	Mr_Biscuit posted... It's almost like ~~driving drunk and having bombs are illegal~~ Kinda like murder --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896200779] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>It's almost like driving drunk and having bombs are illegal</quote> Kinda like murder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchiePeck 02/16/18 12:45:06 PM #12:	Last time I checked both alcohol and the chemicals required to build bombs have fairly sensible regulations on their availability, at least... <cite>ArchiePeck posted [p:896200785] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>Last time I checked both alcohol and the chemicals required to build bombs have fairly sensible regulations on their availability, at least...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:45:42 PM #13:	TheVipaGTS posted... KingCrabCake posted... TheVipaGTS posted... can we not blame both? I blame the idiot who did it and i also understand that his job was made much easier because he had a gun. Lol no we cant cause you know if he wanted to kill someone he would no matter what he killed 17 people with a gun in a matter of minutes. if he had a knife do you think he would have been able to kill that many people, that quickly, before being stopped? You're right, if he was set on killing people he would have found a way but having a gun made it easier for him to do as much damage as possible...hell if he used a knife we might not have had any casualties...i'll take a stab wound over death any day of the week. Running people over...bombs...you know... Also What's your solution...a gun ban? --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896200819] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>can we not blame both? I blame the idiot who did it and i also understand that his job was made much easier because he had a gun.</quote> Lol no we cant cause you know if he wanted to kill someone he would no matter what</quote> he killed 17 people with a gun in a matter of minutes. if he had a knife do you think he would have been able to kill that many people, that quickly, before being stopped? You're right, if he was set on killing people he would have found a way but having a gun made it easier for him to do as much damage as possible...hell if he used a knife we might not have had any casualties...i'll take a stab wound over death any day of the week.</quote> Running people over...bombs...you know... Also What's your solution...a gun ban?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/16/18 12:45:52 PM #14:	KingCrabCake posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... It's almost like ~~driving drunk and having bombs are illegal~~ Kinda like murder ...yes. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, someone who wanted to kill someone was deterred by murder being illegal? --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896200830] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>It's almost like driving drunk and having bombs are illegal</quote> Kinda like murder</quote> ...yes. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, someone who wanted to kill someone was deterred by murder being illegal?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/16/18 12:46:17 PM #15:	The Florida shooter wasn't old enough to drink, but he legally purchased his gun. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:896200851] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>The Florida shooter wasn't old enough to drink, but he legally purchased his gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 02/16/18 12:46:35 PM #16:	The obvious flaw in TCs argument is that there aren't bomb stores nor is it legal to own them. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:896200869] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>The obvious flaw in TCs argument is that there aren't bomb stores nor is it legal to own them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/16/18 12:47:28 PM #17:	Coffeebeanz posted... The obvious flaw in TCs argument is that there aren't bomb stores nor is it legal to own them. I mean, seriously, this. I don't even know what the fuck his point is. If the Boston Marathon bombing happened with a legal explosive the dude picked up at Walmart, I'm pretty sure we'd talk about outlawing that. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:896200928] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>The obvious flaw in TCs argument is that there aren't bomb stores nor is it legal to own them.</quote> I mean, seriously, this. I don't even know what the fuck his point is. If the Boston Marathon bombing happened with a legal explosive the dude picked up at Walmart, I'm pretty sure we'd talk about outlawing that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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orcus_snake 02/16/18 12:48:51 PM #19:	KingCrabCake posted... A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok Nice tweet, also last time I check we have explosives control thank you for vying for gun control. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:896201017] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok</quote> Nice tweet, also last time I check we have explosives control thank you for vying for gun control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:48:59 PM #20:	Coffeebeanz posted... The obvious flaw in TCs argument is that there aren't bomb stores nor is it legal to own them. And its not legal to kill people either.... There's liquor stores tho --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896201022] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>The obvious flaw in TCs argument is that there aren't bomb stores nor is it legal to own them.</quote> And its not legal to kill people either.... There's liquor stores tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:49:39 PM #21:	orcus_snake posted... KingCrabCake posted... A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok Nice tweet, also last time I check we have explosives control thank you for vying for gun control. We have gun control too... --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896201053] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok</quote> Nice tweet, also last time I check we have explosives control thank you for vying for gun control.</quote> We have gun control too...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffeebeanz 02/16/18 12:50:17 PM #23:	To put it into perspective it's kind of like saying if nukes were legal and a single person decided to set one off we would still allowed nukes to be legal. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:896201087] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>To put it into perspective it's kind of like saying if nukes were legal and a single person decided to set one off we would still allowed nukes to be legal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchiePeck 02/16/18 12:50:19 PM #24:	Antifar posted... The Florida shooter wasn't old enough to drink, but he legally purchased his gun. This pretty much says it all. He was known to the FBI as a potential risk and was still allowed to have serious firepower because "muh gunz". <cite>ArchiePeck posted [p:896201089] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>The Florida shooter wasn't old enough to drink, but he legally purchased his gun.</quote> This pretty much says it all. He was known to the FBI as a potential risk and was still allowed to have serious firepower because "muh gunz".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:50:45 PM #25:	M_Live posted... Cars =/= guns. Cars are a method of transportation. Guns are a weapon. I know this is hard concept for conversatives to grasp, but, they're different. Guns are a right....i know this is hard for you to understand.....but you know its different --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896201116] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>M_Live posted...</cite> <quote>Cars =/= guns. Cars are a method of transportation. Guns are a weapon. I know this is hard concept for conversatives to grasp, but, they're different.</quote> Guns are a right....i know this is hard for you to understand.....but you know its different</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 02/16/18 12:51:00 PM #26:	I mean, seriously, this. I don't even know what the fuck his point is. Just regurgitating what people type that he thinks makes sense. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:896201131] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>I mean, seriously, this. I don't even know what the fuck his point is. Just regurgitating what people type that he thinks makes sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:51:12 PM #27:	Coffeebeanz posted... To put it into perspective it's kind of like saying if nukes were legal and a single person decided to set one off we would still allowed nukes to be legal. Strawman for a 10000 --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896201145] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>To put it into perspective it's kind of like saying if nukes were legal and a single person decided to set one off we would still allowed nukes to be legal.</quote> Strawman for a 10000</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 02/16/18 12:51:23 PM #28:	Drunk driving, alcohol companies raise awareness for safe driving Gun violence, NRA lobbies congress to do nothing and we continue to decrease spending on mental health --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:896201157] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>Drunk driving, alcohol companies raise awareness for safe driving Gun violence, NRA lobbies congress to do nothing and we continue to decrease spending on mental health</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:52:56 PM #29:	orcus_snake posted... I mean, seriously, this. I don't even know what the fuck his point is. Just regurgitating what people type that he thinks makes sense. Says the person who doesnt know theres gun control already --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896201256] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, seriously, this. I don't even know what the fuck his point is. Just regurgitating what people type that he thinks makes sense.</quote> Says the person who doesnt know theres gun control already</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 02/16/18 12:52:57 PM #30:	KingCrabCake posted... orcus_snake posted... KingCrabCake posted... A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok Nice tweet, also last time I check we have explosives control thank you for vying for gun control. We have gun control too... Tell that to the people that stricter gun control tho. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:896201257] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok</quote> Nice tweet, also last time I check we have explosives control thank you for vying for gun control.</quote> We have gun control too...</quote> Tell that to the people that stricter gun control tho.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:53:18 PM #31:	I Like Toast posted... Drunk driving, alcohol companies raise awareness for safe driving Gun violence, NRA lobbies congress to do nothing and we continue to decrease spending on mental health Gun deaths are on the decline --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896201278] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Drunk driving, alcohol companies raise awareness for safe driving Gun violence, NRA lobbies congress to do nothing and we continue to decrease spending on mental health</quote> Gun deaths are on the decline</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 02/16/18 12:53:41 PM #32:	KingCrabCake posted... Coffeebeanz posted... To put it into perspective it's kind of like saying if nukes were legal and a single person decided to set one off we would still allowed nukes to be legal. Strawman for a 10000 I'm talking about his argument that you can never blame the weapon. Not necessarily that it completely applies to gun ownership. There are instances in which you can blame simply the legality of owning something is more dangerous than whether or not people are mentally unstable when they have it. I actually support gun ownership. I am just trying to point out the fact that his argument does not always hold Merit. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:896201314] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>To put it into perspective it's kind of like saying if nukes were legal and a single person decided to set one off we would still allowed nukes to be legal.</quote> Strawman for a 10000</quote> I'm talking about his argument that you can never blame the weapon. Not necessarily that it completely applies to gun ownership. There are instances in which you can blame simply the legality of owning something is more dangerous than whether or not people are mentally unstable when they have it. I actually support gun ownership. I am just trying to point out the fact that his argument does not always hold Merit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:54:05 PM #33:	orcus_snake posted... KingCrabCake posted... orcus_snake posted... KingCrabCake posted... A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok Nice tweet, also last time I check we have explosives control thank you for vying for gun control. We have gun control too... Tell that to the people that stricter gun control tho. But Thats a broad statement...what does gun control to you mean? People cry gun control but dont go into detail what they mean --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896201335] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok</quote> Nice tweet, also last time I check we have explosives control thank you for vying for gun control.</quote> We have gun control too...</quote> Tell that to the people that stricter gun control tho.</quote> But Thats a broad statement...what does gun control to you mean? People cry gun control but dont go into detail what they mean</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlCalavicci 02/16/18 12:54:12 PM #34:	Antifar posted... The Florida shooter wasn't old enough to drink, but he legally purchased his gun. I would love to hear both side's arguments on this. If you're not old/mature enough to drink, are you old/mature enough to own a gun? Should the gun age be raised to 21? Should the alcohol age be lowered to 18? --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! <cite>AlCalavicci posted [p:896201341] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>The Florida shooter wasn't old enough to drink, but he legally purchased his gun.</quote> I would love to hear both side's arguments on this. If you're not old/mature enough to drink, are you old/mature enough to own a gun? Should the gun age be raised to 21? Should the alcohol age be lowered to 18?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 02/16/18 12:54:13 PM #35:	KingCrabCake posted... orcus_snake posted... I mean, seriously, this. I don't even know what the fuck his point is. Just regurgitating what people type that he thinks makes sense. Says the person who doesnt know theres gun control already I mean I know you have to apply for a permit, and that concealed or open carry have harsher rules for applying, you knwo exactly what I meant. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:896201343] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, seriously, this. I don't even know what the fuck his point is. Just regurgitating what people type that he thinks makes sense.</quote> Says the person who doesnt know theres gun control already</quote> I mean I know you have to apply for a permit, and that concealed or open carry have harsher rules for applying, you knwo exactly what I meant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 02/16/18 12:55:03 PM #36:	Unless you want to amke fun of ploiticians vying for gun control, lul gun control already exist bubs. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:896201386] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>Unless you want to amke fun of ploiticians vying for gun control, lul gun control already exist bubs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 02/16/18 12:55:06 PM #37:	Another KingCrabCake flopic Cars are tools that people don't use to injure/kill someone Good luck trying to make a bomb, pretty sure it's not an easy thing to do Nobody's letting this guy get away with murdering 17 people, pretty sure he's getting a lion's share of the blame But hey, 2nd amendment and all that <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:896201390] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>Another KingCrabCake flopic Cars are tools that people don't use to injure/kill someone Good luck trying to make a bomb, pretty sure it's not an easy thing to do Nobody's letting this guy get away with murdering 17 people, pretty sure he's getting a lion's share of the blame But hey, 2nd amendment and all that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 02/16/18 12:55:41 PM #38:	I mean that is simply not true. The campaign against drunk driving includes shaming and punishing the individuals responsible, but also has an emphasis on systemic changes to our legal and transit systems which could help reduce drunk driving deaths -- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3823314/ Based on the definition proposed by Becker and Posner [37], we classifed these drinking and driving policies into two categories: preventive and ex-postregulations. Preventive regulations were enacted to prevent drinking and driving, including the Beer tax, MLDA, and Open Container Laws, whereas ex-post regulations were enacted to penalize drivers under the influence of alcohol, including the 0.08 BAC limit, ALR, the Safety Belt Law, the Zero Tolerance Law, speed limits, and DUI fines. Although some laws such as the beer tax, speed limits, and the Safety Belt Law were not intended to reduce alcohol-related collisions, numerous studies have observed that these laws had direct and significant effects on alcohol-related fatalities. Specifically, the effects of the beer tax on alcohol-related fatalities were widely examined. For example, the empirical results of Chaloupka and Wechsler [38], Phelps [39], Kenkel [40], Saffer and Grossman [12], and Mann et al. [41] showed a significant negative correlation between the beer tax and alcohol-related fatalities, whereas the empirical results of Sloan and Githens [42], Dee [18], Mast et al. [43], and Young and Likens [36] indicated that the relationship between the beer tax and alcohol-related fatalities was neither significant nor necessarily negatively correlated... On the other hand, drinking habits and attitudes may not be easily changed in the areas with high alcohol-related fatalities; ex-post regulations are thus important for discouraging drinking people driving on the road. As a result, ex-post regulations are more important in the areas with high fatalities whereas preventive regulations are intended to prevent alcohol abuse and thus decrease alcohol-related fatalities in the areas with low fatalities. in fact there are movements to systemically change our transit system to stop driving deaths even when they aren't related to alcohol! http://www.governing.com/topics/transportation-infrastructure/gov-pedestrian-deaths-vision-zero-sweden.html this talking point always drives me crazy when people say shit like 'cars kill lots of people, why don't we ban them!?' well we do a lot of public policy work related to reducing those deaths you jackass hypothetical person --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:896201423] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>I mean that is simply not true. The campaign against drunk driving includes shaming and punishing the individuals responsible, but also has an emphasis on systemic changes to our legal and transit systems which could help reduce drunk driving deaths -- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3823314/ Based on the definition proposed by Becker and Posner [37], we classifed these drinking and driving policies into two categories: preventive and ex-postregulations. Preventive regulations were enacted to prevent drinking and driving, including the Beer tax, MLDA, and Open Container Laws, whereas ex-post regulations were enacted to penalize drivers under the influence of alcohol, including the 0.08 BAC limit, ALR, the Safety Belt Law, the Zero Tolerance Law, speed limits, and DUI fines. Although some laws such as the beer tax, speed limits, and the Safety Belt Law were not intended to reduce alcohol-related collisions, numerous studies have observed that these laws had direct and significant effects on alcohol-related fatalities. Specifically, the effects of the beer tax on alcohol-related fatalities were widely examined. For example, the empirical results of Chaloupka and Wechsler [38], Phelps [39], Kenkel [40], Saffer and Grossman [12], and Mann et al. [41] showed a significant negative correlation between the beer tax and alcohol-related fatalities, whereas the empirical results of Sloan and Githens [42], Dee [18], Mast et al. [43], and Young and Likens [36] indicated that the relationship between the beer tax and alcohol-related fatalities was neither significant nor necessarily negatively correlated... On the other hand, drinking habits and attitudes may not be easily changed in the areas with high alcohol-related fatalities; ex-post regulations are thus important for discouraging drinking people driving on the road. As a result, ex-post regulations are more important in the areas with high fatalities whereas preventive regulations are intended to prevent alcohol abuse and thus decrease alcohol-related fatalities in the areas with low fatalities. in fact there are movements to systemically change our transit system to stop driving deaths even when they aren't related to alcohol! http://www.governing.com/topics/transportation-infrastructure/gov-pedestrian-deaths-vision-zero-sweden.html this talking point always drives me crazy when people say shit like 'cars kill lots of people, why don't we ban them!?' well we do a lot of public policy work related to reducing those deaths you jackass hypothetical person</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:56:02 PM #39:	orcus_snake posted... Unless you want to amke fun of ploiticians vying for gun control, lul gun control already exist bubs. All depends on what they mean when thry say it --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896201440] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote>Unless you want to amke fun of ploiticians vying for gun control, lul gun control already exist bubs.</quote> All depends on what they mean when thry say it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 12:56:34 PM #41:	ThanksUglyGod posted... Another KingCrabCake flopic Cars are tools that people don't use to injure/kill someone Good luck trying to make a bomb, pretty sure it's not an easy thing to do Nobody's letting this guy get away with murdering 17 people, pretty sure he's getting a lion's share of the blame But hey, 2nd amendment and all that Yes 2nd amendment is important...sorry --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896201468] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote>Another KingCrabCake flopic Cars are tools that people don't use to injure/kill someone Good luck trying to make a bomb, pretty sure it's not an easy thing to do Nobody's letting this guy get away with murdering 17 people, pretty sure he's getting a lion's share of the blame But hey, 2nd amendment and all that</quote> Yes 2nd amendment is important...sorry</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 02/16/18 12:56:52 PM #42:	KingCrabCake posted... I Like Toast posted... Drunk driving, alcohol companies raise awareness for safe driving Gun violence, NRA lobbies congress to do nothing and we continue to decrease spending on mental health Gun deaths are on the decline https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#/media/File%3ATotal_deaths_in_US_mass_shootings.png --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:896201490] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Drunk driving, alcohol companies raise awareness for safe driving Gun violence, NRA lobbies congress to do nothing and we continue to decrease spending on mental health</quote> Gun deaths are on the decline</quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#/media/File%3ATotal_deaths_in_US_mass_shootings.png</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/16/18 12:57:31 PM #43:	TC, if i told you we should do away with DUI laws because people still drive drunk and hurt people anyway and those laws hinder Americans who can drive just fine at .09% would you be in favor of that? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896201521] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>TC, if i told you we should do away with DUI laws because people still drive drunk and hurt people anyway and those laws hinder Americans who can drive just fine at .09% would you be in favor of that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchiePeck 02/16/18 12:59:42 PM #44:	Guys, TC is either trolling or he's a southern "ma gunz" type with learning difficulties. Either way we won't be able to educate him. <cite>ArchiePeck posted [p:896201635] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>Guys, TC is either trolling or he's a southern "ma gunz" type with learning difficulties. Either way we won't be able to educate him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 02/16/18 1:00:07 PM #45:	conservative talking points are really just the dumbest things --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:896201672] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>conservative talking points are really just the dumbest things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanHarenChamp 02/16/18 1:00:29 PM #46:	KingCrabCake posted... A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok which is why alcohol is limited to 21 and older and building or owning any kind of bomb is most likely illegal. --- literally the jags <cite>DanHarenChamp posted [p:896201697] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok</quote> which is why alcohol is limited to 21 and older and building or owning any kind of bomb is most likely illegal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 1:00:40 PM #47:	TheVipaGTS posted... TC, if i told you we should do away with DUI laws because people still drive drunk and hurt people anyway and those laws hinder Americans who can drive just fine at .09% would you be in favor of that? Im for gun control in the terms of banning people with mental issues from owning a gun. Im against gun control that raises the age or bans guns. --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896201709] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>TC, if i told you we should do away with DUI laws because people still drive drunk and hurt people anyway and those laws hinder Americans who can drive just fine at .09% would you be in favor of that?</quote> Im for gun control in the terms of banning people with mental issues from owning a gun. Im against gun control that raises the age or bans guns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 02/16/18 1:00:58 PM #48:	tc is a fake account, right? --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:896201731] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote>tc is a fake account, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/16/18 1:01:39 PM #49:	DanHarenChamp posted... KingCrabCake posted... A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok which is why alcohol is limited to 21 and older and building or owning any kind of bomb is most likely illegal. Like murder is illegal --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896201766] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>DanHarenChamp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>A fucking piece of shit shoots up a place...we blame the gun... Ok</quote> which is why alcohol is limited to 21 and older and building or owning any kind of bomb is most likely illegal.</quote> Like murder is illegal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/16/18 1:02:20 PM #51:	prettyprincess posted... tc is a fake account, right? Yes (Sarcasm) --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896201801] in Drunk driv... [t:76325643]...</cite> <quote><cite>prettyprincess posted...</cite> <quote>tc is a fake account, right?</quote> Yes (Sarcasm)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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