Current Events > Congress is looking to, uh, weaken the Americans with Disabilities Act

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Antifar 02/15/18 3:23:06 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/civilrightsorg/status/964183215899594753 --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:896147067] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/civilrightsorg/status/964183215899594753</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 02/15/18 3:27:04 PM #2:	The Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. 12101) is a civil rights law that prohibits discrimination based on disability. It affords similar protections against discrimination to Americans with disabilities as the Civil Rights Act of 1964,[1] which made discrimination based on race, religion, sex, national origin, and other characteristics illegal. In addition, unlike the Civil Rights Act, the ADA also requires covered employers to provide reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities, and imposes accessibility requirements on public accommodations.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_with_Disabilities_Act_of_1990 Ahh that is not Good. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:896147345] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><quote>The Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. 12101) is a civil rights law that prohibits discrimination based on disability. It affords similar protections against discrimination to Americans with disabilities as the Civil Rights Act of 1964,[1] which made discrimination based on race, religion, sex, national origin, and other characteristics illegal. In addition, unlike the Civil Rights Act, the ADA also requires covered employers to provide reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities, and imposes accessibility requirements on public accommodations.[2]</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_with_Disabilities_Act_of_1990 Ahh that is not Good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 02/15/18 3:28:14 PM #4:	CrimsonRage posted... of course they are --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:896147434] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>of course they are</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/15/18 3:29:09 PM #5:	Here's more context on the bill that passed the House https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-comment-house-passage-bill-weakens-americans-disabilities-act The bill creates a new notice and cure requirement in the Americans with Disabilities Act, which would force people with disabilities to provide businesses with written notice of access barriers that need to be fixed, then wait for months to see if substantial progress has been made in removing them. This effectively exempts businesses from complying with their obligations under the ADA and proactively ensuring that people with disabilities have access to places of public accommodation. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:896147504] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>Here's more context on the bill that passed the House https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-comment-house-passage-bill-weakens-americans-disabilities-act <quote>The bill creates a new notice and cure requirement in the Americans with Disabilities Act, which would force people with disabilities to provide businesses with written notice of access barriers that need to be fixed, then wait for months to see if substantial progress has been made in removing them. This effectively exempts businesses from complying with their obligations under the ADA and proactively ensuring that people with disabilities have access to places of public accommodation.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 02/15/18 3:29:22 PM #6:	I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally? Why do people with disabilities deserve special treatment? Seems kinda hypocritical to me. --- Sometimes people come along and they want to change things. I am one of those people and I will assist in furthering our country for the better. - Xsquader <cite>iClockwork posted [p:896147517] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally? Why do people with disabilities deserve special treatment? Seems kinda hypocritical to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 02/15/18 3:29:37 PM #7:	What's next? --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:896147537] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>What's next?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/15/18 3:32:11 PM #8:	iClockwork posted... I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally That is kind of the point of the ADA --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896147703] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally</quote> That is kind of the point of the ADA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 02/15/18 3:33:33 PM #9:	hockeybub89 posted... iClockwork posted... I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally That is kind of the point of the ADA Then why do they get special laws written --- Sometimes people come along and they want to change things. I am one of those people and I will assist in furthering our country for the better. - Xsquader <cite>iClockwork posted [p:896147797] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally</quote> That is kind of the point of the ADA</quote> Then why do they get special laws written </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 02/15/18 3:34:38 PM #10:	iClockwork posted... hockeybub89 posted... iClockwork posted... I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally That is kind of the point of the ADA Then why do they get special laws written So that they will be treated equally <cite>Axiom posted [p:896147866] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally</quote> That is kind of the point of the ADA</quote> Then why do they get special laws written </quote> So that they will be treated equally</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/15/18 3:35:40 PM #11:	This country is fucked with the current majority...how do people still support that party? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896147926] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>This country is fucked with the current majority...how do people still support that party?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 02/15/18 3:36:59 PM #12:	Axiom posted... So that they will be treated equally Giving them special privileges isn't treating them equally. --- Sometimes people come along and they want to change things. I am one of those people and I will assist in furthering our country for the better. - Xsquader <cite>iClockwork posted [p:896148003] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>So that they will be treated equally </quote> Giving them special privileges isn't treating them equally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/15/18 3:39:06 PM #13:	iClockwork posted... hockeybub89 posted... iClockwork posted... I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally That is kind of the point of the ADA Then why do they get special laws written Why send an ambulance to people in a medical emergency? They don't do that for people that aren't in a medical emergency! --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896148155] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally</quote> That is kind of the point of the ADA</quote> Then why do they get special laws written </quote> Why send an ambulance to people in a medical emergency? They don't do that for people that aren't in a medical emergency!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/15/18 3:40:21 PM #14:	iClockwork posted... Axiom posted... So that they will be treated equally Giving them special privileges isn't treating them equally. Those "special" privileges allow them to obtain equality. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896148240] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>So that they will be treated equally </quote> Giving them special privileges isn't treating them equally.</quote> Those "special" privileges allow them to obtain equality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrAyFoX312k 02/15/18 3:41:33 PM #15:	Why are they trying to pass this? --- "A cornered fox is more dangerous than a jackal!" -Grayfox XBL/PSN : GrayFox312k 3DS: 1907-9227-8659 <cite>GrAyFoX312k posted [p:896148328] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>Why are they trying to pass this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
halomonkey1_3_5 02/15/18 3:43:20 PM #16:	is there a legitimate argument in favor of this or --- Billy Mays: July 20, 1958 - June 28, 2009 The Greatest <cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted [p:896148464] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>is there a legitimate argument in favor of this or</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 02/15/18 3:44:21 PM #17:	hockeybub89 posted... iClockwork posted... Axiom posted... So that they will be treated equally Giving them special privileges isn't treating them equally. Those "special" privileges allow them to obtain equality. No it doesn't --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.png <cite>Irony posted [p:896148534] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>So that they will be treated equally </quote> Giving them special privileges isn't treating them equally.</quote> Those "special" privileges allow them to obtain equality.</quote> No it doesn't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordRazziel 02/15/18 3:46:44 PM #19:	Irony posted... hockeybub89 posted... iClockwork posted... Axiom posted... So that they will be treated equally Giving them special privileges isn't treating them equally. Those "special" privileges allow them to obtain equality. No it doesn't Explain --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896148690] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Irony posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>So that they will be treated equally </quote> Giving them special privileges isn't treating them equally.</quote> Those "special" privileges allow them to obtain equality.</quote> No it doesn't</quote> Explain</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/15/18 3:47:05 PM #20:	halomonkey1_3_5 posted... is there a legitimate argument in favor of this or Shopping mall lobbyists https://twitter.com/Lollardfish/status/964195481307017217 --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:896148717] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted...</cite> <quote>is there a legitimate argument in favor of this or</quote> Shopping mall lobbyists https://twitter.com/Lollardfish/status/964195481307017217</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 02/15/18 3:48:50 PM #21:	Wow I know they couldn't have planned this in advance, but man having this bill pass the day after a mass school shooting is brilliant timing for the GOP. This is going to get limited media coverage. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:896148838] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>Wow I know they couldn't have planned this in advance, but man having this bill pass the day after a mass school shooting is brilliant timing for the GOP. This is going to get limited media coverage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitlord_Special 02/15/18 4:18:36 PM #22:	You guys realize theres an established practice of certain lawyers or disabled folks who will go around and troll businesses looking for minor or obscure ADA violations and sue them for a payout. Few articles from just the last year explaining the problem https://www.dailynews.com/2017/05/24/ada-lawsuit-abuse-remains-a-problem/ https://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/23/disability-violation-lawsuits/ http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/02/small-businesses-targeted-by-ada-lawsuits/ Wtf we love predatory lawsuits now <cite>Pitlord_Special posted [p:896150685] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>You guys realize theres an established practice of certain lawyers or disabled folks who will go around and troll businesses looking for minor or obscure ADA violations and sue them for a payout. Few articles from just the last year explaining the problem https://www.dailynews.com/2017/05/24/ada-lawsuit-abuse-remains-a-problem/ https://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/23/disability-violation-lawsuits/ http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/02/small-businesses-targeted-by-ada-lawsuits/ Wtf we love predatory lawsuits now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 02/15/18 4:21:41 PM #23:	Pitlord_Special posted... You guys realize theres an established practice of certain lawyers or disabled folks who will go around and troll businesses looking for minor or obscure ADA violations and sue them for a payout. Few articles from just the last year explaining the problem https://www.dailynews.com/2017/05/24/ada-lawsuit-abuse-remains-a-problem/ https://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/23/disability-violation-lawsuits/ http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/02/small-businesses-targeted-by-ada-lawsuits/ Wtf we love predatory lawsuits now Ssh... everything conservatives do is pure, unadulterated evil completely devoid of logic or reason. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:896150854] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pitlord_Special posted...</cite> <quote>You guys realize theres an established practice of certain lawyers or disabled folks who will go around and troll businesses looking for minor or obscure ADA violations and sue them for a payout. Few articles from just the last year explaining the problem https://www.dailynews.com/2017/05/24/ada-lawsuit-abuse-remains-a-problem/ https://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/23/disability-violation-lawsuits/ http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/02/small-businesses-targeted-by-ada-lawsuits/ Wtf we love predatory lawsuits now</quote> Ssh... everything conservatives do is pure, unadulterated evil completely devoid of logic or reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iClockwork 02/15/18 4:23:55 PM #25:	LordRazziel posted... Why send an ambulance to people in a medical emergency? They don't do that for people that aren't in a medical emergency! If all people have access to the ambulance when they have an emergency than it is equal. --- Sometimes people come along and they want to change things. I am one of those people and I will assist in furthering our country for the better. - Xsquader <cite>iClockwork posted [p:896150998] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>Why send an ambulance to people in a medical emergency? They don't do that for people that aren't in a medical emergency! </quote> If all people have access to the ambulance when they have an emergency than it is equal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 02/15/18 4:25:31 PM #26:	iClockwork posted... hockeybub89 posted... iClockwork posted... I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally That is kind of the point of the ADA Then why do they get special laws written Because without such laws, they would be screwed over constantly. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:896151086] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally</quote> That is kind of the point of the ADA</quote> Then why do they get special laws written </quote> Because without such laws, they would be screwed over constantly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 02/15/18 4:26:48 PM #27:	Pitlord_Special posted... You guys realize theres an established practice of certain lawyers or disabled folks who will go around and troll businesses looking for minor or obscure ADA violations and sue them for a payout. Few articles from just the last year explaining the problem https://www.dailynews.com/2017/05/24/ada-lawsuit-abuse-remains-a-problem/ https://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/23/disability-violation-lawsuits/ http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/02/small-businesses-targeted-by-ada-lawsuits/ Wtf we love predatory lawsuits now Its more fun to make republicans literally satan though. I need to do more research on this particular bill but you can very easily make something look bad that isnt. For example if you try to ban ALL types of pornography and name the bill saving childrens lives act its easy to than accuse someone of being against saving childrens lives. --- I'm Mary Poppins y'all. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:896151154] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pitlord_Special posted...</cite> <quote>You guys realize theres an established practice of certain lawyers or disabled folks who will go around and troll businesses looking for minor or obscure ADA violations and sue them for a payout. Few articles from just the last year explaining the problem https://www.dailynews.com/2017/05/24/ada-lawsuit-abuse-remains-a-problem/ https://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/23/disability-violation-lawsuits/ http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/02/small-businesses-targeted-by-ada-lawsuits/ Wtf we love predatory lawsuits now</quote> Its more fun to make republicans literally satan though. I need to do more research on this particular bill but you can very easily make something look bad that isnt. For example if you try to ban ALL types of pornography and name the bill saving childrens lives act its easy to than accuse someone of being against saving childrens lives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 02/15/18 4:29:47 PM #28:	At this point it seems that the GOP are legit evil. (and the 13 dems how voted with them) --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:896151322] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>At this point it seems that the GOP are legit evil. (and the 13 dems how voted with them)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 02/15/18 4:30:52 PM #29:	iClockwork posted... LordRazziel posted... Why send an ambulance to people in a medical emergency? They don't do that for people that aren't in a medical emergency! If all people have access to the ambulance when they have an emergency than it is equal. If all people have access to support if they become disabled, then it is equal. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:896151385] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>Why send an ambulance to people in a medical emergency? They don't do that for people that aren't in a medical emergency! </quote> If all people have access to the ambulance when they have an emergency than it is equal.</quote> If all people have access to support if they become disabled, then it is equal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 02/15/18 4:33:11 PM #30:	Ehhh, there have been several instances of misuse, I'm not really sympathetic at this point. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:896151523] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>Ehhh, there have been several instances of misuse, I'm not really sympathetic at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/15/18 4:37:52 PM #31:	pegusus123456 posted... iClockwork posted... LordRazziel posted... Why send an ambulance to people in a medical emergency? They don't do that for people that aren't in a medical emergency! If all people have access to the ambulance when they have an emergency than it is equal. If all people have access to support if they become disabled, then it is equal. It's circumstantial. If you need the help, you receive it. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896151846] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>Why send an ambulance to people in a medical emergency? They don't do that for people that aren't in a medical emergency! </quote> If all people have access to the ambulance when they have an emergency than it is equal.</quote> If all people have access to support if they become disabled, then it is equal.</quote> It's circumstantial. If you need the help, you receive it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 02/15/18 4:45:36 PM #32:	I have personally prosecuted a lawyer who misused the law. Courts are not sympathetic towards people who do this, they don't get anywhere. A guy who did this in Austin can't even practice in federal courts in the area anymore because he pissed people off so badly. The law does not need to be changed because of a few bad apples. There are still so many locations and businesses that don't comply with the law as it is. The law is already difficult to be enforced, it does not need to be weakened. The vast majority of people who make ADA claims already give businesses notice and already wait an inordinate amount of time to have access to basic public accommodations. This law was passed in 19 goddamn 90, people have had enough time to hear about it and comply. --- http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:896152331] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>I have personally prosecuted a lawyer who misused the law. Courts are not sympathetic towards people who do this, they don't get anywhere. A guy who did this in Austin can't even practice in federal courts in the area anymore because he pissed people off so badly. The law does not need to be changed because of a few bad apples. There are still so many locations and businesses that don't comply with the law as it is. The law is already difficult to be enforced, it does not need to be weakened. The vast majority of people who make ADA claims already give businesses notice and already wait an inordinate amount of time to have access to basic public accommodations. This law was passed in 19 goddamn 90, people have had enough time to hear about it and comply.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lightwarrior78 02/15/18 4:47:55 PM #33:	Even without abuse, one can understand the burden on business to be ready for any disability that may come in at any given time rather than being allowed to focus on those that are a more regular occurrence for their location and clientele. I'm disabled and I don't see this as evil. A bit self serving and inconvenient for me at times, sure, but not evil. --- http://backloggery.com/reddthesock <cite>lightwarrior78 posted [p:896152467] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>Even without abuse, one can understand the burden on business to be ready for any disability that may come in at any given time rather than being allowed to focus on those that are a more regular occurrence for their location and clientele. I'm disabled and I don't see this as evil. A bit self serving and inconvenient for me at times, sure, but not evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/15/18 4:50:03 PM #34:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Ehhh, there have been several instances of misuse, I'm not really sympathetic at this point. What about misuse of firearms? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896152584] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Ehhh, there have been several instances of misuse, I'm not really sympathetic at this point.</quote> What about misuse of firearms?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 02/15/18 4:52:26 PM #35:	Firearms are a right. The ADA is protections that take precedence over the rights of others. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:896152724] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>Firearms are a right. The ADA is protections that take precedence over the rights of others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/15/18 4:52:42 PM #36:	Interesting. 1990 was GHW Bush. Why did the Republicans suddenly change their minds? --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896152740] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>Interesting. 1990 was GHW Bush. Why did the Republicans suddenly change their minds?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 02/15/18 4:54:29 PM #37:	Paper_Okami posted... CrimsonRage posted... of course they are Conservative politics is scum --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:896152834] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>of course they are</quote></quote> Conservative politics is scum</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ben_Ruggiero 02/15/18 4:57:09 PM #38:	CrimsonRage posted... Antifar posted... halomonkey1_3_5 posted... is there a legitimate argument in favor of this or Shopping mall lobbyists https://twitter.com/Lollardfish/status/964195481307017217 lol aren't shopping malls going extinct? good riddance This. Who needs jobs --- A wiseguy never pays for his drinks <cite>Ben_Ruggiero posted [p:896152976] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted...</cite> <quote>is there a legitimate argument in favor of this or</quote> Shopping mall lobbyists https://twitter.com/Lollardfish/status/964195481307017217</quote> lol aren't shopping malls going extinct? good riddance</quote> This. Who needs jobs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/15/18 4:57:38 PM #39:	Tyranthraxus posted... Interesting. 1990 was GHW Bush. Why did the Republicans suddenly change their minds? You can't just treat republicans as though they are all of the same mind. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896153017] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Interesting. 1990 was GHW Bush. Why did the Republicans suddenly change their minds?</quote> You can't just treat republicans as though they are all of the same mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 02/15/18 5:06:20 PM #40:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Firearms are a right. The ADA is protections that take precedence over the rights of others. I'd consider the ADA far more important of a right than the right to bear arms. The ADA allows millions of people to full participate in society and protects them from abuse and discrimination. The second amendment gives people access to specific, particularly effective tools, but it is not the right to self defense itself or the right to overthrow the govt etc. --- http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:896153543] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Firearms are a right. The ADA is protections that take precedence over the rights of others.</quote> I'd consider the ADA far more important of a right than the right to bear arms. The ADA allows millions of people to full participate in society and protects them from abuse and discrimination. The second amendment gives people access to specific, particularly effective tools, but it is not the right to self defense itself or the right to overthrow the govt etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/15/18 5:09:57 PM #41:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Firearms are a right. The ADA is protections that take precedence over the rights of others. How so? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896153769] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Firearms are a right. The ADA is protections that take precedence over the rights of others.</quote> How so?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 02/15/18 5:15:11 PM #42:	ADA is the only thing that allowed me to get through school really. It's not that people with special needs are somehow exempt from getting their work done in the present day, just that there are certain circumstances which are incurable and can't be negotiated with. Hell, my ultra right grandma is in favor of the ADA. It's like the GOP just wants to make political assassins out of US citizens. Dumb fucks. This shit better not pass. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:896154067] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>ADA is the only thing that allowed me to get through school really. It's not that people with special needs are somehow exempt from getting their work done in the present day, just that there are certain circumstances which are incurable and can't be negotiated with. Hell, my ultra right grandma is in favor of the ADA. It's like the GOP just wants to make political assassins out of US citizens. Dumb fucks. This shit better not pass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 02/15/18 5:18:54 PM #43:	lightwarrior78 posted... one can understand the burden on business to be ready for any disability that may come in at any given time rather than being allowed to focus on those that are a more regular occurrence for their location and clientele. Wrong. A disability is not legally a disability until the proper paperwork is done, and absolutely no accommodations need to be made until a patient and doctor agree upon a treatment plan and circumstances in work or school that can't be worked a round within normal constraints, which is then processed by the appropriate departments at work or school. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:896154291] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>lightwarrior78 posted...</cite> <quote>one can understand the burden on business to be ready for any disability that may come in at any given time rather than being allowed to focus on those that are a more regular occurrence for their location and clientele.</quote> Wrong. A disability is not legally a disability until the proper paperwork is done, and absolutely no accommodations need to be made until a patient and doctor agree upon a treatment plan and circumstances in work or school that can't be worked a round within normal constraints, which is then processed by the appropriate departments at work or school.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/15/18 5:33:57 PM #44:	Actual text of bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/620/text Antifar posted... The bill creates a new notice and cure requirement in the Americans with Disabilities Act, which would force people with disabilities to provide businesses with written notice of access barriers that need to be fixed, then wait for months to see if substantial progress has been made in removing them. This effectively exempts businesses from complying with their obligations under the ADA and proactively ensuring that people with disabilities have access to places of public accommodation. What's so "bad" about that, instead of just having a process server suddenly show up with a multimillion dollar lawsuit? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:896155197] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>Actual text of bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/620/text <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><quote>The bill creates a new notice and cure requirement in the Americans with Disabilities Act, which would force people with disabilities to provide businesses with written notice of access barriers that need to be fixed, then wait for months to see if substantial progress has been made in removing them. This effectively exempts businesses from complying with their obligations under the ADA and proactively ensuring that people with disabilities have access to places of public accommodation.</quote></quote> What's so "bad" about that, instead of just having a process server suddenly show up with a multimillion dollar lawsuit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 02/15/18 5:38:53 PM #45:	I just said it outright. Do you need it put in smaller words? --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:896155496] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote>I just said it outright. Do you need it put in smaller words?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JustMonika 02/15/18 5:40:18 PM #46:	CrimsonRage posted... of course they are And of course people on CE will support them. --- https://i.imgtc.com/qJzeN65.png <cite>JustMonika posted [p:896155574] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>of course they are</quote> And of course people on CE will support them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 02/15/18 6:11:18 PM #47:	Questionmarktarius posted... Actual text of bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/620/text Antifar posted... The bill creates a new notice and cure requirement in the Americans with Disabilities Act, which would force people with disabilities to provide businesses with written notice of access barriers that need to be fixed, then wait for months to see if substantial progress has been made in removing them. This effectively exempts businesses from complying with their obligations under the ADA and proactively ensuring that people with disabilities have access to places of public accommodation. What's so "bad" about that, instead of just having a process server suddenly show up with a multimillion dollar lawsuit? Because that completely neuters the original intent of the ADA. It's not just a revision, it changes the whole framework and intent of the law. Instead of businesses having the proactive duty to make sure their businesses are accessible, people would have to be denied access and then wait months while not having access to see if the business decided to fix something that they've had since 1990 to fix, and THEN they get the right to begin a lawsuit. All the while, they don't have access to the business and its services. --- http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:896157232] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Actual text of bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/620/text <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><quote>The bill creates a new notice and cure requirement in the Americans with Disabilities Act, which would force people with disabilities to provide businesses with written notice of access barriers that need to be fixed, then wait for months to see if substantial progress has been made in removing them. This effectively exempts businesses from complying with their obligations under the ADA and proactively ensuring that people with disabilities have access to places of public accommodation.</quote></quote> What's so "bad" about that, instead of just having a process server suddenly show up with a multimillion dollar lawsuit?</quote> Because that completely neuters the original intent of the ADA. It's not just a revision, it changes the whole framework and intent of the law. Instead of businesses having the proactive duty to make sure their businesses are accessible, people would have to be denied access and then wait months while not having access to see if the business decided to fix something that they've had since 1990 to fix, and THEN they get the right to begin a lawsuit. All the while, they don't have access to the business and its services.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 02/15/18 6:27:00 PM #49:	iClockwork posted... hockeybub89 posted... iClockwork posted... I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally That is kind of the point of the ADA Then why do they get special laws written Do you ever not troll? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:896158063] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>I thought that everyone is suppose to be treated equally</quote> That is kind of the point of the ADA</quote> Then why do they get special laws written </quote> Do you ever not troll?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest 02/15/18 6:29:16 PM #50:	lightwarrior78 posted... Even without abuse, one can understand the burden on business to be ready for any disability that may come in at any given time rather than being allowed to focus on those that are a more regular occurrence for their location and clientele. I'm disabled and I don't see this as evil. A bit self serving and inconvenient for me at times, sure, but not evil. I remember in Penn & Teller's Bullshit, they put someone in an iron lung and got him to go to different places (in L.A., I think. Could be wrong). Not a lot were accessible to him. --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. <cite>gmanthebest posted [p:896158178] in Congress i... [t:76322557]...</cite> <quote><cite>lightwarrior78 posted...</cite> <quote>Even without abuse, one can understand the burden on business to be ready for any disability that may come in at any given time rather than being allowed to focus on those that are a more regular occurrence for their location and clientele. I'm disabled and I don't see this as evil. A bit self serving and inconvenient for me at times, sure, but not evil.</quote> I remember in Penn & Teller's Bullshit, they put someone in an iron lung and got him to go to different places (in L.A., I think. Could be wrong). Not a lot were accessible to him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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