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LordRazziel
02/15/18 1:59:00 PM
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Is white supremacy an issue in the United States


Is white supremacy an issue in the United States
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MorbidFaithless
02/16/18 12:52:59 AM
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Obviously.
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chill02
02/16/18 12:54:09 AM
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aye
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metralo
02/16/18 12:54:10 AM
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It is becoming an issue and is growing rapidly.
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Fin_Dawg_004
02/16/18 12:54:18 AM
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yep.
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prince_leo
02/16/18 12:54:39 AM
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it appears to be a larger issue than I thought it was when I was growing up, yeah
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pres_madagascar
02/16/18 12:54:39 AM
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metralo posted...
It is becoming an issue and is growing rapidly.

Trump gave them confidence to be in the open.
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Ben111
02/16/18 12:55:09 AM
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Not really. They really arent doing any harm as pretty much everyone ignores them
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Pepys Monster
02/16/18 12:56:07 AM
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SJWs ostracized white people just for being white. So big surprise, a marginalized group began banding together.
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Zeeak4444
02/16/18 12:57:32 AM
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Pepys Monster posted...
SJWs ostracized white people just for being white. So big surprise, a marginalized group began banding together.


I only hear this from people who are sympathetic to white supremacist.
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Solid Snake07
02/16/18 12:58:27 AM
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yeah, not really a prevalent one. But a minor one
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Bishop9800
02/16/18 12:58:32 AM
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Pepys Monster posted...
SJWs ostracized white people just for being white. So big surprise, a marginalized group began banding together.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

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boxington
02/16/18 12:58:53 AM
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Pepys Monster posted...
SJWs ostracized white people just for being white. So big surprise, a marginalized group began banding together.

people say stuff like this, but don't acknowledge how other groups were/are marginalized
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LordRazziel
02/16/18 12:59:09 AM
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Pepys Monster posted...
SJWs ostracized white people just for being white. So big surprise, a marginalized group began banding together.

*Ricky Ricardo laugh*
Oh, Pepsy
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Master_Bass
02/16/18 12:59:50 AM
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Yes, the FBI was even concerned enough in 2006 to draft a memo warning us about the consequences of them infiltrating law enforcement.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement
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Ben111
02/16/18 1:00:19 AM
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boxington posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
SJWs ostracized white people just for being white. So big surprise, a marginalized group began banding together.

people say stuff like this, but don't acknowledge how other groups were/are marginalized


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Vita_Aeterna
02/16/18 1:03:41 AM
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White supremacy has been in the DNA of Americans more-so than any other group, and that's a damn fact.
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Zeus
02/16/18 1:05:18 AM
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LordRazziel posted...
Is white supremacy an issue in the United States


No, unless you're talking about "issue" in the most trivial sense of the word like people wearing socks with sandals are an issue.
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C_Pain
02/16/18 1:06:19 AM
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I guess.. there's always gonna be fringe alt right groups. As long as they aren't pushing policies/being violence, there's nothing you can do.
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Ben111
02/16/18 1:07:35 AM
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@Vita_Aeterna posted...
White supremacy has been in the DNA of Americans more-so than any other group, and that's a damn fact.

No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president, Ophra would never be one of the most popular people on tv, and football/basketball wouldnt be so popular.
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Smogal
02/16/18 1:08:43 AM
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Pepys Monster posted...
SJWs ostracized white people just for being white. So big surprise, a marginalized group began banding together.


So what you're telling me is that these people are flimsy as fuck...?

If people are basing their racism off of what some vocal minority said on the internet, then these people are probably mentally unhealthy in more ways than one.
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southcoast09
02/16/18 1:08:55 AM
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Racism, in general, is a problem. Its not one group responsible, no matter which way you look at it. So, yes it is a problem, but only one of many.

The media cant show us a sports game without some kind of racial message. Its everywhere and tension flares the more its harped upon.
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Esrac
02/16/18 1:08:56 AM
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LordRazziel posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
SJWs ostracized white people just for being white. So big surprise, a marginalized group began banding together.

*Ricky Ricardo laugh*
Oh, Pepsy


Eh...I don't know that I'd agree that white people are generally a marginalized group in the US.

However, if you have vocal activists and media that routinely shit on a group, it shouldn't be a surprise when some individuals within that group get pushed into unsavory associations.

I mean, isn't that how radicalism often works?
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metralo
02/16/18 1:09:11 AM
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Ben111 posted...
football/basketball wouldnt be so popular.


well this one is untrue for sure. tons and tons of racists love sports.
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LordRazziel
02/16/18 1:11:38 AM
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Esrac posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
SJWs ostracized white people just for being white. So big surprise, a marginalized group began banding together.

*Ricky Ricardo laugh*
Oh, Pepsy


Eh...I don't know that I'd agree that white people are generally a marginalized group in the US.

However, if you have vocal activists and media that routinely shit on a group, it shouldn't be a surprise when some individuals within that group get pushed into unsavory associations.

I mean, isn't that how radicalism often works?

So when the KKK was lynching black people, their radicalism was fueled by the marginalization of white people?
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Vita_Aeterna
02/16/18 1:13:06 AM
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Ben111 posted...
@Vita_Aeterna posted...
White supremacy has been in the DNA of Americans more-so than any other group, and that's a damn fact.

No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president, Ophra would never be one of the most popular people on tv, and football/basketball wouldnt be so popular.

That has nothing to with my statement.

When I say DNA, I don't mean the literal, but rather figurative DNA, a social, cultural and political history of white supremacy since the country's inception.
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andel
02/16/18 1:16:24 AM
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Vita_Aeterna posted...
Ben111 posted...
@Vita_Aeterna posted...
White supremacy has been in the DNA of Americans more-so than any other group, and that's a damn fact.

No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president, Ophra would never be one of the most popular people on tv, and football/basketball wouldnt be so popular.

That has nothing to with my statement.

When I say DNA, I don't mean the literal, but rather figurative DNA, a social, cultural and political history of white supremacy since the country's inception.


well definitely not more so than a country like germany that had the entire government modeled around white supremacy and murdering non white people.

as for the topic title, yes, white supremacy is a problem
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GigaSPX
02/16/18 1:16:37 AM
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Ben111 posted...
Not really. They really arent doing any harm as pretty much everyone ignores them

Did the man who drove his car through the crowd of peaceful anti-racist protestors last year is really of no harm? Wtf
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Ben111
02/16/18 1:23:01 AM
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Vita_Aeterna posted...
Ben111 posted...
@Vita_Aeterna posted...
White supremacy has been in the DNA of Americans more-so than any other group, and that's a damn fact.

No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president, Ophra would never be one of the most popular people on tv, and football/basketball wouldnt be so popular.

That has nothing to with my statement.

When I say DNA, I don't mean the literal, but rather figurative DNA, a social, cultural and political history of white supremacy since the country's inception.

The banning of slavery and affirmative action prove you wrong
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Vita_Aeterna
02/16/18 1:26:48 AM
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andel posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
Ben111 posted...
@Vita_Aeterna posted...
White supremacy has been in the DNA of Americans more-so than any other group, and that's a damn fact.

No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president, Ophra would never be one of the most popular people on tv, and football/basketball wouldnt be so popular.

That has nothing to with my statement.

When I say DNA, I don't mean the literal, but rather figurative DNA, a social, cultural and political history of white supremacy since the country's inception.


well definitely not more so than a country like germany that had the entire government modeled around white supremacy and murdering non white people.

as for the topic title, yes, white supremacy is a problem

That was one little instance of white supremacy that blew the hell out of proportion due to various circumstances and causes that is too complex to discuss right now. In fact, Germany was more accepting of Jews in the latter half of the 19th century than Russians. Other than that the United States was born out of the idea that all men should be free, specifically ALL WHITE MEN: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness", but this idea did not extent to African-Americans as we all know. It took the U.S 32 more years to abolish slavery when the U.K did it in 1833. An entire war was fought to keep the Southern states to unite with the North because the South wanted to allow and expand slavery, and keep a balance of power of Southern, slave-owning states. It took up until the 1960s for Civil Rights movement to end segregation and other forms of institutionalized racism. Yeah the U.S has a deeper history of white supremacy, and racism more than any other.

Sure they've come a long ways from that birth, thanks to great, progressive men and various events that helped push these old and tired racist beliefs out.
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Sayoria
02/16/18 1:29:22 AM
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David Duke is so happy right now.
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Kineth
02/16/18 1:30:20 AM
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@Ben111 posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
Ben111 posted...
@ Vita_Aeterna posted...
White supremacy has been in the DNA of Americans more-so than any other group, and that's a damn fact.

No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president, Ophra would never be one of the most popular people on tv, and football/basketball wouldnt be so popular.

That has nothing to with my statement.

When I say DNA, I don't mean the literal, but rather figurative DNA, a social, cultural and political history of white supremacy since the country's inception.

The banning of slavery and affirmative action prove you wrong


The banning of slavery was followed by Jim Crow, the start of the KKK and "separate, but equal". Affirmative Action benefits white women more than any other group.
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ThanksUglyGod
02/16/18 1:31:47 AM
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Ben111 posted...
No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president,

White supremacy is the reason we went from Obama to Trump
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Vita_Aeterna
02/16/18 1:35:47 AM
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Kineth posted...
@Ben111 posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
Ben111 posted...
@ Vita_Aeterna posted...
White supremacy has been in the DNA of Americans more-so than any other group, and that's a damn fact.

No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president, Ophra would never be one of the most popular people on tv, and football/basketball wouldnt be so popular.

That has nothing to with my statement.

When I say DNA, I don't mean the literal, but rather figurative DNA, a social, cultural and political history of white supremacy since the country's inception.

The banning of slavery and affirmative action prove you wrong


The banning of slavery was followed by Jim Crow and the start of the KKK. Affirmative Action benefits white women more than any other group.

The fact that they had to ban slavery by fighting a war in itself tells you enough. Banning slavery never curbed white supremacy, it lives on today, but to a much, much lesser extent thanks to the events that unfolded in the 60s.
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Ben111
02/16/18 1:36:41 AM
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@ThanksUglyGod posted...
Ben111 posted...
No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president,

White supremacy is the reason we went from Obama to Trump

Lol if you actually believe this. Trump won because Hillary was a terrible candidate that couldnt be trusted
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BlackHorse6969
02/16/18 1:39:30 AM
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White supremacy is an issue in any country where the founders were white. Black supremacy is an issue in any country where the founders were black
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Dash_Harber
02/16/18 1:39:37 AM
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It obviously is, and it's ridiculous that they are among the few countries in the world where this is still a serious issue.
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ThanksUglyGod
02/16/18 1:40:16 AM
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Ben111 posted...
@ThanksUglyGod posted...
Ben111 posted...
No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president,

White supremacy is the reason we went from Obama to Trump

Lol if you actually believe this. Trump won because Hillary was a terrible candidate that couldnt be trusted

Spoken like a true white supremacist ;)
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Kineth
02/16/18 1:40:21 AM
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@Ben111 posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Ben111 posted...
No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president,

White supremacy is the reason we went from Obama to Trump

Lol if you actually believe this. Trump won because Hillary was a terrible candidate that couldnt be trusted


He didn't win for just one reason and both reasons presented definitely factored into his win. His campaign rhetoric specifically supports UglyGod's assertion.
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Ben111
02/16/18 1:42:42 AM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
Ben111 posted...
@ThanksUglyGod posted...
Ben111 posted...
No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president,

White supremacy is the reason we went from Obama to Trump

Lol if you actually believe this. Trump won because Hillary was a terrible candidate that couldnt be trusted

Spoken like a true white supremacist ;)

My goodness Liberalism really is a cancer. I am latino btw
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ThanksUglyGod
02/16/18 1:43:57 AM
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Ben111 posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Ben111 posted...
@ThanksUglyGod posted...
Ben111 posted...
No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president,

White supremacy is the reason we went from Obama to Trump

Lol if you actually believe this. Trump won because Hillary was a terrible candidate that couldnt be trusted

Spoken like a true white supremacist ;)

My goodness Liberalism really is a cancer. I am latino btw

I know what I said ;)
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bevan306
02/16/18 1:44:23 AM
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apparently yes, it seems to be getting worse. It's too attractive for angry, emotionally stunted young white men
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Ben111
02/16/18 1:44:55 AM
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Kineth posted...
@Ben111 posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Ben111 posted...
No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president,

White supremacy is the reason we went from Obama to Trump

Lol if you actually believe this. Trump won because Hillary was a terrible candidate that couldnt be trusted


He didn't win for just one reason and both reasons presented definitely factored into his win. His campaign rhetoric specifically supports UglyGod's assertion.

Like?
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ThanksUglyGod
02/16/18 1:47:22 AM
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Ben111 posted...
Kineth posted...
@Ben111 posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Ben111 posted...
No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president,

White supremacy is the reason we went from Obama to Trump

Lol if you actually believe this. Trump won because Hillary was a terrible candidate that couldnt be trusted


He didn't win for just one reason and both reasons presented definitely factored into his win. His campaign rhetoric specifically supports UglyGod's assertion.

Like?

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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/the-first-white-president-ta-nehisi-coates/537909/
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Esrac
02/16/18 1:48:40 AM
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LordRazziel posted...
Esrac posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
SJWs ostracized white people just for being white. So big surprise, a marginalized group began banding together.

*Ricky Ricardo laugh*
Oh, Pepsy


Eh...I don't know that I'd agree that white people are generally a marginalized group in the US.

However, if you have vocal activists and media that routinely shit on a group, it shouldn't be a surprise when some individuals within that group get pushed into unsavory associations.

I mean, isn't that how radicalism often works?

So when the KKK was lynching black people, their radicalism was fueled by the marginalization of white people?


Did you miss the part where I said I wouldn't agree about whites being a marginalized group in the US? Don't quote me if you won't read what I said.

Regardless...

You don't think there could be different influencing factors for different contexts? That maybe when white supremacy was the status quo there would be different reasons for their violence (probably wanting to prevent colored people from supplanting them as the dominant demographic) than when it's publicly unacceptable but is seeing cells of resurgence?

You don't think that vilification of white people being relatively acceptable behavior in public discourse could push vulnerable whites (usually males) into unsavory, but apparently sympathetic groups? Most seem to agree that vilification of other demographics, like Muslims, can contribute to radicalization. I don't see it being different for the radicalization for young white men.
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Kineth
02/16/18 1:50:04 AM
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Ben111 posted...
Kineth posted...
@Ben111 posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Ben111 posted...
No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president,

White supremacy is the reason we went from Obama to Trump

Lol if you actually believe this. Trump won because Hillary was a terrible candidate that couldnt be trusted


He didn't win for just one reason and both reasons presented definitely factored into his win. His campaign rhetoric specifically supports UglyGod's assertion.

Like?


Opening up his campaign by calling illegal immigrants from Mexico "a bunch of murderers and rapists", calling for a travel ban for Muslim countries and proposing building a wall to keep out illegal immigrants south of the border.

During his presidency, there's been the repeated attempts at getting those travel bans, the "shithole countries" statement, Sean Spicer, former White House Press Secretary, saying that Hitler never used chemicals on his own people while justifying that air strike in Syria, "good people on both sides", "sons of bitches", having Bannon in his staff and having Mike Pence as his VP and making it a goal to erase all of Obama's accomplishments/plans, whether or not if they were good or bad.

Oh and his promise to "find the real birth certificate".
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Dash_Harber
02/16/18 1:50:15 AM
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Esrac posted...
sympathetic groups


I would say that any possible sympathy went out the window about 80 or 90 years ago when they killed 17 million people in the name of their ideology.
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Esrac
02/16/18 1:52:26 AM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
Ben111 posted...
No it isnt. If that was a fact then Obama would never of been president,

White supremacy is the reason we went from Obama to Trump


I know Trump had the vaunted white supremacist vote on lockdown, but if it were that large a factor, I don't think Obama would've had a second term. Probably not even a first term.

I still think Trump won less because he was a great candidate than because the Democrats just totally dropped the ball. What's the phrase? Grasp defeat from the jaws of victory?
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