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gbpxl
02/15/18 1:16:07 PM
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- universal background check? nope, he passed them

- ban assault rifles? still would've happened- Columbine didn't involve an AR-15. less people might be dead though

- improve mental health? what's the point if someone doesn't want to be seen?

- require armed guns in front of schools? sure except there's been cases where the armed guns get shot and killed too. so put armed guards in front of armed guards? then they get shot? where do you get the money?

- require guns to have smart technology? this assfucker could've killed the same amount of people using a "smart gun"

- a gun ban? well this guy bought his gun within the last year. if a gun ban had been in effect he wouldn't have been able to buy one. he could have stolen it from someone who still had a gun, or stolen it from a police officer or soldier, but that would've been much more difficult. he could use a bomb but there again, much harder to do that than using a gun to kill people

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APM
02/15/18 1:16:35 PM
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Arm all teachers
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rabbi_baby
02/15/18 1:18:51 PM
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If we truly want to control the population.

We need alex jones style brain waves.

That or explosive implants that go off when someone snaps.
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Kazi1212
02/15/18 1:19:23 PM
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Arm the kids
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Irony
02/15/18 1:19:54 PM
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Arm the lunch ladies
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ThyCorndog
02/15/18 1:20:36 PM
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lilORANG
02/15/18 1:21:06 PM
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ya know it's hard to say but if we passed comprehensive gun reform decades ago like we should have I'm sure we would have seen a butterfly effect where crimes like this are less likely to occur.

But no, passing a law on Monday would not have stopped this particular tragedy
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Questionmarktarius
02/15/18 1:22:37 PM
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Not abandoning nuthouses in the 60s though the 80s.
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gbpxl
02/15/18 1:23:01 PM
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APM posted...
Arm all teachers

good idea, that way a student wouldn't have to go through the trouble of buying one or stealing it from their friend's dad, they can just pull it out of the teacher's desk.
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medzz
02/15/18 1:24:43 PM
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Make murder illegal
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scorpion41
02/15/18 1:25:14 PM
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gbpxl posted...
APM posted...
Arm all teachers

good idea, that way a student wouldn't have to go through the trouble of buying one or stealing it from their friend's dad, they can just pull it out of the teacher's desk.


Why wouldnt it be on the teachers person?
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gbpxl
02/15/18 1:27:05 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Not abandoning nuthouses in the 60s though the 80s.

you're on to something there. there are a lot of abandoned insane asylums throughout the U.S. I guess everyone stopped being crazy, so they didnt need them anymore?
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prettyprincess
02/15/18 1:27:28 PM
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can't take any action because I ignored the psychological effect of deterrents and made it happen in my hypothetical anyway
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gbpxl
02/15/18 1:27:32 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
gbpxl posted...
APM posted...
Arm all teachers

good idea, that way a student wouldn't have to go through the trouble of buying one or stealing it from their friend's dad, they can just pull it out of the teacher's desk.


Why wouldnt it be on the teachers person?

carelessness
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TheGrindery
02/15/18 1:27:40 PM
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Mass shootings have always been a possibility but they're only getting big now.

This is a society thing. Not a gun or law thing. Demeanors gotta change.
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Irony
02/15/18 1:27:52 PM
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gbpxl posted...
APM posted...
Arm all teachers

good idea, that way a student wouldn't have to go through the trouble of buying one or stealing it from their friend's dad, they can just pull it out of the teacher's desk.

Why wouldn't it be on their back or in a holster depending on if it's an assault rifle or a .44 magnum
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Nomadic View
02/15/18 1:28:10 PM
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A complete dissolution of privacy laws and the revocation of the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment.
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gbpxl
02/15/18 1:28:21 PM
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medzz posted...
Make murder illegal

make everything legal, since people ignore laws anyways right?
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REMercsChamp
02/15/18 1:28:37 PM
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You can't stop these loons. I know it's a dreadful feeling to know it can't really be prevented, but it's true. What's stopping some random guy from just walking into whatever public place you happen to be in and open firing?
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Nomadic View
02/15/18 1:33:56 PM
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gbpxl posted...
medzz posted...
Make murder illegal

make everything legal, since people ignore laws anyways right?


Someone that is willing to ignore murder laws are absolutely going to ignore gun regulation laws. And the only purpose of gun regulation laws are to curtail murder laws.

Someone that is willing to ignore speeding laws is still going to be unlikely to ignore robbery laws.

Laws are important, but there has to be some reasoning to believe that a person will subjectively follow it. If someone is willing to commit the worst crime our society recognizes, no other law is going to be a barrier to stop that behavior. Whats he going to do? Well, I was going to go on a murdering rampage, but that $50 fine is really making me reevaluate that plan.
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Nomadic View
02/15/18 1:35:06 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
You can't stop these loons. I know it's a dreadful feeling to know it can't really be prevented, but it's true. What's stopping some random guy from just walking into whatever public place you happen to be in and open firing?


My gun.
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shiby with it
02/15/18 1:38:58 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
You can't stop these loons. I know it's a dreadful feeling to know it can't really be prevented, but it's true. What's stopping some random guy from just walking into whatever public place you happen to be in and open firing?


My gun.

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HBOSS
02/15/18 1:40:06 PM
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shiby with it posted...
Nomadic View posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
You can't stop these loons. I know it's a dreadful feeling to know it can't really be prevented, but it's true. What's stopping some random guy from just walking into whatever public place you happen to be in and open firing?


My gun.

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gbpxl
02/15/18 1:52:58 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
You can't stop these loons. I know it's a dreadful feeling to know it can't really be prevented, but it's true. What's stopping some random guy from just walking into whatever public place you happen to be in and open firing?

maybe not allowing him to buy the gun in the first place?
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gbpxl
02/15/18 1:54:15 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
gbpxl posted...
medzz posted...
Make murder illegal

make everything legal, since people ignore laws anyways right?


Someone that is willing to ignore murder laws are absolutely going to ignore gun regulation laws. And the only purpose of gun regulation laws are to curtail murder laws.

Someone that is willing to ignore speeding laws is still going to be unlikely to ignore robbery laws.

Laws are important, but there has to be some reasoning to believe that a person will subjectively follow it. If someone is willing to commit the worst crime our society recognizes, no other law is going to be a barrier to stop that behavior. Whats he going to do? Well, I was going to go on a murdering rampage, but that $50 fine is really making me reevaluate that plan.
a gun dealer will follow a gun ban if he wants to not go to prison
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Irony
02/15/18 2:01:00 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
You can't stop these loons. I know it's a dreadful feeling to know it can't really be prevented, but it's true. What's stopping some random guy from just walking into whatever public place you happen to be in and open firing?

My Krav Maga
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anth0ny
02/15/18 2:08:15 PM
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more guns

less gun regulation policies

MAGASM

Make America Great Again SOME MORE
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WaffIeElite
02/15/18 2:08:51 PM
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Banning conservatives would drastically reduce these nutjob attacks.
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medzz
02/15/18 2:09:29 PM
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Is it illegal to shoot up a high school?
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Rexdragon125
02/15/18 2:09:38 PM
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Murder is already illegal, not sure what else you can do
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Metro2
02/15/18 2:10:25 PM
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improve mental health? what's the point if someone doesn't want to be seen?


Remove the stigma surrounding mental illness. And who says everyone doesn't want to be seen? Encourage and educate people on the benefits.
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KainWind
02/15/18 2:12:09 PM
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Moats and a drawbridge for all schools with turrets stationed around the school.
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ManBeast462
02/15/18 2:12:43 PM
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Gun Free Zones
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Mal_Fet
02/15/18 2:14:33 PM
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How about imprisoning psychos who threaten to hurt people like the shooter did for years before this happened

Since when was that option off the table
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frozenshock
02/15/18 2:14:43 PM
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I think there's a big cultural shift that needs to happen

There is a huge problem, and it's beyond anything that a simple law change can shift
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Alexanaxela
02/15/18 2:16:05 PM
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"no way to prevent this'', says the only nation where this happens regularly
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GrAyFoX312k
02/15/18 2:19:30 PM
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Devaluing guns. Gun sales skyrocket whenever there's a mass shooting. Why would sociopathic business practices want to end something that generates so much revenue and free advertising at the low cost of human lives. Children's lives.

Teach the society that guns aren't cool and it'll be easier to take them away. Sales drop so pro gun businesses can't support their politicians when an anti gun business makes them an offer.
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GrAyFoX312k
02/15/18 2:21:09 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
How about imprisoning psychos who threaten to hurt people like the shooter did for years before this happened

Since when was that option off the table

Your sig kind of explains this..
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3deep5u
02/15/18 2:21:33 PM
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gbpxl posted...
- require guns to have smart technology? this assfucker could've killed the same amount of people using a "smart gun"

No, he really couldn't have. An AI could've easily seen that he was shooting people and not targets or deer and locked the gun
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Mal_Fet
02/15/18 2:21:58 PM
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GrAyFoX312k posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
How about imprisoning psychos who threaten to hurt people like the shooter did for years before this happened

Since when was that option off the table

Your sig kind of explains this..

You don't have a right to threaten people, actually.
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Mal_Fet
02/15/18 2:22:38 PM
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3deep5u posted...
gbpxl posted...
- require guns to have smart technology? this assfucker could've killed the same amount of people using a "smart gun"

No, he really couldn't have. An AI could've easily seen that he was shooting people and not targets or deer and locked the gun

Do you.....even know what a smart gun is
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darkjedilink
02/15/18 2:22:53 PM
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Alexanaxela posted...
"no way to prevent this'', says the only nation where this happens regularly

There are ways, if you don't want to follow the Constitution.
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ThePrinceFish
02/15/18 2:23:28 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
"no way to prevent this'', says the only nation where this happens regularly

There are ways, if you don't want to follow the Constitution.

They don't.
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SK8T3R215
02/15/18 2:24:12 PM
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Ban teenagers.
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darkjedilink
02/15/18 2:24:26 PM
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GrAyFoX312k posted...
Devaluing guns. Gun sales skyrocket whenever there's a mass shooting. Why would sociopathic business practices want to end something that generates so much revenue and free advertising at the low cost of human lives. Children's lives.

Teach the society that guns aren't cool and it'll be easier to take them away. Sales drop so pro gun businesses can't support their politicians when an anti gun business makes them an offer.

It's literally illegal to disarm American citizens en masse.
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3deep5u
02/15/18 2:24:47 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Do you.....even know what a smart gun is

Smart phones don't necessarily have AI either, but more and more ship with AI assistants like Siri and Alexa. AI on a "smart gun" isn't so far off.
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Sayoria
02/15/18 2:25:30 PM
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Irony posted...
Arm the lunch ladies


Pasta or pizza, baby!
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GrAyFoX312k
02/15/18 2:25:52 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
GrAyFoX312k posted...
Devaluing guns. Gun sales skyrocket whenever there's a mass shooting. Why would sociopathic business practices want to end something that generates so much revenue and free advertising at the low cost of human lives. Children's lives.

Teach the society that guns aren't cool and it'll be easier to take them away. Sales drop so pro gun businesses can't support their politicians when an anti gun business makes them an offer.

It's literally illegal to disarm American citizens en masse.

Could you elaborate?
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Mal_Fet
02/15/18 2:26:19 PM
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3deep5u posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Do you.....even know what a smart gun is

Smart phones don't necessarily have AI either, but more and more ship with AI assistants like Siri and Alexa. AI on a "smart gun" isn't so far off.

Ok so you don't know what a smart gun is.
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