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LordRazziel 02/15/18 12:23:06 PM #1:	Should congress approve funding for research on gun violence? They should They shouldn't View Results Should congress approve funding for research on gun violence? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896136092] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote> Should congress approve funding for research on gun violence? They should They shouldn't View Results Should congress approve funding for research on gun violence?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 02/15/18 12:23:57 PM #2:	Yes. Will they? lolno --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:896136151] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>Yes. Will they? lolno</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 02/15/18 12:24:18 PM #3:	K181 posted... Yes. Will they? lolno --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim team (drafting in progress): https://i.imgur.com/YH9yJ0l.png <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:896136187] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes. Will they? lolno</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 02/15/18 12:24:21 PM #4:	Why wouldn't they? --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:896136194] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>Why wouldn't they?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 02/15/18 12:26:15 PM #5:	I Like Toast posted... Why wouldn't they? because the NRA would freak out and stop donations --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim team (drafting in progress): https://i.imgur.com/YH9yJ0l.png <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:896136323] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Why wouldn't they?</quote> because the NRA would freak out and stop donations</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 02/15/18 12:26:34 PM #6:	I Like Toast posted... Why wouldn't they? They have specific legal restrictions in place banning government-funded research on gun violence thanks to NRA lobbying about twenty years ago. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:896136355] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Why wouldn't they?</quote> They have specific legal restrictions in place banning government-funded research on gun violence thanks to NRA lobbying about twenty years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
APM 02/15/18 12:27:00 PM #7:	Waste of money. Guns are our birth right --- https://imgur.com/a/9W9Yy <cite>APM posted [p:896136381] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>Waste of money. Guns are our birth right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 02/15/18 12:27:15 PM #8:	K181 posted... They have specific legal restrictions in place banning government-funded research on gun violence thanks to NRA lobbying about twenty years ago. Sigh --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:896136399] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>They have specific legal restrictions in place banning government-funded research on gun violence thanks to NRA lobbying about twenty years ago.</quote> Sigh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/15/18 12:28:25 PM #9:	APM posted... Waste of money. Guns are our birth right That doesn't mean ban guns. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896136456] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote>Waste of money. Guns are our birth right</quote> That doesn't mean ban guns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGreatHarlot 02/15/18 12:29:27 PM #10:	LordRazziel posted... APM posted... Waste of money. Guns are our birth right That doesn't mean ban guns. Thats what you want though. <cite>TheGreatHarlot posted [p:896136530] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote>Waste of money. Guns are our birth right</quote> That doesn't mean ban guns.</quote> Thats what you want though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 02/15/18 12:29:33 PM #11:	APM posted... Waste of money. Guns are our birth right So don't you want a solution that that doesn't involve banning guns? Gun owners more than anyone should want solutions to the shootings we experience. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:896136536] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote>Waste of money. Guns are our birth right</quote> So don't you want a solution that that doesn't involve banning guns? Gun owners more than anyone should want solutions to the shootings we experience.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
APM 02/15/18 12:30:13 PM #12:	I Like Toast posted... APM posted... Waste of money. Guns are our birth right So don't you want a solution that that doesn't involve banning guns? Gun owners more than anyone should want solutions to the shootings we experience. Arm everyone --- https://imgur.com/a/9W9Yy <cite>APM posted [p:896136571] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote>Waste of money. Guns are our birth right</quote> So don't you want a solution that that doesn't involve banning guns? Gun owners more than anyone should want solutions to the shootings we experience.</quote> Arm everyone</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 02/15/18 12:31:11 PM #13:	The current congress would give the funds to the NRA to do the research lol --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:896136624] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>The current congress would give the funds to the NRA to do the research lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 02/15/18 12:31:55 PM #14:	APM posted... I Like Toast posted... APM posted... Waste of money. Guns are our birth right So don't you want a solution that that doesn't involve banning guns? Gun owners more than anyone should want solutions to the shootings we experience. Arm everyone So you believe rights should be mandatory? --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:896136675] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote>Waste of money. Guns are our birth right</quote> So don't you want a solution that that doesn't involve banning guns? Gun owners more than anyone should want solutions to the shootings we experience.</quote> Arm everyone</quote> So you believe rights should be mandatory?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
APM 02/15/18 12:33:13 PM #15:	K181 posted... APM posted... I Like Toast posted... APM posted... Waste of money. Guns are our birth right So don't you want a solution that that doesn't involve banning guns? Gun owners more than anyone should want solutions to the shootings we experience. Arm everyone So you believe rights should be mandatory? They can choose not to arm themselves we ain't going force people to arm themselves like how Islam force women to wear a hijab --- https://imgur.com/a/9W9Yy <cite>APM posted [p:896136750] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote>Waste of money. Guns are our birth right</quote> So don't you want a solution that that doesn't involve banning guns? Gun owners more than anyone should want solutions to the shootings we experience.</quote> Arm everyone</quote> So you believe rights should be mandatory?</quote> They can choose not to arm themselves we ain't going force people to arm themselves like how Islam force women to wear a hijab</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 02/15/18 12:33:51 PM #16:	how would that... benefit corporations at all though. i don't think you've thought this through logically, tc --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:896136783] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>how would that... benefit corporations at all though. i don't think you've thought this through logically, tc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 02/15/18 12:34:06 PM #17:	Not really, gun violence is a non-issue in most people's lives. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:896136802] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>Not really, gun violence is a non-issue in most people's lives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 02/15/18 12:37:26 PM #18:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Not really, gun violence is a non-issue in most people's lives. We're also spending ridiculous sums of money incarcerating the shooters and treating the victims and amping up various security systems, which all falls back on the taxpayer. --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:896136980] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Not really, gun violence is a non-issue in most people's lives.</quote> We're also spending ridiculous sums of money incarcerating the shooters and treating the victims and amping up various security systems, which all falls back on the taxpayer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 02/15/18 12:38:31 PM #19:	APM posted... K181 posted... APM posted... I Like Toast posted... APM posted... Waste of money. Guns are our birth right So don't you want a solution that that doesn't involve banning guns? Gun owners more than anyone should want solutions to the shootings we experience. Arm everyone So you believe rights should be mandatory? They can choose not to arm themselves we ain't going force people to arm themselves like how Islam force women to wear a hijab So then if it's a no brainer that having a massive armed populace would be the solution to endemic gun violence, you should support government-funded research into the matter as surely your solution would have to be one of the suggestions they come up with then, right? --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:896137045] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote>Waste of money. Guns are our birth right</quote> So don't you want a solution that that doesn't involve banning guns? Gun owners more than anyone should want solutions to the shootings we experience.</quote> Arm everyone</quote> So you believe rights should be mandatory?</quote> They can choose not to arm themselves we ain't going force people to arm themselves like how Islam force women to wear a hijab</quote> So then if it's a no brainer that having a massive armed populace would be the solution to endemic gun violence, you should support government-funded research into the matter as surely your solution would have to be one of the suggestions they come up with then, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 02/15/18 12:38:35 PM #20:	Waste of money --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.png <cite>Irony posted [p:896137052] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>Waste of money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VectorChaos 02/15/18 12:41:50 PM #21:	Muffinz0rz posted... I Like Toast posted... Why wouldn't they? because the NRA would freak out and stop donations Also, what the fuck are they even going to discover after millions of dollars spent researching this other than "some people are just fucking unhinged" --- PSN VectorChaos http://i.imgur.com/ftMERkZ.jpg XBL Vector Chaos http://i.imgur.com/10hWZ95.png http://i.imgur.com/MZMOLx0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R2jRl8F.jpg <cite>VectorChaos posted [p:896137259] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Why wouldn't they?</quote> because the NRA would freak out and stop donations</quote> Also, what the fuck are they even going to discover after millions of dollars spent researching this other than "some people are just fucking unhinged"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/15/18 12:43:02 PM #22:	Irony posted... Waste of money Why? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896137342] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>Waste of money</quote> Why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 02/15/18 12:44:08 PM #23:	Because it'll turn up what we already know --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.png <cite>Irony posted [p:896137405] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>Because it'll turn up what we already know</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/15/18 12:44:27 PM #24:	VectorChaos posted... Muffinz0rz posted... I Like Toast posted... Why wouldn't they? because the NRA would freak out and stop donations Also, what the fuck are they even going to discover after millions of dollars spent researching this other than "some people are just fucking unhinged" So do nothing? Just accept these tragedies and move on? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896137421] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Why wouldn't they?</quote> because the NRA would freak out and stop donations</quote> Also, what the fuck are they even going to discover after millions of dollars spent researching this other than "some people are just fucking unhinged"</quote> So do nothing? Just accept these tragedies and move on?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 02/15/18 12:57:18 PM #25:	LordRazziel posted... VectorChaos posted... Muffinz0rz posted... I Like Toast posted... Why wouldn't they? because the NRA would freak out and stop donations Also, what the fuck are they even going to discover after millions of dollars spent researching this other than "some people are just fucking unhinged" So do nothing? Just accept these tragedies and move on? If the last decade has taught us anything, yes, that's what is going to happen --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim team (drafting in progress): https://i.imgur.com/YH9yJ0l.png <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:896138158] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Why wouldn't they?</quote> because the NRA would freak out and stop donations</quote> Also, what the fuck are they even going to discover after millions of dollars spent researching this other than "some people are just fucking unhinged"</quote> So do nothing? Just accept these tragedies and move on?</quote> If the last decade has taught us anything, yes, that's what is going to happen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 02/15/18 12:59:35 PM #26:	LordRazziel posted... So do nothing? Just accept these tragedies and move on? Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident? --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:896138302] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote> So do nothing? Just accept these tragedies and move on?</quote> Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 02/15/18 1:00:18 PM #27:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... LordRazziel posted... So do nothing? Just accept these tragedies and move on? Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident? hahahah lmfao whose mans is this --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim team (drafting in progress): https://i.imgur.com/YH9yJ0l.png <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:896138340] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote> So do nothing? Just accept these tragedies and move on?</quote> Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident?</quote> hahahah lmfao whose mans is this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 02/15/18 1:03:31 PM #28:	VectorChaos posted... Muffinz0rz posted... I Like Toast posted... Why wouldn't they? because the NRA would freak out and stop donations Also, what the fuck are they even going to discover after millions of dollars spent researching this other than "some people are just fucking unhinged" We're literally the only major Western country that has systematic and massive amounts of gun violence. If it's nothing more than people are unhinged, don't you think that research into that would be a worthwhile endeavor and, if the end suggestion is additional mental health funding or some other type of social program, that we should look into it? Seriously, folks that are against this are either "mah guns" posters or straight up trolling at this point. Gun advocates should absolutely be in favor of less gun violence. That's a no brainer. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:896138501] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Why wouldn't they?</quote> because the NRA would freak out and stop donations</quote> Also, what the fuck are they even going to discover after millions of dollars spent researching this other than "some people are just fucking unhinged"</quote> We're literally the only major Western country that has systematic and massive amounts of gun violence. If it's nothing more than people are unhinged, don't you think that research into that would be a worthwhile endeavor and, if the end suggestion is additional mental health funding or some other type of social program, that we should look into it? Seriously, folks that are against this are either "mah guns" posters or straight up trolling at this point. Gun advocates should absolutely be in favor of less gun violence. That's a no brainer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uncle Choad 02/15/18 1:04:58 PM #29:	Only if they can analyze how spoken or written words impact psychological health on individuals as well. --- Oden ska fa sin hamnd. Jag ska doda er alla, sen ska jag dricka mjod med honom. <cite>Uncle Choad posted [p:896138572] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>Only if they can analyze how spoken or written words impact psychological health on individuals as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/15/18 1:06:25 PM #30:	@Anarchy_Juiblex posted... LordRazziel posted... So do nothing? Just accept these tragedies and move on? Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident? You know, OSHA has done that... So falling of ladders is looked into, mass murder is whatever. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896138661] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote> So do nothing? Just accept these tragedies and move on?</quote> Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident?</quote> You know, OSHA has done that... So falling of ladders is looked into, mass murder is whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uncle Choad 02/15/18 1:06:56 PM #31:	Muffinz0rz posted... LordRazziel posted... VectorChaos posted... Muffinz0rz posted... I Like Toast posted... Why wouldn't they? because the NRA would freak out and stop donations Also, what the fuck are they even going to discover after millions of dollars spent researching this other than "some people are just fucking unhinged" So do nothing? Just accept these tragedies and move on? If the last decade has taught us anything, yes, that's what is going to happen Which is fine. --- Oden ska fa sin hamnd. Jag ska doda er alla, sen ska jag dricka mjod med honom. <cite>Uncle Choad posted [p:896138693] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Why wouldn't they?</quote> because the NRA would freak out and stop donations</quote> Also, what the fuck are they even going to discover after millions of dollars spent researching this other than "some people are just fucking unhinged"</quote> So do nothing? Just accept these tragedies and move on?</quote> If the last decade has taught us anything, yes, that's what is going to happen</quote> Which is fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 02/15/18 1:09:20 PM #32:	LordRazziel posted... You know, OSHA has done that... Investigating accidents =/= creating new policy. A lot of the time on the job accidents happen because people aren't following already established guide lines. We also investigate every gun homicide too. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:896138828] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>You know, OSHA has done that...</quote> Investigating accidents =/= creating new policy. A lot of the time on the job accidents happen because people aren't following already established guide lines. We also investigate every gun homicide too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 02/15/18 1:09:50 PM #33:	APM posted... Arm everyone Including children, the mentally ill, convicts, etc? I can only hope that you're just a troll. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:896138851] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote>Arm everyone</quote> Including children, the mentally ill, convicts, etc? I can only hope that you're just a troll.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 02/15/18 1:10:02 PM #34:	Here's short and sweet. I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:896138866] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>Here's short and sweet. I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 02/15/18 1:13:01 PM #35:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it. Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident? this guy tacitly endorses mass shootings because attempts to reduce mass shootings would infringe upon his rights which I guarantee you he never uses --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim team (drafting in progress): https://i.imgur.com/YH9yJ0l.png <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:896139023] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it.</quote> <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident?</quote> this guy tacitly endorses mass shootings because attempts to reduce mass shootings would infringe upon his rights which I guarantee you he never uses</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/15/18 1:13:06 PM #36:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... LordRazziel posted... You know, OSHA has done that... Investigating accidents =/= creating new policy. A lot of the time on the job accidents happen because people aren't following already established guide lines. We also investigate every gun homicide too. Investigation is not research. OSHA goes through data and researches best safety practices, then introduces policy that must be followed. Edit: they also conduct practical experiments. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896139024] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>You know, OSHA has done that...</quote> Investigating accidents =/= creating new policy. A lot of the time on the job accidents happen because people aren't following already established guide lines. We also investigate every gun homicide too.</quote> Investigation is not research. OSHA goes through data and researches best safety practices, then introduces policy that must be followed. Edit: they also conduct practical experiments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 02/15/18 1:13:38 PM #37:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... LordRazziel posted... You know, OSHA has done that... Investigating accidents =/= creating new policy. A lot of the time on the job accidents happen because people aren't following already established guide lines. We also investigate every gun homicide too. In terms of finding out who did the crime, yes. Not in terms of finding out why on a societal level it's happening so often. And, to use the OSHA example, there's a difference between finding out about one defective ladder in an overall line of working ladders, versus finding a defective flaw in the whole batch. Not investigating gun violence is akin to not investigating why [insert brand and model here] of ladders keep breaking when someone's on them and not doing anything beyond that. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:896139057] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>You know, OSHA has done that...</quote> Investigating accidents =/= creating new policy. A lot of the time on the job accidents happen because people aren't following already established guide lines. We also investigate every gun homicide too.</quote> In terms of finding out who did the crime, yes. Not in terms of finding out why on a societal level it's happening so often. And, to use the OSHA example, there's a difference between finding out about one defective ladder in an overall line of working ladders, versus finding a defective flaw in the whole batch. Not investigating gun violence is akin to not investigating why [insert brand and model here] of ladders keep breaking when someone's on them and not doing anything beyond that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uncle Choad 02/15/18 1:14:38 PM #38:	Muffinz0rz posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it. Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident? this guy tacitly endorses mass shootings because attempts to reduce mass shootings would infringe upon his rights which I guarantee you he never uses This guy doesn't understand America. --- Oden ska fa sin hamnd. Jag ska doda er alla, sen ska jag dricka mjod med honom. <cite>Uncle Choad posted [p:896139107] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it.</quote> <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident?</quote> this guy tacitly endorses mass shootings because attempts to reduce mass shootings would infringe upon his rights which I guarantee you he never uses</quote> This guy doesn't understand America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 02/15/18 1:16:01 PM #39:	And how much of this money will just be wasted at the expense of the taxpayer rather than solving problems? --- https://i.imgur.com/lwkIVOb.png <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:896139171] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>And how much of this money will just be wasted at the expense of the taxpayer rather than solving problems?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 02/15/18 1:17:03 PM #40:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Here's short and sweet. I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it. Then you should support studies that would do exactly that. There are a lot of things between keep things as they are, when it's clearly not work, and taking away your guns. The most likely of which would be a combination of improving knowledge of guns and improving our capacity to tackle mental health problems. Banning guns isn't a feasible solution, even if we ignored how difficult it would be to change the the constitution on any of the first 10 which are held in a special esteem. Plugging your ears and going lalalalal, that is the easiest path to what you don't want. Because if you don't work on a solution, the attempt will be made by non gun owners who do not care about your ability to own a gun and do not understand what someone who legally owns a gun is like. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:896139243] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Here's short and sweet. I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it.</quote> Then you should support studies that would do exactly that. There are a lot of things between keep things as they are, when it's clearly not work, and taking away your guns. The most likely of which would be a combination of improving knowledge of guns and improving our capacity to tackle mental health problems. Banning guns isn't a feasible solution, even if we ignored how difficult it would be to change the the constitution on any of the first 10 which are held in a special esteem. Plugging your ears and going lalalalal, that is the easiest path to what you don't want. Because if you don't work on a solution, the attempt will be made by non gun owners who do not care about your ability to own a gun and do not understand what someone who legally owns a gun is like.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/15/18 1:31:01 PM #41:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Here's short and sweet. I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it. The research isn't to take your guns. I think you know that, but throw it out there when you are out of arguments. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896140017] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Here's short and sweet. I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it.</quote> The research isn't to take your guns. I think you know that, but throw it out there when you are out of arguments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 02/15/18 1:35:00 PM #42:	it never ceases to amaze me how blindly oppositional @Anarchy_Juiblex is in these topics about gun control, it is so weird because he is usually pretty reasonable and has some nuance to his thinking especially about issues like this. I've mentioned it before (because he always brings it up) but I've seen him argue that the reason we don't have more 9/11 style events is that we do things as a government to stop them, which means it is a bad idea to show that lawn mowers kill more people than terrorists. but then this issue that is objectively a much bigger concern than either of those things comes up and he ceaselessly asks, why do we need to do something about it, it doesn't effect most people. But that is also true of 9/11 style terrorism, so why is it that he can see how government policies would work in that case but not in this other, much bigger case? and then he directly compares it to stuff like falling off ladders or whatever, which is just as asinine as comparing terrorism to lawn mower deaths, but he does it without irony or humorous intent. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:896140273] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>it never ceases to amaze me how blindly oppositional @Anarchy_Juiblex is in these topics about gun control, it is so weird because he is usually pretty reasonable and has some nuance to his thinking especially about issues like this. I've mentioned it before (because he always brings it up) but I've seen him argue that the reason we don't have more 9/11 style events is that we do things as a government to stop them, which means it is a bad idea to show that lawn mowers kill more people than terrorists. but then this issue that is objectively a much bigger concern than either of those things comes up and he ceaselessly asks, why do we need to do something about it, it doesn't effect most people. But that is also true of 9/11 style terrorism, so why is it that he can see how government policies would work in that case but not in this other, much bigger case? and then he directly compares it to stuff like falling off ladders or whatever, which is just as asinine as comparing terrorism to lawn mower deaths, but he does it without irony or humorous intent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 02/15/18 3:01:56 PM #43:	Uncle Choad posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it. Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident? this guy tacitly endorses mass shootings because attempts to reduce mass shootings would infringe upon his rights which I guarantee you he never uses This guy doesn't understand America. I'm not in favor of banning guns outright, if that's what you're insinuating. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim team (drafting in progress): https://i.imgur.com/YH9yJ0l.png <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:896145599] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Uncle Choad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it.</quote> <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident?</quote> this guy tacitly endorses mass shootings because attempts to reduce mass shootings would infringe upon his rights which I guarantee you he never uses</quote> This guy doesn't understand America.</quote> I'm not in favor of banning guns outright, if that's what you're insinuating.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 02/15/18 3:10:04 PM #44:	Liberals would call the results racist. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:896146120] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>Liberals would call the results racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SideshowBob311 02/15/18 3:15:18 PM #45:	Just what the federal government needs...more things to waste money on. --- "Whether or not you can handle it, you have just heard another statement of the TRUTH." [WoT] - [Evil Republican] <cite>SideshowBob311 posted [p:896146518] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote>Just what the federal government needs...more things to waste money on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uncle Choad 02/15/18 3:46:22 PM #46:	Muffinz0rz posted... Uncle Choad posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it. Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident? this guy tacitly endorses mass shootings because attempts to reduce mass shootings would infringe upon his rights which I guarantee you he never uses This guy doesn't understand America. I'm not in favor of banning guns outright, if that's what you're insinuating. I'm talking about the "I guarantee you he never uses". Why should that matter at all, ever? --- Oden ska fa sin hamnd. Jag ska doda er alla, sen ska jag dricka mjod med honom. <cite>Uncle Choad posted [p:896148664] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Uncle Choad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not giving up any more of my rights, fuck you come get them. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it.</quote> <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Do we need new legislation, policy and action every time there's a tragedy? How about every time someone falls of a ladder, every car accident?</quote> this guy tacitly endorses mass shootings because attempts to reduce mass shootings would infringe upon his rights which I guarantee you he never uses</quote> This guy doesn't understand America.</quote> I'm not in favor of banning guns outright, if that's what you're insinuating.</quote> I'm talking about the "I guarantee you he never uses". Why should that matter at all, ever?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrAyFoX312k 02/15/18 3:49:57 PM #47:	VectorChaos posted... Muffinz0rz posted... I Like Toast posted... Why wouldn't they? because the NRA would freak out and stop donations Also, what the fuck are they even going to discover after millions of dollars spent researching this other than "some people are just fucking unhinged" Then we go on from there. Progress continues. --- "A cornered fox is more dangerous than a jackal!" -Grayfox XBL/PSN : GrayFox312k 3DS: 1907-9227-8659 <cite>GrAyFoX312k posted [p:896148910] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Why wouldn't they?</quote> because the NRA would freak out and stop donations</quote> Also, what the fuck are they even going to discover after millions of dollars spent researching this other than "some people are just fucking unhinged"</quote> Then we go on from there. Progress continues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrAyFoX312k 02/15/18 3:54:10 PM #48:	I Like Toast posted... APM posted... Arm everyone Including children, the mentally ill, convicts, etc? I can only hope that you're just a troll. Everyone. The second amendment gives everyone the right to bear arms period. Not advocating, just saying. --- "A cornered fox is more dangerous than a jackal!" -Grayfox XBL/PSN : GrayFox312k 3DS: 1907-9227-8659 <cite>GrAyFoX312k posted [p:896149190] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>APM posted...</cite> <quote>Arm everyone</quote> Including children, the mentally ill, convicts, etc? I can only hope that you're just a troll.</quote> Everyone. The second amendment gives everyone the right to bear arms period. Not advocating, just saying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrAyFoX312k 02/15/18 4:03:44 PM #49:	SideshowBob311 posted... Just what the federal government needs...more things to waste money on. I change my vote. It should be privately funded not government funded. While it should be a government interest since it affects our well being, government is an entity made up of self individual interest and giving them more money could just be adding fuel to the fire. Whereas private funding theres less of a chance for corrupt self interest to hinder progress because the self interest would be mutual. --- "A cornered fox is more dangerous than a jackal!" -Grayfox XBL/PSN : GrayFox312k 3DS: 1907-9227-8659 <cite>GrAyFoX312k posted [p:896149782] in Should con... [t:76321959]...</cite> <quote><cite>SideshowBob311 posted...</cite> <quote>Just what the federal government needs...more things to waste money on.</quote> I change my vote. It should be privately funded not government funded. While it should be a government interest since it affects our well being, government is an entity made up of self individual interest and giving them more money could just be adding fuel to the fire. Whereas private funding theres less of a chance for corrupt self interest to hinder progress because the self interest would be mutual.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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