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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 1:00:43 AM
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Takes a few minutes on the boot screen. No idea why. I just disabled all the high resource startup programs and it made no impact at all. Not really sure how to do a more in depth look.
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 8:50:26 AM
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I see nobody else has ideas
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Unsugarized_Foo
02/15/18 8:50:57 AM
#3:


Unplug the internet then try
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MrResetti
02/15/18 8:51:15 AM
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 8:56:20 AM
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I did
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 8:57:03 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Unplug the internet then try

Actually now that you mention it this is a good idea
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Makeveli_lives
02/15/18 8:58:24 AM
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Least you can update, my computer been having issues for over a year now.
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 8:59:52 AM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Least you can update, my computer been having issues for over a year now.

Well mine shouldn't, it has very little software and beefy hardware.
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tremain07
02/15/18 9:01:52 AM
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My computer wants 8gs free to update Window's 10 and I've already deleted ever non important thing on it already so they can fuck off.
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Rexdragon125
02/15/18 9:07:10 AM
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That's Windows 10 for you. Its boot time is totally random.
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BlazinBlue88
02/15/18 9:14:23 AM
#11:


Use Ccleaner to run the Registry cleaner on your machine. It'll clean up a ton of non-functioning/left over Registry keys which will help the OS's speed. While you're there, run the standard cleaner function to free up some disk space.
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 9:28:48 AM
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I have a SSD tho so I don't want to defrag.
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Kombucha
02/15/18 9:52:15 AM
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after the fall creators update my mouse constantly had the blue circle (thinking) and it annoyed the crap out of me so i just changed out the icon for it to the default (not thinking) mouse to hide the issue.

x.x
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BlazinBlue88
02/15/18 12:26:28 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
I have a SSD tho so I don't want to defrag.

This isn't a defrag. Ccleaner cleans up System temp/log files and also cleans unused Reg keys. The larger the Registry is, the longer it takes for the OS to locate the proper Reg keys it needs.
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 2:06:12 PM
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I'll try it. Defender doesn't report any malware.
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Rexdragon125
02/15/18 2:12:26 PM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
The larger the Registry is, the longer it takes for the OS to locate the proper Reg keys it needs.

Nope lol. It's a hash table lookup, which constant time
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Master_Bass
02/15/18 2:14:27 PM
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Perhaps try resetting Windows. Here's how:

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2016/10/how-to-make-your-windows-10-computer-work-like-new-again/
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Rexdragon125
02/15/18 2:19:48 PM
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Yeah a reformat is your best bet. Windows 10 boot times vary so wildly depending on whatever random bugs it's hitting.
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 2:24:07 PM
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I don't care about reformatting.
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rabbi_baby
02/15/18 2:26:23 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
I don't care about reformatting.

You should reformat.
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SomeGuyUO
02/15/18 2:26:30 PM
#21:


Cleanup the leftover update files
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wdlp
02/15/18 2:27:10 PM
#22:


yeah the creators update introduced a shitload of various bugs across a broad range of features
try googling your problem until you find someone with a solution

there should be loads from the past six months
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 2:31:39 PM
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rabbi_baby posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
I don't care about reformatting.

You should reformat.

Your face should reformat
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Questionmarktarius
02/15/18 2:49:17 PM
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Check your update history, and see if the same two KBs have been "successfully installed" several times each day.

1607 has a huge problem with repeatedly attempting to install a couple KBs, then randomly attempting (and failing) at upgrading to 1709.
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rabbi_baby
02/15/18 3:25:29 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
rabbi_baby posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
I don't care about reformatting.

You should reformat.

Your face should reformat

Just pretend you're formatting my face while you format your broke ass computer.
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BlazinBlue88
02/15/18 4:22:14 PM
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Rexdragon125 posted...
BlazinBlue88 posted...
The larger the Registry is, the longer it takes for the OS to locate the proper Reg keys it needs.

Nope lol. It's a hash table lookup, which constant time

@Rexdragon125

Hmm. I always heard left over install/uninstall reg keys would cause eventual performance issues.
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Galcian
02/15/18 4:27:05 PM
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Same for me TC I switched over to Linux Mint and it is great
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Rexdragon125
02/15/18 4:30:45 PM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
Hmm. I always heard left over install/uninstall reg keys would cause eventual performance issues.

From people who want to sell snake oil registry cleaners, and those who bought into it
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BlazinBlue88
02/15/18 4:32:36 PM
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Rexdragon125 posted...
BlazinBlue88 posted...
Hmm. I always heard left over install/uninstall reg keys would cause eventual performance issues.

From people who want to sell snake oil registry cleaners, and those who bought into it

Probably. Still, performance hindrance or not, no reason not to clean it up I guess. Ccleaner has an excellence free version so w/e.
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 5:05:24 PM
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Galcian posted...
Same for me TC I switched over to Linux Mint and it is great

Yeah Ubuntu is great for my laptop. Not gaming.
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 7:45:32 PM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
Use Ccleaner to run the Registry cleaner on your machine. It'll clean up a ton of non-functioning/left over Registry keys which will help the OS's speed. While you're there, run the standard cleaner function to free up some disk space.

So no offense dude but this looks like it's chock-full of malware. Also if what the other guy said is true there's no point.

Questionmarktarius posted...
Check your update history, and see if the same two KBs have been "successfully installed" several times each day.

1607 has a huge problem with repeatedly attempting to install a couple KBs, then randomly attempting (and failing) at upgrading to 1709.

Didn't see anything suspect, except flash player updating like every week.

Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Unplug the internet then try

Time to try this.
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E32005
02/15/18 7:47:26 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
I see nobody else has ideas

sorry. they do weekly updates on wednesday's. last update didnt effect my comp so I really couldnt say.

do you use SSD or HDD?
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 7:57:19 PM
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SSD. Unplugging didn't work. Guess I'll just run mbam. I have 16 GB of RAM and an i5 6600K. This is literally the only thing my computer is doing that doesn't go like greased lightning. I suspect it's a Windows update, but like I said none of them have any reinstall problems.
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 8:49:40 PM
#34:


Yeah mbam didn't find anything. Also did this stuff https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/windows-10-slow-boot-issues/

No dice. Although I have only bothered to update the graphics driver, not the others or the mobo firmware. Fuck if I know.
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 9:20:10 PM
#35:


Well I found some errors in the event viewer, but I'm not exactly sure how to fix those. Whatever that is is probably what's messing things up.
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BlazinBlue88
02/16/18 9:05:14 AM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
So no offense dude but this looks like it's chock-full of malware. Also if what the other guy said is true there's no point.

It's not. I've used it in enterprise environments for over 8 years and personally for 12. But yes, if my info about reg keys slowing down the system is incorrect then CCleaner isn't needed for your purpose.

New thought: You've already cleaned up the start up programs but what about the Services? Going to services.msc will open up the menu listing all the services that run on your computer. See how many have the Startup Type set to Automatic. These will start when the computer boots. Manual means that they will only start when a program calls them.

Example: The print spooler is set to Automatic. If you don't printer from your computer, then there's no need to have it running all the time.

Screenshots of the Even Viewer errors?
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Questionmarktarius
02/16/18 9:36:18 AM
#37:


Do you have a Logitech mouse?
Disconnect the USB dongle, reboot, and watch what happens. Windows 10 seems to be moderately allergic to the Unifying Receiver on random occasions, especially during updates and bootup.

BlazinBlue88 posted...
Example: The print spooler is set to Automatic. If you don't printer from your computer, then there's no need to have it running all the time.

Even if you do print all the time, manual means only the first print job is moderately slower to get going.
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BlazinBlue88
02/16/18 11:04:45 AM
#38:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Even if you do print all the time, manual means only the first print job is moderately slower to get going.

Yeah cause the service will need to start when that first print job is requested. There's always services I need to disable or turn manual when I first install Windows on a box.
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P4wn4g3
02/16/18 11:10:27 AM
#39:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Do you have a Logitech mouse?
Disconnect the USB dongle, reboot, and watch what happens. Windows 10 seems to be moderately allergic to the Unifying Receiver on random occasions, especially during updates and bootup.

Yeah actually. And a Logitech G11 keyboard. I guess I'll try it out. I. At work atm.
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P4wn4g3
02/16/18 3:34:00 PM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
Screenshots of the Even Viewer errors?

https://imgtc.com/a/qLIvdV5
I put the last few on there. I can copy more details in if needed.

Anyway I'll try the mouse.
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P4wn4g3
02/16/18 3:36:52 PM
#41:


OK so it actually is the mouse. Is there a fix for this?
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BlazinBlue88
02/16/18 3:37:28 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
BlazinBlue88 posted...
Screenshots of the Even Viewer errors?

https://imgtc.com/a/qLIvdV5
I put the last few on there. I can copy more details in if needed.

Anyway I'll try the mouse.

Unfortunately, that's just Windows telling you it's taking so much time to boot that there is probably something wrong. It's not actually detailing the cause of it.
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Questionmarktarius
02/16/18 3:41:17 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
OK so it actually is the mouse. Is there a fix for this?

Not that I'm aware of, apart from physically removing the USB dongle.
It may or may not go away on its own for some unknown reason, then may or may not reappear again for some unknown reason.
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P4wn4g3
02/16/18 3:43:56 PM
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This is the weirdest thing. How did you know about this?
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Questionmarktarius
02/16/18 3:44:39 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
This is the weirdest thing. How did you know about this?

Had it happen a few times. Troubleshooted it down to the USB dongle.
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P4wn4g3
02/16/18 3:49:11 PM
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Well done. Not sure I would have figured that out.
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