Current Events > Man cleans graffiti from his building; ordered to pay "artists" $6.7M

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Manocheese 02/13/18 7:57:33 PM #1:	Ruling that graffiti - a typically transient form of art - was of sufficient stature to be protected by the law, a federal judge in Brooklyn awarded a judgment of $6.7 million on Monday to 21 graffiti artists whose works were destroyed in 2013 at the 5Pointz complex in Long Island City, Queens. In November, a landmark trial came to a close in Federal District Court in Brooklyn when a civil jury decided that Jerry Wolkoff, a real estate developer who owned 5Pointz, broke the law when he whitewashed dozens of swirling murals at the complex, obliterating what a lawyer for the artists had called "the worlds largest open-air aerosol museum." Though Mr. Wolkoffs lawyers had argued that the buildings were his to treat as he pleased, the jury found he violated the Visual Artists Rights Act, or V.A.R.A., which has been used to protect public art of "recognized stature" created on someones else property. https://tinyurl.com/y7ypohrz Ridiculous. Vandals apparently have more rights than property owners in New York. --- ()_() Hardcore - We'll probably be modded for this... (o.o) http://manocheese.googlepages.com/manocheesery <cite>Manocheese posted [p:896032745] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><quote>Ruling that graffiti - a typically transient form of art - was of sufficient stature to be protected by the law, a federal judge in Brooklyn awarded a judgment of $6.7 million on Monday to 21 graffiti artists whose works were destroyed in 2013 at the 5Pointz complex in Long Island City, Queens. In November, a landmark trial came to a close in Federal District Court in Brooklyn when a civil jury decided that Jerry Wolkoff, a real estate developer who owned 5Pointz, broke the law when he whitewashed dozens of swirling murals at the complex, obliterating what a lawyer for the artists had called "the worlds largest open-air aerosol museum." Though Mr. Wolkoffs lawyers had argued that the buildings were his to treat as he pleased, the jury found he violated the Visual Artists Rights Act, or V.A.R.A., which has been used to protect public art of "recognized stature" created on someones else property.</quote> https://tinyurl.com/y7ypohrz Ridiculous. Vandals apparently have more rights than property owners in New York.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrK3V 02/13/18 7:58:07 PM #2:	Don't deface art then smh --- Bangers https://open.spotify.com/user/1226504071/playlist/3X4SSY5tgxTTgdwlkmoH9F <cite>MrK3V posted [p:896032774] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>Don't deface art then smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/13/18 8:00:26 PM #3:	This needs to go to SCOTUS. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:896032891] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>This needs to go to SCOTUS.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 02/13/18 8:01:07 PM #4:	Dafuq --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:896032930] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>Dafuq</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cal12 02/13/18 8:01:20 PM #5:	Im mystified as to how their graffiti defacing privately owned buildings is protected. What is this world coming too when someone cant paint their own property cause vandals defaced it and then have some bizarre law protecting their art? <cite>Cal12 posted [p:896032944] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>Im mystified as to how their graffiti defacing privately owned buildings is protected. What is this world coming too when someone cant paint their own property cause vandals defaced it and then have some bizarre law protecting their art?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 02/13/18 8:01:28 PM #6:	That is absolutely fucking ridiculous. It's his property. They vandalized it. What the fuck --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:896032951] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>That is absolutely fucking ridiculous. It's his property. They vandalized it. What the fuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 02/13/18 8:01:51 PM #7:	Imagine thinking defacing someone's property is "art". --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:896032973] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>Imagine thinking defacing someone's property is "art".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
50Blessings 02/13/18 8:02:08 PM #8:	This is why Trump won. --- America is a tune. It must be sung together. --50 Blessings https://i.imgur.com/xKI9rbb.jpg <cite>50Blessings posted [p:896032994] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>This is why Trump won.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 02/13/18 8:02:25 PM #9:	weapon_d00d816 posted... That is absolutely fucking ridiculous. It's his property. They vandalized it. What the fuck --- https://i.imgtc.com/usDFlRA.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/GSrk8Nh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TAaXq7d.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/BnnNepT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ggQozRe.png <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:896033011] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>That is absolutely fucking ridiculous. It's his property. They vandalized it. What the fuck</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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butthole666 02/13/18 8:03:44 PM #11:	50Blessings posted... This is why Trump won. No dumb white folks hating brown people is why trump won --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s <cite>butthole666 posted [p:896033086] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote>This is why Trump won.</quote> No dumb white folks hating brown people is why trump won</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 02/13/18 8:03:56 PM #12:	Questionmarktarius posted... This needs to go to SCOTUS. Agreed. If someone vandalizes your property and you have to pay them when you go to clean it up, something is seriously fucked up with the system. Sounds like some idiot activist judge overstepping again. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:896033095] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>This needs to go to SCOTUS.</quote> Agreed. If someone vandalizes your property and you have to pay them when you go to clean it up, something is seriously fucked up with the system. Sounds like some idiot activist judge overstepping again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 02/13/18 8:04:59 PM #13:	Can someone explain to me why the usual crowd are pretending this is a liberal vs conservative issue --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:896033163] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain to me why the usual crowd are pretending this is a liberal vs conservative issue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kyujo 02/13/18 8:05:51 PM #15:	DuranOfForcena posted... DocileOrangeCup posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... That is absolutely fucking ridiculous. It's his property. They vandalized it. What the fuck --- Current Game(s): Ys VIII, DBX2, Must-watch: Legion, Orville, Gotham, TWD <cite>kyujo posted [p:896033213] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DocileOrangeCup posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>That is absolutely fucking ridiculous. It's his property. They vandalized it. What the fuck</quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 02/13/18 8:06:41 PM #16:	Also, this isn't art. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:896033261] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>Also, this isn't art. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ilovuuu 02/13/18 8:07:26 PM #17:	NYC is a shithole <cite>ilovuuu posted [p:896033308] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>NYC is a shithole</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Epic-Vegan_420 02/13/18 8:07:36 PM #18:	The Admiral posted... Also, this isn't art. how is that not art <cite>Epic-Vegan_420 posted [p:896033320] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Also, this isn't art. </quote> how is that not art</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
therin_lews_kin 02/13/18 8:07:42 PM #19:	The Admiral posted... Also, this isn't art. it's culture, dude you just wouldn't understand it --- http://i.imgtc.com/j3yEe8G.gif <cite>therin_lews_kin posted [p:896033325] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Also, this isn't art. </quote> it's culture, dude you just wouldn't understand it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 02/13/18 8:08:10 PM #20:	This isn't over. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 1 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:896033354] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>This isn't over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 02/13/18 8:08:53 PM #22:	What a load of shit. Hopefully those artists use that money to get some paper or something thats not a building. Or any public property. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:896033389] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>What a load of shit. Hopefully those artists use that money to get some paper or something thats not a building. Or any public property.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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E32005 02/13/18 8:09:39 PM #24:	the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:896033432] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/13/18 8:10:02 PM #25:	therin_lews_kin posted... The Admiral posted... Also, this isn't art. it's culture, dude you just wouldn't understand it vandalism is "culture"? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:896033451] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>therin_lews_kin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Also, this isn't art. </quote> it's culture, dude you just wouldn't understand it</quote> vandalism is "culture"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cal12 02/13/18 8:10:45 PM #26:	The judge went completely overboard in his decisions and reasoning. He also claimed the guy needed permits to paint over the graffiti which I tried looking up and there is nothing I can find through googling saying you need permits to paint a building before you tear it down. This will get struck in appeals if not by scotus. <cite>Cal12 posted [p:896033498] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>The judge went completely overboard in his decisions and reasoning. He also claimed the guy needed permits to paint over the graffiti which I tried looking up and there is nothing I can find through googling saying you need permits to paint a building before you tear it down. This will get struck in appeals if not by scotus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
therin_lews_kin 02/13/18 8:11:03 PM #27:	Questionmarktarius posted... therin_lews_kin posted... The Admiral posted... Also, this isn't art. it's culture, dude you just wouldn't understand it vandalism is "culture"? now you're getting it --- http://i.imgtc.com/j3yEe8G.gif <cite>therin_lews_kin posted [p:896033518] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>therin_lews_kin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Also, this isn't art. </quote> it's culture, dude you just wouldn't understand it</quote> vandalism is "culture"?</quote> now you're getting it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Swagnificent119 02/13/18 8:11:41 PM #28:	Dude needs to get this overturned then sue the judge or get him thrown out or something. --- https://imgur.com/VQfjsWf <cite>Swagnificent119 posted [p:896033551] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>Dude needs to get this overturned then sue the judge or get him thrown out or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Epic-Vegan_420 02/13/18 8:11:41 PM #29:	E32005 posted... the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags <cite>Epic-Vegan_420 posted [p:896033555] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging</quote> Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 02/13/18 8:12:19 PM #30:	Epic-Vegan_420 posted... E32005 posted... the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags Whose alt is this? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:896033589] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>Epic-Vegan_420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging</quote> Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags</quote> Whose alt is this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Epic-Vegan_420 02/13/18 8:13:17 PM #31:	The Admiral posted... Epic-Vegan_420 posted... E32005 posted... the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags Whose alt is this? EMP But I don't use alts, I just run an account to the ground and make a new one <cite>Epic-Vegan_420 posted [p:896033651] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Epic-Vegan_420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging</quote> Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags</quote> Whose alt is this?</quote> EMP But I don't use alts, I just run an account to the ground and make a new one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 02/13/18 8:13:44 PM #32:	Epic-Vegan_420 posted... E32005 posted... the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags yeah i've never seen the million fucking tags littering LA or San Fran. nope. its all derivative. there is actual street art; this aint it. --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:896033675] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>Epic-Vegan_420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging</quote> Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags</quote> yeah i've never seen the million fucking tags littering LA or San Fran. nope. its all derivative. there is actual street art; this aint it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Epic-Vegan_420 02/13/18 8:14:35 PM #33:	E32005 posted... Epic-Vegan_420 posted... E32005 posted... the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags yeah i've never seen the million fucking tags littering LA or San Fran. nope. its all derivative. there is actual street art; this aint it. most of those are throwies, none of them are tags tags are one color, usually one line even street art =/= graffiti they aren't interchangeable terms graffiti has a focus on typography. stenciling isn't graffiti <cite>Epic-Vegan_420 posted [p:896033719] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Epic-Vegan_420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging</quote> Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags</quote> yeah i've never seen the million fucking tags littering LA or San Fran. nope. its all derivative. there is actual street art; this aint it.</quote> most of those are throwies, none of them are tags tags are one color, usually one line even street art =/= graffiti they aren't interchangeable terms graffiti has a focus on typography. stenciling isn't graffiti</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 02/13/18 8:15:15 PM #34:	Epic-Vegan_420 posted... E32005 posted... the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags That's the same shit that's underneath bridges and on sides of railroad cars. --- https://i.imgur.com/akpEP6p.gif https://i.imgur.com/hVRNKNs.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:896033764] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>Epic-Vegan_420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging</quote> Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags</quote> That's the same shit that's underneath bridges and on sides of railroad cars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 02/13/18 8:15:20 PM #35:	Tagging is still considered art --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:896033770] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>Tagging is still considered art</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 02/13/18 8:15:53 PM #36:	The Admiral posted... Also, this isn't art. E32005 posted... the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:896033801] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Also, this isn't art. </quote> <cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 02/13/18 8:16:36 PM #37:	Read this earlier. The judge decided to make him pay because he painted over them before the previous ruling came in place. There was like a law that if the art attracted people or something like that, that you needed a permit before painting over it. The guy painted over it before he got the permit (which he did get btw) and thats why the judge ruled in favor of the artist. But continue to get upset because you dont understand the laws. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:896033833] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>Read this earlier. The judge decided to make him pay because he painted over them before the previous ruling came in place. There was like a law that if the art attracted people or something like that, that you needed a permit before painting over it. The guy painted over it before he got the permit (which he did get btw) and thats why the judge ruled in favor of the artist. But continue to get upset because you dont understand the laws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 02/13/18 8:17:29 PM #38:	This is not as simple as that article is trying to make it seem. This area has been a landmark for a long time. I'm not saying the ruling was necessarily correct, but there was clearly a lot more behind this than some guy removing vandalism and getting sued over it. It's deeper than that. Here's an article I found about the property and the owner. https://licpost.com/jerry-wolkoff-to-add-affordable-housing-art-studios-to-5-pointz-plan --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:896033885] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>This is not as simple as that article is trying to make it seem. This area has been a landmark for a long time. I'm not saying the ruling was necessarily correct, but there was clearly a lot more behind this than some guy removing vandalism and getting sued over it. It's deeper than that. Here's an article I found about the property and the owner. https://licpost.com/jerry-wolkoff-to-add-affordable-housing-art-studios-to-5-pointz-plan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrK3V 02/13/18 8:17:32 PM #39:	sktgamer_13dude posted... Read this earlier. The judge decided to make him pay because he painted over them before the previous ruling came in place. There was like a law that if the art attracted people or something like that, that you needed a permit before painting over it. The guy painted over it before he got the permit (which he did get btw) and thats why the judge ruled in favor of the artist. But continue to get upset because you dont understand the laws. Ah. Dumb building owner lol --- Bangers https://open.spotify.com/user/1226504071/playlist/3X4SSY5tgxTTgdwlkmoH9F <cite>MrK3V posted [p:896033888] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Read this earlier. The judge decided to make him pay because he painted over them before the previous ruling came in place. There was like a law that if the art attracted people or something like that, that you needed a permit before painting over it. The guy painted over it before he got the permit (which he did get btw) and thats why the judge ruled in favor of the artist. But continue to get upset because you dont understand the laws.</quote> Ah. Dumb building owner lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Epic-Vegan_420 02/13/18 8:18:19 PM #40:	DirkDiggles posted... Epic-Vegan_420 posted... E32005 posted... the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags That's the same shit that's underneath bridges and on sides of railroad cars. these are tags: this is a mural: graffiti terminology, now u know <cite>Epic-Vegan_420 posted [p:896033921] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Epic-Vegan_420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>the only one that looks like art is the Biggie pic the rest are just standard tagging</quote> Yeah, you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about Those aren't tags</quote> That's the same shit that's underneath bridges and on sides of railroad cars.</quote> these are tags: this is a mural: graffiti terminology, now u know</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 02/13/18 8:19:01 PM #41:	yo that biggie looks awesome --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m League Summoner Name: DontIoseYourWay (the I is an i) <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:896033959] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>yo that biggie looks awesome</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 02/13/18 8:19:56 PM #42:	It's art even if you don't like it. However it's absolutely asinine the owner of this property is being ordered to pay money to people who vandalized his property for wanting to repaint it. --- This life is just a game we play, that we can never win. But don't give up, no don't give up. <cite>Error1355 posted [p:896034021] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>It's art even if you don't like it. However it's absolutely asinine the owner of this property is being ordered to pay money to people who vandalized his property for wanting to repaint it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 02/13/18 8:20:11 PM #43:	What has our judicial system come to? I say we wipe the board and start over from scratch with judges who actually have a functioning brain and education. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:896034031] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote>What has our judicial system come to? I say we wipe the board and start over from scratch with judges who actually have a functioning brain and education.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Newhopes 02/13/18 8:20:52 PM #44:	sktgamer_13dude posted... Read this earlier. The judge decided to make him pay because he painted over them before the previous ruling came in place. There was like a law that if the art attracted people or something like that, that you needed a permit before painting over it. The guy painted over it before he got the permit (which he did get btw) and thats why the judge ruled in favor of the artist. But continue to get upset because you dont understand the laws. Who gives two fs about that, this is infringement of property rights and gives free reign to vandals to vandalise any property they want. <cite>Newhopes posted [p:896034067] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Read this earlier. The judge decided to make him pay because he painted over them before the previous ruling came in place. There was like a law that if the art attracted people or something like that, that you needed a permit before painting over it. The guy painted over it before he got the permit (which he did get btw) and thats why the judge ruled in favor of the artist. But continue to get upset because you dont understand the laws.</quote> Who gives two fs about that, this is infringement of property rights and gives free reign to vandals to vandalise any property they want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 02/13/18 8:21:21 PM #45:	Error1355 posted... It's art even if you don't like it. However it's absolutely asinine the owner of this property is being ordered to pay money to people who vandalized his property for wanting to repaint it. Its because he didnt wait for the permit to go through. He literally got approved for it after the fact. If he would have waited the extra time, there wouldnt have been a case against him. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:896034091] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>Error1355 posted...</cite> <quote>It's art even if you don't like it. However it's absolutely asinine the owner of this property is being ordered to pay money to people who vandalized his property for wanting to repaint it.</quote> Its because he didnt wait for the permit to go through. He literally got approved for it after the fact. If he would have waited the extra time, there wouldnt have been a case against him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cal12 02/13/18 8:21:34 PM #46:	sktgamer_13dude posted... Read this earlier. The judge decided to make him pay because he painted over them before the previous ruling came in place. There was like a law that if the art attracted people or something like that, that you needed a permit before painting over it. The guy painted over it before he got the permit (which he did get btw) and thats why the judge ruled in favor of the artist. But continue to get upset because you dont understand the laws. The judge is trying to apply a specific law to a privately owned building. The permission he was talking about was the owner painting the building while he was waiting for the demo permits. He literally is super offended in his decision that this guy denied fans 10 months to admire the building before he destroyed it. This isnt a historical landmark in a true sense and should have no protection. <cite>Cal12 posted [p:896034102] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Read this earlier. The judge decided to make him pay because he painted over them before the previous ruling came in place. There was like a law that if the art attracted people or something like that, that you needed a permit before painting over it. The guy painted over it before he got the permit (which he did get btw) and thats why the judge ruled in favor of the artist. But continue to get upset because you dont understand the laws.</quote> The judge is trying to apply a specific law to a privately owned building. The permission he was talking about was the owner painting the building while he was waiting for the demo permits. He literally is super offended in his decision that this guy denied fans 10 months to admire the building before he destroyed it. This isnt a historical landmark in a true sense and should have no protection.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Epic-Vegan_420 02/13/18 8:22:00 PM #47:	Newhopes posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... Read this earlier. The judge decided to make him pay because he painted over them before the previous ruling came in place. There was like a law that if the art attracted people or something like that, that you needed a permit before painting over it. The guy painted over it before he got the permit (which he did get btw) and thats why the judge ruled in favor of the artist. But continue to get upset because you dont understand the laws. Who gives two fs about that, this is infringement of property rights and gives free reign to vandals to vandalise any property they want. Nah, it really doesn't 5Pointz is the most famous graffiti spot on the fucking planet and people have been protesting its demolition for years now It ain't like this is just some random building <cite>Epic-Vegan_420 posted [p:896034127] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>Newhopes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Read this earlier. The judge decided to make him pay because he painted over them before the previous ruling came in place. There was like a law that if the art attracted people or something like that, that you needed a permit before painting over it. The guy painted over it before he got the permit (which he did get btw) and thats why the judge ruled in favor of the artist. But continue to get upset because you dont understand the laws.</quote> Who gives two fs about that, this is infringement of property rights and gives free reign to vandals to vandalise any property they want.</quote> Nah, it really doesn't 5Pointz is the most famous graffiti spot on the fucking planet and people have been protesting its demolition for years now It ain't like this is just some random building</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 02/13/18 8:22:07 PM #48:	Newhopes posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... Read this earlier. The judge decided to make him pay because he painted over them before the previous ruling came in place. There was like a law that if the art attracted people or something like that, that you needed a permit before painting over it. The guy painted over it before he got the permit (which he did get btw) and thats why the judge ruled in favor of the artist. But continue to get upset because you dont understand the laws. Who gives two fs about that, this is infringement of property rights and gives free reign to vandals to vandalise any property they want. So do you want people to follow the law or not? Or only when it fits your narrative? If you dont like the law, change it. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:896034134] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>Newhopes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Read this earlier. The judge decided to make him pay because he painted over them before the previous ruling came in place. There was like a law that if the art attracted people or something like that, that you needed a permit before painting over it. The guy painted over it before he got the permit (which he did get btw) and thats why the judge ruled in favor of the artist. But continue to get upset because you dont understand the laws.</quote> Who gives two fs about that, this is infringement of property rights and gives free reign to vandals to vandalise any property they want.</quote> So do you want people to follow the law or not? Or only when it fits your narrative? If you dont like the law, change it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 02/13/18 8:23:02 PM #49:	The Admiral posted... Also, this isn't art. what definition of "art" are you using? --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:896034171] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Also, this isn't art. </quote> what definition of "art" are you using?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 02/13/18 8:24:03 PM #50:	boxington posted... The Admiral posted... Also, this isn't art. what definition of "art" are you using? if The_Admiral doesnt like it its not art --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m League Summoner Name: DontIoseYourWay (the I is an i) <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:896034223] in Man cleans... [t:76316327]...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Also, this isn't art. </quote> what definition of "art" are you using?</quote> if The_Admiral doesnt like it its not art</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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