Current Events > Trump gets cuck'd by courts again, must restore DACA in full.

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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/13/court-orders-full-restoration-daca-program/

Looks like another case where Trump's Twitter account is being used against him.
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wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo
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Yay for the Dreamers :)
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SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay
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SlugSh0t posted...

imo

It's a good thing nobody gives a shit about that, I guess.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

imo

It's a good thing nobody gives a shit about that, I guess.

Except you do, thus why you quoted him
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KingCrabCake posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay

Unfortunate that their very presence is a violation of the law, making every single one of them a criminal.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay

Unfortunate that their very presence is a violation of the law, making every single one of them a criminal.

Somebody go tell the courts that!
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ThePrinceFish posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay

Unfortunate that their very presence is a violation of the law, making every single one of them a criminal.

Cool. You know what i mean
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KingCrabCake posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay

no, they are not entitled to a US citizens rights. Deport them. If you were a salvadoran in say mexico you know what they do? they kick them out. teach them their own ways
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KingCrabCake posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay

Unfortunate that their very presence is a violation of the law, making every single one of them a criminal.

Cool. You know what i mean

Imagine having to resort to emotion instead of law to determine the fate of criminals. What a world.
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KingCrabCake posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay

Unfortunate that their very presence is a violation of the law, making every single one of them a criminal.

Cool. You know what i mean

Then you should say what you mean rather than subtly trying to alter the meaning of words like some kind of leftist.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay

See, rational compromise like this is why you're a supporter, not a cultist

Eh there's a shitload of things trump does i hate...this food shit for example
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Following the law to a T would be impractical and unhelpful in a number of situations, not just immigration. Deporting the Dreamers doesn't have a public interest that merits its cruelty, IMO.

Unless you support fines for everybody who goes 5 mph over the speed limit and jail time for internet pirates, you don't believe in the absolutist vision of the law you claim ITT
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ThePrinceFish posted...

Unfortunate that their very presence is a violation of the law, making every single one of them a criminal.

@ThePrinceFish

Unlawful presence is a civil offense, not a criminal one.
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#Stormfaqs
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Antifar posted...

Following the law to a T would be impractical and unhelpful in a number of situations, not just immigration. Deporting the Dreamers doesn't have a public interest that merits its cruelty, IMO.

Unless you support fines for everybody who goes 5 mph over the speed limit and jail time for internet pirates, you don't believe in the absolutist vision of the law you claim ITT

I like how you equate illegally entering a country with downloading a song.
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Uncle Choad posted...

I like how you equate illegally entering a country with downloading a song.

Unlawful presence and speeding are both civil offenses.
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Uncle Choad posted...

Antifar posted...

Following the law to a T would be impractical and unhelpful in a number of situations, not just immigration. Deporting the Dreamers doesn't have a public interest that merits its cruelty, IMO.

Unless you support fines for everybody who goes 5 mph over the speed limit and jail time for internet pirates, you don't believe in the absolutist vision of the law you claim ITT

I like how you equate illegally entering a country with downloading a song.

If theyre being productive and noncriminals then lets fastlane them to citizenship so they can be even more productive
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>Democrat appointee legislating from the bench

What else is new
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Uncle Choad posted...

I like how you equate illegally entering a country with downloading a song.

The law is the law.
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CableZL posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

Unfortunate that their very presence is a violation of the law, making every single one of them a criminal.

@ThePrinceFish

Unlawful presence is a civil offense, not a criminal one.

You got me there. And what is the penalty for unlawful presence for greater than one year?

Is it citizenship? Or do they bar the shit out of you for violating immigration law?
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ThePrinceFish posted...

Is it citizenship?

Usually.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

Is it citizenship?

Usually.

Wow they should really rewrite the INA to put that in there then because the INA that I'm reading actually lists out consequences. Huh.
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KingCrabCake posted...

Uncle Choad posted...

Antifar posted...

Following the law to a T would be impractical and unhelpful in a number of situations, not just immigration. Deporting the Dreamers doesn't have a public interest that merits its cruelty, IMO.

Unless you support fines for everybody who goes 5 mph over the speed limit and jail time for internet pirates, you don't believe in the absolutist vision of the law you claim ITT

I like how you equate illegally entering a country with downloading a song.

If theyre being productive and noncriminals then lets fastlane them to citizenship so they can be even more productive

I don't want to set a precedent for citizenship by breaking a law. It's too bad we don't have millions of conservative eastern Europeans here illegally as well.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

CableZL posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

Unfortunate that their very presence is a violation of the law, making every single one of them a criminal.

@ThePrinceFish

Unlawful presence is a civil offense, not a criminal one.

You got me there. And what is the penalty for unlawful presence for greater than one year?

Is it citizenship? Or do they bar the shit out of you for violating immigration law?

It's not citizenship, I'm sure, but we're still talking about people who were brought here as children and didn't really have much choice in the matter.
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KingCrabCake posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay

However, since they're here illegally, they're criminals.
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CableZL posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

CableZL posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

Unfortunate that their very presence is a violation of the law, making every single one of them a criminal.

@ThePrinceFish

Unlawful presence is a civil offense, not a criminal one.

You got me there. And what is the penalty for unlawful presence for greater than one year?

Is it citizenship? Or do they bar the shit out of you for violating immigration law?

It's not citizenship, I'm sure, but we're still talking about people who were brought here as children and didn't really have much choice in the matter.

We're still talking about people with no legal standing in a system that dictates what happens to people with no legal standing, yes. The law applies equally to every person no matter their sad life story.
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Crazyman93 posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay

However, since they're here illegally, they're criminals.

You've never gone over the speed limit?
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Webmaster4531 posted...

Crazyman93 posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay

However, since they're here illegally, they're criminals.

You've never gone over the speed limit?

If he got pulled over I imagine he wouldn't complain about how unfair the speeding laws are and how he shouldn't be held to them
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ThePrinceFish posted...

We're still talking about people with no legal standing in a system that dictates what happens to people with no legal standing, yes. The law applies equally to every person no matter their sad life story.

In an ideal world, maybe, but you and I both know that the law doesn't get applied to every person equally.
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CableZL posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

We're still talking about people with no legal standing in a system that dictates what happens to people with no legal standing, yes. The law applies equally to every person no matter their sad life story.

In an ideal world, maybe, but you and I both know that the law doesn't get applied to every person equally.

True. The rich are disgustingly coddled and held to different standards. This angers me as well.
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You know what if the children are allowed to stay, I say deport the parents. They are the likely ones who broke the law more than once(getting themselves and children in the US).
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CableZL posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

We're still talking about people with no legal standing in a system that dictates what happens to people with no legal standing, yes. The law applies equally to every person no matter their sad life story.

In an ideal world, maybe, but you and I both know that the law doesn't get applied to every person equally.

That's what you get when you forget about adding points to Luck.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

Crazyman93 posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay

However, since they're here illegally, they're criminals.

You've never gone over the speed limit?

If he got pulled over I imagine he wouldn't complain about how unfair the speeding laws are and how he shouldn't be held to them

What about the times he got a pass from the cop?
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Good. The trolls won't be happy though.

ThePrinceFish posted...

True. The rich are disgustingly coddled and held to different standards. This angers me as well.

It's not even just rich people. I've been pulled over for driving 73 mph in a 55 mph zone. The cop used his discretion to let me off with a warning. Not everyone would get that.
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SlugSh0t posted...

You know what if the children are allowed to stay, I say deport the parents. They are the likely ones who broke the law more than once(getting themselves and children in the US).

And then we'll pay for the kid, and pay someone to take care of the kid, and pay for them to stay somewhere, then pay for school and other shit that responsible (and legal) parents save up for themselves.
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CableZL posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

True. The rich are disgustingly coddled and held to different standards. This angers me as well.

It's not even just rich people. I've been pulled over for driving 73 mph in a 55 mph zone. The cop used his discretion to let me off with a warning. Not everyone would get that.

The rich have access to the 'interpretation' parts of our laws through expensive lawyers. Part of everyone hates this, but I'm glad our laws are written this way.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

wont work, illegals are illegals deport them imo

If they have good grades, or working and not a criminal...they can stay

Unfortunate that their very presence is a violation of the law, making every single one of them a criminal.

In the same way that everyone who jaywalks is a criminal.
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Our police and justice system already make decisions on what issues are priorities and which things are not. You can say that the deportation of dreamers would just be a cold application of law, but the law isn't coldly applied. And nor is it above criticism.
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Uncle Choad posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

You know what if the children are allowed to stay, I say deport the parents. They are the likely ones who broke the law more than once(getting themselves and children in the US).

And then we'll pay for the kid, and pay someone to take care of the kid, and pay for them to stay somewhere, then pay for school and other shit that responsible (and legal) parents save up for themselves.

Im talking about grown kids. Ones whove been here say 20+ years, which is around what I feel needs to be an estimate to be a part of daca. Ones who recently entered should be deported as any other illegal as the been here their entire lives argument no longer applies.
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Uncle Choad posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Uncle Choad posted...

Antifar posted...

Following the law to a T would be impractical and unhelpful in a number of situations, not just immigration. Deporting the Dreamers doesn't have a public interest that merits its cruelty, IMO.

Unless you support fines for everybody who goes 5 mph over the speed limit and jail time for internet pirates, you don't believe in the absolutist vision of the law you claim ITT

I like how you equate illegally entering a country with downloading a song.

If theyre being productive and noncriminals then lets fastlane them to citizenship so they can be even more productive

I don't want to set a precedent for citizenship by breaking a law. It's too bad we don't have millions of conservative eastern Europeans here illegally as well.

Theyre here and been here for years. No reason to kick out the good ones.
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SlugSh0t posted...

Uncle Choad posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

You know what if the children are allowed to stay, I say deport the parents. They are the likely ones who broke the law more than once(getting themselves and children in the US).

And then we'll pay for the kid, and pay someone to take care of the kid, and pay for them to stay somewhere, then pay for school and other shit that responsible (and legal) parents save up for themselves.

Im talking about grown kids. Ones whove been here say 20+ years, which is around what I feel needs to be an estimate to be a part of daca. Ones who recently entered should be deported as any other illegal as the been here their entire lives argument no longer applies.

They should be more than capable of figuring their situation out, then.
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KingCrabCake posted...

Uncle Choad posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Uncle Choad posted...

Antifar posted...

Following the law to a T would be impractical and unhelpful in a number of situations, not just immigration. Deporting the Dreamers doesn't have a public interest that merits its cruelty, IMO.

Unless you support fines for everybody who goes 5 mph over the speed limit and jail time for internet pirates, you don't believe in the absolutist vision of the law you claim ITT

I like how you equate illegally entering a country with downloading a song.

If theyre being productive and noncriminals then lets fastlane them to citizenship so they can be even more productive

I don't want to set a precedent for citizenship by breaking a law. It's too bad we don't have millions of conservative eastern Europeans here illegally as well.

Theyre here and been here for years. No reason to kick out the good ones.

There is definitely a compromise to be had there.
I don't see any 'deal' being made that immediately halts all illegal immigration into the USA after a certain date, nor do I see an implementation of that.
All I see is a precedent being set for illegally obtaining citizenship (and the next generation of a voter base).
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Uncle Choad posted...

All I see is a precedent being set for illegally obtaining citizenship (and the next generation of a voter base).

Illegally obtaining citizenship, you say? They wouldn't be able to obtain citizenship illegally.

They aren't dastardly villains tricking the government into making them citizens.
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Right, a pathway to citizenship would by definition be a legal one.
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CableZL posted...

Uncle Choad posted...

All I see is a precedent being set for illegally obtaining citizenship (and the next generation of a voter base).

Illegally obtaining citizenship, you say? They wouldn't be able to obtain citizenship illegally.

Sure they can. They got here illegally, and obtained citizenship by being here. Unless you're talking about the way I worded it, and you should know that's not what I mean.
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But I guess that's along the same vein as people thinking Barack Obama pulled a fast one on the US government and got elected president twice while not being born in the US
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