Board 8 > I want MWC to explain the Kingdom Hearts story start to finish [spoilers]

(+) Yeah! (+)

Sorry. Really wanted to get to the fights last night...

But I was just so disappointed after USA hockey inwent to sleep instead.

Bump still.
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DOING IT RIGHT NIlW

oh dear
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Three hours have passed.

Think he's okay?
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So when we last left our merry band of idiots the spy was invited to the meeting of overthrowing the emperor... maybe Nomura was trying to do a commentary on Caesar or something.. I don't know.

Invi responds the Master gave each of them a different role then specifically told them to keep their Unions separate to maintain balance of power...

Ok, what? Even in the fake world, even with these idiots that doesn't make sense. Somehow the balance of power wouldn't be maintained if you helped each other's task, mind you they are a GROUP in charge, so if they are a group and that group has a leader, but they aren't supposed to do anything with other Unions.....

WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF THE GROUP?!!! How did no one ask any of these questions ever...?

She then goes on to finish that any combing imbalance of power would lead to desire for more power which leads to darkness... ok. What? So, either we are to believe that all 5 armies are to be EXACTLY the same size and skill level at all times (an impossibility) or we are to believe that... YOUR MASTER IS BEHIND ALL THIS!!! I don't know which is more likely.
Let's find out.

She then accuses Aced of being trainted by darkness, so you can throw out everything I jokingly said earlier about her being the only remotely not dumb one... (in her defense, he did organize antreason meeting against the dude who's totally pounding her...)

Aced of course takes this accusation of the worst thing imaginable in KHs rationally...

Oh, nope, just fucking kidding!

Aced then responds back that she spys on them, (ok, so he knows?) and then reports everything back to Ira, and that has no doubt caused darkness in her heart.

She argues that is her role (so they do know each other roles then right, nope... not all of them. How the fuck anyone didn't see through the MoM is a topic that someone needs to do on Reddit or KHInsider before III comes out), which it is. Sorta.

Aced pointo out her role is to observe them, not disclose everything they say and do back to Ira. Ok, so, to his credit, he's making sense here... howver....

HE LITERALLY INVITED HER HERE, AND NOW WE FIND OUT THAT HE ALREADY KNEW SHE WAS SAYING EVERYTHING THEY ARE DOING BACK TO IRA? Then why invite her you dumbass bear mask wearing idiot!?????!!!!

Anyway, he says for all they know Ira and Invi could be allies scheming behind their backs (good thing you invited her then, am I right?!). This leads to a sigh and a close up from Ava, this moment is probably the start of the path to the Apocalypse this incredibly dumb girl is going to doom us to. (Besides her being born of course)

We see Ava alone at the fountain, asking when will it stop, and she doesn't want them to hurt each other. (Keep that in mind...). We then meet Ephemer. I have no reason to talk about him during Back Cover, just know when I talk about UX and X he's a huge deal. It's probably not important, but "Friend's in my Heart" plays here. Doubt it means anything, but it is an absoltely massive song in this series, best known (I would guess) for being the track that plays when Roxas and Namine join Kairi and Sora again at end of KHII. Anywho, Ava asks him if Ephemer remembers what he asked her previously, why the Unions compete against each other instead of working together (smart kid), and she admits she always wondered the same thing... ok, so, she knows this is stupid, counter productive and borderline suicidal, and yet still does it?... sure. Let's go with that. Ephemer points out it's just cause the Master said so.

And here we finally get down to the truth.

"Yes, and as such we must obey, the Master said it so it is." Forget father figure, they treat him like god. It does make the rest of these 3 games and the end of the world make slightly more sense. At least Ava (and probably the others) constantly fought back against their own questions.

She even says she's beginning to question. She says Ephirim wanted to find answers, solve the mysteries of this world. She agrees and says that's how things should be, they need to questions things and think for themselves. (Horrible idea for her). Anyway, Ephirim says she's not herself today, and even Foretellers (that's what the 5 are called) have offdays, he then tries to get her to tell him about the Book
Of Prophcies by tricking her (worth a shot) but she figures it out and says he was trying to pull a fast one on her (nothing gets by Ava). He says no, honest, and she just believes him... (god damn it Ava!)

She says it wouod he great if all the Unions could work together and be friends. Speaking of, Ephirim made a friend in another Union today, (wonder who it could be) they are meeting up again tomorrow, and Ava says that sounds like fun. Ephirim leaves and Ava laments if the worst happens she'll be glad to leave the future to kids who see the world like he does.

She then begs the wind to carry her Dandelions far far away. That's important to note.

Invi returns to Ira who asks her if she's learned anything, and she immediately tells Ira that Aced and Gula's Unions allied (again, this is NOT true). Ira reacts to this calm and... fuck it, I'm not even joking about these idiots anymore....

Ira instantly goes full dumb ass and menacingly declares Aced the traitor after all... ok. First off, no, second off, why couldn't Gula be the traitor, why is it auto Aced?

Invi says she doesn't believe he is (THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU ACCUSE HIM OF IT IN THE MEETING!???) and they to Aced Unification is just a way to get stronger to oppose the darkness. And that his heart still belongs to light.

Ira gets up and slams the book and starts yelling that "Forming alliances was strictly forbidden by the Master"

Invi says "yes, and his teachings are absolute." (Getting some real Waco vibes here....) She says she will try to persuade Gula to dissolve the Alliance. Ira says he will do it, and Invi begs him let her do the talking. (She knows he's an idiot), as himself intervention won't do anything except make Aced even angrier. Ira leaves it to her. She continues on.

"Aced has begun to question the two of us" (he knows Ira's hitting it, making it unfair for everyone else) and as a precaution her "reports" will be less frequent. She doesn't want him to get the wrong idea, and she begs Ira to understand. Ira questioning where else he can find some high school chick into mask play that he can nail on the side when Invi is not coming around as much sits down and contemplates life reading his version of the Book of Prophecies.

And we come to our first major time skip.

Forward 3 months and Aced and Gula walk into a building, and Gula just casually says he thinks he's done. Aced is confused by this (as are we) and asks him done with what. To which Gula replies the alliance. Aced asks why. Gula says because he only did it because he thought they were gonna fight some impending darkness, but it hasn't come.
(That's right kids, if the Apocalypse is ever on the way and doesn't arrive in 3 months, it's never happening apparently.), to his credit though, the rest does make sense. He says there haven't been any suspicious incidents recently and Gula hasn't ralied anyone else to his cause. Gula says the Alliance is meaningless, even Invi agrees... (god damn it) he nearly catches himself but it's too late. Aced yells Invi? The Gula says "uhoh, you weren't supposed to find out" (making it seem like he did it on purpose) and Aced wants to know if Invi was the one who told him to break the Alliance. He says maybe, but it wasn't his decision and he gave him the reasons. Aced grabs him and lifts him up and says they don't know who the traitor is yet, and Gula says that's exactly why he's breaking it off.

Things are getting good.

Bump

Gonna catch myself up on this now. I was away for a few days.
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I still haven't watched Backcover for some reason so I wasn't gonna read it's summary but it's still going after like a week. X_X
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Bunp

Is anyone else just completely blown away by the amount of like, weird shit they decided to include in this story?

Like this blows any Final Fantasy game out the water, and some of them are pretty weird. Ex Death is a tree.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Ex Death is a tree.

And he shapeshifts into a thorn to infiltrate the party.
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tag
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I havent seen Back Cover yet (no PS4), so this is all fascinating.

I am at least caught up on Union and have to say I did not expect Sterlitzias story to go the way it did.
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Work and UK game tonight, try to do after.

Have any Disney characters been mentioned yet or is it all just Square Enix bullshit so far?
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OliviaTremor posted...

Have any Disney characters been mentioned yet or is it all just Square Enix bullshit so far?

the latter
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You spend a good chunk of KHUX's early story searching for Abu....yeah....
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Who is in charge of writing these stories?
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Who is in charge of writing these stories?

I know Nomura was a large part of Backcover. I don't know how much say he has on UX etc...

FinalistCloud posted...

ExThaNemesis posted...

Who is in charge of writing these stories?

I know Nomura was a large part of Backcover. I don't know how much say he has on UX etc...

But thinking about it.... he has to have much more of a say in UX and stuff then I thought yesterday. If things we've heard are true he's known who the 13 and 7 were supposed to be for 8 years now. Which means Marluxia, and his somebody, so for Lauriam to show up in UX a month or so before the III trailer that showed him can't be a coincidence. I believe Nomura has far more say in the mobile games then thought.

Gula says he can't trust anyone but himself (dumb thing to say) and Aced points out they can't beat the darkness on their own (didn't stop Riku and Sora... ameteurs, lol) and Gula once again is like, fuck off, don't care.

At this point in time you're probably not shocked, but Aced threatens that he'll destroy Invi for this. (Man, this is one great group of leaders...)

Case of Aced:

And now to see how the big dumb bear became what we see. Aced enters the MoM's chambers. MoM comes traipsing in and is all "you been here long? My bad". I love him. And he asks what he wanted, Aced is like did you forget you called me here, and MoM also tells him he was just fucking with him too. He then tells him his role. "You're gonna be Ira's right hand man". Aced's like "what"? Ira's right hand man, what do you mean?

"Well, Ira's gonna be the new leader after I'm gone see, just stand by him, don't disappoint (he's says the last part flippantly) Aced wants to know what he means by Ira being the new leader (yeah, that was pretty subtle, I could get how that could get lost in translation). And MoM goes full asshole now. "What? Is that disappointment I hear?" Did YOU want to be leader" Aced goes into full denial like, "no, if you had asked me sure, but I wasn't trying to".

"You REALLY wanna be leader, huh"? Aced finally admits, and then MoM needles him by being like duh, I'm not an idiot, I know you want it, but that just isn't enough. Any chump can say "You!, here's a huge promotion. Good job!" (And he gives a thumbs up) Then he tells him enthusiasm alone doesn't make you a great leader, and Ira needs someone like you to push him in the right direction.

"I agree, Ira is definitely the most worthy among us" he says with his words paused, a crack in his voice and anger in his eyes, clearly he doesn't have confidence on this one. And he agrees he'd make a fine leader.

"Then its settled" (god he's great)

Aced points out yeah Ira is worthy, but why do they even need a new leader (he makes a fine point, though maybe it in the way he meant), and if that means he'll no longer be teaching them. MoM again points out he may disappear one day. Aced doesn't react, MoM is surprised and says it again, this time flailing his arms and putting huge emphasis on the word "disappear" this time it clicks with Aced who's like, how, why, where? MoM has one of his best reactions ever. He laments

"Speak up sooner if you're listening. That was embarrassing for me!" He doesn't know if he's gonna disappear or not, it's anyone's guess right now. Either way, he needs to support Ira though, and he points directly at Aced. He is afterall quite serious, always thinking behind his Unicorn mask. So he needs Aced to spur the thinker into action. He says you might not be happy with your role, but just to know it's the most important one. (This is a lie. Ava's is) and then we get to the crux.

"Making Ira the leader is all good in theory, but sometime later you might think 'he's terrible at this' in which case it'll be your job to step up." (I can't even begin to explain why this was a horrible thing. Should Ben obvious) He then explains his leadership might be just what everyone needs. And THAT is your true role. Needless to say Aced is now just waiting to commit Regicide.... Anyway, we close with the guiding key shit again, and him being wished best of luck.

Cut to a few months later (after Gula and Aced split) and we see Aced saying it's been over a year since the Master left, time to fulfill his true role. And that starts with killing Invi. We see Aced attack her on top of a building with his Keyblade. She has no choice but to quit running away, summon her Keyblade and fight back. She does, they both do really powerful cool shit (like cut a dimension) and Aced wins.

She is disarmed, and, well, helpless. But Aced is also an idiot, so before he kills her he asks why she got in his way. She's like don't be so conceited, I only did what the Master told me, trying to keep the balance. And we see Gula leaning on a wall out of view of these two. Aced points out that if they don't defy the Master's teachings light will expire, and Invi's like, you're saying he was wrong, Aced prepares his Keyblade for the final blow and screams he's not here anymore, and he won't let the world fall to darkness. Now Aced could have just done any physical attack and killed her, but the damn idiot did a magic shot instead, which gave her time to jump resummon her Keyblade, turn his MASSIVE fire cross to water, jump through the water X she did use that as a temporary distraction for an instant to get behind him and have a Keyblade strike clash. Which she wins. Injuring Aced. (You need to watch the video, I really can't do this scene justice)
Anywho, Ava is chasing a dream eater, and Gula sees her, thinks his cover is about to be blown and yells at her to come over as if he wasn't there the whole time. Ava runs to and asks Aced and Invi what's going on as Invi closes in for the killing blow. Invi says she found out who the traitor is, regrettably. Ava denies this, and Gula yells there is no time to lose as he summons his Keyblade, and she finally regrettably does as well. All 3 turn their weapons on Aced. He then says the guiding key shit to himself and charges at them. Cut to scene. We see the aftermath of their destruction, and we see Gula in an alleyway with the missing page. Well... that escalated quickly. Speaking of Gula.

Case of Gula: Gula enters the MoM's Chambers and he's oohing and awing and just gunuinely being creepy, and Gulas like, if you're busy I can come back later. MoM instantly says "sure" then he goes, "wait, no no no, stay". lol He continues looking through his book and then rips out a page, and gives it to Gula who is confused. Gen tells him to read it, and Gula says it's from the Book of Prophecies. And MoM tells him yes, but it's not in any of your books. Gula asks what is written here. MoM tells him it's his role. His role is to find the traitor, and stop them, before it's too late. And the way to help them find the traitor is that page. Gula's like,
I get it, that's why you gave us all different roles isn't it? If anyone differentiates from the job they are given it's easy to find the traitor. MoM is just mad he stole his thunder and calls him a show off. Gula is confused, and MoM's words are

"It's not fair, My plan was supposed to blow your mind with its grandeur. Your jaw should have hit the floor at my sheer genius" Gula responds perfectly.

"I'm... sorry?" (The question mark is there on subtitles)

He asked if his logic was flawed, and MoM tells him he is right, and that he earned his time in the limelight. And this next part is the first serious thing he says the whole movie.

He drops all laughter, joy, sarcasm, anything else from giant voice and deadly serious says

"Even though there is a traitor,act normal and keep focused, trust no one but yourself" End scene.

Back to Gula alone in the alley, he says once again to himself to trust no one but himself.

We see Aced crippled laying down in a corner, and Gula comes towards him. Aced says "Gula". And Gula asks him if he wants to know what his role is?. The books they were given were incomplete, there is a lost page, on that page it is written there is a traitor, the Master told me (Gula summons his Keyblade) to find and stop the traitor. Aced gets PISSED... He stands up, I don't care if you think it's me and you want to strike me down, you KNEW there was a traitor and you just watched in silence as we all fought each other. Gula tells him he (Aced) can barely stand an s to give up. Aced keeps coming at him though.

I kind of love how much this is taking just to get through Back Cover. I was expecting that movie to answer a bunch of questions and hoo boy was it a mess.

@ChampionCloud I might be getting a bit ahead of your summary so you can feel free to ignore or address it later, but what is the significance of the Gazing Eye appearing on Way to the Dawn and a bunch of other keyblades? Shouldn't it technically only appear on No Name + its variants?
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This is such a convoluted mess.

I love it.

MWC you are a gem for doing this all for us.

Someone archive this. Please.
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And we're still on back cover lmao
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Aced gets pissed about being underestimated and summons his Keyblade to attack, even if he is wounded. Gula attempts to block. The dumbest of them all comes running in in time to see Aced strike Gula down. Ava gets in front of Gula before Aced can land the fatal blow and begs him to stop, Aced is about to kill them both when he sighs and puts his Keyblade back into hammer space....he looks at her with disdain and says her too? Then he limps out of the shack they were in still very injured. Ava picks up Gula's almost completely limp body, he can barely stand and can't at all without leaning fully onto Ava. And then the dumb person asks why it had to come to this, and you can see the gears turning in her head... (this is the beginning of the end).

Aced is limping down a street, and he looks up and sees Ira leaning by the stairs. At this juncture Aced pretty much can't even hope to fight, and just says since you've come to finish me off just make it quick, and limps down and collapses to his knees. Ira says that is not why he is here today, he just wishes to fulfill the role bestowed upon him by the MoM (you know, leader).

Ira says it isn't their place to try to change the events of the future (reminder.... that is EXACTLY why you were made leader...) they are just there to make sure light goes on after. He then says with only 5 lights (Personal opinion Ava is too dim to be called a light, how bout 4 lights and a good person) they can't afforded to lose any now.

Aced asks that Ira still counts him as one of the five lights, and Ira confirms it. Aced talks of only Ira could be such a good guy after everything they've been through. (He's not kidding, Aced literally ambushed and tried to kill the girl he was fucking in the dead of night, truly a Bros before hoes story for the ages). They hug and Aced says that's one of the reasons he respects him so much. Aced then says they still may only be 4, and then says Gula is using the knowledge of something called "the lost page"that it has events missing from all of their books, and he's using it to discover and apprehend whoever the traitor is (why is this a bad thing? Why is eveyone so dumb!?) that he says that was his role. But we don't know what his real intentions are. He does say howver there is no going back for him, he will NEVER forgive Gula for hiding the fact someone wouod betray them. That is the biggest betrayal of all. Ira being at least kinda adept at leading days he'd like to believe Gula was simply carrying out his role, and tells Aced he'll deal with this, and also to keep it to himself. (Should be easy, he and Ava and DEFINITELY he and Invi probably aren't on the best speaking terms right now) He understands and Ira goes up the stairs and as he's walking away says he needs to see that lost page.

Cut to a few days later.
Ava is screaming at Invi why did she tell Ira, that she knows it was her because Invi was the only one who knew where they were hiding at that current time. And her actions surely made things worse than they already were.

Invi responds why should that even bother Ava, she has her own Union but she also took all the best Keyblade weilders from other Unions, and she's training them in a secret location. Ava screams.

"Yes, because that is my role!"

Invi is shocked and says she had no idea. (That should be the subtitle for Backcover. Kingdom Hearts Backcover: I had no idea) she says she is sorry and she overstepped. Ava says she shouldn't have snapped at her. Invi asks what Ira wanted, (meaning she did not ask Ira what he needed their location for when she gave them their location....) and Ava's like, I don't know, he just asked me to give up Gula. His eyes were scary and she was worried he'd do something awful. (Again, their mask eyes can show emotion, don't know how, they just can) she couldn't tell him where Gula was, and he turned around and walked away.

Invi asks how Gula is doing, Ava says she doesn't know, as he's gone. Cut to scene. We see a dream eater running frantically down streets and stairs, and he arrives where Gula and Ava are staying, warning someone is coming, they are headed straight this way. Ava decides it's time to do something REALLY REALLY stupid. She tells the Dream Eater to take care of Gula, and she walks away from their hiding spot. She finds Ira and asks if anything is wrong. Ira stops her dead and is like, I know Gula is in this location, tell me where he is. She asks what he's gonna do, Ira
Says that doesn't concern her, and then she runs ahead of Ira to stop her and yells don't. Ira is shocked at this. She yells she won't let him near him, and STUNNINGLY, this ridiculously stupid plan of challenging Ira actually bought time, he says, so that it then, ok, I'll go. And walks back the other way. Ava returns to Gula to see him trying to crawl out (they never make this clear why) she ask she what he's doing, and Gula wants to know if everything is ok. She tells him Ira was here and he wanted her to give him up. Gula says he always knew it would inevitably come to this. Everyone wants to know about the lost page. Ava questions what it is too, and Gula tells her. And now we finally hear the passage.

"The one who bears the sigil"

That's it. Gula doesn't know what to make of it to be honest. His role is to find out who it is,
He thought it was Aced and went to confront him, and Aced kicked his ass...

Ava asks why he is telling her that, that she already has enough on her mind with the Masters teachings and her role. Gula holds her hand. (Note, lots of people think they too started hooking up after Gula got hurt and they went into hiding, I disagree, but don't blame anyone who does.) Gula says she always walks the straight and narrow and talks that he is a fool for basing his actions on the lost page. (Well, yeah, but in saying that you are saying the Master is wrong, yet you are still following him) That everything in the passage is ambiguous at best. (That's a clue... MoM bad.... you all are fools)

Oh yeah.... you know that Apocalypse that a bunch of dumb asses are gonna create I've kept alluding to. Well, here we go.

Gula says he has to find out what it means, he TIGHTLY grabs Ava's hand (again, there is enough circumstantial evidence for a hook up, especially with what follows after) and says he's gonna ask the Master. Ava astutely points out he's not here anymore. And Gula exclaims....

"I'm going to summon Kingdom Hearts"

Well.... fuck....

Ava is shocked at this, Gula continues, then he'll have no choice but to come back. Ava yells virtually pleading that summoning Kingdom Hearts is forbidden. Gula yells that's exactly why he must, the only way to get him back is to break the rules, (and now he's up on his knees inches from her and having both his hands tightly grasped around hers...maybe I was wrong...) that if things don't change all of existence is doomed! However in order to be able to do this, he needs Lux. (Gameplay mechanic)
He doesn't have nearly enough. He tells her she always does the right thing, and to help him with this. She says she knows he wants the Master to return, but he doesn't know how it will effect the rest of the world, the Master forbid it for a reason, (as she slowly caresses breaks apart, his grip, rubs his hands, then grabs them in between in both of hers this time.... holy shit... how did I ever miss this... they are totally together, this is literally more physical contact then anyone else in KH
Save for Belle and Beast...) She apologizes that she can't help him, and Gula understands. He stands up and limps away, tells her May her heart be her guiding key, and goes forward on his quest to destroy the world.

Cut to scene. Ava tells Invi Gula is collecting Lux. Invi says that explains why Ira and Aced are as well. (Dumbasses)

They are trying to maintain the balance. Invi astutely points out that isnt the balance they were supposed to keep, if everyone is collecting light for themselves, wielders will soon turn against one another, and that will lead to the Keyblade War. Ava points out then what is written in the book will happen, and she asks Invi what she is gonna do. Invi says she will ALSO gather Lux (WHY IS EVRYONE SO FUCKING DUMB!?)'because balance must be kept. Invi then instructs Ava to do the same. They must .... delay.... the inevitable (her words, not mine, I personally see like a thousand ways so far to stop the apocalypse). Ava thinks this is a good idea
(Come on, was there ever ANY doubt Ava would think this?) At least now we get to see why Ava thinks this.

Case of Ava: MoM tells Ava what is written in the last page of the book will happen. The entire world will be lost to Darkness. Ava wants to know if there is anything that can be done. She is the only hope of keeping light from expiring. Here is how she can do that. MoM tells her

1: Don't get involved in any battles
2: Forget the notion of Unions
3: Find Keyblade wielded a with potential
4: create an entirely separate organization
5: Let them fly to another world
6: THEY will keep the light alive.

Ava asks if she's the right person for this (well she had a Union and battled Aced so far... so I'm thinking no) MoM tells her point blank she is the ONLY person for this, and she says she understands. (To note, MoM does not crack one joke or lighten the mood the entire time there, it was all serious business) cut to scene.

We cut to Ava with her dandelions, telling them this may seem familiar, but it's not, soon a world made of dreams, they are the world's hope, a war will soon wage.

"Those who strive to protect the light will turn their weapons on their allies for the sake of loyalty to their own Unions. To be honest, I don't know how far I can guide all of you. What you must remember is that anyone can lose themselves to the darkness. However, there will be no winners; everything will be lost. Except, all of you who are the seeds of hope. When the time comes and there is war, you mustn't fight, but instead you must fly away from here to the world outside. This training is to help you fulfill this crucial task. The future is in all your hands-- as is this world's light. May your hearts be your guiding Key."

Case of Luxu:

Luxu calls the Keyblade the gazing eye, and MoM tells him that isn't what it is called, Luxu asks what then, MoM responds no name, and then Luxu misunderstanding calls it NoName
Inadvertently naming this most Ancient Keyblade. MoM then tells him that Keyblade does have an eye in it, MoM's eye to be exact. (This freaks out Luxu, understandably). Here is Luxu's role. Pass that Keyblade to an apprentice, and then he to his.... so that MoM's eye can see the future. This is how the book Of Prophecies was done. This proves that Luxu succeeded. He tells him he'll need to go alone, and that he needs to take this box and stay out of sight. He tells him to watch with his eyes how things go between the others and when the time is right go and do his thing. Luxu asks what's in it, MoM
Says it's a secret, then tells him he can never Ever open it. Luxu wants to know what's in it, he tells Luxu, (but not us) and Luxu asks why. And MoM menacingly says "you'll see"

We see Luxu on what looks to be the CrossRoads, and he says May his heart be his guiding Key, and that's it.

Backcover over!

Up next are the Union X stuff.

Any questions till then let me know.

so where's the cliffnotes version
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Lolo_Guru posted...

so where's the cliffnotes version

I'll do a cliffnotes version of all the prehistory stuff after doing Union X.
Although if you want a cliffnotes of just Backcover.

5 idiots were put in charge of the world. They then made every wrong decision imaginable to lead to the end of the world.

Xiahou Shake posted...

I kind of love how much this is taking just to get through Back Cover. I was expecting that movie to answer a bunch of questions and hoo boy was it a mess.

@ChampionCloud I might be getting a bit ahead of your summary so you can feel free to ignore or address it later, but what is the significance of the Gazing Eye appearing on Way to the Dawn and a bunch of other keyblades? Shouldn't it technically only appear on No Name + its variants?

I can answer it now or answer it later.
Up to you.

Now seems as good of a time as any seeing as we just got through the Case of Luxu! Hit me.
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Xiahou Shake posted...

I kind of love how much this is taking just to get through Back Cover. I was expecting that movie to answer a bunch of questions and hoo boy was it a mess.

@ChampionCloud I might be getting a bit ahead of your summary so you can feel free to ignore or address it later, but what is the significance of the Gazing Eye appearing on Way to the Dawn and a bunch of other keyblades? Shouldn't it technically only appear on No Name + its variants?

Reminder, this is all just theory, there is one prevailing thought and one much lesser agreed upon one. (Personally I think the second is interesting but dont think its a thing.

#1: All the gazing eyes (No Name, Foreteller blades, SoulEater/Way to Dawn, Chaos Ripper, End of Pain, Void Gear) are in action, hence why the book of prophecies knows things like the original KH. His apprentice might not have been in Monstro but Riku was.... Also all of them are either directly passed down though his line, or given when someone has a connection with Xehanort (I dont believe its a coincidence that Sora gets End of Pain while bearing the Sigil.)

#2: The 13 eyes (so far) will be connected to the 13 hearts of dark. This is interesting, but one problem I have is it counts SE and WTD, even though they are the same thing.... now if Riku Replica comes back.....

Kingdom Hearts X (chi): Fuck you everything was a dream, thx for your money, trolololololololololol. Signed Square Enix

Not even kidding. When SE decided to do Unchained X, they just said fuck it and made this game officially a dream so they could redo it in Unchained X.....

So with that said, next time we begin

Kingdom Hearts Unchained X (Chi) and its rebranding and continuing of the story, Kingdom Hearts Union X (Cross)

Be sure to include the player character searching for Abu.
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WhiteLens posted...

Be sure to include the player character searching for Abu.

Not sure How relevant that would be for ExTha

SSJMewtwo posted...

When SE decided to do Unchained X, they just said fuck it and made this game officially a dream so they could redo it in Unchained X.....

???
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pjbasis posted...

SSJMewtwo posted...

When SE decided to do Unchained X, they just said fuck it and made this game officially a dream so they could redo it in Unchained X.....

???

What are you confused on?

Your use of pronouns was confusing. "This game" referred to the original browser game, but that was a previous paragraph ago do I thought you said "when they made unchained, they said fuck it and made unchained a dream so they could redo it in unchained"

I realize my mistake now though.
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pjbasis posted...

Your use of pronouns was confusing. "This game" referred to the original browser game, but that was a previous paragraph ago do I thought you said "when they made unchained, they said fuck it and made unchained a dream so they could redo it in unchained"

I realize my mistake now though.

Ah. Ok. No harm then

Bump

Off tomorrow

Should be able to get some depending on Record Keeper and Comrades

You are doing god's work, MWC.
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