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myzz7
02/09/18 1:06:25 PM
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Volkswagen_Bros
02/09/18 1:07:11 PM
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Twitch girls arent camgirls.
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mario2000
02/09/18 1:07:25 PM
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if people are calling female streamers camgirls simply for being female streamers then this is fair
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Fishy
02/09/18 1:08:59 PM
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i mean camgirl just mean girl who streams but it's not like 95% of "female twitch streamers" aren't titty streamers
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mario2000
02/09/18 1:10:37 PM
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Fishy posted...
i mean camgirl just mean girl who streams

no it doesn't

but it's not like 95% of "female twitch streamers" aren't titty streamers

do you have stats to back up this claim
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LordRazziel
02/09/18 1:11:13 PM
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Poor TC got I trouble and wants people to call bullshit.
No one is, though. lol
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TheGrindery
02/09/18 1:12:19 PM
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Why are people acting like girl and whore are synonymous?

Being a camgirl isn't the same as being a cam whore.
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myzz7
02/09/18 1:13:02 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Poor TC got I trouble and wants people to call bullshit.
No one is, though. lol

nah, i went on over to the live stream fails reddit and they're reporting in on this so i share it here. i don't care much for twitch or use it often.
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Steve Nick
02/09/18 1:13:33 PM
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Twitch will suspend you from the entire site if you say anything that isn't nice to someone.
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Fishy
02/09/18 1:13:54 PM
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mario2000 posted...

no it doesn't

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webcam_model

even the top fucking urbandictionary definition says "generally speaking"
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mario2000
02/09/18 1:14:03 PM
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"camgirl" has a specific pornographic connotation

words are more than just the sum of their parts, you know
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DocileOrangeCup
02/09/18 1:15:01 PM
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mario2000 posted...
"camgirl" has a specific pornographic connotation

words are more than just the sum of their parts, you know

Have you been on twitch lately
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TheVipaGTS
02/09/18 1:16:36 PM
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probably because many nerds on twitch do it in a harassing way because twitch is "THEIR" place it "isn't fair" that girls stream on it...or something...I've never understood the outrage. All Twitch streamers do stupid shit that isn't gaming related and they love it but the moment a good looking girl comes on so many of the twitch audience throws their hands up and says "WTF TWITCH BAN THIS"...
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DrizztLink
02/09/18 1:16:46 PM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
mario2000 posted...
"camgirl" has a specific pornographic connotation

words are more than just the sum of their parts, you know

Have you been on twitch lately

Does Twitch have streamers putting stuff in their poopers?
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mario2000
02/09/18 1:17:40 PM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
mario2000 posted...
"camgirl" has a specific pornographic connotation

words are more than just the sum of their parts, you know

Have you been on twitch lately

yes and i'm not sure what that has to do with my post
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Steve Nick
02/09/18 1:18:06 PM
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mario2000 posted...
"camgirl" has a specific pornographic connotation

words are more than just the sum of their parts, you know


The girls on twitch are doing softcore porn.
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TheVipaGTS
02/09/18 1:18:50 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
mario2000 posted...
"camgirl" has a specific pornographic connotation

words are more than just the sum of their parts, you know


The girls on twitch are doing softcore porn.

Cleavage isn't softcore porn...
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Fishy
02/09/18 1:18:54 PM
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mario2000 posted...
"camgirl" has a specific pornographic connotation

words are more than just the sum of their parts, you know

yeah that's fine and dandy but that doesn't change the fact that it still just means "girl who streams"

that's why it's the connotation and not denotation
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LordRazziel
02/09/18 1:21:01 PM
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Fishy posted...
mario2000 posted...
"camgirl" has a specific pornographic connotation

words are more than just the sum of their parts, you know

yeah that's fine and dandy but that doesn't change the fact that it still just means "girl who streams"

that's why it's the connotation and not denotation

Not on Twtch.
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mario2000
02/09/18 1:21:26 PM
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Fishy posted...
mario2000 posted...
"camgirl" has a specific pornographic connotation

words are more than just the sum of their parts, you know

yeah that's fine and dandy but that doesn't change the fact that it still just means "girl who streams"

that's why it's the connotation and not denotation

words and terms are most often comprehended by their connotation

that is how communication works

calling a female twitch streamer a camgirl is going to come off as a misogynistic insult
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Cookie Bag
02/09/18 1:21:28 PM
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Steve Nick
02/09/18 1:21:28 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Steve Nick posted...
mario2000 posted...
"camgirl" has a specific pornographic connotation

words are more than just the sum of their parts, you know


The girls on twitch are doing softcore porn.

Cleavage isn't softcore porn...


I didn't say it was. They're doing way more than that. Half-naked dance shows are pretty standard on the IRL feed.
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gatorsPENSbucs
02/09/18 1:22:35 PM
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Lol, calling girls on camera camgirls is not allowed? Hilarious.
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TheGrindery
02/09/18 1:24:19 PM
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I read an article by a porn star where she got into a fist fight because she was referred to as a whore. Good times.
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Steve Nick
02/09/18 1:25:42 PM
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TheGrindery posted...
I read an article by a porn star where she got into a fist fight because she was referred to as a whore. Good times.


Definition of whore
1 : a woman who engages in sexual acts for money
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TheVipaGTS
02/09/18 1:26:07 PM
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TheGrindery posted...
I read an article by a porn star where she got into a fist fight because she was referred to as a whore. Good times.

its almost like context is a thing! "she has sex on camera therefore we can degrade her by calling her a whore negatively!"...shut up, dude...its the same people on here who just ignore any potential "context" and want to deal with everything in the most technical and simplistic way possible.
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mario2000
02/09/18 1:28:40 PM
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TheGrindery posted...
I read an article by a porn star where she got into a fist fight because she was referred to as a whore. Good times.

Steve Nick posted...
TheGrindery posted...
I read an article by a porn star where she got into a fist fight because she was referred to as a whore. Good times.


Definition of whore
1 : a woman who engages in sexual acts for money

do you people seriously not grasp the concept of the way you can say a word can change its intent

like...communication and social interaction is more than just dictionary definitions of words
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CableZL
02/09/18 1:31:35 PM
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Steve Nick
02/09/18 1:31:47 PM
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What I don't understand is at what point did simply moderating your channel become too much?

It used to be that if you didn't get along with a streamer, you could get banned from that channel. Now they just ban you from all of Twitch.

There's a lot of diverse groups of people in the world but now Twitch wants to moderate them all on their own, rather than just allow people to separate and create their own communities that they moderate for themselves.
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mario2000
02/09/18 1:32:36 PM
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maybe twitch realizes that if a person is gonna be shitty on one channel, they're probably gonna be shitty on other channels too
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CableZL
02/09/18 1:33:03 PM
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At what point did simply not being an asshole on the internet become too much?
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LordRazziel
02/09/18 1:34:08 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
What I don't understand is at what point did simply moderating your channel become too much?

It used to be that if you didn't get along with a streamer, you could get banned from that channel. Now they just ban you from all of Twitch.

There's a lot of diverse groups of people in the world but now Twitch wants to moderate them all on their own, rather than just allow people to separate and create their own communities that they moderate for themselves.

lol
Now diversity is important.
Hahah
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DrizztLink
02/09/18 2:27:02 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Steve Nick posted...
What I don't understand is at what point did simply moderating your channel become too much?

It used to be that if you didn't get along with a streamer, you could get banned from that channel. Now they just ban you from all of Twitch.

There's a lot of diverse groups of people in the world but now Twitch wants to moderate them all on their own, rather than just allow people to separate and create their own communities that they moderate for themselves.

lol
Now diversity is important.
Hahah

It's the shitposter equivalent of "won't someone think of the poor Nazis?"
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joestarrr
02/09/18 2:50:07 PM
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mario2000 posted...
if people are calling female streamers camgirls simply for being female streamers then this is fair
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Skywalker82
02/09/18 2:55:38 PM
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Some of the girls on their is like MFC lite. Pink Sparkles is probably the biggest offender right now. At least STPeach plays video games and doesn't make it all about her butt.
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LordRazziel
02/09/18 3:23:51 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
mario2000 posted...
"camgirl" has a specific pornographic connotation


Only if we allow it to. Let's stop allowing to.

Why?
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mario2000
02/09/18 3:29:29 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
mario2000 posted...
"camgirl" has a specific pornographic connotation


Only if we allow it to. Let's stop allowing to.

you know that's not how it works right
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Bagamak
02/09/18 3:33:02 PM
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even if camgirl means a bad thing, that isn't obvious when looking at the word and not everyone knows the hip new lingo. it's very easy for an innocent person to get banned when they didn't even mean it as an insult. they might even be PRAISING the girl but someone assumes they meant to insult and bans them. it's not fair. I don't like it when people who don't know what a word means get punished just cause people assume everyone knows
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LordRazziel
02/09/18 3:35:09 PM
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Bagamak posted...
even if camgirl means a bad thing, that isn't obvious when looking at the word and not everyone knows the hip new lingo. it's very easy for an innocent person to get banned when they didn't even mean it as an insult. they might even be PRAISING the girl but someone assumes they meant to insult and bans them. it's not fair. I don't like it when people who don't know what a word means get punished just cause people assume everyone knows

Nobody bite.
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Bagamak
02/09/18 4:08:38 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Bagamak posted...
even if camgirl means a bad thing, that isn't obvious when looking at the word and not everyone knows the hip new lingo. it's very easy for an innocent person to get banned when they didn't even mean it as an insult. they might even be PRAISING the girl but someone assumes they meant to insult and bans them. it's not fair. I don't like it when people who don't know what a word means get punished just cause people assume everyone knows

Nobody bite.

I really didn;t know it had a negative connotation. I thought it was just a job description. a girl who appears on cam and streams. if i made an account I would be banned. this is how it would go down

I go to a stream and tell her she's my favorite cam girl
get banned

"but.....why?"

Twitch: you know what you did

"no....I don't"

Twitch: get out of my sight

"but"

Twitch: *pulls out a shotgun* Get.Out. Of. My. Sight.

call cops

Twitch is arrested and goes on trial

I testify on stand

Twitch gets convicted

I walk out of court onto steps and someone jumps out of the crowd with a gun and shoots me

fall to ground as someone holds me screaming for a doctor

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mario2000
02/09/18 4:14:42 PM
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too bad we don't have a way to quickly and easily find out what words mean

perhaps...some sort of engine...for searching....maybe they could call it...gargle....or giggle....or something
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Bagamak
02/09/18 4:21:19 PM
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mario2000 posted...
too bad we don't have a way to quickly and easily find out what words mean

perhaps...some sort of engine...for searching....maybe they could call it...gargle....or giggle....or something

I would never even think of looking up the word because I thought I already knew what it meant. that's why I would get banned. I'd be totally innocent and they would attack me just cause I didn't know the most up to date slang definition for cam girl. A word I always thought just meant a girl on camera
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mario2000
02/09/18 4:22:51 PM
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Bagamak posted...
mario2000 posted...
too bad we don't have a way to quickly and easily find out what words mean

perhaps...some sort of engine...for searching....maybe they could call it...gargle....or giggle....or something

I would never even think of looking up the word because I thought I already knew what it meant. that's why I would get banned. I'd be totally innocent and they would attack me just cause I didn't know the most up to date slang definition for cam girl. A word I always thought just meant a girl on camera

your ignorance is your own fault and no one else's
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Bagamak
02/09/18 4:24:52 PM
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mario2000 posted...
your ignorance is your own fault and no one else's

how do you expect me to KNOW somehow that I don't know the word? I am saying that I thought I already knew what the word meant. nothing in my entire life has ever led to me to think cam girl meant anything other than what I thought it meant. saying I am supposed to magically know I am ignorant (which is a logical impossibility) is just silly. you are making no sense. and you are victim blaming. you are saying it;s ok to attack people just cause they aren't aware of what the internet thinks a word means. a truly innocent mistake is to be forgiven not ban the person.
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Bagamak
02/09/18 4:27:30 PM
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this is like telling people 20,000 years ago that it's their own fault for not knowing that there are other planets in the universe. cavemen had no idea of knowing that, or being expected to look it up and research it. it wasn't even something that crossed their mind. so they simply didn't know.
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mario2000
02/09/18 4:30:20 PM
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keep making excuses and shifting blame

it's all you ever do
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Bagamak
02/09/18 4:33:23 PM
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mario2000 posted...
keep making excuses and shifting blame

it's all you ever do

how am I supposed to know I was wrong if I thought I knew what the word meant? what would make me even think of "I should look up this random word for no reason just to make sure it means what I think it means" out of all the words in the english language? and why are you defending the act of banning someone you know did nothing wrong? in this story, you as the reader, are told outright by the narrator the at the person is innocent and didn't mean any offense. and then you respond by saying it's fair to ban them.
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mario2000
02/09/18 4:40:43 PM
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if you're trying to kill me via secondhand embarrassment you're doing a pretty good job of it so far
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Bagamak
02/09/18 4:46:08 PM
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your not making any sense. you expect me to be psychic, and you victim blame. far as I see it, I won this debate. nothing you said had any logic to it
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