Current Events > The Cloverfield Paradox is not worth watching guys, even if you like Cloverfield

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- The main movie has nothing to do with Cloverfield monsters/aliens. That wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if the movie was as strong as 10 Cloverfield Lane, which also did not focus on the aliens/monsters until the final 10-15 minutes (although I personally feel 10 Cloverfield Lane, an already great movie, was made even better because of the monsters/aliens).

- While the main story was featured in space, occasionally there would be shots on Earth. The husband of the protagonist is driving through the ruined city, and there is even a silhouette of a monster in the smoke at one point for a brief few seconds.

- Literally, to justify the Cloverfield name, they threw a monster in the last few seconds, and I literally do mean seconds. The crew goes back down to Earth after they complete their mission, unaware of what happened to Earth. After their capsule falls through the clouds, a giant monster pops out and roars, and you see its face for a couple seconds, and then you get the credits.

Seriously, you can tell they took a movie script that was just a typical sci-fi parallel universe story, and then added in the scenes with the husband and the monster at the end to justify calling it Cloverfield. 10 Cloverfield Lane actually did a great job making sure that every small detail in the movie was there for a reason, which is why the aliens actually made sense in that movie if you paid attention.


Basically, don't watch it, not necessarily terrible, but the movie is scam for Cloverfield fans, and doesn't deserve the reward of having your viewership for misleading people.
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I didnt read your spoilers, is this considered Cloverfield 3?
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I think hardcore Cloverfield fans will like it. I thought it was pretty meh
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Fenrimis posted...

I didnt read your spoilers, is this considered Cloverfield 3?

Yes.

armandro posted...

I think hardcore Cloverfield fans will like it. I thought it was pretty meh

I disagree. I think they will feel ripped off.
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Well, It doesnt explain how the aliens got there but it was still cool sci-fi.
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I just watched it and, yeah, I'm pretty disappointed. I didn't hate it but I wanted it to be so much better than it was. I love the first two movies and I'm super interested in the series but this was a very weak entry in my opinion.

I liked how the Chinese lady went out though.
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is the plot of the movie itself interesting in any way? Does it HAVE a plot?

TheDarkCircle posted...

is the plot of the movie itself interesting in any way? Does it HAVE a plot?

See, that's the thing. The movie itself is fine. It isn't anything special, but it can satisfy you if you want something to kill time with. There were some nice parts to it. It is the fact that they made it a Cloverfield movie, which makes me feel ripped off, and ultimately sours my experience.
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I completely agree with TC.

Although I admittedly didnt pay attention through tour a lot of the movie so maybe ill Have to rewatch it if I get really bored...but I think Id have to be pretty damn bored. It just felt like your typical B rate sci-fi movie with very few actual connections to cloverfield. Im also not a fan of one of the major plot points so I really cant imagine myself enjoying it even on a second watch where I pay attention.

dodgefan91 posted...

I completely agree with TC.

Although I admittedly didnt pay attention through tour a lot of the movie so maybe ill Have to rewatch it if I get really bored...but I think Id have to be pretty damn bored. It just felt like your typical B rate sci-fi movie with very few actual connections to cloverfield. Im also not a fan of one of the major plot points so I really cant imagine myself enjoying it even on a second watch where I pay attention.

Exactly.

As I said, 10 Cloverfield Lane also had little connections to the Cloverfield universe until the end, but the main story was great anyways, and the whole movie was setup in a way that made it seem like the aliens weren't just tacked on. It felt like it was complete.
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If you're looking for any kind of serial plot, you're going to be disappointed. Cloverfield = Twilight Zone.
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Polycosm posted...

If you're looking for any kind of serial plot, you're going to be disappointed. Cloverfield = Twilight Zone.

That isn't the point. This movie was not deserving of the title at all. Very lazily added on that monster at the end for a few seconds to justify being a part of the Cloverfield universe.
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I think the point is, is that this movie is gonna lazily put all of the other movies together because of alternate dimensions.

The monster you see at the end is the same species as you see in C1 but at different growths.

C1 had a baby.

C3 has a wayyyy older one it seems since it breaks the fucking clouds.

C2 Lane. Fits no where.

C4 is about WWII and zombies. If the rumors are true.

C3 Paradox sets up the universe to welcome other monsters and ghouls.
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I didn't even know there was a Cloverfield 2.
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PiOverlord posted...

Polycosm posted...

If you're looking for any kind of serial plot, you're going to be disappointed. Cloverfield = Twilight Zone.

That isn't the point. This movie was not deserving of the title at all. Very lazily added on that monster at the end for a few seconds to justify being a part of the Cloverfield universe.

I think that the scene you mentioned would have been more effective if the movie cut all of the Earth subplot and just stayed on the space station the whole time. The tie-in stuff hasn't done these movies a whole lot of good, from a purely critical/quality point of view. And I'll grant you that the marketing has been inconsistent and misleading at times. They clearly warned everyone that 10 Cloverfield Lane was going in a Twilight Zone direction, but Paradox over-promised when it claimed it would provide answers.

Still, if Paradox isn't deserving of the title, that's only because it doesn't live up to the high bar set by Lane, imo.
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I agree with TC.

Movie seemed like a straight to syfy channel movie.
Generic AF
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Game_Fan09 posted...

I didn't even know there was a Cloverfield 2.

You should watch 10 Cloverfield Lane. Really enjoyable.

FLAMING EVIL HOMER posted...

I agree with TC.

Movie seemed like a straight to syfy channel movie.
Generic AF

Yup, just skip this movie.
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I don't understand Cloverfield fans tbqh

The 2nd movie was literally just given a monster at the end and had the name Cloverfield attached to it near the end of production.

I get the feeling this is the same case for the third one? If not, the fact that they literally only justify it with a few smokey monster shots and a reveal in the last seconds is pretty bad.

I hear the next one is gonna take place in World War 2? I assume that means they actually are made with the intention of being "Cloverfield" movies unlike the second one, but like...I dunno, it seems pretty clear that while they have the potential to be decent movies on their own, it's garbage as a franchise.
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Yeah, I don't think this film was suppose to be a Cloverfield film. It was called The God Particle and I guess they decided to just reworking it into what they thought could connect with Cloverfield, but it just fails terribly.

Good, they deserve retribution for flooding my fucking Twitter page by liking every single post about it
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I haven't watched it yet but the whole idea of the Cloverfield sequels is kind of dumb. I wish they would stop just repurposing unrelated scripts and make an actual sequel. Lane was just obnoxious because it had nothing to do with Cloverfield with or without the name. They just slapped it on their and decided it's an anthology series but now they've apparently gone back on that, put another script through their Cloverfield machine, and made an actual quasi-sequel.

50Blessings posted...

I don't understand Cloverfield fans tbqh

The 2nd movie was literally just given a monster at the end and had the name Cloverfield attached to it near the end of production.

I get the feeling this is the same case for the third one? If not, the fact that they literally only justify it with a few smokey monster shots and a reveal in the last seconds is pretty bad.

I hear the next one is gonna take place in World War 2? I assume that means they actually are made with the intention of being "Cloverfield" movies unlike the second one, but like...I dunno, it seems pretty clear that while they have the potential to be decent movies on their own, it's garbage as a franchise.

Some people believe 10 Cloverfield Lane shouldn't have had the aliens, but I felt it was done really well, and didn't feel tacked on. Again, that is just me personally.

The new movie does feel tacked on, and I think it should have stayed as The God Particle.
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Mark Stambler, author of the Cloverfield Paradox, says on the news that the experiments are dangerous. They may open up space time and invite in monsters in the past, in the future, and in other dimensions. So very easily a 2008 and 2016 dimension each could have experienced a sudden influx of aliens or whatever is going on

That ties things in pretty well. It still doesn't mesh in feeling. It didn't feel like a Cloverfield movie but neither did 10 Cloverfield Lane.

This movie was enjoyable but less so to consider it attached to the rest. Maybe the 4th movie coming out this year makes it feel like a better fit

More likely each Cloverfield movie is going to be set in an alternate dimension
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PiOverlord posted...

50Blessings posted...

I don't understand Cloverfield fans tbqh

The 2nd movie was literally just given a monster at the end and had the name Cloverfield attached to it near the end of production.

I get the feeling this is the same case for the third one? If not, the fact that they literally only justify it with a few smokey monster shots and a reveal in the last seconds is pretty bad.

I hear the next one is gonna take place in World War 2? I assume that means they actually are made with the intention of being "Cloverfield" movies unlike the second one, but like...I dunno, it seems pretty clear that while they have the potential to be decent movies on their own, it's garbage as a franchise.

Some people believe 10 Cloverfield Lane shouldn't have had the aliens, but I felt it was done really well, and didn't feel tacked on. Again, that is just me personally.

The new movie does feel tacked on, and I think it should have stayed as The God Particle.

I watched 10 Cloverfield Lane before watching the original. The movie was great on its own and if you pay attention the alien invasion stuff makes sense and is established with what we hear of the outside world
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Doctor Foxx posted...

PiOverlord posted...

50Blessings posted...

I don't understand Cloverfield fans tbqh

The 2nd movie was literally just given a monster at the end and had the name Cloverfield attached to it near the end of production.

I get the feeling this is the same case for the third one? If not, the fact that they literally only justify it with a few smokey monster shots and a reveal in the last seconds is pretty bad.

I hear the next one is gonna take place in World War 2? I assume that means they actually are made with the intention of being "Cloverfield" movies unlike the second one, but like...I dunno, it seems pretty clear that while they have the potential to be decent movies on their own, it's garbage as a franchise.

Some people believe 10 Cloverfield Lane shouldn't have had the aliens, but I felt it was done really well, and didn't feel tacked on. Again, that is just me personally.

The new movie does feel tacked on, and I think it should have stayed as The God Particle.

I watched 10 Cloverfield Lane before watching the original. The movie was great on its own and if you pay attention the alien invasion stuff makes sense and is established with what we hear of the outside world

Yup, I would have been disappointed if it did just end with her escaping Howard because the movie setup the last minutes so well.
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It feels like they tack on the Cloverfield name onto films that they have little faith in.

It worked with 10 Cloverfield Lane because it was actually a good movie that just got an attention boost due to the Cloverfield tie in. It also didn't really promise a whole lot to tie things together, in fact I think they flat out said it wasn't going to tie anything together.

This is the exact opposite. It was a mediocre film that got a huge boost cause of Cloverfield, but kind of promised a lot in that little boost and didn't deliever in a satisfactory way.

I mean, great, it's just a bunch of inter dimensional, timey wimey nonsense? Okay. Movie is still pretty lame though.

Youngster_Joey_ posted...

I mean, great, it's just a bunch of inter dimensional, timey wimey nonsense? Okay. Movie is still pretty lame though.

Did everyone forget this is JJ abrams or

What else do you expect from him
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Just give us an actual Cloverfield 2 Abrams and quit the pretentiousness.

They went much bigger with this movie too. 45 million dollar budget.
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I just want a Cloverfield movie where there's a different view point of the NYC attack with different characters. How hard is it to do this?
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Just finished it. Yeah, it feels just like Cloverfield Lane. Did they splice stuff into a finished movie like Lane or was the script actually edited to fit in Cloverfield stuff? They literally could have just had that interview with plot dude as part of some ARG and that's all you really need from this movie. That in itself was kind of interesting but it had nothing to do with the movie. It also could have used more goofy reality shit. The arm thing and Jensen were cool but they really didn't play around with the idea.

specialkid8 posted...

Just finished it. Yeah, it feels just like Cloverfield Lane. Did they splice stuff into a finished movie like Lane or was the script actually edited to fit in Cloverfield stuff? They literally could have just had that interview with plot dude as part of some ARG and that's all you really need from this movie. That in itself was kind of interesting but it had nothing to do with the movie. It also could have used more goofy reality shit. The arm thing and Jensen were cool but they really didn't play around with the idea.

It was a movie that started out as something else, then later made into a Cloverfield movie. At first, I was iffy about that idea but as long as they made it work, for the most part, like 10 Cloverfield Lane and the movie was still good, then I was okay with it.
But now, I don't know. It would be in their best interest to actually sit down and come up with ideas going ahead rather than slapping the Cloverfield name on random films that seem to fit what they were going for.
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ManBeast462 posted...

Well, It doesnt explain how the aliens got there but it was still cool sci-fi.

They did.

It's a strong reference to lovecraftian horror that the demons/monsters have come from an alternate dimension via a rip in the time and space continuum.

The god particle ripped open a portal to other dimensions and that's where these monsters have come from.
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chrono625 posted...

ManBeast462 posted...

Well, It doesnt explain how the aliens got there but it was still cool sci-fi.

They did.

It's a strong reference to lovecraftian horror that the demons/monsters have come from an alternate dimension via a rip in the time and space continuum.

The god particle ripped open a portal to other dimensions and that's where these monsters have come from.

Basically it's stranger things but the whole planet and every dimension
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I just saw it. My main complaint is that the characters were kinda dumb for a bunch of really smart people. They seemed to be pretty slow on the uptake.

MAJOR SPOILERS
After the test goes wrong, a lady appears on the ship stuck in the wall. I'm fine here.

1) The lady that appears on the ship knows all of them except for Tam.
2) Nobody knows her
3) She wasn't on the ship when they took off.
4) She knows all of them except for Tam.
5) She was surprised that Hamilton was on the ship and not on Earth.

I thought it was clear here that she was just from a different dimension where she had Tam's job. So when she started accusing Schmidt of sabotaging everything, I thought the Schmidt from HER universe was the saboteur, but she or someone else would end up being the saboteur in the movie. They all just took her word for everything even though they had no idea who she was, which was kinda weird.

Also, when Tam realized that condensation was a major problem that ventilation was fixed, she locked herself in a room when there was a clear H2O breach warning that popped up.
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Really, just go watch Event Horizon.

It's the same film done much better.

CableZL posted...

I just saw it. My main complaint is that the characters were kinda dumb for a bunch of really smart people. They seemed to be pretty slow on the uptake.

MAJOR SPOILERS
she locked herself in a room when there was a clear H2O breach warning that popped up.

Tbf I think that popped up once she was already in
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I loved it, might watch it again later.
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Cornmuffins posted...

CableZL posted...

I just saw it. My main complaint is that the characters were kinda dumb for a bunch of really smart people. They seemed to be pretty slow on the uptake.

MAJOR SPOILERS
she locked herself in a room when there was a clear H2O breach warning that popped up.

Tbf I think that popped up once she was already in

If that's the case, then it's a major engineering mistake if the only way you know there's an H2O breach in a room is to look at a display panel that's outside of that room.
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