Current Events > Fuck you Comcast

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why?
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Dustin1280 posted...

why?

Do you need a reason?
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I generally like to know the reason behind anger, yes...

Even if it's comcast.
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Probably throttling his speed because he dared to stream a movie or some shit
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They do throttle you as you reach the end of your billing cycle. The last few days of mine have been less than stellar, then after the cycle ended (yesterday), now my speeds are moving like normal.

This is why you need Ben Lomand Connect
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comcast doesn't throttle connections though...
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Dustin1280 posted...

comcast doesn't throttle connections though...

Very consistently the connection either slows down tremendously or stops working after I stream a movie/a lot of Youtube or download a huge file. It gets extremely annoying
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Banjo2553 posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

comcast doesn't throttle connections though...

Very consistently the connection either slows down tremendously or stops working after I stream a movie/a lot of Youtube or download a huge file. It gets extremely annoying

I highly doubt that's intentional.
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darkjedilink posted...

Banjo2553 posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

comcast doesn't throttle connections though...

Very consistently the connection either slows down tremendously or stops working after I stream a movie/a lot of Youtube or download a huge file. It gets extremely annoying

I highly doubt that's intentional.

If it's not, I dunno what's causing it. Maybe a faulty modem or something?
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Seriously comcast doesn't throttle connections...

Comcast never reduce the amount of bandwidth available to you or configured on your modem. What happens is that during periods of high use on your CMTS, when you are also using a large amount of bandwidth, is that your packets get placed in a lower priority queue. And then if the buffer gets full, those are the ones that wait.

See website where the entire system is documented, along with the RFC that was also submitted to the FCC. http://networkmanagement.comcast.net.

http://customer.xfinity.com/help-and-support/internet/network-management-information/
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I only use Comcast for their shit internet.
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I got Spectrum and it's pretty good

I was with Time Warner but it's Spectrum now
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internet went out for 90 minutes ._.

muh pubg

AlternativeFAQS posted...

internet went out for 90 minutes ._.

muh pubg

See now that is a good reason to be upset (not non-existent throttling). I would argue if there was an outage, a 1.5 hour downtime before you were up and running again isn't really that bad...
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Yeah, the free market would never let Comcast throttle speeds! Which is why ISPs purposefully do not work within a free market.
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BLAKUboy posted...

Yeah, the free market would never let Comcast throttle speeds! Which is why ISPs purposefully do not work within a free market.

The Federal government does not allow a free market for ISP's. Or literally anything.
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Comcast is shit.

I got into a billing dispute with Verizon, and switched to Comcast after they gave me an excellent deal.

Their service was so bad, after three days, I called and told them to come and get their equipment.

I had to go back to Verizon, but luckily, I got the issues resolved. I will never go to Comcast again.
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I just know they charge out the ass.
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I worked for Comcast for a number of years. They will nickel and dime you and don't give a single shit about your business. They are awful.

That said, there are some genuinely nice people who do care about the customers working at lower levels. They are the minority though.
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Dustin1280 posted...

doesn't throttle connections...

Dustin1280 posted...

, is that your packets get placed in a lower priority queue.

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I Like Toast posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

doesn't throttle connections...

Dustin1280 posted...

, is that your packets get placed in a lower priority queue.

Read the links I posted, every broadband provider does this...
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Dustin1280 posted...

Read the links I posted

Placing packets into a lower priority queue is a method of throttling speeds. Comcast has definitely throttled services in the past. We'll have to see what they choose to do/not do after the net neutrality repeal, though.
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CableZL posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

Read the links I posted

Placing packets into a lower priority queue is a method of throttling speeds.

CableZL posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

Read the links I posted

Placing packets into a lower priority queue is a method of throttling speeds. Comcast has definitely throttled services in the past. We'll have to see what they choose to do/not do after the net neutrality repeal, though.

Not sure there is a single broadband provider that doesn't manage packet queue congestion...

It's different from purely throttling a connection.
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Dustin1280 posted...

Not sure there is a single broadband provider that doesn't manage packet queue congestion...

It's different from purely throttling a connection.

Yeah, but some providers choose to oversell their network capacity and slow users down in times of high usage (throttle) and others choose to make sure their network can handle the bandwidth they're selling to customers.

And let's not forget that Comcast was known to throttle services prior to the 2015 net neutrality regulations.
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CableZL posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

Not sure there is a single broadband provider that doesn't manage packet queue congestion...

It's different from purely throttling a connection.

Yeah, but some providers choose to oversell their network capacity and slow users down in times of high usage (throttle) and others choose to make sure their network can handle the bandwidth they're selling to customers.

And let's not forget that Comcast was known to throttle services prior to the 2015 net neutrality regulations.

The netflix thing was another grey area of sorts, but I won't argue your first statement. Though I would question WHAT broadband providers do NOT oversell their capacity...
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Dustin1280 posted...

The netflix thing was another grey area of sorts, but I won't argue your first statement. Though I would question WHAT broadband providers do NOT oversell their capacity...

The netflix thing wasn't a grey area at all. Netflix had to pay Comcast to get them to stop throttling. Netflix then passed the cost of these payments (they also paid AT&T and Verizon) onto their customers by increasing the monthly fee. Comcast also throttled bittorent. After implementing 250 GB data caps, they also implemented a proprietary streaming service for Xbox owners that didn't count against the data cap, which incentivized customers to use Comcast's service over competing services like Amazon and Netflix.
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CableZL posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

The netflix thing was another grey area of sorts, but I won't argue your first statement. Though I would question WHAT broadband providers do NOT oversell their capacity...

The netflix thing wasn't a grey area at all. Netflix had to pay Comcast to get them to stop throttling. Netflix then passed the cost of these payments (they also paid AT&T and Verizon) onto their customers by increasing the monthly fee. Comcast also throttled bittorent. After implementing 250 GB data caps, they also implemented a proprietary streaming service for Xbox owners that didn't count against the data cap, which incentivized customers to use Comcast's service over competing services like Amazon and Netflix.

Bittorrent yeah that was some bullshit.

I wasn't even aware of the Xbox thing that happened.

Netflix:
Much like Netflixs ongoing standoff with Verizon FiOS, the drop in speeds wasnt an issue of the ISP throttling or blocking service to Netflix. Rather, the ISPs were allowing for Netflix traffic to bottleneck at whats known as peering ports, the connection between Netflixs bandwidth provider and the ISPs.

Until recently, if peering ports became congested with downstream traffic, it was common practice for an ISP to temporarily open up new ports to maintain the flow of data. This was not a business arrangement; just something that had been done as a courtesy. ISPs would expect the bandwidth companies to do the same if there was a spike in upstream traffic. However, there is virtually no upstream traffic with Netflix, so the Comcasts and Verizons of the world claimed they were being taken advantage of.

Also I am not sure ANY broadband company that provides ACTUAL high speed internet hasn't had it's fair share of issues in the past. Comcast is not universally the worst of the bunch by any means...
Google Fiber might be an exception, I really didn't pay attention to it, since I could not take advantage of it.

I will say I am terrified of net neutrality though and what could potentially come out of that being repealed...
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Dustin1280 posted...

I will say I am terrified of net neutrality though and what could potentially come out of that being repealed...

You're afraid of the boogeyman hiding under your bed, then.

The whole idea behind net neutrality is a strawman, and your imaginary fear would be far easier lifted if the federal government stopped forcing ISP's into districting, creating mini monopolies at the governments' demand.
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darkjedilink posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

I will say I am terrified of net neutrality though and what could potentially come out of that being repealed...

You're afraid of the boogeyman hiding under your bed, then.

The whole idea behind net neutrality is a strawman, and your imaginary fear would be far easier lifted if the federal government stopped forcing ISP's into districting, creating mini monopolies at the governments' demand.

Misplaced or not, I hope nothing comes of it being revoked. Worst case scenario is really bad so I hope that scenario never comes to pass and IS in fact just the Y2K bug all over again...
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darkjedilink posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

I will say I am terrified of net neutrality though and what could potentially come out of that being repealed...

You're afraid of the boogeyman hiding under your bed, then.

The whole idea behind net neutrality is a strawman, and your imaginary fear would be far easier lifted if the federal government stopped forcing ISP's into districting, creating mini monopolies at the governments' demand.

Actually, the fears are based on things ISPs have actually done in the past.
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When I used Netflix on Comcast, it would break out of the show I was watching and give me an error about playback about 3-4 times a day on average. Some days it would be ridiculously higher, up to 20 times or something. On U verse (At&t) thats happened to me maybe 2-3 times in 7 months. Thats just pure anecdotal experience.
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Dustin1280 posted...

why?

Oh...you'll find something if you just look...
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darkjedilink posted...

You're afraid of the boogeyman hiding under your bed, then

2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it.

2005 - Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers.

2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. 2011 - MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except youtube. (edit: they actually sued the FCC over this)

2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit. edit: this one happened literally months after the trio were busted collaborating with Google to block apps from the android marketplace

2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. (edit: they were fined $1.25million over this)

2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money.

2013, Verizon literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place.
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I Like Toast posted...

darkjedilink posted...

You're afraid of the boogeyman hiding under your bed, then

2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it.

2005 - Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers.

2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. 2011 - MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except youtube. (edit: they actually sued the FCC over this)

2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit. edit: this one happened literally months after the trio were busted collaborating with Google to block apps from the android marketplace

2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. (edit: they were fined $1.25million over this)

2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money.

2013, Verizon literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place.

There were no net neutrality rules in place in 2013. Also, keep in mind most of what you're talking about has to do with cell networks, and not the internet.
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