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clearaflagrantj
02/05/18 8:26:22 AM
#51:


Hairy-man posted...
Ok how old are you?

We're both 26.

FWIW I've been living on my own for two years now

_Schwarzlicht_ posted...
Hope it's a big enough place for you two to have separate areas to hang out in. A little bit of distance/private retreat is helpful in not getting sick of/aggravated with someone you live with.

We'll be getting a two bedroom, so there will be a bedroom, a candle studio room for her to start her candle business, and a living room.
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ExtremeLuchador
02/05/18 9:36:00 AM
#52:


Don't do it. I regret when I did. Of course I used to live with someone who has only earned $50,000 total since 2012.
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clearaflagrantj
02/05/18 9:47:04 AM
#53:


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Don't do it. I regret when I did. Of course I used to live with someone who has only earned $50,000 total since 2012.

My girlfriend is a successful and responsible woman with her own income and rock solid career.

We are splitting necessary expenditures right down the middle, we can both afford the apartment individually anyway.

Trust me, I am METICULOUS with money, I wouldn't risk my financial security for anything.
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EnragedSlith
02/05/18 10:10:31 AM
#54:


You are far too worried about marriage for some reason. Its going to chase this girl away.

She wants to move in with you because she sees it as the next step. Its something of a test for the relationship. Her feelings are there and now shes going to see if it makes sense in other ways.

This girl is actively looking to be with you for the rest of her life. Stop doing everything in your power to fuck that up unless shes really just there to fill time for you
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Lordgold666
02/05/18 10:11:24 AM
#55:


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Do you even lift

Nah i think he still ubers
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Darkman124
02/05/18 10:13:19 AM
#56:


50Blessings posted...
Wow, it's been over two year since all of Clears "I'm lonely" topics?

Time flies.


he's still lonely in this relationship by my understanding

clear, these days you remind me a lot of me when i was 3 years younger than you

just be careful and don't overcommit to someone you don't feel anything for because it makes sense by the metrics that you prioritize
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emblem boy
02/05/18 10:23:01 AM
#57:


Darkman124 posted...
50Blessings posted...
Wow, it's been over two year since all of Clears "I'm lonely" topics?

Time flies.


he's still lonely in this relationship by my understanding

clear, these days you remind me a lot of me when i was 3 years younger than you

just be careful and don't overcommit to someone you don't feel anything for because it makes sense by the metrics that you prioritize


How did you know your wife was the right one?
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clearaflagrantj
02/05/18 10:25:51 AM
#58:


EnragedSlith posted...
You are far too worried about marriage for some reason. Its going to chase this girl away.

She wants to move in with you because she sees it as the next step. Its something of a test for the relationship. Her feelings are there and now shes going to see if it makes sense in other ways.

This girl is actively looking to be with you for the rest of her life. Stop doing everything in your power to fuck that up unless shes really just there to fill time for you

Actually she wants to move in with me for the same reasons I do:

We save money and we enjoy being together. When you say "this girl is actively looking for me to be with her for the rest of my life," I don't believe that's true. We are both open to the idea but we're not getting married anytime soon.

Darkman124 posted...
just be careful and don't overcommit to someone you don't feel anything for because it makes sense by the metrics that you prioritize

Valuable advice.

Basically the crux of my conflict.

Which is why I was clear I am not actively looking to get married, and that she shouldn't be other.
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foreveraIone
02/05/18 10:26:30 AM
#59:


clearaflagrantj posted...
Which is why I was clear I am not actively looking to get married, and that she shouldn't be other.

well she's 26 and not married. it's not an issue for you but she's not getting any younger .
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clearaflagrantj
02/05/18 10:26:31 AM
#60:


emblem boy posted...
How did you know your wife was the right one?

Great question I'd like to hear the answer to as well.

Mostly because I think true love is a lie.
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Romulox28
02/05/18 10:29:40 AM
#61:


living with an SO is an interesting experience, has its pros and cons IMO.

probably a good call in getting the 2br; my wife & i live in a 1 bedroom and it's pretty tight, and while we make it work, having that extra space will make a big deal (we are looking to move out now to a bigger apartment). some points:

1. i dont know how your gf is, but my wife has a ton of shit, so closet space is a precious commodity. don't share closets, get your own closet.

2. have separate areas where you can go and be alone so you dont feel like you and your SO are on top of each other all the time. for example if my wife is watching some garbage reality show in the living room i'll go in the bedroom and use my desktop, helps us feel like we can do our own shit when we want to

3. since you have no interest in getting married, give some thought to how you will CYA in regards to finances/assets in the chance that you guys break up.

for example you dont want to be one of those couples that gets a dog and then you break up and dont know who gets it, you don't want to get a joint banking account and have to figure out how to split it up, getting on the same phone plan, etc.

i know this is common sense and you're not a dumb guy, but i see a lot of my friends who i thought were rational people doing stuff like this when they move in with their SOs

4. dont try and split up chores, like saying you do dishes and she takes out trash etc. just make sure you do what needs to be done when it needs to be done. don't keep score about this either, because it will lead to you guys trying to kill each other

5. enjoy cleaning large clumps of hair out of the shower drain on the daily

6. dont expect to be getting laid constantly because you live together unless shes just that kind of chica

clearaflagrantj posted...
Mostly because I think true love is a lie.

from my experience that's a hallmark thing, not what marriage is really about imo
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Darkman124
02/05/18 10:33:37 AM
#63:


clearaflagrantj posted...
emblem boy posted...
How did you know your wife was the right one?

Great question I'd like to hear the answer to as well.

Mostly because I think true love is a lie.


in my opinion it is mostly a lie.

the basis of a functional marriage in my experience rests on mutual respect much more so than love. respect allows my wife and i to forgive one another when we have a heated argument and say something mean to one another.

it was when she and i were having some of our worst fights that I began to notice how strong our relationship really was.
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emblem boy
02/05/18 10:36:32 AM
#65:


Darkman124 posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
emblem boy posted...
How did you know your wife was the right one?

Great question I'd like to hear the answer to as well.

Mostly because I think true love is a lie.


it is a lie.

the basis of a functional marriage in my experience rests on respect much more so than love.


For the actual marriage part, I think it's very much about choice and choosing to make the other person feel loved and wanted while the two of you live life and try to better each other in some way.

It's the part before marriage that I'm so confused about. How do you know she's the one to want to stick it out with. What is this love feeling
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Balrog0
02/05/18 10:38:33 AM
#66:


I dunno, it is kinda weird to me to move in with someone when your expectations for the future of the relationship are not clear and your impetus for doing it is financial

I mean I don't even live with my gf and we have been together for almost 4 years and I do intend to marry her because I prefer a higher level of independence until I do actually pop the question
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Romulox28
02/05/18 10:47:50 AM
#67:


Balrog0 posted...
I dunno, it is kinda weird to me to move in with someone when your expectations for the future of the relationship are not clear and your impetus for doing it is financial

i do agree with this tho. especially since i just read the first page and clear said his gf wants to get married, so if he doesnt the relationship is basically a ticking time bomb that will go off when this is finally, definitively addressed.

at the very least have a contingency plan like i said before in my big post, so you can gtfo if you need to
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Darkman124
02/05/18 10:49:28 AM
#68:


i know i personally wasnt interested in living together unless i was sure i was going forward with proposing and getting married
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Darkman124
02/05/18 11:05:22 AM
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i mostly did whatever the girls felt most comfortable with wrt that

i have never dated anyone within 50# of myself, incl my wife, so i always kinda felt like i needed to make sure they never were afraid i was going to rape them

was a strong impulse of mine ever since an early gf had covered her face while i was going down on her because she wasnt really ready to progress that far
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emblem boy
02/05/18 11:06:30 AM
#71:


Balrog0 posted...
I dunno, it is kinda weird to me to move in with someone when your expectations for the future of the relationship are not clear and your impetus for doing it is financial

I mean I don't even live with my gf and we have been together for almost 4 years and I do intend to marry her because I prefer a higher level of independence until I do actually pop the question


How often do you guys see each other?
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Balrog0
02/05/18 11:08:49 AM
#72:


emblem boy posted...
How often do you guys see each other?


literally every day, why?

we pretty much always sleep together and etc, but I still have my own place for all of my stuff and that I spedn time at to hang with my roommates and stuff

I guess I could have been more clear about that but thats why I pointed it out, I am in a relationship where it seems logical for many reasons other than financial ones for us to live together but I'm still kinda iffy on pulling the trigger so its weird to me to see someone willing to jump in for purely economic reasons even when the personal ones are kinda dicey
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emblem boy
02/05/18 11:24:48 AM
#73:


Balrog0 posted...
emblem boy posted...
How often do you guys see each other?


literally every day, why?

we pretty much always sleep together and etc, but I still have my own place for all of my stuff and that I spedn time at to hang with my roommates and stuff

I guess I could have been more clear about that but thats why I pointed it out, I am in a relationship where it seems logical for many reasons other than financial ones for us to live together but I'm still kinda iffy on pulling the trigger so its weird to me to see someone willing to jump in for purely economic reasons even when the personal ones are kinda dicey


I'm just curious. My gf and I see each other almost every day and she brought it up. I think it's too soon since we've only been dating for 6 months, and I like having my space. I was like, it's something we can talk about more in a few months, but even then I might not feel comfortable yet.

But I've also been wondering if maybe I'm in the wrong for thinking that would be too soon.
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clearaflagrantj
02/05/18 11:35:39 AM
#74:


Darkman124 posted...
i know i personally wasnt interested in living together unless i was sure i was going forward with proposing and getting married

I don't know if I even want to get married ever. I'm like 80% sure I never want to marry and 95% sure I never want kids.
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emblem boy
02/05/18 11:42:12 AM
#75:


clearaflagrantj posted...
Darkman124 posted...
i know i personally wasnt interested in living together unless i was sure i was going forward with proposing and getting married

I don't know if I even want to get married ever. I'm like 80% sure I never want to marry and 95% sure I never want kids.


Is the no marriage due to financial fears due to things like divorce?
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clearaflagrantj
02/05/18 11:45:35 AM
#76:


emblem boy posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Darkman124 posted...
i know i personally wasnt interested in living together unless i was sure i was going forward with proposing and getting married

I don't know if I even want to get married ever. I'm like 80% sure I never want to marry and 95% sure I never want kids.


Is the no marriage due to financial fears due to things like divorce?

That is a huge part of it. I also don't truly believe in monogamy, I think it's an ideal we should strive for but one that is inevitably doomed.
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Balrog0
02/05/18 11:45:44 AM
#77:


emblem boy posted...
I'm just curious. My gf and I see each other almost every day and she brought it up. I think it's too soon since we've only been dating for 6 months, and I like having my space. I was like, it's something we can talk about more in a few months, but even then I might not feel comfortable yet.

But I've also been wondering if maybe I'm in the wrong for thinking that would be too soon.


yeah it is definitely something you need to consider carefully imo

my gf doesn't want kids and neither do I, but another issue is where we want to live -- I'd like to live in little rock, she wants to live in north little rock, she wants more bedrooms and I want fewer etc

its a big decision that I would not treat like just moving in with a roommate
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daftpunk_mk5
02/05/18 11:47:30 AM
#78:


Do it if you want but don't budget around it. There's a high chance to leave when she realizes how much of a beta you are
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DarkChozoGhost
02/05/18 11:49:14 AM
#79:


Clear, eventually you're going to reluctantly marry her. Might as well get used to living with her all the time, you can save up more money. It'll be better when you're making the prenup
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EnragedSlith
02/05/18 11:54:11 AM
#80:


clearaflagrantj posted...
emblem boy posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Darkman124 posted...
i know i personally wasnt interested in living together unless i was sure i was going forward with proposing and getting married

I don't know if I even want to get married ever. I'm like 80% sure I never want to marry and 95% sure I never want kids.


Is the no marriage due to financial fears due to things like divorce?

That is a huge part of it. I also don't truly believe in monogamy, I think it's an ideal we should strive for but one that is inevitably doomed.

Surprising to hear you say that since it wasnt too long ago you were posting daily about how dating is bullshit and women have it easy. So youre saying that you dont accept that your girl could be monogamous and you respect that shell stray. How do you think she would feel about you saying that you dont believe in monogamy?
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Romulox28
02/05/18 12:03:18 PM
#81:


clearaflagrantj posted...
emblem boy posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Darkman124 posted...
i know i personally wasnt interested in living together unless i was sure i was going forward with proposing and getting married

I don't know if I even want to get married ever. I'm like 80% sure I never want to marry and 95% sure I never want kids.


Is the no marriage due to financial fears due to things like divorce?

That is a huge part of it. I also don't truly believe in monogamy, I think it's an ideal we should strive for but one that is inevitably doomed.

i would prob suggest against moving in together because once you have these discussions with your gf there is no going back
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emblem boy
02/05/18 12:04:32 PM
#82:


clearaflagrantj posted...
emblem boy posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Darkman124 posted...
i know i personally wasnt interested in living together unless i was sure i was going forward with proposing and getting married

I don't know if I even want to get married ever. I'm like 80% sure I never want to marry and 95% sure I never want kids.


Is the no marriage due to financial fears due to things like divorce?

That is a huge part of it. I also don't truly believe in monogamy, I think it's an ideal we should strive for but one that is inevitably doomed.

How blunt have you talked to your girl about these feelings? I know you said you've talked about it, but did you say it clearly, or try to talk around it?
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r4X0r
02/05/18 12:05:02 PM
#83:


Is she aware that you're never going to marry her and you're going to cheat on her?
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clearaflagrantj
02/05/18 12:11:37 PM
#84:


EnragedSlith posted...
Surprising to hear you say that since it wasnt too long ago you were posting daily about how dating is bullshit and women have it easy. So youre saying that you dont accept that your girl could be monogamous and you respect that shell stray. How do you think she would feel about you saying that you dont believe in monogamy?

Romulox28 posted...
i would prob suggest against moving in together because once you have these discussions with your gf there is no going back


For what it's worth we are both incredibly compatible (excluding movie tastes), we are both pretty rational people.

The conflict comes from me not having a concrete opinion of ever wanting a family, and I am not at the stage of my life to make that decision, so she would potentially be waiting on me if she was more committed. Though I made it clear to her what my intentions are.
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Romulox28
02/05/18 12:21:39 PM
#85:


clearaflagrantj posted...
The conflict comes from me not having a concrete opinion of ever wanting a family, and I am not at the stage of my life to make that decision, so she would potentially be waiting on me if she was more committed. Though I made it clear to her what my intentions are.

did she get to the point yet where all her friends are getting engaged and/or married
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EnragedSlith
02/05/18 12:27:39 PM
#86:


clearaflagrantj posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Surprising to hear you say that since it wasnt too long ago you were posting daily about how dating is bullshit and women have it easy. So youre saying that you dont accept that your girl could be monogamous and you respect that shell stray. How do you think she would feel about you saying that you dont believe in monogamy?

Romulox28 posted...
i would prob suggest against moving in together because once you have these discussions with your gf there is no going back


For what it's worth we are both incredibly compatible (excluding movie tastes), we are both pretty rational people.

The conflict comes from me not having a concrete opinion of ever wanting a family, and I am not at the stage of my life to make that decision, so she would potentially be waiting on me if she was more committed. Though I made it clear to her what my intentions are.

Youre assuming that she is completely rational about a guy shes been begging to move in with her despite strong red flags that the relationship isnt going to evolve

You are putting far too much prominence on what she says versus her behavior. She clearly believes in monogamy and that this will go somewhere, or she wouldnt be broaching this. Im not saying that she is gearing up to get married tomorrow, but she is basing major life decisions around you, and that should be a clarion call
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ExtremeLuchador
02/05/18 7:32:48 PM
#87:


If she believes it's ultimately the man's job to pay the bills, car repairs, etc. don't do it.
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