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Capn Circus
02/03/18 9:54:23 PM
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Judging from the trailer, at least.
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DarkTransient
02/03/18 9:55:00 PM
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As long as they don't try to play it off that he's bad because he's white, so what?
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Gafemage
02/03/18 9:55:16 PM
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Skye Reynolds
02/03/18 9:57:57 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
As long as they don't try to play it off that he's bad because he's white, so what?


Let's be honest, they probably will.

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Vicious_Dios
02/03/18 9:58:40 PM
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Surprise surprise
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 9:59:04 PM
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TC is triggered.
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Capn Circus
02/03/18 9:59:53 PM
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If it's supposedly being touted as a black cast, superhero movie---why not just make all characters black? Why does a white person have to be the bad guy?

Are there any movies with an all white cast and specifically a black person is the bad guy?
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creativerealms
02/03/18 10:00:04 PM
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There is a white villain and a black villain in the film.
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gmanthebest
02/03/18 10:01:27 PM
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The villain is Klaw, yeah?
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St0rmFury
02/03/18 10:03:24 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
If it's supposedly being touted as a black cast, superhero movie---why not just make all characters black? Why does a white person have to be the bad guy?

Are there any movies with an all white cast and specifically a black person is the bad guy?

Daredevil?
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DarthAragorn
02/03/18 10:05:08 PM
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gmanthebest posted...
The villain is Klaw, yeah?

The main villain is Michael B Jordan I'm pretty sure
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Capn Circus
02/03/18 10:05:12 PM
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St0rmFury posted...
Capn Circus posted...
If it's supposedly being touted as a black cast, superhero movie---why not just make all characters black? Why does a white person have to be the bad guy?

Are there any movies with an all white cast and specifically a black person is the bad guy?

Daredevil?


If that's true, I'm okay with it then
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 10:05:35 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
If it's supposedly being touted as a black cast, superhero movie---why not just make all characters black? Why does a white person have to be the bad guy?

Are there any movies with an all white cast and specifically a black person is the bad guy?

Of all the movies ever made, what do you think?
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creativerealms
02/03/18 10:06:10 PM
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gmanthebest posted...
The villain is Klaw, yeah?
Yeah him and I believe Erik Killmonger are the villains. Killmonger is black.
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Skye Reynolds
02/03/18 10:07:35 PM
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There are some movies where the only black character is the villain.

Conan the Barbarian
Dream Catcher
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The Admiral
02/03/18 10:08:23 PM
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This kind of thing happens with the continuing education videos that everyone in the financial services industry has to watch. The videos show different unethical situations and always have people of every race and gender in each one -- white, black, Hispanic, and Asian. After watching the video, you're then asked questions about what the regulatory or ethical violation was. In every video, the guy or woman committing the violation was white. Didn't matter if the person was playing the client engaging in money laundering, the bank president committing fraud, or the hot shot broker pushing inappropriate stocks. The wrong-doer was white, every single time.
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Capn Circus
02/03/18 10:09:00 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Capn Circus posted...
If it's supposedly being touted as a black cast, superhero movie---why not just make all characters black? Why does a white person have to be the bad guy?

Are there any movies with an all white cast and specifically a black person is the bad guy?

Of all the movies ever made, what do you think?


Well, sure maybe a long time ago. I'm talking recent films made within the past 10-20 years. Why are you having trouble coming up with a single example?
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 10:11:50 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Capn Circus posted...
If it's supposedly being touted as a black cast, superhero movie---why not just make all characters black? Why does a white person have to be the bad guy?

Are there any movies with an all white cast and specifically a black person is the bad guy?

Of all the movies ever made, what do you think?


Well, sure maybe a long time ago. I'm talking recent films made within the past 10-20 years. Why are you having trouble coming up with a single example?

I don't watch many movies. When I do it's not super hero or action ones, so there aren't any "bad guys" like that.
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WizardPowers
02/03/18 10:12:46 PM
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It looks like it's dark skin black guy vs light skin black guy.

more black on black violence smh
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Capn Circus
02/03/18 10:13:02 PM
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The Admiral posted...
This kind of thing happens with the continuing education videos that everyone in the financial services industry has to watch. The videos show different unethical situations and always have people of every race and gender in each one -- white, black, Hispanic, and Asian. After watching the video, you're then asked questions about what the regulatory or ethical violation was. In every video, the guy or woman committing the violation was white. Didn't matter if the person was playing the client engaging in money laundering, the bank president committing fraud, or the hot shot broker pushing inappropriate stocks. The wrong-doer was white, every single time.


Yes, I've noticed this. There is also not one home security commercial that anyone on CE has ever been able to show me where the burglar was black/hispanic. Always a white burglar.
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 10:14:16 PM
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The Admiral posted...
This kind of thing happens with the continuing education videos that everyone in the financial services industry has to watch. The videos show different unethical situations and always have people of every race and gender in each one -- white, black, Hispanic, and Asian. After watching the video, you're then asked questions about what the regulatory or ethical violation was. In every video, the guy or woman committing the violation was white. Didn't matter if the person was playing the client engaging in money laundering, the bank president committing fraud, or the hot shot broker pushing inappropriate stocks. The wrong-doer was white, every single time.

Yeah, I noticed that, too. Kinda sad when PC culture makes people afraid to show a minority in any bad light. I remain untriggerd, though.
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St0rmFury
02/03/18 10:14:46 PM
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Got another, Kingsman.
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Skye Reynolds
02/03/18 10:15:06 PM
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creativerealms posted...
gmanthebest posted...
The villain is Klaw, yeah?
Yeah him and I believe Erik Killmonger are the villains. Killmonger is black.


Good.

I'm not bothered by them having a black hero and a white villain, but there is a general lack of diversity among villains.
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LightningAce11
02/03/18 10:16:38 PM
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Actually, the villain is an albino African American.

https://s27.postimg.org/zf310mlsz/Krondon_Tobias_Whale_CW_Black_Lightning.jpg
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emblem boy
02/03/18 10:17:29 PM
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Like others have said, a black guy is one is the villains
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AlternativeFAQS
02/03/18 10:18:14 PM
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i didnt know michael b jordan was white
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DarthAragorn
02/03/18 10:18:16 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Actually, the villain is an albino African American.

https://s27.postimg.org/zf310mlsz/Krondon_Tobias_Whale_CW_Black_Lightning.jpg

....black panther not black lightning
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KingCrabCake
02/03/18 10:18:29 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
DarkTransient posted...
As long as they don't try to play it off that he's bad because he's white, so what?


Let's be honest, they probably will.

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Stfu
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creativerealms
02/03/18 10:18:39 PM
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My problem is it looks like they are going the "evil counterpart" route with Killmonger. That is played out in the Marvel movie universe.
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DoctorVader
02/03/18 10:19:49 PM
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This has been known since AoU.
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Roxborough4Ever
02/03/18 10:22:36 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
DarkTransient posted...
As long as they don't try to play it off that he's bad because he's white, so what?


Let's be honest, they probably will.

<_<


relax, its just a movie
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Fam_Fam
02/03/18 10:22:49 PM
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given that most people in the US are white, its statistically more likely that the bad guy is white if you selected someone from the population randomly
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billcom6
02/03/18 10:23:40 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
given that most people in the US are white, its statistically more likely that the bad guy is white if you selected someone from the population randomly

Andy Serkis isn't American though
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DarthAragorn
02/03/18 10:24:26 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
given that most people in the US are white, its statistically more likely that the bad guy is white if you selected someone from the population randomly

Andy Serkis isn't American though

And Wakanda isn't in America either
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crennigo
02/03/18 10:25:31 PM
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St0rmFury posted...
Capn Circus posted...
If it's supposedly being touted as a black cast, superhero movie---why not just make all characters black? Why does a white person have to be the bad guy?

Are there any movies with an all white cast and specifically a black person is the bad guy?

Daredevil?

Came to post this, also Dreamcatcher, Jumper, etc; you got owned Tc, so close this topic.
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UnfairRepresent
02/03/18 10:25:59 PM
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Serious question:

Has the villain in any MCU movie so far not been white?

No that black lady from Suicide Squad doesn't count.
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Zodd3224
02/03/18 10:27:33 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
If it's supposedly being touted as a black cast, superhero movie---why not just make all characters black? Why does a white person have to be the bad guy?

Are there any movies with an all white cast and specifically a black person is the bad guy?


If there was, you would say "who cares, political correctness, not everything is racism, etc."
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Skye Reynolds
02/03/18 10:28:02 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Stfu


Roxborough4Ever posted...
relax, its just a movie


I'm just being honest.

The director has said that Wakanda is what Africa would've been like were it not for colonialization and exploitation, Isaac Newton's accomplishments have been attributed to Wakandan knowledge, and the protagonist is a separatist who fears his country's resources being exploited. It seems like only the natural progression of things that the villain would be a white colonialist exploiter.

It doesn't mean taking offense at it. It just seems like the logical prediction given the circumstances.
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creativerealms
02/03/18 10:28:29 PM
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crennigo posted...
St0rmFury posted...
Capn Circus posted...
If it's supposedly being touted as a black cast, superhero movie---why not just make all characters black? Why does a white person have to be the bad guy?

Are there any movies with an all white cast and specifically a black person is the bad guy?

Daredevil?

Came to post this, also Dreamcatcher, Jumper, etc; you got owned Tc, so close this topic.

Demolition man.
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UnfairRepresent
02/03/18 10:28:30 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
If it's supposedly being touted as a black cast, superhero movie---why not just make all characters black? Why does a white person have to be the bad guy?

Are there any movies with an all white cast and specifically a black person is the bad guy?


If there was, you would say "who cares, political correctness, not everything is racism, etc."

What's funny is that Daredevil is the only one I can think of and not only is that movie terrible, SJWs whined that they made Kingpin black and comic fans whined that they changed Kingpin.
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Capn Circus
02/03/18 10:28:33 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
given that most people in the US are white, its statistically more likely that the bad guy is white if you selected someone from the population randomly


Depends on the crime. Definitely not murder, and that includes Hispanics and whites combined.
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Patchwork
02/03/18 10:29:26 PM
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It's not, though. Erik Killmonger is the villain, and Michael B. Jordan is definitely black.
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KK_the_Slider
02/03/18 10:30:20 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Serious question:

Has the villain in any MCU movie so far not been white?

No that black lady from Suicide Squad doesn't count.

How could she count? Suicide Squad isn't MCU it's DCEU.
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Zodd3224
02/03/18 10:31:18 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
If it's supposedly being touted as a black cast, superhero movie---why not just make all characters black? Why does a white person have to be the bad guy?

Are there any movies with an all white cast and specifically a black person is the bad guy?


If there was, you would say "who cares, political correctness, not everything is racism, etc."

What's funny is that Daredevil is the only one I can think of and not only is that movie terrible, SJWs whined that they made Kingpin black and comic fans whined that they changed Kingpin.


Everybody lost with that movie
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AverageCEgal
02/03/18 10:32:07 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Serious question:

Has the villain in any MCU movie so far not been white?

No that black lady from Suicide Squad doesn't count.

all the major villains are white though in the comics
and amanda waller isnt a villain she's just awesome
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Zodd3224
02/03/18 10:33:32 PM
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KK_the_Slider posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Serious question:

Has the villain in any MCU movie so far not been white?

No that black lady from Suicide Squad doesn't count.

How could she count? Suicide Squad isn't MCU it's DCEU.


How many black villains has Marvel created for them to even use? If they change a white villain to a black guy, SJWs and racists alike will lose their shit. Unless they dual cast Samuel L Jackson, cuz EVERYONE loves Samuel L Jackson.
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 10:35:37 PM
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So does it matter that there are movies with all white casts, except for the villain, TC?
Or is that different?
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Skye Reynolds
02/03/18 10:37:33 PM
#48:


Zodd3224 posted...
How many black villains has Marvel created for them to even use? If they change a white villain to a black guy, SJWs and racists alike will lose their shit. Unless they dual cast Samuel L Jackson, cuz EVERYONE loves Samuel L Jackson.


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Bishop9800
02/03/18 10:37:40 PM
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Wow... Just take a look at who's triggered by a white guy playing a villian in this topic.

Kinda makes you think......
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AverageCEgal
02/03/18 10:37:45 PM
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the problem with villains is that unlike heroes most people wanted to be the superhero as a kid
you dont get many kids saying i wanna be the bad guy that loses
they wanna be the hero that wins

thats why theres not call to make villains into different races because its not going to help get new traction

like how many times do you see like 'finally we have a french evil guy trying to take over the world. france should be proud" no it's like the fucking opposite since its insulting you to make you into the loser trying to take over the world
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