Current Events > Black Panther: does the Marvel epic solve Hollywood's Africa problem?

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YoshitoKikuchi 02/03/18 11:54:42 AM #1:	https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/03/marvel-black-panther-chadwick-boseman-michael-b-jordan --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead http://i.imgur.com/YQpeyD3.jpg <cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted [p:895373876] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/03/marvel-black-panther-chadwick-boseman-michael-b-jordan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bloodydeath0 02/03/18 11:55:06 AM #2:	yes now racism is finally dead --- http://i.imgur.com/xHbbYI6.gif http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3386905/G2-Ortiz-Slam.gif Anything too hard in life is not worth doing. -John McGuirk <cite>bloodydeath0 posted [p:895373894] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>yes now racism is finally dead</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoshitoKikuchi 02/03/18 12:01:40 PM #3:	Before Wakanda, there was Zamunda, where giraffes and elephants roam the palace gardens, the king wears a dead lion around his shoulders, and handmaidens strew the royals paths with rose petals and attend the princes every need, including the washing of the royal penis. The movie is, of course, Eddie Murphys 1988 smash hit Coming to America, whose compendium of cliches showed just how large the gap could be between African and American, and how much work Black Panther has to do. As novelist Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie put it: If all I knew about Africa were from popular images, I too would think that Africa was a place of beautiful landscapes, beautiful animals and incomprehensible people, fighting senseless wars, dying of poverty and Aids, unable to speak for themselves and waiting to be saved by a kind, white foreigner. --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead http://i.imgur.com/YQpeyD3.jpg <cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted [p:895374183] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>Before Wakanda, there was Zamunda, where giraffes and elephants roam the palace gardens, the king wears a dead lion around his shoulders, and handmaidens strew the royals paths with rose petals and attend the princes every need, including the washing of the royal penis. The movie is, of course, Eddie Murphys 1988 smash hit Coming to America, whose compendium of cliches showed just how large the gap could be between African and American, and how much work Black Panther has to do. As novelist Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie put it: If all I knew about Africa were from popular images, I too would think that Africa was a place of beautiful landscapes, beautiful animals and incomprehensible people, fighting senseless wars, dying of poverty and Aids, unable to speak for themselves and waiting to be saved by a kind, white foreigner. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 02/03/18 12:02:31 PM #4:	God damn media is making me want to skip this one --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:895374224] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>God damn media is making me want to skip this one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Joeydollaz 02/03/18 12:04:45 PM #6:	Black Spiderman, Black Superman has to be the next step --- YEAR OF 4 <cite>Joeydollaz posted [p:895374333] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>Black Spiderman, Black Superman has to be the next step</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J E S U S 02/03/18 12:06:28 PM #7:	Does black panther get a novel peace prize? --- imaginary <cite>J E S U S posted [p:895374414] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>Does black panther get a novel peace prize?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 02/03/18 12:08:59 PM #8:	Coming to America is such a great movie <cite>Romes187 posted [p:895374518] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>Coming to America is such a great movie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soulunison2 02/03/18 12:12:52 PM #9:	Joeydollaz posted... Black Spiderman, Black Superman has to be the next step Miles Morales bro <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:895374687] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Joeydollaz posted...</cite> <quote>Black Spiderman, Black Superman has to be the next step</quote> Miles Morales bro</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoshitoKikuchi 02/03/18 12:19:13 PM #10:	For many, Black Panther is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. Wakanda could be a visualisation of that black utopia pan-Africanists have dreamed of. Black Panther is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of black people that exceeds the expectations of white civilisation, that places black people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine. --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead http://i.imgur.com/YQpeyD3.jpg <cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted [p:895374986] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>For many, Black Panther is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. Wakanda could be a visualisation of that black utopia pan-Africanists have dreamed of. Black Panther is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of black people that exceeds the expectations of white civilisation, that places black people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 02/03/18 12:22:06 PM #11:	YoshitoKikuchi posted... For many, Black Panther is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. Wakanda could be a visualisation of that black utopia pan-Africanists have dreamed of. Black Panther is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of black people that exceeds the expectations of white civilisation, that places black people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine. Now replace all instances of "black" and "Africa/African" with "white" and "Europe/European" and vice versa, and tell me if it sounds racist to you. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:895375117] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted...</cite> <quote>For many, Black Panther is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. Wakanda could be a visualisation of that black utopia pan-Africanists have dreamed of. Black Panther is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of black people that exceeds the expectations of white civilisation, that places black people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine.</quote> Now replace all instances of "black" and "Africa/African" with "white" and "Europe/European" and vice versa, and tell me if it sounds racist to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 02/03/18 12:25:30 PM #12:	Romes187 posted... Coming to America is such a great movie my favorite movie, tbh --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:895375294] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote>Coming to America is such a great movie</quote> my favorite movie, tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 02/03/18 12:25:42 PM #13:	YoshitoKikuchi posted... For many, Black Panther is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. Wakanda could be a visualisation of that black utopia pan-Africanists have dreamed of. Black Panther is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of black people that exceeds the expectations of white civilisation, that places black people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine. If those pesky white people only left Africa alone, it would be a technological powerhouse above the rest of the world. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:895375298] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted...</cite> <quote>For many, Black Panther is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. Wakanda could be a visualisation of that black utopia pan-Africanists have dreamed of. Black Panther is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of black people that exceeds the expectations of white civilisation, that places black people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine.</quote> If those pesky white people only left Africa alone, it would be a technological powerhouse above the rest of the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 02/03/18 12:27:14 PM #14:	^ that's not necessarily the case, but it can't be denied that colonialism didn't rob Africans of their sense of autonomy --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:895375360] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>^ that's not necessarily the case, but it can't be denied that colonialism didn't rob Africans of their sense of autonomy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 02/03/18 12:28:50 PM #15:	DarthAragorn posted... God damn media is making me want to skip this one Or just ignore the stupid things and enjoy the movie --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 Beta 2 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:895375437] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>God damn media is making me want to skip this one</quote> Or just ignore the stupid things and enjoy the movie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 02/03/18 12:29:05 PM #16:	boxington posted... ^ that's not necessarily the case, but it can't be denied that colonialism didn't rob Africans of their sense of autonomy And then they got it back like everyone else who was colonized. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:895375446] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>^ that's not necessarily the case, but it can't be denied that colonialism didn't rob Africans of their sense of autonomy</quote> And then they got it back like everyone else who was colonized.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 02/03/18 12:31:26 PM #17:	weapon_d00d816 posted... Now replace all instances of "black" and "Africa/African" with "white" and "Europe/European" and vice versa, and tell me if it sounds racist to you. For many, White Cougar is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. AryanLand could be a visualisation of that white utopia pan-Europeans have dreamed of. White Cougar is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of white people that exceeds the expectations of black civilisation, that places white people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine. You're right in that the first part of it "white utopia" sounds racist, but the rest of it imagines a world where white people are not the majority. Unfortunately white people and black people do not have an equal history. It's a common misconception that acknowledging these differences means that you're racist. It's why some people struggle to understand why there's a black history month. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:895375563] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Now replace all instances of "black" and "Africa/African" with "white" and "Europe/European" and vice versa, and tell me if it sounds racist to you. </quote> For many, White Cougar is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. AryanLand could be a visualisation of that white utopia pan-Europeans have dreamed of. White Cougar is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of white people that exceeds the expectations of black civilisation, that places white people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine. You're right in that the first part of it "white utopia" sounds racist, but the rest of it imagines a world where white people are not the majority. Unfortunately white people and black people do not have an equal history. It's a common misconception that acknowledging these differences means that you're racist. It's why some people struggle to understand why there's a black history month.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 02/03/18 12:32:46 PM #18:	it's not like you can get over there effects of strong western influence so easily. also, look up how the Cold War influenced Africa (and other developing nations) and "neo-colonialism" --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:895375619] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>it's not like you can get over there effects of strong western influence so easily. also, look up how the Cold War influenced Africa (and other developing nations) and "neo-colonialism"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 02/03/18 12:34:24 PM #19:	weapon_d00d816 posted... boxington posted... ^ that's not necessarily the case, but it can't be denied that colonialism didn't rob Africans of their sense of autonomy And then they got it back like everyone else who was colonized. True, but i think some people also forget how recent that's been for many countries --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 Beta 2 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:895375702] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote> ^ that's not necessarily the case, but it can't be denied that colonialism didn't rob Africans of their sense of autonomy</quote> And then they got it back like everyone else who was colonized.</quote> True, but i think some people also forget how recent that's been for many countries</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 02/03/18 12:38:49 PM #20:	boxington posted... it's not like you can get over there effects of strong western influence so easily. also, look up how the Cold War influenced Africa (and other developing nations) and "neo-colonialism" To be fair it seems like Africa is still in a state of tribal warfare. You still have multiple tribes fighting, but now they're using modern weaponry to try and gain control. Then there's the population issue. They are seriously having too many kids. That continent is ripe for a plague, famine or civil war due to the sheer amount of people that keep being added yearly. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:895375887] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>it's not like you can get over there effects of strong western influence so easily. also, look up how the Cold War influenced Africa (and other developing nations) and "neo-colonialism"</quote> To be fair it seems like Africa is still in a state of tribal warfare. You still have multiple tribes fighting, but now they're using modern weaponry to try and gain control. Then there's the population issue. They are seriously having too many kids. That continent is ripe for a plague, famine or civil war due to the sheer amount of people that keep being added yearly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 02/03/18 12:44:13 PM #21:	maybe I'm wrong, but idk if tribal war is as much of an issue anymore, but instead religious extremism, and messed up old beliefs in some places (like believing in witches) but despite a lot of bad, many places in Africa are developing in their own right, so there's a lot to be hopeful for --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:895376139] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>maybe I'm wrong, but idk if tribal war is as much of an issue anymore, but instead religious extremism, and messed up old beliefs in some places (like believing in witches) but despite a lot of bad, many places in Africa are developing in their own right, so there's a lot to be hopeful for</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apocalyptic_4 02/03/18 12:44:26 PM #22:	weapon_d00d816 posted... YoshitoKikuchi posted... For many, Black Panther is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. Wakanda could be a visualisation of that black utopia pan-Africanists have dreamed of. Black Panther is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of black people that exceeds the expectations of white civilisation, that places black people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine. Now replace all instances of "black" and "Africa/African" with "white" and "Europe/European" and vice versa, and tell me if it sounds racist to you. Does that statement already sound racist to you? --- PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:895376152] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted...</cite> <quote>For many, Black Panther is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. Wakanda could be a visualisation of that black utopia pan-Africanists have dreamed of. Black Panther is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of black people that exceeds the expectations of white civilisation, that places black people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine.</quote> Now replace all instances of "black" and "Africa/African" with "white" and "Europe/European" and vice versa, and tell me if it sounds racist to you.</quote> Does that statement already sound racist to you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 02/03/18 12:45:10 PM #23:	These articles always make me want to revisit the films they're knocking. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:895376194] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>These articles always make me want to revisit the films they're knocking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/03/18 1:16:46 PM #24:	in the marvel universe, 90% of Africa is still like it is in the real world. Wakanda is the only paradise, and they are shut off from the world, even the rest of Africa. so I don't get why people are so excited about this. it's not like they are propping up a real country. it's a fake one that doesn't share it's success with any of the real countries. no real life black person has any connection to Wakanda. if it was in our world, black people would be just as foreign to Wakanda as white people. because only Wakandans can enter Wakanda. <cite>Zikten posted [p:895377759] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>in the marvel universe, 90% of Africa is still like it is in the real world. Wakanda is the only paradise, and they are shut off from the world, even the rest of Africa. so I don't get why people are so excited about this. it's not like they are propping up a real country. it's a fake one that doesn't share it's success with any of the real countries. no real life black person has any connection to Wakanda. if it was in our world, black people would be just as foreign to Wakanda as white people. because only Wakandans can enter Wakanda.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soulunison2 02/03/18 1:25:37 PM #25:	Zikten posted... in the marvel universe, 90% of Africa is still like it is in the real world. Wakanda is the only paradise, and they are shut off from the world, even the rest of Africa. so I don't get why people are so excited about this. it's not like they are propping up a real country. it's a fake one that doesn't share it's success with any of the real countries. no real life black person has any connection to Wakanda. if it was in our world, black people would be just as foreign to Wakanda as white people. because only Wakandans can enter Wakanda. In a world where gods and demons are running around this is your complaint? Lmao <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:895378201] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>in the marvel universe, 90% of Africa is still like it is in the real world. Wakanda is the only paradise, and they are shut off from the world, even the rest of Africa. so I don't get why people are so excited about this. it's not like they are propping up a real country. it's a fake one that doesn't share it's success with any of the real countries. no real life black person has any connection to Wakanda. if it was in our world, black people would be just as foreign to Wakanda as white people. because only Wakandans can enter Wakanda.</quote> In a world where gods and demons are running around this is your complaint? Lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/03/18 1:47:48 PM #26:	Gods and demons have nothing to do with this situation. And the complaint isn't about the marvel world. It's about our world. You didn't understand what I was saying at all <cite>Zikten posted [p:895379331] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>Gods and demons have nothing to do with this situation. And the complaint isn't about the marvel world. It's about our world. You didn't understand what I was saying at all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoshitoKikuchi 02/03/18 7:02:16 PM #27:	bump --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead http://i.imgur.com/YQpeyD3.jpg <cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted [p:895395978] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zH0mPfR 02/03/18 7:04:03 PM #28:	I'm more concerned about Hollywood's Asian problem. --- https://youtu.be/CFb29vz3IXg https://youtu.be/C9vSXxAzK_4 https://youtu.be/9Z9i51px37o https://i.imgur.com/kgDSVVb.jpg <cite>zH0mPfR posted [p:895396060] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>I'm more concerned about Hollywood's Asian problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 02/03/18 7:06:05 PM #29:	There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in) Americans in general have ridiculous notions/stereotypes about Africa, lol. I don't know if we can do something about the fact that the average American is very ignorant when it comes to the rest of the world... it's something I've been railing against my whole life. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:895396149] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in) Americans in general have ridiculous notions/stereotypes about Africa, lol. I don't know if we can do something about the fact that the average American is very ignorant when it comes to the rest of the world... it's something I've been railing against my whole life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 02/03/18 7:10:08 PM #30:	Sativa_Rose posted... There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in) You realize the continent of Africa has a film industry, right? --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:895396361] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in)</quote> You realize the continent of Africa has a film industry, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 02/03/18 7:19:39 PM #31:	Paper_Okami posted... Sativa_Rose posted... There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in) You realize the continent of Africa has a film industry, right? That's why I made sure to say American movies. I know there's like a Nigerian bollywood or something called Nollywood, plus plenty of movies from other countries there too I am sure, but none of this penetrates into the mainstream American media. Literally none of it, unfortunately. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:895396877] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in)</quote> You realize the continent of Africa has a film industry, right?</quote> That's why I made sure to say American movies. I know there's like a Nigerian bollywood or something called Nollywood, plus plenty of movies from other countries there too I am sure, but none of this penetrates into the mainstream American media. Literally none of it, unfortunately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zH0mPfR 02/03/18 7:22:39 PM #32:	Paper_Okami posted... Sativa_Rose posted... There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in) You realize the continent of Africa has a film industry, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BymeLkZ7GqM --- https://youtu.be/CFb29vz3IXg https://youtu.be/C9vSXxAzK_4 https://youtu.be/9Z9i51px37o https://i.imgur.com/kgDSVVb.jpg <cite>zH0mPfR posted [p:895397055] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in)</quote> You realize the continent of Africa has a film industry, right?</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BymeLkZ7GqM</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 02/03/18 7:25:43 PM #33:	Sativa_Rose posted... Paper_Okami posted... Sativa_Rose posted... There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in) You realize the continent of Africa has a film industry, right? That's why I made sure to say American movies. I know there's like a Nigerian bollywood or something called Nollywood, plus plenty of movies from other countries there too I am sure, but none of this penetrates into the mainstream American media. Literally none of it, unfortunately. Well i'm saying if you want to see movies about Africa, don't wait for Americans to make it. Seek out African films --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:895397216] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in)</quote> You realize the continent of Africa has a film industry, right?</quote> That's why I made sure to say American movies. I know there's like a Nigerian bollywood or something called Nollywood, plus plenty of movies from other countries there too I am sure, but none of this penetrates into the mainstream American media. Literally none of it, unfortunately.</quote> Well i'm saying if you want to see movies about Africa, don't wait for Americans to make it. Seek out African films</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 02/03/18 7:29:02 PM #34:	zH0mPfR posted... Paper_Okami posted... Sativa_Rose posted... There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in) You realize the continent of Africa has a film industry, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BymeLkZ7GqM Really not trying to hide it SMAL. America has shitty low budget movies too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeelen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Girl_(1966_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touki_Bouki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wend_Kuuni --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:895397406] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>zH0mPfR posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in)</quote> You realize the continent of Africa has a film industry, right?</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BymeLkZ7GqM</quote> Really not trying to hide it SMAL. America has shitty low budget movies too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeelen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Girl_(1966_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touki_Bouki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wend_Kuuni</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 02/03/18 7:29:08 PM #35:	Paper_Okami posted... Well i'm saying if you want to see movies about Africa, don't wait for Americans to make it. Seek out African films I'm not talking about myself though. I'm already aware of this stuff. I'm talking about the rest of America. I'm explaining why most Americans have such ridiculous conceptions of contemporary Africa. Their only exposure to it is those 50 cents a day commercials. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:895397412] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>Well i'm saying if you want to see movies about Africa, don't wait for Americans to make it. Seek out African films </quote> I'm not talking about myself though. I'm already aware of this stuff. I'm talking about the rest of America. I'm explaining why most Americans have such ridiculous conceptions of contemporary Africa. Their only exposure to it is those 50 cents a day commercials.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
50Blessings 02/03/18 7:30:58 PM #36:	I think I'm going to skip Black Panther in the theaters I feel that some crazy shit is going to go down with how everyone is acting about it. --- America is a tune. It must be sung together. --50 Blessings https://i.imgur.com/xKI9rbb.jpg <cite>50Blessings posted [p:895397504] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>I think I'm going to skip Black Panther in the theaters I feel that some crazy shit is going to go down with how everyone is acting about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 02/03/18 7:32:04 PM #37:	50Blessings posted... I think I'm going to skip Black Panther in the theaters I feel that some crazy shit is going to go down with how everyone is acting about it. What is it about the movie that is making people act out? --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:895397564] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote>I think I'm going to skip Black Panther in the theaters I feel that some crazy shit is going to go down with how everyone is acting about it.</quote> What is it about the movie that is making people act out?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zH0mPfR 02/03/18 7:33:32 PM #38:	Paper_Okami posted... zH0mPfR posted... Paper_Okami posted... Sativa_Rose posted... There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in) You realize the continent of Africa has a film industry, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BymeLkZ7GqM Really not trying to hide it SMAL. America has shitty low budget movies too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeelen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Girl_(1966_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touki_Bouki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wend_Kuuni What is "SMAL"? Also, Who Killed Captain Alex is a four star film. I don't know what you're blabbing about. --- https://youtu.be/CFb29vz3IXg https://youtu.be/C9vSXxAzK_4 https://youtu.be/9Z9i51px37o https://i.imgur.com/kgDSVVb.jpg <cite>zH0mPfR posted [p:895397650] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>zH0mPfR posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>There just aren't many American movies that take place in contemporary Africa (an area I am very interested in)</quote> You realize the continent of Africa has a film industry, right?</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BymeLkZ7GqM</quote> Really not trying to hide it SMAL. America has shitty low budget movies too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeelen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Girl_(1966_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touki_Bouki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wend_Kuuni</quote> What is "SMAL"? Also, Who Killed Captain Alex is a four star film. I don't know what you're blabbing about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 02/03/18 7:39:26 PM #39:	zH0mPfR posted... Also, Who Killed Captain Alex is a four star film. I don't know what you're blabbing about. Uganda is just one of over 50 countries on the African continent though. You wouldn't watch a movie made in Panama and then make judgments about movies made in Canada from that, would you? --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:895397916] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>zH0mPfR posted...</cite> <quote>Also, Who Killed Captain Alex is a four star film. I don't know what you're blabbing about. </quote> Uganda is just one of over 50 countries on the African continent though. You wouldn't watch a movie made in Panama and then make judgments about movies made in Canada from that, would you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zH0mPfR 02/03/18 7:44:13 PM #40:	Sativa_Rose posted... zH0mPfR posted... Also, Who Killed Captain Alex is a four star film. I don't know what you're blabbing about. Uganda is just one of over 50 countries on the African continent though. You wouldn't watch a movie made in Panama and then make judgments about movies made in Canada from that, would you? Who's making judgments other than you? --- https://youtu.be/CFb29vz3IXg https://youtu.be/C9vSXxAzK_4 https://youtu.be/9Z9i51px37o https://i.imgur.com/kgDSVVb.jpg <cite>zH0mPfR posted [p:895398166] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>zH0mPfR posted...</cite> <quote>Also, Who Killed Captain Alex is a four star film. I don't know what you're blabbing about. </quote> Uganda is just one of over 50 countries on the African continent though. You wouldn't watch a movie made in Panama and then make judgments about movies made in Canada from that, would you?</quote> Who's making judgments other than you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
50Blessings 02/03/18 7:55:30 PM #41:	Sativa_Rose posted... What is it about the movie that is making people act out? Racism, I guess? I dunno, I just get a bad feeling that screenings are going to be targets of some nasty shit. --- America is a tune. It must be sung together. --50 Blessings https://i.imgur.com/xKI9rbb.jpg <cite>50Blessings posted [p:895398770] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>What is it about the movie that is making people act out?</quote> Racism, I guess? I dunno, I just get a bad feeling that screenings are going to be targets of some nasty shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bagamak 02/03/18 8:06:48 PM #42:	50Blessings posted... Sativa_Rose posted... What is it about the movie that is making people act out? Racism, I guess? I dunno, I just get a bad feeling that screenings are going to be targets of some nasty shit. the movie is being praised and used as politial ammo even though it hasn't even come out yet. a whole tone of people are going to watch this movie as their first MCU film ever, even though it looks by all accounts to just be an average installment in the franchise. Most of them will probably not watch any of the other movies in the MCU, and will only return for Black Panther 2. they won't even watch Infinity War, ironically, even though he is in that. because they won't know he's in it. <cite>Bagamak posted [p:895399377] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>What is it about the movie that is making people act out?</quote> Racism, I guess? I dunno, I just get a bad feeling that screenings are going to be targets of some nasty shit.</quote> the movie is being praised and used as politial ammo even though it hasn't even come out yet. a whole tone of people are going to watch this movie as their first MCU film ever, even though it looks by all accounts to just be an average installment in the franchise. Most of them will probably not watch any of the other movies in the MCU, and will only return for Black Panther 2. they won't even watch Infinity War, ironically, even though he is in that. because they won't know he's in it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoshitoKikuchi 02/04/18 12:49:42 AM #43:	50Blessings posted... I think I'm going to skip Black Panther in the theaters I feel that some crazy shit is going to go down with how everyone is acting about it. I doubt it. --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead http://i.imgur.com/YQpeyD3.jpg <cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted [p:895414700] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote>I think I'm going to skip Black Panther in the theaters I feel that some crazy shit is going to go down with how everyone is acting about it.</quote> I doubt it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/04/18 12:54:38 AM #44:	Romes187 posted... Coming to America is such a great movie Any movie with James Earl Jones is automatically great. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:895414901] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote>Coming to America is such a great movie</quote> Any movie with James Earl Jones is automatically great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 02/04/18 1:29:13 AM #45:	Hinakuluiau posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Now replace all instances of "black" and "Africa/African" with "white" and "Europe/European" and vice versa, and tell me if it sounds racist to you. For many, White Cougar is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. AryanLand could be a visualisation of that white utopia pan-Europeans have dreamed of. White Cougar is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of white people that exceeds the expectations of black civilisation, that places white people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine. You're right in that the first part of it "white utopia" sounds racist, but the rest of it imagines a world where white people are not the majority. Unfortunately white people and black people do not have an equal history. It's a common misconception that acknowledging these differences means that you're racist. It's why some people struggle to understand why there's a black history month. White people are already not the majority in the current world we live in. We don't need to imagine it --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:895416310] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hinakuluiau posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Now replace all instances of "black" and "Africa/African" with "white" and "Europe/European" and vice versa, and tell me if it sounds racist to you. </quote> For many, White Cougar is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. AryanLand could be a visualisation of that white utopia pan-Europeans have dreamed of. White Cougar is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of white people that exceeds the expectations of black civilisation, that places white people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine. You're right in that the first part of it "white utopia" sounds racist, but the rest of it imagines a world where white people are not the majority. Unfortunately white people and black people do not have an equal history. It's a common misconception that acknowledging these differences means that you're racist. It's why some people struggle to understand why there's a black history month.</quote> White people are already not the majority in the current world we live in. We don't need to imagine it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 02/04/18 1:33:05 AM #47:	Joeydollaz posted... Black Spiderman, Black Superman has to be the next step What about Black Batman? Would he just be called Blackman for short? --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:895416452] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Joeydollaz posted...</cite> <quote>Black Spiderman, Black Superman has to be the next step</quote> What about Black Batman? Would he just be called Blackman for short?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 02/04/18 1:44:56 AM #48:	ThyCorndog posted... Joeydollaz posted... Black Spiderman, Black Superman has to be the next step What about Black Batman? Would he just be called Blackman for short? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batwing_(DC_Comics) <cite>Tezlok posted [p:895416897] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Joeydollaz posted...</cite> <quote>Black Spiderman, Black Superman has to be the next step</quote> What about Black Batman? Would he just be called Blackman for short?</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batwing_(DC_Comics)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoshitoKikuchi 02/04/18 8:55:21 PM #49:	Heh --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead http://i.imgur.com/YQpeyD3.jpg <cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted [p:895466909] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>Heh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
545x39 02/04/18 8:56:52 PM #50:	Does it solve any of Africas problems? --- Freya weeps upon her golden throne. https://i.imgtc.com/dD8IIcQ.jpg <cite>545x39 posted [p:895467008] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote>Does it solve any of Africas problems?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
medzz 02/04/18 9:08:41 PM #51:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... YoshitoKikuchi posted... For many, Black Panther is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. Wakanda could be a visualisation of that black utopia pan-Africanists have dreamed of. Black Panther is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of black people that exceeds the expectations of white civilisation, that places black people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine. If those pesky white people only left Africa alone, it would be a technological powerhouse above the rest of the world. Didn't black people sell their own into slavery and are still doing it today? --- Hi <cite>medzz posted [p:895468085] in Black Pant... [t:76277579]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted...</cite> <quote>For many, Black Panther is more than just another blockbuster; it is a cultural moment. Wakanda could be a visualisation of that black utopia pan-Africanists have dreamed of. Black Panther is the beautiful aesthetic climax of just that ideology, says Boyd-Pates. That paradigm of black people that exceeds the expectations of white civilisation, that places black people in a place similar in their minds to what they always felt they were robbed of, and connects them back to the motherland in a way no colonial effort could ever undermine.</quote> If those pesky white people only left Africa alone, it would be a technological powerhouse above the rest of the world.</quote> Didn't black people sell their own into slavery and are still doing it today?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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