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Caution998
02/03/18 10:39:50 AM
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Remember during the medieval times in Europe they became evil for some reason?

They started killing cats and it ultimately lead to the Black Plague since it was spread through the rats.

What idiots.
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weapon_d00d816
02/03/18 10:41:45 AM
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Caution998 posted...
Remember during the medieval times in Europe they became evil for some reason?

They started killing cats and it ultimately lead to the Black Plague since it was spread through the rats.

What idiots.

Didn't they recently discover it was just another human disease and rats were uninvolved?
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TheGrindery
02/03/18 10:44:18 AM
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Importance doesn't actually exist.
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ItsYourFault
02/03/18 10:44:49 AM
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TheGrindery posted...
Importance doesn't actually exist.

Thanks Morpheus
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TheGrindery
02/03/18 10:46:20 AM
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ItsYourFault posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Importance doesn't actually exist.

Thanks Morpheus

Show it to me on the periodic table of elements.
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 10:50:55 AM
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TheGrindery posted...
ItsYourFault posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Importance doesn't actually exist.

Thanks Morpheus

Show it to me on the periodic table of elements.

6pZDVTH
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TheGrindery
02/03/18 10:53:03 AM
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LOL
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weapon_d00d816
02/03/18 10:55:54 AM
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TheGrindery posted...
Importance doesn't actually exist.

Importance is a concept, and you just proved it exists because you just talked about it.
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Doe
02/03/18 10:57:22 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Didn't they recently discover it was just another human disease and rats were uninvolved?

I think it's pretty indisputable science that the plague was carried in fleas which were hosted by rats.

Quick google-fu shows only a dailymail article arguing otherwise

There does seem to be new evidence that it was also or exclusively in human fleas and lice but it was carried by flea-types nonetheless
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Boo_Guy
02/03/18 10:58:19 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Importance doesn't actually exist.

Importance is a concept, and you just proved it exists because you just talked about it.

What? A flying spaghetti monster can exist as a concept. Doesn't mean it ACTUALLY exists!
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weapon_d00d816
02/03/18 11:00:47 AM
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Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Importance doesn't actually exist.

Importance is a concept, and you just proved it exists because you just talked about it.

What? A flying spaghetti monster can exist as a concept. Doesn't mean it ACTUALLY exists!

That would be the concept of a physical thing. Importance is the concept of a social construct.
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 11:01:19 AM
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Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Importance doesn't actually exist.

Importance is a concept, and you just proved it exists because you just talked about it.

What? A flying spaghetti monster can exist as a concept. Doesn't mean it ACTUALLY exists!

It exists as a concept, because it's a concept.
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L0Z
02/03/18 11:02:49 AM
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Boo_Guy
02/03/18 11:03:16 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Importance doesn't actually exist.

Importance is a concept, and you just proved it exists because you just talked about it.

What? A flying spaghetti monster can exist as a concept. Doesn't mean it ACTUALLY exists!

That would be the concept of a physical thing. Importance is the concept of a social construct.

It's something we pretend exists within our species but actually doesn't in the neutral space and existence of the universe.
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weapon_d00d816
02/03/18 11:05:43 AM
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Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Importance doesn't actually exist.

Importance is a concept, and you just proved it exists because you just talked about it.

What? A flying spaghetti monster can exist as a concept. Doesn't mean it ACTUALLY exists!

That would be the concept of a physical thing. Importance is the concept of a social construct.

It's something we pretend exists within our species but actually doesn't in the neutral space and existence of the universe.

I think you have trouble understanding what existence is. Categorized interactions are just as real as physical material.
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 11:07:01 AM
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Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Importance doesn't actually exist.

Importance is a concept, and you just proved it exists because you just talked about it.

What? A flying spaghetti monster can exist as a concept. Doesn't mean it ACTUALLY exists!

That would be the concept of a physical thing. Importance is the concept of a social construct.

It's something we pretend exists within our species but actually doesn't in the neutral space and existence of the universe.

All our thoughts actually exist because they happened.
It's not science, it's philosophy.
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Boo_Guy
02/03/18 11:07:37 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Importance doesn't actually exist.

Importance is a concept, and you just proved it exists because you just talked about it.

What? A flying spaghetti monster can exist as a concept. Doesn't mean it ACTUALLY exists!

That would be the concept of a physical thing. Importance is the concept of a social construct.

It's something we pretend exists within our species but actually doesn't in the neutral space and existence of the universe.

I think you have trouble understanding what existence is. Categorized interactions are just as real as physical material.

No, because you can't show me what importance is. You can call something important, but it doesn't make it so. Just like any concept, it's man made and doesn't really exist.

You're seriously telling me that Bugs Bunny, God, and Superman are real LMAO
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TheGrindery
02/03/18 11:10:00 AM
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Nothing is objectively important. Not even life.
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ThyCorndog
02/03/18 11:10:10 AM
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whats cat up to
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Lordgold666
02/03/18 11:11:10 AM
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TheGrindery posted...
Nothing is objectively important. Not even life.

My cat is tho
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 11:11:17 AM
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TheGrindery posted...
Nothing is objectively important. Not even life.

True.
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myzz7
02/03/18 11:12:16 AM
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TheGrindery posted...
Nothing is objectively important. Not even life.

Life is important to living beings and that's enough to justify it / protect it and so on.
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TheGrindery
02/03/18 11:13:27 AM
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myzz7 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Nothing is objectively important. Not even life.

Life is important to living beings and that's enough to justify it / protect it and so on.

And in the interest of my continued existence, I value life. I also recognize that it doesn't give it objective importance, though.
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weapon_d00d816
02/03/18 11:16:16 AM
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Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Importance doesn't actually exist.

Importance is a concept, and you just proved it exists because you just talked about it.

What? A flying spaghetti monster can exist as a concept. Doesn't mean it ACTUALLY exists!

That would be the concept of a physical thing. Importance is the concept of a social construct.

It's something we pretend exists within our species but actually doesn't in the neutral space and existence of the universe.

I think you have trouble understanding what existence is. Categorized interactions are just as real as physical material.

No, because you can't show me what importance is. You can call something important, but it doesn't make it so. Just like any concept, it's man made and doesn't really exist.

You're seriously telling me that Bugs Bunny, God, and Superman are real LMAO

Again, you have a childish idea of what "real" is. You're confusing it with "tangible", and also with "objective".

Fictional characters are real because...well...you just thought about them. That isn't the same as them existing in physical form somewhere. That's not what we're saying when a concept is real.
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myzz7
02/03/18 11:21:01 AM
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TheGrindery posted...
And in the interest of my continued existence, I value life. I also recognize that it doesn't give it objective importance, though.

Difference is I recognize it as objective.
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TheGrindery
02/03/18 11:25:07 AM
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myzz7 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
And in the interest of my continued existence, I value life. I also recognize that it doesn't give it objective importance, though.

Difference is I recognize it as objective.

Because "God" says so?

And cats MIGHT actually be important because..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rrXR6n0RTY
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Boo_Guy
02/03/18 11:25:17 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Again, you have a childish idea of what "real" is. You're confusing it with "tangible", and also with "objective".

Fictional characters are real because...well...you just thought about them. That isn't the same as them existing in physical form somewhere. That's not what we're saying when a concept is real.

"Childish"? I like how you're trying to get personal. Maybe that annoyance feeling that someone on a message board is giving you is real!

Also? I bolded the part that makes you look fucking ridiculous. The literal definition of fiction is "not real"
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weapon_d00d816
02/03/18 11:26:52 AM
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Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Again, you have a childish idea of what "real" is. You're confusing it with "tangible", and also with "objective".

Fictional characters are real because...well...you just thought about them. That isn't the same as them existing in physical form somewhere. That's not what we're saying when a concept is real.

"Childish"? I like how you're trying to get personal. Maybe that annoyance feeling that someone on a message board is giving you is real!

Also? I bolded the part that makes you look fucking ridiculous. The literal definition of fiction is "not real"

You bolded it because it completely changes the context I know
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Boo_Guy
02/03/18 11:27:33 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
You bolded it because it completely changes the context I know

Fiction is not real, point blank.
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weapon_d00d816
02/03/18 11:28:56 AM
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Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
You bolded it because it completely changes the context I know

Fiction is not real, point blank.

Depending

on

c o n t e x t
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 11:28:59 AM
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@Boo_Guy

Using science, prove you exist.
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TheGrindery
02/03/18 11:32:49 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Grindery, I think you've got some misguided philosophical views. Did you just take a philosophy class or something?

Nope. I just pay attention. How am I so misguided by not seeing the world in such a self-serving fashion?
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Boo_Guy
02/03/18 11:37:49 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
You bolded it because it completely changes the context I know

Fiction is not real, point blank.

Depending

on

c o n t e x t

Let me break it down for you, because clesrly you think the mind holds importance beyond its function.

Thoughts are not real. Concepts and theories are not real. The mind's only evolutionary purpose is to assist creatures in navigating existence, to provide a compass, so that they may survive. That's it.

All the concepts and bullshit meanings you attach to anything are simply the mind's tool to helping you categorize patterns and assist you in survival. It's a function that provides the illusion of "real". Once you (and all of humanity) dies, all of those supposed real concepts die as well. But the universe continues existing.
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TheGrindery
02/03/18 11:39:35 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Grindery, I think you've got some misguided philosophical views. Did you just take a philosophy class or something?

Nope. I just pay attention. How am I so misguided by not seeing the world in such a self-serving fashion?


You have staunch, unmovable views (from what I can see here and a few other topics) and it looks like your pendulum of ideals has swung far to one side.

Well considering that, assuming warp drives can't be done, the majority of existence is moving away from us faster than the speed of light and even equal to light travel is impossible by the very nature of the universe.... how can I find it to be important?

We're locked out of almost all of existence. Eventually the local group of galaxies will form into one and everything else will be so far away that future generations won't even be able to tell that other galaxies have ever existed when they look to the sky.

But yeah shit matters. lol
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 11:40:49 AM
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Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
You bolded it because it completely changes the context I know

Fiction is not real, point blank.

Depending

on

c o n t e x t

Let me break it down for you, because clesrly you think the mind holds importance beyond its function.

The mind's only evolutionary purpose is to assist creatures in navigating existence, to provide a compass, so that they may survive. That's it.

All the concepts and bullshit meanings you attach to anything are simply the mind's tool to helping you categorize patterns and assist you in survival. It's a function that provides the illusion of "real". Once you (and all of humanity) dies, all of those supposed real concepts die as well. But the universe continues existing.

All of this is true, but doesn't prove thoughts aren't real.
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weapon_d00d816
02/03/18 11:42:15 AM
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Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Boo_Guy posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
You bolded it because it completely changes the context I know

Fiction is not real, point blank.

Depending

on

c o n t e x t

Let me break it down for you, because clesrly you think the mind holds importance beyond its function.

Thoughts are not real. Concepts and theories are not real. The mind's only evolutionary purpose is to assist creatures in navigating existence, to provide a compass, so that they may survive. That's it.

All the concepts and bullshit meanings you attach to anything are simply the mind's tool to helping you categorize patterns and assist you in survival. It's a function that provides the illusion of "real". Once you (and all of humanity) dies, all of those supposed real concepts die as well. But the universe continues existing.

Again, you are having trouble with some really basic context. That's literally all this is right now.

(Also, thoughts are physically real. They are the electrical/chemical interactions between neurons in your brain)
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TheGrindery
02/03/18 11:43:35 AM
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I'm just saying it's a subjective thing that varies from person to person rather than a real thing.
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Boo_Guy
02/03/18 11:49:14 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
This is not correct. Something isn't required to be tangible in order to exist.

The existence we live in is tangible... as conscious creatures though, we're able to function through intangible means (thoughts, planning) to get the tangibles that we require to exist (food, water, sex). In a sense, yes, intangibles exist for the organism as an important survival tool. But outside of the organism's mind they do not exist. Just merely talking about the concept of importance does not prove its existence, like weapond00d seems to think.
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 11:51:07 AM
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Boo_Guy posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
This is not correct. Something isn't required to be tangible in order to exist.

The existence we live in is tangible... as conscious creatures though, we're able to function through intangible means (thoughts, planning) to get the tangibles that we require to exist (food, water, sex). In a sense, yes, intangibles exist for the organism as an important survival tool. But outside of the organism's mind they do not exist. Just merely talking about the concept of importance does not prove its existence, like weapond00d seems to think.

Prove it.
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Boo_Guy
02/03/18 11:51:41 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Again, you are having trouble with some really basic context. That's literally all this is right now.

(Also, thoughts are physically real. They are the electrical/chemical interactions between neurons in your brain)

You have nothing to dispute and add to your claim, you're basically just repeating "you don't get it." I think you're done here.

Yes, thoughts are real in a literal tangible sense as well, but the meanings we place on them are not real.
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LordRazziel
02/03/18 11:54:23 AM
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I had the idea to move my chair an inch to the left.
The universe has forever changed.
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GeneralZhao
02/03/18 11:56:17 AM
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Cats >philosophy
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TheGrindery
02/03/18 11:58:44 AM
#50:


GeneralZhao posted...
Cats >philosophy


'Magine...
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