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WizardPowers 02/04/18 5:44:38 PM #151: |
TrueNeutral posted...
How many cops do you hear about in the news? Think about it. Only cops that end up in the news do bad shit? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 02/04/18 5:46:19 PM #152: |
Tezlok posted...
ok so Darkrpince, what would you do in this situation? As a police officer? Nothing, legally I have no reasonable suspicion. I would be violating his amendment rights. Looking nervous and twitchy isn't a crime. --- Cubs, Rockies, Grizzlies, Patriots. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tezlok 02/04/18 5:46:50 PM #153: |
I am not saying all cops are bad. but enough of them are to be a huge problem. and the good ones refuse to tattle on their coworkers. there is a culture among cops that makes them keep secrets and defend each other no matter what
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KingCrabCake 02/04/18 5:48:00 PM #154: |
Tezlok posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Tezlok posted...basically someday I am going to be walking to the store to buy some food. and a cop will approach me to ask me a question. I will be super freaked out because I don't like talking to strangers. and I will make some kind of movement with my hands while I'm talking and suddenly the cop will pull out his gun and scream a dozen commands in my face in the span of 3 seconds. I will struggle to obey all the conflicting commands and then the cop will shoot me in the head. Well majority of the shit you been posting have beens lies and exaggerations ...so ya --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/04/18 5:48:12 PM #155: |
Tezlok posted...
I am not saying all cops are bad. but enough of them are to be a huge problem. and the good ones refuse to tattle on their coworkers. there is a culture among cops that makes them keep secrets and defend each other no matter what Nope --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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superXY 02/04/18 5:50:31 PM #156: |
I sort of had sympathy for the police until that recent video of that guy being told to crawl on his knees at gunpoint and then being killed like a dog by some fucking sociopathic military reject cop for no reason. That guy got acquitted by the way.
The system is entirely broken and entirely in the police's favor. Even if you are completely in the right and get killed by a cop, that cop will not go to prison. --- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 02/04/18 5:59:48 PM #157: |
superXY posted...
I sort of had sympathy for the police until that recent video of that guy being told to crawl on his knees at gunpoint and then being killed like a dog by some fucking sociopathic military reject cop for no reason. That guy got acquitted by the way. So judge everyone based on the actions of one? --- Cubs, Rockies, Grizzlies, Patriots. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/04/18 6:01:48 PM #158: |
darkprince45 posted...
superXY posted...I sort of had sympathy for the police until that recent video of that guy being told to crawl on his knees at gunpoint and then being killed like a dog by some fucking sociopathic military reject cop for no reason. That guy got acquitted by the way. Imagine if we did that about a certain race or group other than police....yeeeesh --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGrindery 02/04/18 6:02:40 PM #159: |
darkprince45 posted...
superXY posted...I sort of had sympathy for the police until that recent video of that guy being told to crawl on his knees at gunpoint and then being killed like a dog by some fucking sociopathic military reject cop for no reason. That guy got acquitted by the way. Judge everyone for not calling to have that murderous officer swiftly and harshly punished so the public doesn't lose their faith in the police. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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superXY 02/04/18 6:05:11 PM #160: |
I think you deliberately misinterpreted the point of my previous post. The problem above even the taped murder of an unarmed civilian is the fact that the system didn't find him guilty even with that tape. By the way, the jury in that case were not allowed to view that tape before making their decision. Pretty telling.
tl;dr the bigger problem than cops killing people wrongly is the failure of the system to deliver justice in those cases --- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/04/18 6:18:30 PM #161: |
superXY posted...
I think you deliberately misinterpreted the point of my previous post. The problem above even the taped murder of an unarmed civilian is the fact that the system didn't find him guilty even with that tape. By the way, the jury in that case were not allowed to view that tape before making their decision. Pretty telling. Umm the jury definitely was shown the video --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tupacrulez 02/04/18 8:29:14 PM #162: |
darkprince45 posted...
You guys have some seriously wrong mentality Lawlz. Most civvy gun enthusiasts are better shots than cops who get 50 rounds a year to train with. What was it again? Like 138 rounds or something that a California PD fired into a grey pickup they THOUGHT had a bad guy in it, and they both A) didn't kill the two people inside, and B) had the WRONG FUCKING VEHICLE. Yeah, cops. Pillars of the community. --- Suck less, Rock Moar Have I licked butt hole before? All the time. --r4xor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 02/04/18 8:30:36 PM #163: |
Ce tough guys coming out
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YellowSUV 02/04/18 8:53:54 PM #164: |
Cops have a disproportionate amount of sociopaths in their population compared to the general population.
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Patchwork 02/04/18 8:55:30 PM #166: |
YellowSUV posted...
Cops have a disproportionate amount of sociopaths in their population compared to the general population. [citation needed] --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 02/04/18 8:57:34 PM #167: |
KingCrabCake posted...
darkprince45 posted...superXY posted...I sort of had sympathy for the police until that recent video of that guy being told to crawl on his knees at gunpoint and then being killed like a dog by some fucking sociopathic military reject cop for no reason. That guy got acquitted by the way. It is a choice to be a cop. It is not a choice to be born a certain race. This kind of comparison doesn't really work. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II ... Copied to Clipboard!
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flussence 02/04/18 8:57:44 PM #168: |
darkprince45 posted...
superXY posted...I sort of had sympathy for the police until that recent video of that guy being told to crawl on his knees at gunpoint and then being killed like a dog by some fucking sociopathic military reject cop for no reason. That guy got acquitted by the way. I mean statistically most people shot dead by cops are criminals, so that guy clearly had it coming --- u ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/04/18 8:59:18 PM #169: |
LightningAce11 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...darkprince45 posted...superXY posted...I sort of had sympathy for the police until that recent video of that guy being told to crawl on his knees at gunpoint and then being killed like a dog by some fucking sociopathic military reject cop for no reason. That guy got acquitted by the way. It 100% works. Generalizing an entire group based off a few an extreme few is stupid --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KarmaMuffin 02/04/18 9:07:07 PM #170: |
darkprince45 posted...
Exactly that too. We did some active shooter training Friday. Me and partner walk into a room with a call with two dudes arguing. One calm one yelling. Yelling angry dude is approaching and I'm like okay dude chill out. My partner loses focus on calm one and he looks at the angry guy and tells him to relax. The two seconds he turned to tell the guy to relax. The calm guy pulled out a gun from his waistband and shot him with a sim round. Within another second I had already pulled out my gun with a level 3 retention holster at that and had already shot him back This is the real problem with police training. You're trained to think everyone has it out to kill you. And it's true there is danger everywhere. That's a problem because you now treat innocents like potential killers. I'm sure you also had to watch that video of the routine traffic stop where the guy just executes the cop with a rifle. That's the problem and it infects every way you view the world. You're conditioned to just accept that you'll get gunned down in a standard argument and you wonder why people get nervous and hate cops? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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flussence 02/04/18 9:09:42 PM #171: |
KingCrabCake posted...
LightningAce11 posted...KingCrabCake posted...darkprince45 posted...superXY posted...I sort of had sympathy for the police until that recent video of that guy being told to crawl on his knees at gunpoint and then being killed like a dog by some fucking sociopathic military reject cop for no reason. That guy got acquitted by the way. #NotAllWhiteSupremacists --- u ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MI4 REAL 02/04/18 9:10:03 PM #172: |
*sees topic title*
Cops be trollin' dey hatin' They be trying to catch me ridin' dirty. --- "Er...well, y'know. You can't make an omelette without um...destroying a forest.....or something" -Black Mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/04/18 9:16:34 PM #173: |
flussence posted...
KingCrabCake posted...@LightningAce11 posted...KingCrabCake posted...darkprince45 posted...superXY posted...I sort of had sympathy for the police until that recent video of that guy being told to crawl on his knees at gunpoint and then being killed like a dog by some fucking sociopathic military reject cop for no reason. That guy got acquitted by the way. ? --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 02/04/18 9:29:29 PM #174: |
A cop can stop being a cop. A person cannot stop being their race. That is the difference. Which is why being discriminated based on a choice is not equal to being discriminated due to being black or white.
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KingCrabCake 02/04/18 9:30:46 PM #175: |
@LightningAce11 posted...
A cop can stop being a cop. A person cannot stop being their race. That is the difference. Which is why being discriminated based on a choice is not equal to being discriminated due to being black or white. So you're completely fine with generalization of a group based off an extremely small portion of people? --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WizardPowers 02/04/18 9:33:32 PM #176: |
LightningAce11 posted...
A cop can stop being a cop. A person cannot stop being their race. That is the difference. Which is why being discriminated based on a choice is not equal to being discriminated due to being black or white. Cops aren't smart enough to get that That's why they became cops --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 02/04/18 9:34:24 PM #177: |
I never said that. Stop strawmanning.
I simply said it is not on the same level. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II ... Copied to Clipboard!
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flussence 02/04/18 9:38:55 PM #178: |
KingCrabCake posted...
So you're completely fine with generalization of a group based off an extremely small portion of people? Are you tacitly admitting you think the Charlottesville marchers were fine except for a few "bad apples", perhaps you even support them? --- u ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Banjo2553 02/04/18 9:43:27 PM #179: |
Comfy_Pillow posted...
"it's just a few bad apples guys" Are you aware of how many arrests or police encounters are made country-wide daily? Police shootings are absolutely rare cases. Should there be fewer? Yes, absolutely. But don't act like the majority of the police are bad. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/04/18 9:44:44 PM #180: |
@LightningAce11 posted...
I never said that. Stop strawmanning. Im asking you a question...you arent answering it So if you can... Are you okay with judging a group of people based off a small percentage of people in that group --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KrustyTheClown 02/04/18 9:54:20 PM #181: |
Banjo2553 posted...
Are you aware of how many arrests or police encounters are made country-wide daily? Police shootings are absolutely rare cases. Should there be fewer? Yes, absolutely. But don't act like the majority of the police are bad. You failed to handwave the beatings, plantings, threats, profiling, excessive force, etc. that are also rampant among police. But yeah, cops shooting people is rarer than people think so yay, nothing to worry about. flussence posted... Are you tacitly admitting you think the Charlottesville marchers were fine except for a few "bad apples", perhaps you even support them? They don't call him KingKrabKake for nothing. --- 1, 2, 3, and to the 4. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 02/04/18 9:55:22 PM #182: |
What groups do you have in mind?
Because it's different when it's a choice. I think discriminating against someone if they're white or gay is bad. Discriminating against someone who chooses to be a furry is not as much a big deal. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Banjo2553 02/04/18 9:57:11 PM #183: |
KrustyTheClown posted...
You failed to handwave the beatings, plantings, threats, profiling, excessive force, etc. that are also rampant among police. But yeah, cops shooting people is rarer than people think so yay, nothing to worry about. Were we talking about shootings or just general police misconduct? I didn't read the entire topic but it certainly seemed like we were discussing shootings. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KrustyTheClown 02/04/18 9:59:24 PM #184: |
Banjo2553 posted...
Were we talking about shootings or just general police misconduct? I didn't read the entire topic but it certainly seemed like we were discussing shootings. You said don't act like a majority of cops are bad and your reason was that they don't shoot people as often as some think. Choose your words more carefully. --- 1, 2, 3, and to the 4. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yemmy 02/04/18 10:04:27 PM #185: |
darkprince45 posted...
3. A civilian carrying some gun unless ambushing a cop is not going to win a firefight Whomever gets the jump and can place shots wins, period. When you approach a car at night you are always gonna be at a disadvantage. Also, bullet proof vest might keep you from dying but it might not keep you in a gunfight longer. I'm just saying, I hope you never have to use your gun, but having a vest and training doesn't change the fact that anyone could get the jump on you and it would be likely over very quickly for you (god forbid it happen). --- p226 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Banjo2553 02/04/18 10:04:42 PM #186: |
KrustyTheClown posted...
Banjo2553 posted...Were we talking about shootings or just general police misconduct? I didn't read the entire topic but it certainly seemed like we were discussing shootings. That's fine. I thought he was only basing "cops are bad" on police shootings, so...eh. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/04/18 10:07:46 PM #187: |
@KrustyTheClown posted...
Hi Kineth. We all know you're the only unoriginal poster to ever say this dumb shit --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/04/18 10:09:12 PM #188: |
LightningAce11 posted...
What groups do you have in mind? Answer the question....is generalizing a group of people based off an extremely small portion okay? --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metalXgear 02/04/18 10:32:29 PM #189: |
Say NOTHING
I can't stress this enough but say NOTHING if you ever get stopped by a cop. "Why you so nervous Where do you live What's your address Have you ever been to jail Where you headed From where" They try anything they can to get you to incriminate yourself, I'm surprised no one in this topic has mentioned this, REGARDLESS if the cop is good or not. Cops are trained liars and do all the tricks like first ask you where you live and stuff then they check your ID to see if it's a different location. It's like they are unaware that people move and still have a different address on the ID. And cops don't know any better on how to deal with autistic people because they have and will shoot people like that just because they know they can, like some of you have mentioned in this topic. --- "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all." - God Entity ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 02/04/18 10:35:09 PM #190: |
metalXgear posted...
It's like they are unaware that people move and still have a different address on the ID. idk about other states but here in florida you need to change your license within 2 weeks of an address change --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YellowSUV 02/04/18 10:41:04 PM #191: |
prince_leo posted...
metalXgear posted...It's like they are unaware that people move and still have a different address on the ID. In some states you can still keep your old address on your license. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KillCommunism 02/04/18 10:43:45 PM #192: |
It's sad to see so many people here so easily manipulated by the lying rat media.
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superXY 02/04/18 11:15:59 PM #193: |
KillCommunism posted...
It's sad to see so many people here so easily manipulated by the lying rat media. You're excluding yourself from that group, how come? --- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KillCommunism 02/04/18 11:46:38 PM #194: |
superXY posted...
KillCommunism posted...It's sad to see so many people here so easily manipulated by the lying rat media. I don't pay attention to the lying rat media anymore, not ever since they exposed themselves as the lying, traitorous rats that they are during the George Zimmerman case. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingArthur3D 02/04/18 11:50:16 PM #195: |
medzz posted...
Attacking a police officer and trying to take their gun is a sure fine way to be shot. You're going to get shot anyways, depending on what you look like, might as well give it a whirl.. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/04/18 11:56:39 PM #196: |
KingArthur3D posted...
medzz posted...Attacking a police officer and trying to take their gun is a sure fine way to be shot. Nope --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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0AbsoluteZero0 02/05/18 12:07:37 AM #197: |
@KingCrabCake posted...
LightningAce11 posted...What groups do you have in mind? Fail reading comprehension much? He very clearly stated that hes okay with generalizing groups that members can choose to be a part of or not, like furries and cops. Hes not okay with generalizing groups whose members did not make a voluntary choice to be included, like race, sex, and age. Stay in school. --- -The Admirable ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KillCommunism 02/05/18 12:12:51 AM #198: |
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
@KingCrabCake posted...LightningAce11 posted...What groups do you have in mind? There is no difference. Would that guy be okay with generalizing someone who chooses to wear blue shirts instead of red? Wouldn't it be just as stupid to generalize them as dumb or whatever other generalization based on shirt color, as it would be to generalize someone based on their race? Both things are ultimately pointless. The color shirt someone wears doesn't matter, and neither does his race and to generalize based on those things would be idiotic. To somehow try to say there's a significant difference between generalizing cops due to the actions of a few, and generalizing blacks due to the actions of a few is ridiculous. To say one is correct and the other wrong shows lack of common sense. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/05/18 12:13:08 AM #199: |
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
@KingCrabCake posted...LightningAce11 posted...What groups do you have in mind? It was a yes or no question so no he didnt. He kept dodging it. I understand he's scared to give a straight answer though. But as you seem to be his spokesperson...im glad he likes to discriminate against a group of people based off a small percentage of that group. Its quite a silly view he has. Take it easy --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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0AbsoluteZero0 02/05/18 12:19:52 AM #200: |
KingCrabCake posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...@KingCrabCake posted...LightningAce11 posted...What groups do you have in mind? Youre right in that I agree that making broad generalizations about large groups of people is wrong and counterproductive more often than not, I just think he made his views pretty clear with that post. --- -The Admirable ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/05/18 12:22:22 AM #201: |
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...0AbsoluteZero0 posted...@KingCrabCake posted...LightningAce11 posted...What groups do you have in mind? Nah he was very clearly dodging --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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