Current Events > Who deserves credit for the fall of ISIS?

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ItsVinceRusso
01/23/18 3:59:44 PM
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hmmmm




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ItsVinceRusso
01/23/18 7:10:47 PM
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bump
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DesuDeku
01/23/18 7:11:58 PM
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Idk, I don't really pay attention to these stuff.
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thronedfire2
01/23/18 7:13:23 PM
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The people doing the actual fighting
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The_Doge
01/23/18 7:13:47 PM
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Lord_Shadow
01/23/18 7:15:44 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF4A0xVV8_w

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LanHikari10
01/23/18 7:16:08 PM
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Bishop9800
01/23/18 7:16:56 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
The people doing the actual fighting

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Lord_Shadow
01/23/18 7:17:08 PM
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LanHikari10 posted...
GameFAQs Mods.

We warned them out of commission.

Why haven't you guys banned Kim Jong un
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DeanAuryn
01/23/18 7:17:39 PM
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God.
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Pow Pow Punishment
01/23/18 7:18:01 PM
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The Kurds (Peshmerga in Iraq and YPG/YPG in Syria) and the US for providing air strikes in support of them.

Later on there was a wider coalition against ISIS with Arabs combining with Kurdish forces to form the SDF and the Russians coming to aid Assad, but early on the Kurds alone were the single most effective fighting force because unlike the Iraqis who were completely overran they believed in their cause just as much as ISIS did in theirs. The US also deserves credit for throwing in with them and going against Turkey, although the American leadership is not a reliable ally in the long term.
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voldothegr8
01/23/18 7:23:05 PM
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Since Trump took over as commander and chief ISIS got pushed back in a hurry, probably because he let the generals general. I give him big credit.
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MabusIncarnate
01/23/18 7:26:08 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
The people doing the actual fighting

This, the soldiers that left their families and gave their lives.
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Pow Pow Punishment
01/23/18 7:33:50 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Since Trump took over as commander and chief ISIS got pushed back in a hurry, probably because he let the generals general. I give him big credit.

ISIS was losing badly under Obama already, but they dug in their capital cities and that takes a lot longer to plan for and move in on. The attack on Raqqa was being talked about for years.

Also, the US strategy under Trump has now invoked Turkey to attack the Kurds in Afrin because of the US plan to build a border army. While Turkey should be condemned I can't believe the US couldn't have expected this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/22/world/middleeast/turkey-syria-kurds-us.html

Awful leadership by the US.
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Garioshi
01/23/18 7:34:13 PM
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iraq and syria
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Broken_Zeus
01/23/18 7:34:51 PM
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Considering ISIS hasn't fallen...
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nicklebro
01/23/18 7:35:49 PM
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Putin
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ROBANN_88
01/23/18 7:37:11 PM
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it was obviously Linda
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Dampproof
01/23/18 7:37:24 PM
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Neither. Kurds had boots on the ground fighting for every inch. The US had troops as advisers and trainers (if you dont count any kinda black ops or P.M.C. activity that no doubt occurred).

Trumps massive amount of civ causalities due to indiscriminate drone strikes basically just guarantees the next ISIS will grow from that.
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Blo
01/23/18 7:37:36 PM
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Hezbollah
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Pow Pow Punishment
01/23/18 8:07:09 PM
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Broken_Zeus posted...
Considering ISIS hasn't fallen...

As a state they officially fell once they lost their capitol, Raqqa. Doesn't mean they cease to exist as a group.
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UnholyMudcrab
01/23/18 8:08:31 PM
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chill02
01/23/18 8:08:55 PM
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Satan
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Superlinkbro
01/23/18 8:09:04 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
The people doing the actual fighting

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008Zulu
01/23/18 8:18:13 PM
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Trump will take credit, because that's what narcissists do.
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KazumaKiryu
01/23/18 8:19:00 PM
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Obama's fiscal year!!!
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glitteringfairy
01/23/18 8:20:32 PM
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chill02 posted...
Satan

Was gonna say Trump and the Kurds but I can't deny this fact
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Itachi157
01/23/18 8:21:25 PM
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Pow Pow Punishment posted...
The Kurds (Peshmerga in Iraq and YPG/YPG in Syria) and the US for providing air strikes in support of them.


I've been following the situations in Iraq and Syria and most of the players in them for a few years, this is the closest thing to an answer to who deserves the credit.
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Offworlder1
01/23/18 8:27:33 PM
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A bigger blacker dick deserves the credit for the "fall" of ISIS.
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creativerealms
01/23/18 8:29:28 PM
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The Kurds.
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nicklebro
01/24/18 12:42:16 PM
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008Zulu posted...
Trump will take credit, because that's what narcissists do.

No one even pays attention to him saying that kinda thing anymore, not even his base. Not only is he completely untrustworthy, but he's 100% predictable. Like he doesn't even throw in an honest assessment every now and then to make it seem like he's not full of shit, he always takes 100% of the credit for good things and denies any wrongdoing or culpability for the bad things. Lmao every single adviser or person who worked on his campaign who has been found to have done something illegal was responsible for getting him coffee and that's it. Lmao he's had like 4 coffee boys so far and counting. Its ridiculous but his base doesn't care if he's a pathological liar.

And I'm serious when I call him that, he lies about everything, even things he doesn't need to lie about. Its his default position, to lie to make him look as good as possible. This much is undeniable.
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zH0mPfR
01/24/18 12:42:58 PM
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Any credit Obama gets is outweighed by the fact that he helped create ISIS.
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BLAKUboy
01/24/18 12:44:18 PM
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It's sad that there's votes for anything but the last option.
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nicklebro
01/24/18 12:45:06 PM
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zH0mPfR posted...
Any credit Obama gets is outweighed by the fact that he helped create ISIS.

ISIS was created long before Obama was around.
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Pow Pow Punishment
01/24/18 12:48:22 PM
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zH0mPfR posted...
Any credit Obama gets is outweighed by the fact that he helped create ISIS.

If you're referring to the US pullout of Iraq, the American people wanted that and he was representing their whims. George Bush is at bigger fault.

The Iraqis were plenty capable of shutting ISIS down on their own, so a lack of US manpower was not the issue. They chose not to out of fear and were overran by a much smaller force.
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Trelve
01/24/18 12:50:07 PM
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Vladimir Putin.
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teepan95
01/24/18 12:55:19 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
it was obviously Linda

Came to post this
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Paper_Okami
01/24/18 12:57:51 PM
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