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https://www.buzzfeed.com/sydrobinson1/fictional-characters-who-are-actually-problematic-af

Lmao. Who could have known Michael Scott was problematic

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fuckin lol

Can you just post the content so I don't give buzzfeed any page views?

Milkman5 posted...

Can you just post the content so I don't give buzzfeed any page views?

No

thanks I now have a sig
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Milkman5 posted...

Can you just post the content so I don't give buzzfeed any page views?

they talkin' that shit about harry potter
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Damn even going after Ferris Bueller
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ThePrinceFish posted...

Damn even going after Ferris Bueller

and mcfly
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ITT: dudes getting triggered over a buzzfeed article when they actively choose to read it instead of finding something better to read
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joestarrr posted...

ITT: dudes getting triggered over a buzzfeed article when they actively choose to read it instead of finding something better to read

Were laughing at it. Im not upset.

1. Ted Mosby from How I Met Your Mother

This is a good list

Why do people like this have such a hard on for the word "problematic"
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Dexter Morgan isn't on there? lol

Every male character is problematic, ESPECIALLY if he's straight and white. Thank you BuzzFeed for this exposure.
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"When the Twilight movies came out, I was in eighth grade

Well no fucking wonder Buzzfeed sucks so bad. It's all written by 18-19 year-old girls
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They had Tate Langdon on there.

Of fucking course he's "problematic," he's the villain of that season.
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CruelBuffalo posted...

Lmao. Who could have known Michael Scott was problematic

Uhh, yeah the boss who hits on his coworkers could be considered "problematic"
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"Marty McFly thinks a great way to set up his parents is to get a guy to SEXUALLY ASSAULT THIS MOTHER so his dad can act like the hero and rescue her." kayefayette

Um, his entire fucking existence was on the verge of being erased?!?!? I know it's Buzzfeed, but I'm actually astounded by how stupid this is.
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Apparently Spike, a vampire, isn't a good guy :(
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

Lmao. Who could have known Michael Scott was problematic

Uhh, yeah the boss who hits on his coworkers could be considered "problematic"

I think that's what he was implying. Michael Scott is insanely problematic; it's a vital part of him as a character.
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Gafemage posted...

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

Lmao. Who could have known Michael Scott was problematic

Uhh, yeah the boss who hits on his coworkers could be considered "problematic"

I think that's what he was implying. Michael Scott is insanely problematic; it's a vital part of him as a character.

This

Funkydog posted...

Apparently Spike, a vampire, isn't a good guy :(

Yeah that was stupid. The entire point of that was that he hated himself after what he tried to do to Buffy and that spurned him to become better and earning his soul back... reading most of these I doubt the people actually watched these shows.
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All true
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They aren't wrong about Mosby though. He was a sociopath. It's hard to watch reruns and not hate Ted.

Vyrulisse posted...

Funkydog posted...

Apparently Spike, a vampire, isn't a good guy :(

Yeah that was stupid. The entire point of that was that he hated himself after what he tried to do to Buffy and that spurned him to become better and earning his soul back... reading most of these I doubt the people actually watched these shows.

It really does seem people either miss the point of the character entirely, or pick on entirely the wrong flaws.

So yeah, likely they didn't watch it or are simply of the mind of looking to be offended.
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Gafemage posted...

"Marty McFly thinks a great way to set up his parents is to get a guy to SEXUALLY ASSAULT THIS MOTHER so his dad can act like the hero and rescue her." kayefayette

Um, his entire fucking existence was on the verge of being erased?!?!? I know it's Buzzfeed, but I'm actually astounded by how stupid this is.

Using Biff was not part of Marty's plan.

Did this person watch the movie
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Spike from Buffy

He is a FUCKING VAMPIRE

HE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD

This is a user generated list sort of, right? Really tells you the intelligence of buzzfeed lovers I guess.
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Evolician posted...

Gafemage posted...

"Marty McFly thinks a great way to set up his parents is to get a guy to SEXUALLY ASSAULT THIS MOTHER so his dad can act like the hero and rescue her." kayefayette

Um, his entire fucking existence was on the verge of being erased?!?!? I know it's Buzzfeed, but I'm actually astounded by how stupid this is.

Using Biff was not part of Marty's plan.

Did this person watch the movie

Oh yeah, this too; I don't remember everything about Back to the Future, but I definitely do not recall Marty deliberately setting his mom up to get hit on by Biff.
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Doe posted...

Spike from Buffy

He is a FUCKING VAMPIRE

HE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD

This is a user generated list sort of, right? Really tells you the intelligence of buzzfeed lovers I guess.

Let's be fair, here. The fanbase loves Spike. Like literally loves him. Not even in a 'love to hate' sort of way. They think he is a hero and cheered when he came back as a 'good guy'. Not only that, but his whole story arc in the later seasons and Angel is how he is trying to be a good guy. You can't really argue, "he's a bad guy, he's not supposed to be good" when he joins the heroes in like season 4 and spends the rest of the series trying to improve himself and kill bad guys.

Looking through the list, the Xander Harris & Ross Gellar ones are actually pretty accurate. All the main characters of Friends are pretty bad people, tbh.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Doe posted...

Spike from Buffy

He is a FUCKING VAMPIRE

HE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD

This is a user generated list sort of, right? Really tells you the intelligence of buzzfeed lovers I guess.

Let's be fair, here. The fanbase loves Spike. Like literally loves him. Not even in a 'love to hate' sort of way. They think he is a hero and cheered when he came back as a 'good guy'. Not only that, but his whole story arc in the later seasons and Angel is how he is trying to be a good guy. You can't really argue, "he's a bad guy, he's not supposed to be good" when he joins the heroes in like season 4 and spends the rest of the series trying to improve himself and kill bad guys.

At the time of the incident he was a really bad guy pretending to be a good guy and trying to force something that wasn't really there. Thus his entire redemption arc and the huge moment that really sparked it.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Let's be fair, here. The fanbase loves Spike. Like literally loves him. Not even in a 'love to hate' sort of way. They think he is a hero and cheered when he came back as a 'good guy'. Not only that, but his whole story arc in the later seasons and Angel is how he is trying to be a good guy. You can't really argue, "he's a bad guy, he's not supposed to be good" when he joins the heroes in like season 4 and spends the rest of the series trying to improve himself and kill bad guys.

I am aware and I don't think there's a problem with the arc. They knew what he had done and decided to give him another chance. There's no issues there
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Gafemage posted...

Looking through the list, the Xander Harris & Ross Gellar ones are actually pretty accurate. All the main characters of Friends are pretty bad people, tbh.

I mean, with Ross and Rachel they were both awful and abusive people to another. The rest of the cast were generally pretty bleh save from Phoebe from what I remember (besides being weird)
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Someone please post the article. Don't want to give buzzfeed clicks.
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Vyrulisse posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Doe posted...

Spike from Buffy

He is a FUCKING VAMPIRE

HE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD

This is a user generated list sort of, right? Really tells you the intelligence of buzzfeed lovers I guess.

Let's be fair, here. The fanbase loves Spike. Like literally loves him. Not even in a 'love to hate' sort of way. They think he is a hero and cheered when he came back as a 'good guy'. Not only that, but his whole story arc in the later seasons and Angel is how he is trying to be a good guy. You can't really argue, "he's a bad guy, he's not supposed to be good" when he joins the heroes in like season 4 and spends the rest of the series trying to improve himself and kill bad guys.

At the time of the incident he was a really bad guy pretending to be a good guy and trying to force something that wasn't really there. Thus his entire redemption arc and the huge moment that really sparked it.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's a great character and a good part of the later seasons of Buffy and Angel, I'm just saying that arguing that "He's supposed to be a bad guy" is sort of faulty since when he tried to rape Buffy, he was already on the good guy's side. I'm just pointing out that they aren't wrong that people give him a troubled bad-boy reputation when in reality he's a remorseless killing machine for most of the series.

Dash_Harber posted...

Let's be fair, here. The fanbase loves Spike. Like literally loves him. Not even in a 'love to hate' sort of way. They think he is a hero and cheered when he came back as a 'good guy'. Not only that, but his whole story arc in the later seasons and Angel is how he is trying to be a good guy. You can't really argue, "he's a bad guy, he's not supposed to be good" when he joins the heroes in like season 4 and spends the rest of the series trying to improve himself and kill bad guys.

That's not right though.

They had him become a "good guy" by virtue of a plot device that caused him intense pain whenever he tried to hurt a human. He eventually learned that he can attack other demons without pain and, due to the nature of the character, started to help kill demons because he enjoys fighting. He wasn't trying to improve himself. He was still a bad person, he was simply incapable of doing anything bad. He does do some good things, but his motivation is generally selfish (ie, he doesn't tell Glory about Dawn because he likes Dawn).

He fell in love with Buffy through events that I forget and she eventually discovers this. Later on, Buffy went through some shit and starts to use Spike for nasty, vicious, unhealthy comfort sex. When he attempts to rape her, it's genuinely not all that different from other sex they've had and she initiated. The scene is even framed in such a way that you go back and forth from sympathizing (for lack of a better word) between him and Buffy. When she finally gets him to back off and he realizes what he was doing, that's when he goes and gets his soul back. And when he gets his soul back, that's when he starts genuinely trying to atone because a vampire's soul is Jiminy Cricket in BTVS.
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CruelBuffalo posted...

Gafemage posted...

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

Lmao. Who could have known Michael Scott was problematic

Uhh, yeah the boss who hits on his coworkers could be considered "problematic"

I think that's what he was implying. Michael Scott is insanely problematic; it's a vital part of him as a character.

This

Fuck, I'm usually pretty good at picking up on sarcasm on the internet. My bad
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This list just reminded me that I watched Pretty Little Liars.

Holy fuck, what an awful show. Each convoluted twist was followed by an even more shitty convoluted twist, and I totally fucking jokingly correctly guessed the ending, because that's how fucking bad it was.
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eggcorn posted...

thanks I now have a sig

That's actually a darn good sig.
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Harry Potter from Harry Potter

what is this a joke?
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JlM posted...

This list just reminded me that I watched Pretty Little Liars.

Holy fuck, what an awful show. Each convoluted twist was followed by an even more shitty convoluted twist, and I totally fucking jokingly correctly guessed the ending, because that's how fucking bad it was.

I know a couple girls that loved that show. I fucking hated listening to them talk about it

Sparksfanboy posted...

Jim from Halpert

lol
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Axiom posted...

JlM posted...

This list just reminded me that I watched Pretty Little Liars.

Holy fuck, what an awful show. Each convoluted twist was followed by an even more shitty convoluted twist, and I totally fucking jokingly correctly guessed the ending, because that's how fucking bad it was.

I know a couple girls that loved that show. I fucking hated listening to them talk about it

The first season or two were okay. Then they discovered who "A" was. It should have ended.
But it didn't, so they kept adding new antagonists that didn't make any sense and it just got more and more fucking silly.

Crazy Mona could have been a great character too, if someone with slightly competent writing skills were involved with the show.

I will never understand why I powered through the whole series. Total waste of my life.
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