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KingCrabCake
01/21/18 10:13:08 AM
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Patchwork
01/21/18 10:13:43 AM
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Ridiculous.
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ItsYourFault
01/21/18 10:15:32 AM
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Stupid. I hate trump and his racist policies but this just punishes those who have to comply with his fat racist shit.

NotTheirFault
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FrisbeeDude
01/21/18 10:16:28 AM
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Good
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josifrees
01/21/18 10:16:30 AM
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States rights
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Antifar
01/21/18 10:18:11 AM
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This basically prevents employers from retaliating against their undocumented employees when they get hurt on the job and seek worker's comp. It's good.

http://www.wbur.org/news/2017/05/17/ice-arrest-workers-comp

The end result here is making undocumented workers less attractive to employers by making it harder for them to just dispose of the workers if and when they stop being so exploitable.
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KingCrabCake
01/21/18 10:19:57 AM
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ItsYourFault posted...
Stupid. I hate trump and his racist policies but this just punishes those who have to comply with his fat racist shit.

NotTheirFault


He has zero racist policies. You already admitted this yesterday
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Annihilated
01/21/18 10:22:06 AM
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So California will break federal law by prosecuting companies that broke no laws. Joke state, what else is new?
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Antifar
01/21/18 10:22:47 AM
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Annihilated posted...
companies that broke no laws

They broke California law
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Doom_Art
01/21/18 10:23:10 AM
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Antifar posted...
This basically prevents employers from retaliating against their undocumented employees when they get hurt on the job and seek worker's comp. It's good.

http://www.wbur.org/news/2017/05/17/ice-arrest-workers-comp

The end result here is making undocumented workers less attractive to employers by making it harder for them to just dispose of the workers if and when they stop being so exploitable.

B-b-b-b-but commiefornia!!!!
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The Admiral
01/21/18 10:23:10 AM
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If only CA politicians knew how the law actually worked.
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50Blessings
01/21/18 10:24:04 AM
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Oh, so states rights is okay for this but not for when it comes to gun ownership?
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Annihilated
01/21/18 10:24:15 AM
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Sparksfanboy posted...
#statesrightsonlywhenisayso


#immigrationisnotastatesright
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ssj3vegeta2
01/21/18 10:25:07 AM
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ItsYourFault
01/21/18 10:25:12 AM
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KingCrabCake posted...
ItsYourFault posted...
Stupid. I hate trump and his racist policies but this just punishes those who have to comply with his fat racist shit.

NotTheirFault


He has zero racist policies. You already admitted this yesterday

Stop
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Duncanwii
01/21/18 10:25:38 AM
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50Blessings posted...
Oh, so states rights is okay for this but not for when it comes to gun ownership?

One is actively helping and one is actively hurting. It's not that hard to figure out.
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KarmaMuffin
01/21/18 10:26:26 AM
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Oh cool, another thing California is doing that people will misrepresent like the HIV law because they can't think on a deeper level.
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50Blessings
01/21/18 10:27:17 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
One is actively helping and one is actively hurting. It's not that hard to figure out.


I agree, that's why we shouldn't be using states rights as a defense to hurt these businesses.
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twitterfriends
01/21/18 10:27:35 AM
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Good, States Rights and California is a Sanctuary State.
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Antifar
01/21/18 10:29:30 AM
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Here's another outlet that goes into more detail about the legislation at hand
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article195434409.html
Becerra said the state Department of Justice and the state Labor Commissioners Office plan to issue formal guidance to all California employers, public and private, notifying them of their responsibilities under a new state law called the Immigrant Worker Protection Act, signed by Gov. Jerry Brown last year that took effect Jan. 1. It seeks to prevent all workers, regardless of immigration status, from being detained at workplaces.

Authored by San Francisco Democratic Assemblyman David Chiu, the bill:

Requires employers to ask immigration agents for a warrant before granting access to a worksite.

Prevents employers from voluntarily sharing confidential employee information without a subpoena.

Requires employers to notify their workers before a federal audit of employee records.

Gives the attorney general and labor commissioner exclusive authority to enforce new provisions of state labor laws.

Prohibits employers from re-verifying information on employment verification forms, unless compelled to by federal law.

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ThyCorndog
01/21/18 10:31:23 AM
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nice job cali. fuck ice
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Intro2Logic
01/21/18 10:31:29 AM
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Harsh immigration policies incentivize the use of illegal immigrants by giving employers additional leverage over them.
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KingCrabCake
01/21/18 10:31:57 AM
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So e everyone saying state rights...does this apply to gay marriage?
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Doom_Art
01/21/18 10:32:39 AM
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@KingCrabCake have you read anything Antifar has posted ITT?
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KingCrabCake
01/21/18 10:33:30 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
KingCrabCake have you read anything Antifar has posted ITT?


Yup...
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Doom_Art
01/21/18 10:34:48 AM
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Do you have any response to it?
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KingCrabCake
01/21/18 10:36:23 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Do you have any response to it?

Nope. I think Commiefornia is wrong here. If you know someone is breaking the law you should be allowed to tell the proper authorities
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Antifar
01/21/18 10:37:30 AM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Nope. I think Commiefornia is wrong here. If you know someone is breaking the law you should be allowed to tell the proper authorities

If you know someone is breaking the law, why are you employing them?
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gmanthebest
01/21/18 10:37:35 AM
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So prosecuting people for following the law?
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Doom_Art
01/21/18 10:37:47 AM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Nope

Then why should any of us bother with this topic?
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Antifar
01/21/18 10:38:20 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
So prosecuting people for following the law?

Prosecuting people for violating the law, which in California...

Requires employers to ask immigration agents for a warrant before granting access to a worksite.

Prevents employers from voluntarily sharing confidential employee information without a subpoena.

Requires employers to notify their workers before a federal audit of employee records.

Gives the attorney general and labor commissioner exclusive authority to enforce new provisions of state labor laws.

Prohibits employers from re-verifying information on employment verification forms, unless compelled to by federal law.

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KingCrabCake
01/21/18 10:38:58 AM
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Antifar posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Nope. I think Commiefornia is wrong here. If you know someone is breaking the law you should be allowed to tell the proper authorities

If you know someone is breaking the law, why are you employing them?


No idea cant speak for them
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KingCrabCake
01/21/18 10:39:38 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Nope

Then why should any of us bother with this topic?


Never said you had to. All i did was post an article
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voldothegr8
01/21/18 10:51:31 AM
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Seems pretty easy to circumvent, I have a feeling ICE is about to get lots more "anonymous" tips.
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DirkDiggles
01/21/18 10:57:24 AM
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So...Reporting a company that is hiring illegals can get you arrested...

Got to protect their illegals somehow.
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JE19426
01/21/18 11:00:38 AM
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DirkDiggles posted...
So...Reporting a company that is hiring illegals can get you arrested...


False.
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voldothegr8
01/21/18 11:01:39 AM
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DirkDiggles posted...
So...Reporting a company that is hiring illegals can get you arrested...

Got to protect their illegals somehow.

It's only illegal for the employer to report, thus why this seems pretty easy to get around.
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gmanthebest
01/21/18 1:09:20 PM
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Antifar posted...
gmanthebest posted...
So prosecuting people for following the law?

Prosecuting people for violating the law, which in California...

Requires employers to ask immigration agents for a warrant before granting access to a worksite.

Prevents employers from voluntarily sharing confidential employee information without a subpoena.

Requires employers to notify their workers before a federal audit of employee records.

Gives the attorney general and labor commissioner exclusive authority to enforce new provisions of state labor laws.

Prohibits employers from re-verifying information on employment verification forms, unless compelled to by federal law.

So they're allowed to voluntarily give ICE information then?
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JE19426
01/21/18 1:12:40 PM
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gmanthebest posted...
So they're allowed to voluntarily give ICE information then?


That depends on what information they voluntarily give and under what circumstances.
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southcoast09
01/21/18 1:14:31 PM
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I've never actually called ICE on somebody, but I really want to. My friend did it twice and he said they were very appreciative. The businesses who hired them were given unthinkable fines and I believe my friend was offered $500.
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gmanthebest
01/21/18 1:19:17 PM
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JE19426 posted...
gmanthebest posted...
So they're allowed to voluntarily give ICE information then?


That depends on what information they voluntarily give and under what circumstances.

Like if they knew someone was illegal and called up ICE. Seems like that isn't causing much trouble.
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Questionmarktarius
01/21/18 1:26:53 PM
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Antifar posted...
The end result here is making undocumented workers less attractive to employers by making it harder for them to just dispose of the workers if and when they stop being so exploitable.

Even if that's not the intent, it's going to be the effect.
Given that this is California, it's hard to tell.
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REMercsChamp
01/21/18 1:29:03 PM
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California is a fucking joke
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KingCrabCake
01/21/18 1:29:57 PM
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byron posted...
"wtf we hate state's rights now"

Would you feel that way about gay marriage

And also immigration isnt a state right i dont think.
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Zikten
01/21/18 1:32:50 PM
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wtf this is something that could spark a civil war. that is bullshit. California is literally operating under a different set of laws than the nation at wide. like they think they are a separate country
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RebelElite791
01/21/18 1:33:04 PM
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Curious to hear what communist policies CA has
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