Current Events > With all these supposed secondary uses for hemp/marijuana, why doesn't Colorado

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Have a booming paper industry?
Or a thriving rope manufacturing hub?
Or something something textiles?

Was it just pure bullshit for the sake of legalization?
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because you aren't aloud
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Allowed?
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Those are all legitimate uses, but not quite as profitable as smoking
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pure bullshit, yeah. Maybe a bit of economics as well.

Selective breeding of pot over time has yielded strains that are great for getting high and/or high concentrations of whatever chemical is good for anti-nausea/anti-pain/general medicinal use.

There's probably strains that are also good for fiber/paper/etc but those involve larger scale planting to yield worthwhile volume akin to cotton fields while recreation/medicinal use can be done in some dude's garage.
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Just like corn or anything else there's consumer crops and "other purpose" crops. They'e grown and harvested completely different. There's probably way more money on the consumer side in this case.
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Because the weed is balling so out of control, everyone is just going "huh? Huh?"
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Too much red tape. What they do with products and byproducts is highly monitored by the government. At my local dispensary, they have a laminated sign that says "no customers past this point." They had to get a government official to come to the store to listen their request to move the sign a few feet on the wall.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Have a booming paper industry?
Or a thriving rope manufacturing hub?
Or something something textiles?

Was it just pure bullshit for the sake of legalization?

Yes, it was.

Don't get me wrong - hemp is great for all the above, but the people pushing for it didn't care about that, or medicinal benefits. They just wanted to legally get high off it.
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If I smoked a marijuana cigarette once a week would I stop dreaming so much at night?
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dolomedes posted...

ehhwhatever posted...

If I smoked a marijuana cigarette once a week would I stop dreaming so much at night?

idk about once a week, but when i smoke regularly (a little bit every night) i don't dream. a few days after i quit, dreams return.

ok thanks
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darkjedilink posted...

Yes, it was.

I heard a story on NPR about the growing housing crisis in Colorado, wasn't Hempcrete suppose to usher in a new era of affordable/sustainable housing projects? LOL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hempcrete

I dunno, it's just fucking funny.
When Ohio failed to pass rec/med because of the monopoly in the bill, they clearly didn't give 2 shits about getting cancer patients access to medication. That level of selfishness and disingenuous action is so fucking pervasive in the pot community, it makes it tough to give a fuck.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

When Ohio failed to pass rec/med because of the monopoly in the bill, they clearly didn't give 2 shits about getting cancer patients access to medication. That level of selfishness and disingenuous action is so fucking pervasive in the pot community, it makes it tough to give a fuck.

I disagree. I voted against medicinal marijuana in my state for this reason. Of course, medicinal marijuana doesn't really do anything for the people I care about (those involved in the criminal justice system)

edit: it passed anyway though btw
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Hemp has never been illegal lol wtf is this topic. Hemp that is grown for industrial use has such low THC that it can't be turned to hashish or marijuana. Pot plants good for smoking are shitty when it comes to industrial use.
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To the extent that it passed in Ohio, it's so strictly controlled and limited to what you can buy it's essential still illegal. You practically have to be terminal. (Bit of an exaggeration but it really is the most profane diseases.)

I voted against medicinal marijuana in my state for this reason.

Imagine voting against an AIDS drug because some asshole owns the patents. It makes you a vindictive scumbag and you're essentially telling the ill to go fuck themselves, there's no other way to characterize it.
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Hemp has never been illegal lol wtf is this topic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp#United_States

Hemp was made illegal to grow without a permit in the U.S. under the Controlled Substances Act passed in 1970 because of its relation to marijuana . . .

edit: Note, I'm not saying that hemp products are controlled substances.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Hemp has never been illegal lol wtf is this topic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp#United_States

Hemp was made illegal to grow without a permit in the U.S. under the Controlled Substances Act passed in 1970 because of its relation to marijuana . . .

So you need a permit to grow it, doesn't mean it is illegal
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Imagine voting against an AIDS drug because some asshole owns the patents. It makes you a vindictive scumbag and you're essentially telling the ill to go fuck themselves, there's no other way to characterize it.

I guess you can characterize it that way if you'd like, but since marijuana isn't covered by insurance the cost factor is a really big one for the people you're talking about, and letting the alcohol board control who gets permits and where is bad for patients.

It may be marginally better than the prior system, but only just, and much harder to change through legislation than the original ballot initiative process.

Is this normally how you frame discussions of policy btw? Were you one of those people saying repealing the ACA would literally kill people?
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Pro-tip, they didn't give those permits out.
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Balrog0 posted...

is bad for patients.

Worse than "suck it up"?

It may be marginally better than the prior system

Pick a fucking stance, Jesus.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Worse than "suck it up"?

It could be, yeah!

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Pick a fucking stance, Jesus.

I know you're not normally this stupid and obtusely black and white in most policy discussions, so its VERY odd to see you behaving so stupidly my man

edit: btw I voted for a separate ballot measure which established a cannabis board and had a grow at home provision for rural low-income folks, so I think I did pick a stance
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I'm not being obtuse, I just have no patience for people that would rather continue to imprison people and deny medical treatment, simply to prevent a few companies from making the money on it.

The only reason it would be difficult to change the proposed law post passage would be because people would become complacent to pushing for progress on it. Not because it would technically be difficult to modify the text of it.

Further more, the bill allowed for growing your personal stash.

It really seems like cutting your nose to spite your face. Legalization proponents that voted against it, I just can't take any of their arguments for weed legalization seriously. There's a profound inconsistency.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Pro-tip, they didn't give those permits out.

Yes they did
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There are companies pursuing those markets, it's just a lot harder to replace these already established markets.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

I just have no patience for people that would rather continue to imprison people and deny medical treatment, simply to prevent a few companies from making the money on it.

well, medical marijuana doesn't help with incarceration rates for recreational use, so 1/2

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

The only reason it would be difficult to change the proposed law post passage would be because people would become complacent to pushing for progress on it. Not because it would technically be difficult to modify the text of it.

It's because the structural way that laws are changed. To modify the law requires legislative action or a signature drive to relitigate the issue through a direct ballot intiative to veto the previous amendment.

Only the people who fund those ballot initiatives for medical marijuana don't have any reason to relitigate it in Arkansas now that there's a monopoly, it is much more lucrative to change the law else where to open up an entirely new market. Plus, it would require two separate ballot measures passing at the same time to work. It's a much heavier lift both technically and due to the public will, yeah.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Further more, the bill allowed for growing your personal stash.

whoa what a hypocrite who cares it helps patients and stops incarceration remember? I thought complaining about these kind of minutiae was BAD?

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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

It really seems like cutting your nose to spite your face. Legalization proponents that voted against it, I just can't take any of their arguments for weed legalization seriously. There's a profound inconsistency.

well if you still feel that way after learning about the process that is now required we simply disagree
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How much land/crop is required to grow hemp-based textiles vs how much is required to grow the smoking kind, medicinal or recreational?
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