Current Events > I wonder how many home-schooled children are actually living in hell.

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As opposed to being brainwashed by some jaded, atheist, commie fuck in public school?
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zH0mPfR posted...

As opposed to being brainwashed by some jaded, atheist, commie fuck in public school?

the edge

it hurts
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Drpooplol posted...

Every single person who was home-schooled I've ever met in my life was a fucking weirdo.

This lol

I'm sure plenty are perfectly fine though
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Homeschooling was the bomb

C_Pain posted...

I feel like most home school kids are normal actually, and this image of them being weird is statist propagnda to promote the state public school system (which sucks).

I'm sure some of them are normal just not the one's I've met
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High school is really important, because everything is going to be basically high school for the rest of your life. You have to learn how to navigate those kinds of environments.
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zH0mPfR posted...

As opposed to being brainwashed by some jaded, atheist, commie fuck in public school?

Couldn't be more of an American stereotype if you tried.
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BlingBling22947 posted...

High school is really important, because everything is going to be basically high school for the rest of your life. You have to learn how to navigate those kinds of environments.

This is true. Every workplace I've ever been apart of had been a popularity contest.
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Millennials posted...

My freshmen year of high school, the school district changed the rules and only let people be home or private schooled through 8th grade, so there were a shit load of socially awkward, inept, and naive kids in my class.

One of the funniest/saddest things I've ever seen in my life was when our gruff, old, ex-military P.E. coach made a kid cry because he yelled at him for not running, then the kid says he was home schooled and his parents never made him run so he didn't know how. Coach didn't believe him and sent him to the office, then one of the A.P.s came back with the kid and he explained the situation to him. Coach spent the class teaching him how to run while we did some fitness test crap. We're doing our pushups and sit-ups and there's this awkward kid running all bowlegged, plodding feet around the perimeter of the gym.

There was also a girl from a Catholic school who I'm pretty sure found out what sex was from some cholo in math class. That was kind of hilarious.

But yeah, seeing all those poor, stunted kids made me think neither of those options are any better an alternative to public schools.

He couldn't... run?

That's like locked in the basement homeschooling.

And yeah, let's get rid of most home schooling. Every kid I've met that's been HS'd is either an odd duck, or a reeeeally odd duck.

To be fair a lot of kids are homeschooled because they have issues and likely would be similarly odd regardless.
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There should be standards for homeschooling

Like you can only homeschool your children if you're a qualified teacher or something
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Theyre not all bad. A lady I work with homeschools her kids and they still have plenty of interaction with other children. She's part of some group where homeschooled kids get together for field trips. They go to the museum and shit every few weeks.
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I was homeschooled K-12. I'd say my parents did it about as right as you can, with a structured curriculum, lots of going out with homeschool groups, and I also played multiple sports with the town. Ended up getting a scholarship for college too.

With all that being said, I don't think I'll homeschool my kids. Even with the interaction, I still felt out of place when I started college. I'd say it took a good 3 semesters before I truly fit in. Surprisingly, I was also pretty popular with the ladies, because even with the awkwardness, I was a really good dude and not the usual frat boy asshole they were used to.

So yea overall good and bad. I also live in an area with really good schools, so I don't feel as obligated to do it for my kids.
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C_Pain posted...

I feel like most home school kids are normal actually, and this image of them being weird is statist propagnda to promote the state public school system (which sucks).

is this your gimmick?
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Conflict posted...

zH0mPfR posted...

As opposed to being brainwashed by some jaded, atheist, commie fuck in public school?

I can tell you definitely fit the socially deficient stereotype about homeschooled people

Except I wasn't home schooled. Herp McDerp.
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People who home school their kids sorely miss the point of school. The "Three Rs" are important but the social development is even more so.
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We require teachers to go to college and get degrees along with teaching certifications in order to be qualified to teach. In addition, usually from 6th grade onwards you have multiple teachers teaching you, each under their specialization, because you get better quality instruction when the person teaching you math isn't also teaching you English, History, etc.

And then you have stay at home parents with no degree teaching their kids all they "need to know".
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Kamala_Harris posted...

I was home schooled from 5th-8th grade and I am thankful as fuck for it.

really? why?
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Millennials posted...

One of the funniest/saddest things I've ever seen in my life was when our gruff, old, ex-military P.E. coach made a kid cry because he yelled at him for not running, then the kid says he was home schooled and his parents never made him run so he didn't know how. Coach didn't believe him and sent him to the office, then one of the A.P.s came back with the kid and he explained the situation to him. Coach spent the class teaching him how to run while we did some fitness test crap. We're doing our pushups and sit-ups and there's this awkward kid running all bowlegged, plodding feet around the perimeter of the gym.

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Anteaterking posted...

We require teachers to go to college and get degrees along with teaching certifications in order to be qualified to teach. In addition, usually from 6th grade onwards you have multiple teachers teaching you, each under their specialization, because you get better quality instruction when the person teaching you math isn't also teaching you English, History, etc.

And then you have stay at home parents with no degree teaching their kids all they "need to know".

In a lot of places teachers even need a master's degree on top of their undergraduate degree.
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I read the topic title and thought TC was taking a theological stance. Like, if you were home schooled you can't get into heaven
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i went to private and public schools as a kid. however i grew up in a really religious family and did a lot of church-related activities as a kid, so i inevitably crossed paths with a lot of homeschooled kids.

they were almost all universally weird. like they'd be nice, able to communicate and interact with people, etc but they always felt kind of off. in social situations they always just felt like they were a beat behind. it's kind of hard to describe but the kids always just stood out in this way where it seemed like they were trying to apply themselves to the social situation through effort rather than genuine ease with how it all works.

personally i think that people learn social skills through unstructured, unsupervised social activities. that's where you have to learn unspoken social rules, learn how to fit in, and how to balance being your own person and having a group identity.

it's cool that HS student parents will sign their kids up to play sports or join clubs with other HS kids, but i think this hardly prepares you for socialization in a real sense. it's one thing to play baseball with a kid and another to find yourself on the first day of college meeting your new roommate for the first time and realizing you have absolutely no way of relating to this person
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r4X0r posted...

In a lot of places teachers even need a master's degree on top of their undergraduate degree.

Which states require that? I know that a lot of teachers have school district based programs where they earn their masters while they teach, but I hadn't heard of any requirements to start with one.
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fenderbender321 posted...

r4X0r posted...

Anteaterking posted...

We require teachers to go to college and get degrees along with teaching certifications in order to be qualified to teach. In addition, usually from 6th grade onwards you have multiple teachers teaching you, each under their specialization, because you get better quality instruction when the person teaching you math isn't also teaching you English, History, etc.

And then you have stay at home parents with no degree teaching their kids all they "need to know".

In a lot of places teachers even need a master's degree on top of their undergraduate degree.

Yup, and that's total bullshit. You shouldn't even need a teaching degree to teach. You should just be able to...you know...teach!

Okay, and besides having a degree, what other ways can you quantify having the ability to teach? I get that you don't have to have a degree to be able to do something but there are acceptable and unacceptable ways of teaching and besides literally showing people your ability (which isn't something you can do with everyone), there's no way to prove that you know how to teach.
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fenderbender321 posted...

Vulgorn posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

r4X0r posted...

Anteaterking posted...

We require teachers to go to college and get degrees along with teaching certifications in order to be qualified to teach. In addition, usually from 6th grade onwards you have multiple teachers teaching you, each under their specialization, because you get better quality instruction when the person teaching you math isn't also teaching you English, History, etc.

And then you have stay at home parents with no degree teaching their kids all they "need to know".

In a lot of places teachers even need a master's degree on top of their undergraduate degree.

Yup, and that's total bullshit. You shouldn't even need a teaching degree to teach. You should just be able to...you know...teach!

Okay, and besides having a degree, what other ways can you quantify having the ability to teach? I get that you don't have to have a degree to be able to do something but there are acceptable and unacceptable ways of teaching and besides literally showing people your ability (which isn't something you can do with everyone), there's no way to prove that you know how to teach.

Let them teach under the guidance of a trainer.

That just creates an unnecessary middleman. Why not just have trained teachers teach kids?
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Everybody I've know that was homeschooled has fallen into one of two categories

#1: brainwashed religious nutjob category
#2: better off than people that went to public school category

never seen an in-between
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What are you even on about? Were we not talking about K-12? Did I miss something?
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Romulox28 posted...

i went to private and public schools as a kid. however i grew up in a really religious family and did a lot of church-related activities as a kid, so i inevitably crossed paths with a lot of homeschooled kids.

they were almost all universally weird. like they'd be nice, able to communicate and interact with people, etc but they always felt kind of off. in social situations they always just felt like they were a beat behind. it's kind of hard to describe but the kids always just stood out in this way where it seemed like they were trying to apply themselves to the social situation through effort rather than genuine ease with how it all works.

personally i think that people learn social skills through unstructured, unsupervised social activities. that's where you have to learn unspoken social rules, learn how to fit in, and how to balance being your own person and having a group identity.

it's cool that HS student parents will sign their kids up to play sports or join clubs with other HS kids, but i think this hardly prepares you for socialization in a real sense. it's one thing to play baseball with a kid and another to find yourself on the first day of college meeting your new roommate for the first time and realizing you have absolutely no way of relating to this person

But do homeschooled kids have the same problem interacting with adults?

We stick kids with other kids their own age, and that's most of who they are exposed to. A homeschooled kid won't have that same ease with other kids their own age, but what about with adults?

I wonder about this because I feel like a lot of people learn terrible social habits in K-12 and then they have to unlearn them from 18-25 or so.
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Doe posted...

Normally home schooling means the kids are in pretty good care because if the parents didn't like them they'd want to have them at school because it gets them out of the house.

Well, that's an easy and logical thing to say, but some parents get off on torturing their children.
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