Current Events > Do you believe there are countries that are '**** holes'?

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Comfy_Pillow
01/12/18 6:12:52 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Comfy_Pillow posted...
and this exaggerated reaction to that comment is why Trump won in the first place. What he said is absolutely 100% true and something most people (normal people) would agree with.

People are upset because he was asking WHY people from those countries come here...why the fuck should they have to justify wanting to come here for a better life? what part of his statement is 100% true? you're taking all the context out of his quote just so you can be "technically" right...spare me all the "this is why Trump won" nonsense...people who think like you do and ignore all context is why Trump won. They're not smart enough to think deeper past the word "shithole", say "hey yea it is a shithole he's right!" and support him.


yeah I'm sure Hillary supporters are real enlightened compared to Trump supporters lmao
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TheVipaGTS
01/12/18 6:13:25 PM
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not_shawn_z posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Youre right man. Jokes about the eagles are the same as a world leaders comments when discussing policy.


Not that argument at all. "Phily is a shithole" is a comment that isn't uncommon, and is unrelated to sports. No one says "you're a racist" in response to that

when people say "Philly is a shit hole" are they in the middle of a serious discussion about whether or not it should be part of the United States anymore? Trump called those places shitholes while asking why we let people from those places come here...Ignoring the fact that plenty of people from places like that come here and contribute a lot to this country. THAT is what the issue is. not just the word "shithole"....its incredible how you guys are trying to simplify it into just that...
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knuxnole
01/12/18 6:14:19 PM
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Also, if anyone defends those countries, they shouldn't say illegals can't leave because their country is too poor to go back to
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Warrior_Man
01/12/18 6:17:09 PM
#54:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Comfy_Pillow posted...
and this exaggerated reaction to that comment is why Trump won in the first place. What he said is absolutely 100% true and something most people (normal people) would agree with.

People are upset because he was asking WHY people from those countries come here...why the fuck should they have to justify wanting to come here for a better life? what part of his statement is 100% true? you're taking all the context out of his quote just so you can be "technically" right...spare me all the "this is why Trump won" nonsense...people who think like you do and ignore all context is why Trump won. They're not smart enough to think deeper past the word "shithole", say "hey yea it is a shithole he's right!" and support him.

No, he was asking why we have diversity visa programs that offer visas to countries that shockingly don't produce the necessary amount of skilled workers to otherwise be represented in significant numbers for our immigration system. Merit based immigration is not racist simply because reality dictates that more developed countries are going to produce a higher quantity of skilled migrants.
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Comfy_Pillow
01/12/18 6:18:05 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
when people say "Philly is a s*** hole" are they in the middle of a serious discussion about whether or not it should be part of the United States anymore? Trump called those places s***holes while asking why we let people from those places come here...Ignoring the fact that plenty of people from places like that come here and contribute a lot to this country. THAT is what the issue is. not just the word "s***hole"....its incredible how you guys are trying to simplify it into just that...


still not a big deal to normal Americans.

you can pretend to be more enlightened and cry about it on twitter if you want though.
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The Admiral
01/12/18 6:19:13 PM
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Liberals seemed to agree that those countries were shitholes when making the argument for why we should accept some of the million of refugees who are fleeing them. I really don't get the disagreement here.
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NadYobWoc
01/12/18 6:22:20 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Liberals seemed to agree that those countries were shitholes when making the argument for why we should accept some of the million refugees who are fleeing them. I really don't get the disagreement here.

It's mostly an issue of our president saying it. He's a diplomat, he should speak diplomatically. Personally, I found the shithole comment to be the more tame one. It was more fucked up that he said Nigerian immigrants would never go back to their huts.
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Tmaster148
01/12/18 6:22:53 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Liberals seemed to agree that those countries were shitholes when making the argument for why we should accept some of the million of refugees who are fleeing them. I really don't get the disagreement here.


Honestly the bigger issue is really that the president should not be calling other countries "shitholes" no matter how true it may be. It just doesn't look good.

But of course, everyone has to focus on whether or not the countries in question are actual shitholes moving away from the actual issue.
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weapon_d00d816
01/12/18 6:23:19 PM
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There absolutely are shithole countries, it's just not something the president should ever admit unless he's in a war with said country and he's talking shit.
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Capn Circus
01/12/18 6:31:44 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
It just doesn't look good.


He didn't intend it to look anyway, if he indeed said that. This occurred in a private, closed meeting in the Oval Office. The person who should be criticized is the leaker who ran to the press, "lookie what Trump said!! He is very bad man! Tell the world!"

Whoever went to the press is a very nasty person
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The Admiral
01/12/18 6:32:24 PM
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NadYobWoc posted...
The Admiral posted...
Liberals seemed to agree that those countries were shitholes when making the argument for why we should accept some of the million refugees who are fleeing them. I really don't get the disagreement here.

It's mostly an issue of our president saying it. He's a diplomat, he should speak diplomatically..


He said it behind closed doors, not in some public announcement. I doubt most world leaders watch every word they say when having private discussions. In fact, I'd wager calling those countries "shitholes" is pretty mild by behind-the-scenes political standards.
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NadYobWoc
01/12/18 6:40:51 PM
#63:


The Admiral posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The Admiral posted...
Liberals seemed to agree that those countries were shitholes when making the argument for why we should accept some of the million refugees who are fleeing them. I really don't get the disagreement here.

It's mostly an issue of our president saying it. He's a diplomat, he should speak diplomatically..


He said it behind closed doors, not in some public announcement. I doubt most world leaders watch every word they say when having private discussions. In fact, I'd wager calling those countries "shitholes" is pretty mild by behind-the-scenes political standards.

Don't ignore the second half of my post.
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knuxnole
01/12/18 6:42:08 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Hell, there's entire continents that are shitholes...


I agree....I mean LOOK at Africa! Who would want to live in those countries? None of us obviously! I would be embarrassed visiting a lot of those places, seeing how run down it is and backwards it is. It would be like a level in Fallout.
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emblem boy
01/12/18 7:12:48 PM
#66:


Tmaster148 posted...
The Admiral posted...
Liberals seemed to agree that those countries were shitholes when making the argument for why we should accept some of the million of refugees who are fleeing them. I really don't get the disagreement here.


Honestly the bigger issue is really that the president should not be calling other countries "shitholes" no matter how true it may be. It just doesn't look good.

But of course, everyone has to focus on whether or not the countries in question are actual shitholes moving away from the actual issue.


The bigger issue is that he obviously thinks negatively of the people in those countries.
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Fam_Fam
01/12/18 7:18:30 PM
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knuxnole posted...
ABSOULTELY

Look at Haiti. Would YOU want to live there? Same with some 3rd world african countries with people living in huts, dirty water and ****. And El Salvador? No, they are pathetic.

There isn't ONE aspect that's positive about any of those countries. None! no-one can name one thing


i actually just came from visiting Botswana, and i would enjoy living there if it made sense for me and if I could get a job there. the people there are very kind and peaceful, and very good to me (a brown person). there are areas / countries that are dangerous, but the people there were very good, kind people on the whole. I WOULD live there, if circumstances made sense.

There are also areas that are worse off / different from Botswana where I would not prefer to live probably. but that has no bearing on whether or not people can come from those places and contribute positively to America
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Funbazooka
01/12/18 7:26:27 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBMoQRaQ-GY

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The Great Muta 22
01/12/18 7:41:15 PM
#69:


So many people in this topic topix going to get modded under the new rules
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knuxnole
01/13/18 11:40:01 AM
#70:


Fam_Fam posted...
knuxnole posted...
ABSOULTELY

Look at Haiti. Would YOU want to live there? Same with some 3rd world african countries with people living in huts, dirty water and ****. And El Salvador? No, they are pathetic.

There isn't ONE aspect that's positive about any of those countries. None! no-one can name one thing


i actually just came from visiting Botswana, and i would enjoy living there if it made sense for me and if I could get a job there. the people there are very kind and peaceful, and very good to me (a brown person). there are areas / countries that are dangerous, but the people there were very good, kind people on the whole. I WOULD live there, if circumstances made sense.

There are also areas that are worse off / different from Botswana where I would not prefer to live probably. but that has no bearing on whether or not people can come from those places and contribute positively to America


To me Botswana is just too backwards, I guess since you're brown you'll be with your people but since I'm white I need to be with my people.
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emblem boy
01/13/18 11:41:41 AM
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The fuck is happening here
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knuxnole
01/13/18 11:57:21 AM
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TBH I didn't even know Botswana was even a real country. It's mainly a little country in Africa so it doesn't have any value at all, but still...
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Kineth
01/13/18 12:06:05 PM
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That's some straight up racist shit that you're posting knuxhole.
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DezDroppedFreak
01/13/18 12:10:31 PM
#74:


Caution999 posted...
Most sport fans think Philadelphia is a shithole, but that's just "fun and games"


Man I'm kind of offended you didn't tag me

Only good thing about Philly is Always Sunny is based there but they don't even film on location
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knuxnole
01/13/18 12:15:02 PM
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Kineth posted...
That's some straight up racist shit that you're posting knuxhole.


no it's the opposite, I was supporting his decision to be in that country.
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DragonGirlYuki
01/13/18 5:01:51 PM
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A lot of these countries have little value in terms of economic output.
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