Current Events > Trump attacks protections for immigrants from "shithole countries"

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-attacks-protections-for-immigrants-from-
shithole-countries-in-oval-office-meeting/2018/01/11/bfc0725c-f711-11e7-91af-31ac729add94_story.html?utm_term=.7013df9f4581

President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they floated restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, according to two people briefed on the meeting.

Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here? Trump said, according to these people, referring to African countries and Haiti. He then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries like Norway, whose prime minister he met yesterday.

The comments left lawmakers taken aback, according to people familiar with their reactions. Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) and Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) proposed cutting the visa lottery program by 50 percent and then prioritizing countries already in the system, a White House official said.

A White House spokesman declined to offer an immediate comment on Trumps remarks.

Outlining a potential bipartisan deal, the lawmakers discussed restoring protections for countries that have been removed from the temporary protected status program while adding $1.5 billion for a border wall and making changes to the visa lottery system.

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Yeah because people who live in Norway, a country that routinely beats the US in every measure when the UN does it's rankings will want to come to the US.

Derp.
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Isn't El Salvador where all of the MS-13 people are coming from? Yeah, how dare we even think about sending them back.
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So what's the problem with what he said?
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El Salvador and Haiti are indeed shitholes. And now they are shitholes who think they should be able to use temporary protections to permanently stay.
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The comments left lawmakers taken aback, according to people familiar with their reactions.

Am I the only one who found this sentence completely hilarious
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good ol' trump not sugarcoating his words at all! so relatable! that's why he's pres :)
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electricbugs2 posted...

Yeah because people who live in Norway, a country that routinely beats the US in every measure when the UN does it's rankings will want to come to the US.

Derp.

The US wouldnt rank so low if we didnt have all these people from shitholes coming here.

Person who ran on being politically incorrect is politically incorrect, more at 11
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Its funny that the White House is not rushing to deny all the crap he said in this meeting.

This time there was Senators & Representatives from both parties in the room.

How the f*** is Sarah Huckabee Sanders gonna try to explain away this clusterfuck?

He may as well have repeated his aids and huts comments from a few months back. F*** just go all the way and then flip off everybody on his way out the room.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

As can be seen on this board, his slurpers are already handwaving it away and deflecting

yeah, they just view it as him not being pc
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prince_leo posted...

Bullet_Wing posted...

As can be seen on this board, his slurpers are already handwaving it away and deflecting

yeah, they just view it as him not being pc

Trump has zero standards so its not like they are magically going to have some.
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That's my president!
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take note of the two users so far who support what he said.
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Yeah, why would people want to immigrate to a non-shithole country? Stupid question. Also, someone should tell him what we have emblazoned on Ellis Island. And the sort of standards we expect our military to adhere to when dealing with foreigners.

Fucking clown baby
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Haiti is pretty terrible though...dont know which african countries he is talking about so i cant comment. But Haiti is terrible
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When a first-world country takes in millions of refugees from a shithole country, can you guess what happens?
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KazumaKiryu posted...

When a first-world country takes in millions of refugees from a shithole country, can you guess what happens?

They never, ever leave and throw a fit when you end the temporary program that opened up almost two decades ago?
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KingCrabCake posted...

Haiti is pretty terrible though...dont know which african countries he is talking about so i cant comment. But Haiti is terrible

Yeah but their FEELINGS are HURT
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"Trump's only concerned with illegal immigrants"
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Antifar posted...

Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here? Trump said, according to these people, referring to African countries and Haiti. He then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries like Norway, whose prime minister he met yesterday.

Every day I'm more convinced that Trump is actually a CEman

Not seeing the issue, but I am not surprised people are upset. I had someone try to tell me I shouldn't use the term third world country as it's not politically correct

Haiti is a shit country
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KingCrabCake posted...

Haiti is pretty terrible though...dont know which african countries he is talking about so i cant comment. But Haiti is terrible

It is, so I don't see why we should turn our nose up at immigrants who want to come here for a better life. Hell, that idea is pretty much the core of what built this country. He doesn't seem to care about them being immigrants, he just doesn't like where they come from. That's pretty fucked up tbh.
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Prove the reason they are coming here is for a better life.
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MC_BatCommander posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Haiti is pretty terrible though...dont know which african countries he is talking about so i cant comment. But Haiti is terrible

It is, so I don't see why we should turn our nose up at immigrants who want to come here for a better life. Hell, that idea is pretty much the core of what built this country. He doesn't seem to care about them being immigrants, he just doesn't like where they come from. That's pretty fucked up tbh.

I'm surprised he hasn't issued an executive order to erase the Give me your tired poor and huddled masses from the plaque at the statue of liberty

MC_BatCommander posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Haiti is pretty terrible though...dont know which african countries he is talking about so i cant comment. But Haiti is terrible

It is, so I don't see why we should turn our nose up at immigrants who want to come here for a better life. Hell, that idea is pretty much the core of what built this country. He doesn't seem to care about them being immigrants, he just doesn't like where they come from. That's pretty fucked up tbh.

We have no obligation to let anyone in. Haiti, whether it's politically correct or not, doesn't produce upstanding citizens who want to assimilate into the US. A lot of countries first world countries have merit based immigration. It's not "fucked up" to have a standard of immigration. The government has every right to determine who comes into the country. Your subjective sense on that matter is irrelevant
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MC_BatCommander posted...

It is, so I don't see why we should turn our nose up at immigrants who want to come here for a better life.

Because gang violence and all that.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

Irony posted...

Prove the reason they are coming here is for a better life.

Why else would they come here? Our pizza?

To make our country as bad as their's obviously.
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"according to two people briefed on the meeting"
hmmmmmmm

Brazil has some pretty good examples of what happens when you pump low skilled workers into cities who don't need more low skilled work. They're called shantytowns. Turns out just because you go somewhere looking for a better life doesn't mean you will find one if you don't have any skills to get jobs where you're going.
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Totes not a fat racist sack of shit
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Shithole countries do exist. This is a reality of the world. Plenty of them.

Reality WILL offend delicate sensibilities. It will offend the weak.
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not__shawn__z posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Haiti is pretty terrible though...dont know which african countries he is talking about so i cant comment. But Haiti is terrible

It is, so I don't see why we should turn our nose up at immigrants who want to come here for a better life. Hell, that idea is pretty much the core of what built this country. He doesn't seem to care about them being immigrants, he just doesn't like where they come from. That's pretty fucked up tbh.

We have no obligation to let anyone in. Haiti, whether it's politically correct or not, doesn't produce upstanding citizens who want to assimilate into the US. A lot of countries first world countries have merit based immigration. It's not "fucked up" to have a standard of immigration. The government has every right to determine who comes into the country. Your subjective sense on that matter is irrelevant

I'm a Haitian born here with both my parents having immigrated legally to the United States. My mother works full time as an LPN while my Dad is retired having worked since he immigrated to the country at 20. I have multiple family members here who immigrated and have contributed to society in various ways.

Trumps comments make me angry because my parents have worked their ass off and have given me a great life and great oppurtunity that I likely wouldn't have gotten in Haiti. I'm 26, work full time as a facilities assistant and graduated college and none of my family have ever gotten in trouble with the law. I don't care if i get modded, fuck your bullshit and generalizations. Yes, Haiti is not in a good place right now, but I guarantee there are people in that country that want to get out and give their family a better life and would contribute to society just for that.

And no we dont have Aids.

Joel_Anthony posted...

Yes, Haiti is not in a good place right now, but I guarantee there are people in that country that want to get out and give their family a better life and would contribute to society just for that.

Yeah, and they can do it by cleaning up their own country. Why should we take people that just want to leave their own country a mess rather than improve it. God forbid anything happen in the US because they would probably just cut and run again.
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Joel_Anthony posted...

I'm a Haitian born here with both my parents having immigrated legally to the United States. My mother works full time as an LPN while my Dad is retired having worked since he immigrated to the country at 20. I have multiple family members here who immigrated and have contributed to society in various ways.

Trumps comments make me angry because my parents have worked their ass off and have given me a great life and great oppurtunity that I likely wouldn't have gotten in Haiti. I'm 26, work full time as a facilities assistant and graduated college and none of my family have ever gotten in trouble with the law. I don't care if i get modded, f*** your bulls*** and generalizations. Yes, Haiti is not in a good place right now, but I guarantee there are people in that country that want to get out and give their family a better life and would contribute to society just for that.

That's great for you. Congratulations. You are exactly the type of person American wants

Your attitude is crappy. And your lack of ability to be objective about the situation is unfortunate, as well. Not all of Haiti is like you. Haiti isnt exactly a thriving metropolitan community with a high IQ. It's disingenuous to act otherwise
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not__shawn__z posted...

Joel_Anthony posted...

I'm a Haitian born here with both my parents having immigrated legally to the United States. My mother works full time as an LPN while my Dad is retired having worked since he immigrated to the country at 20. I have multiple family members here who immigrated and have contributed to society in various ways.

Trumps comments make me angry because my parents have worked their ass off and have given me a great life and great oppurtunity that I likely wouldn't have gotten in Haiti. I'm 26, work full time as a facilities assistant and graduated college and none of my family have ever gotten in trouble with the law. I don't care if i get modded, f*** your bulls*** and generalizations. Yes, Haiti is not in a good place right now, but I guarantee there are people in that country that want to get out and give their family a better life and would contribute to society just for that.

That's great for you. Congratulations. You are exactly the type of person American wants

Your attitude is crappy. And your lack of ability to be objective about the situation is unfortunate, as well. Not all of Haiti is like you. Haiti isnt exactly a thriving metropolitan community with a high IQ. It's disingenuous to act otherwise

Shut the fuck up

El Salvador is a literal shithole. I dont see the problem here.
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Lmao liberals are the worst. What am I saying that offends you? That the average IQ in Haiti is very low? Do you not understand that's the truth? Why are you upset about that? Do you think I'm responsible for how terrible of an area that is? It makes no sense

Edit- directed at @CruelBuffalo
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not__shawn__z posted...

Your attitude is crappy.

Says the guy that generalizes an entire country as having bad citizens with low IQs

not__shawn__z posted...

Haiti, whether it's politically correct or not, doesn't produce upstanding citizens who want to assimilate into the US.

[citation needed]

not__shawn__z posted...

Haiti isnt exactly a thriving metropolitan community with a high IQ

The other group mentioned in this conversation, African immigrants, are among the most highly-educated
http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2015/5/14/growing-african-immigrant-population-is-highly-educated-underemployed
http://www.aracorporation.org/files/14._africans_most_educated.pdf

Get lost with this "IQ" nonsense. You're not fooling anyone
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Bullet_Wing posted...

ShinyMuffin posted...

"according to two people briefed on the meeting"
hmmmmmmm

Yeah... This time there were senators and representatives in the meeting. If he actually didn't say those things, they'd certainly jump on this. Trump is getting more and more unhinged with each passing day.

Says the person who routinely misquotes Trump to push their agenda
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He's a troll, guys. Ignore and move on.

trump is such a human pile of shit. no wonder why america likes him so much.
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They wouldn't be fleeing those countries by the millions if they weren't shitholes.
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not__shawn__z posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Haiti is pretty terrible though...dont know which african countries he is talking about so i cant comment. But Haiti is terrible

It is, so I don't see why we should turn our nose up at immigrants who want to come here for a better life. Hell, that idea is pretty much the core of what built this country. He doesn't seem to care about them being immigrants, he just doesn't like where they come from. That's pretty fucked up tbh.

We have no obligation to let anyone in. Haiti, whether it's politically correct or not, doesn't produce upstanding citizens who want to assimilate into the US. A lot of countries first world countries have merit based immigration. It's not "fucked up" to have a standard of immigration. The government has every right to determine who comes into the country. Your subjective sense on that matter is irrelevant

You seem to be overly worked up by my post, take a breath and relax. You should cite a source on assimilation, I would be interested to read something on that.
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Axiom posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

Your attitude is crappy.

Says the guy that generalizes an entire country as having bad citizens with low IQs

Another dishonest poster. Never did I say bad
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