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ForestLogic
01/10/18 12:01:22 PM
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I always assumed shitposting was just a lighter, steadier form of trolling. Is there a real difference though?
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s0nicfan
01/10/18 12:03:08 PM
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Shitposting aims to be funny, even if it doesn't always succeed. Trolling aims only to annoy.
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Fam_Fam
01/10/18 12:03:25 PM
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i think in trolling you are actively trying to provoke people, which can be done in many ways

in shitposting you are just posting fallacious crap, which can be a method of trolling
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/10/18 12:03:54 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Shitposting aims to be funny, even if it doesn't always succeed. Trolling aims only to annoy.

this

source: am troll
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Fam_Fam
01/10/18 12:04:31 PM
#5:


yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Shitposting aims to be funny, even if it doesn't always succeed. Trolling aims only to annoy.

this

source: am troll


but this is a shitpost
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/10/18 12:04:33 PM
#6:


it can overlap tho

shitposts can be bait to annoy some, while entertaining others
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/10/18 12:04:58 PM
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When I shitpost I assume they know I'm being an ass, I usually go well beyond into the absurd. With trolling, not the case.
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Anteaterking
01/10/18 12:06:05 PM
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I don't think the terms are always used in a consistent way, but if I had to draw a distinction, I would say that with shitposting is like trolling where you sort of make sure that everyone is in on it (which does lend itself to the it's an attempt to be funny thing) whereas with trolling you're trying to fool some people.
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thanosibe
01/10/18 12:06:57 PM
#9:


Trolling is a way of life.
Shit posting happens to everyone.
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TheGrindery
01/10/18 12:07:00 PM
#10:


yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Shitposting aims to be funny, even if it doesn't always succeed. Trolling aims only to annoy.

this

source: am troll

See? I knew you were trollin' about Smash not being a fighting game.
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beechesfreeman
01/10/18 12:07:33 PM
#11:


The real question is who cares.

You're all shit posters
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ForestLogic
01/10/18 12:08:16 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
I don't think the terms are always used in a consistent way, but if I had to draw a distinction, I would say that with shitposting is like trolling where you sort of make sure that everyone is in on it (which does lend itself to the it's an attempt to be funny thing) whereas with trolling you're trying to fool some people.


Yeah that seems like a pretty sound explanation. Shitposting usually gets thrown around like it's just a gag. Trolling teens to be pretty exclusively negative.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/10/18 12:08:42 PM
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TheGrindery posted...
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Shitposting aims to be funny, even if it doesn't always succeed. Trolling aims only to annoy.

this

source: am troll

See? I knew you were trollin' about Smash not being a fighting game.

the truth hurts fam

nothing better than just shoving facts in someone's face

Smash isn't a fighter
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MC_BatCommander
01/10/18 12:09:03 PM
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shitposting is like the bottom level of trolling, it's just posting the dumbest shit possible for guaranteed reactions.
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darkphoenix181
01/10/18 12:09:37 PM
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shit posting is just a post people don't like

trolling is malicious intent to make people really angry so they will flame each other for the amusement of everyone else
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Veggeta_MAX
01/10/18 12:10:04 PM
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Shitposting is super subjective. Some consider it trolling, some consider it low effort posting. It's really stupid.
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s0nicfan
01/10/18 12:10:09 PM
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yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
nothing better than just shoving facts in someone's face

Confirm for accurate.

yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
what makes u think your more qualified on the subject than Harada exactly?

you think your viewpoint matters more than his?


https://twitter.com/harada_tekken/status/558105132819570692?lang=en
It's great party game but also great Fighting Game for More than 2 players.
RT@ctwtn Based Harada #SmashBros is a party game #EVO2015

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ForestLogic
01/10/18 12:12:34 PM
#18:


This thread is now about whether Smash is a fighting game.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/10/18 12:13:50 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
nothing better than just shoving facts in someone's face

Confirm for accurate.

yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
what makes u think your more qualified on the subject than Harada exactly?

you think your viewpoint matters more than his?


https://twitter.com/harada_tekken/status/558105132819570692?lang=en
It's great party game but also great Fighting Game for More than 2 players.
RT@ctwtn Based Harada #SmashBros is a party game #EVO2015

lmao I've responded to this like 3 times now and you never acknowledge it

get a life bruh
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s0nicfan
01/10/18 12:15:11 PM
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yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
lmao I've responded to this like 3 times now and you never acknowledge it

get a life bruh


And it's been nonsense each time, so there was no reason to respond.

You're the one who said I was not qualified to say whether SSB was a fighter because I wasn't Harada.
I linked to Harada calling it a fighting game.

Your arguments ended there.
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TheGrindery
01/10/18 12:16:30 PM
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The fighting game genre is on life support since arcades lost their popularity. I think that's what bugs him most.
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ForestLogic
01/10/18 12:16:55 PM
#22:


How is it NOT a fighting game.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/10/18 12:17:14 PM
#23:


s0nicfan posted...
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
lmao I've responded to this like 3 times now and you never acknowledge it

get a life bruh


And it's been nonsense each time, so there was no reason to respond.

You're the one who said I was not qualified to say whether SSB was a fighter because I wasn't Harada.
I linked to Harada calling it a fighting game.

Your arguments ended there.

That's not what I said at all and the fact that you keep going on about this is just sad.

Why are you so triggered over Smash Bros?
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DifferentialEquation
01/10/18 12:17:53 PM
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I'm not exactly sure what the difference is, as I've never done either.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/10/18 12:18:15 PM
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TheGrindery posted...
The fighting game genre is on life support since arcades lost their popularity. I think that's what bugs him most.

lmao what

fighting games got revived by SFIV and the genre is doing better than it has in decades

also I live in Asia, dat arcade scene is still bumpin
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0AbsoluteZero0
01/10/18 12:18:16 PM
#26:


Lets ask the clown prince of shitposting @JustMyOpinion


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s0nicfan
01/10/18 12:19:37 PM
#27:


yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
s0nicfan posted...
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
lmao I've responded to this like 3 times now and you never acknowledge it

get a life bruh


And it's been nonsense each time, so there was no reason to respond.

You're the one who said I was not qualified to say whether SSB was a fighter because I wasn't Harada.
I linked to Harada calling it a fighting game.

Your arguments ended there.

That's not what I said at all and the fact that you keep going on about this is just sad.

Why are you so triggered over Smash Bros?


You act like that topic still isn't around. I'll quote right from it:
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
Smash attempts this, creating a new subgenre of action games as a result. It plays nothing like fighting games and its creators (Sakurai, Harada, etc) don't consider it one.


yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
what makes u think your more qualified on the subject than Harada exactly?

you think your viewpoint matters more than his?


Followed by:
s0nicfan posted...

https://twitter.com/harada_tekken/status/558105132819570692?lang=en
It's great party game but also great Fighting Game for More than 2 players.
RT@ctwtn Based Harada #SmashBros is a party game #EVO2015

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MrBobGray
01/10/18 12:20:53 PM
#28:


Shitposting is just a lesser version of trolling where the hip or hetti crowd tries to pretend they invented trolling in the past couple of years. Its cringey and embarassing.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/10/18 12:21:06 PM
#29:


I'll ask you again, why are you so triggered over Smash Bros?

Repeating the same thing isn't going to accomplish a thing when I've already responded to you on these exact posts.
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s0nicfan
01/10/18 12:22:07 PM
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yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
I'll ask you again, why are you so triggered over Smash Bros?

Repeating the same thing isn't going to accomplish a thing when I've already responded to you on these exact posts.


I'm not the one insisting Smash isn't a fighting game when Harada himself says it is. The real question is why can't you just admit you're wrong?
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0AbsoluteZero0
01/10/18 12:23:32 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Lets ask the clown prince of shitposting @JustMyOpinion



I dunno, tagging me to take shots at me in a topic I'm not even in seems like you have a rather firm grasp. Stay mad.

I just figured you could enlighten us to the subtle nuances of shitposting vs trolling, since 90% of your posts are nice shitpost, kid

Am I wrong?
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/10/18 12:24:38 PM
#33:


s0nicfan posted...
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
I'll ask you again, why are you so triggered over Smash Bros?

Repeating the same thing isn't going to accomplish a thing when I've already responded to you on these exact posts.


I'm not the one insisting Smash isn't a fighting game when Harada himself says it is. The real question is why can't you just admit you're wrong?

You're the one throwing a tantrum in every thread I'm in quoting the same messages like a child.
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s0nicfan
01/10/18 12:25:37 PM
#34:


yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
s0nicfan posted...
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
I'll ask you again, why are you so triggered over Smash Bros?

Repeating the same thing isn't going to accomplish a thing when I've already responded to you on these exact posts.


I'm not the one insisting Smash isn't a fighting game when Harada himself says it is. The real question is why can't you just admit you're wrong?

You're the one throwing a tantrum in every thread I'm in quoting the same messages like a child.

yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
nothing better than just shoving facts in someone's face

Smash isn't a fighter


Only in topic where you say smash isn't a fighter. is that every topic you're in?

EDIT: And that's the funny thing about messages that are true. They keep being true no matter how many times you post it. I don't NEED other messages because the same one works just fine in completely dismantling your smash claim.
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TheGrindery
01/10/18 12:26:00 PM
#35:


ForestLogic posted...
How is it NOT a fighting game.
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MrBobGray
01/10/18 12:26:10 PM
#36:


Both of you are acting like such bitches over a video game. Both of you lose.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/10/18 12:26:45 PM
#38:


s0nicfan posted...
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
s0nicfan posted...
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
I'll ask you again, why are you so triggered over Smash Bros?

Repeating the same thing isn't going to accomplish a thing when I've already responded to you on these exact posts.


I'm not the one insisting Smash isn't a fighting game when Harada himself says it is. The real question is why can't you just admit you're wrong?

You're the one throwing a tantrum in every thread I'm in quoting the same messages like a child.

yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
nothing better than just shoving facts in someone's face

Smash isn't a fighter


Only in topic where you say smash isn't a fighter. is that every topic you're in?

You have some serious growing up to do.

I honestly don't even understand why you're so upset over this.
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s0nicfan
01/10/18 12:28:43 PM
#40:


yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
You have some serious growing up to do.

I honestly don't even understand why you're so upset over this.


I honestly don't even understand how you can still claim smash isn't a fighter.
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TheGrindery
01/10/18 12:29:20 PM
#41:


Make a definitive post explaining exactly why it isn't a fighting game. Succeed and you can just paste that when the subject comes up in the future.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/10/18 12:29:27 PM
#42:


Yeah, dude you can rant all you want but I'm not engaging in this childish bullshit anymore.

You're triggered beyond reason.
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MrBobGray
01/10/18 12:30:39 PM
#43:


The BOTH OF YOU.

BOTH.

Nobody here wants to grab drinks with either one of you after arguing over Smash Brothers.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/10/18 12:31:16 PM
#44:


MrBobGray posted...
The BOTH OF YOU.

BOTH.

Nobody here wants to grab drinks with either one of you after arguing over Smash Brothers.

lmao like i'd wanna drink with gamefaqs nerds
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s0nicfan
01/10/18 12:32:48 PM
#45:


TheGrindery posted...
Make a definitive post explaining exactly why it isn't a fighting game. Succeed and you can just paste that when the subject comes up in the future.


He refuses to even define what makes a fighting game, so don't bother. His exact words. His entire argument, at its very core, is "this is what I think and no definition exists to refute me because I refuse to accept definitions"
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
I don't think game genres should be classified by rigid definitions because the evolution of game mechanics often involves pushing boundaries of genre traditions.

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darkphoenix181
01/10/18 12:36:36 PM
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like here is an example using the topic of Islam:

trolling: hey did you guy know about the prophet's wife and (censored)
insert remark x to generalize people who would revere such a prophet
insert assertion x about the religion

now defenders will come to attack you and other people will attack them

it isn't necessarily that talking about that wife is trolling, but it is a heated topic so how you word it makes it trolling or not
if you make negative assertions it will cause a flame war and be modded

essentially the pivot of making this a troll is to heavily provoke someone to come and defend, if they don't have to defend it because you weren't implying bad things and just kinda talking about it, they could just ignore the topic or very low profile talk about it as to not get attacked by others too

shitposting: Think they call it Islam because I get to slam 70 virgins if I do good?

doesn't really say anything and it just kinda pointless
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cAPITALISATION
01/10/18 12:42:01 PM
#47:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Think they call it Islam because I get to slam 70 virgins if I do good?

As a Muslim

I loled
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ohhhhhnoooo
01/10/18 12:46:00 PM
#48:


Shitposting=no effort
Trolling=effort
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Teddytalks
01/10/18 12:48:17 PM
#49:


Shit posting is when someone post inane content that is a complete waste, and gives nothing positive or meaningful for a discussion. It can be annoying, it can be distracting, and it can aggravate users, but it isn't done intentionally to piss people off. Vegy is a prime example of a shit poster. He post garbage at a constant and consistent rate, and many people find his shit annoying. None of his content contribute meaningfully, and alot of it is bitching over women. Prime shit poster.

Trolling is when you post shit posting garbage to deliberately get a rise out of people. These are easier to spot. These would be people like Differential_Equation, unfair represent, hypncoosh, etc. They will deliberately argue about pointless and dead arguments, strawman, and say controversial and genuinely unlike things then back it up poorly, while never conceeding defeat, just to piss you off. They can be considered an advanced form of shit poster.
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