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Bad_Mojo
01/06/18 5:09:03 PM
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I know you attack them in the back, but shouldn't they move/turn slower then they do? They can fucking turn quicker than I can. Trying to do the Time Trial for the Phil Cup and they're fucking me over
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DesuDeku
01/06/18 5:10:31 PM
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I think you can attack Large Bodies from the front with magic.
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gunplagirl
01/06/18 5:11:42 PM
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Magic is the way to go. That or wait then dodge then attack their back. Or parry. But usually magic is best.
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Bad_Mojo
01/06/18 5:13:36 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Magic is the way to go. That or wait then dodge then attack their back. Or parry. But usually magic is best.


Sometimes they fall over, but most of the time they just run my ass over, lol

And the Parry just knocks them back for a second, I don't think it stuns them.
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Eevee-Trainer
01/06/18 5:14:13 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Magic is the way to go. That or wait then dodge then attack their back. Or parry. But usually magic is best.

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Bad_Mojo
01/06/18 5:15:15 PM
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gunplagirl
01/06/18 5:15:25 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Magic is the way to go. That or wait then dodge then attack their back. Or parry. But usually magic is best.


Sometimes they fall over, but most of the time they just run my ass over, lol

And the Parry just knocks them back for a second, I don't think it stuns them.


It does long enough to get behind them. And you can bull fighter dodge left, then back and turn and smack their butts.
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gunplagirl
01/06/18 5:16:04 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Magic, sure thing

But I dropped that wand, lol

That has zero impact on final stats iirc, just the order you earn them and unlock skills.
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Bad_Mojo
01/06/18 6:40:02 PM
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Yeah, you cant dodge the charge. Roll at the correct time they just follow your roll and still hits you.

Its bull shit. Then all the little ones hang around them as youre trying to kill them you cant get a fucking combo going because you smack their fucking fat belly
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GATTJT
01/06/18 6:42:00 PM
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>not choosing the wand in KH1 to have max MP

Why would you do this?
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VerisimiIitude
01/06/18 6:44:15 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...
Magic, sure thing

But I dropped that wand, lol

That has zero impact on final stats iirc, just the order you earn them and unlock skills.

Dropping the wand gives you less max MP in the end. Which affects summons, magic, and certain skills.
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gunplagirl
01/06/18 6:47:54 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Yeah, you cant dodge the charge. Roll at the correct time they just follow your roll and still hits you.

Its bull shit. Then all the little ones hang around them as youre trying to kill them you cant get a fucking combo going because you smack their fucking fat belly

Oh the charge? I was thinking of the belly leap.

For the charge, you can try abusing the properties of corners as you roll (it's how I beat several super bosses in BBS). Or just double jump.
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gunplagirl
01/06/18 6:48:40 PM
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VerisimiIitude posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...
Magic, sure thing

But I dropped that wand, lol

That has zero impact on final stats iirc, just the order you earn them and unlock skills.

Dropping the wand gives you less max MP in the end. Which affects summons, magic, and certain skills.

Ah. But wouldn't you refill mp faster with less because you'd not have to land the extra like 5 hits?
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Bad_Mojo
01/06/18 6:50:17 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...
Yeah, you cant dodge the charge. Roll at the correct time they just follow your roll and still hits you.

Its bull shit. Then all the little ones hang around them as youre trying to kill them you cant get a fucking combo going because you smack their fucking fat belly

Oh the charge? I was thinking of the belly leap.

For the charge, you can try abusing the properties of corners as you roll (it's how I beat several super bosses in BBS). Or just double jump.


Ive been playing Nioh and have played Dark Souls. Why is the combat in this so much harder to dodge? They shouldnt be able to turn on a dime like that!

And Donald and Goffy are fucking garbage as a party members
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DesuDeku
01/06/18 6:55:50 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
And Donald and Goffy are f***ing garbage as a party members

I think you're able to adjust their AI
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Bad_Mojo
01/06/18 7:07:32 PM
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DesuDeku posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...
And Donald and Goffy are f***ing garbage as a party members

I think you're able to adjust their AI


Yeah, with how much they use magic or items. They still sucks and make fights last longer becomes the mobs are not all coming to me. Theyre chasing them around and they never kill anything. So I have to chase them all over the map
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Bad_Mojo
01/06/18 8:23:13 PM
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Went back to the first town to bring down the ladder in the Acc Shop, and I went to go turn some of the dogs in when I was attacked by some Purple Monkey thing that kept jumping and flying around and would attack with something I would only assume was Demi. This must be a new mob because I've remembered everything so far from the original PS2 version, but I don't remember this guy.

Is there a secret to killing them because there was only one, but then it seemed like there were a lot more.
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I is smart
01/06/18 8:50:22 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
VerisimiIitude posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...
Magic, sure thing

But I dropped that wand, lol

That has zero impact on final stats iirc, just the order you earn them and unlock skills.

Dropping the wand gives you less max MP in the end. Which affects summons, magic, and certain skills.

Ah. But wouldn't you refill mp faster with less because you'd not have to land the extra like 5 hits?


Magic refills faster the lower your current value, max has nothing to do with it. But that extra mp is a godsend early game since you won't have to rely near as much on potions or Donald. Hell building for max mp lets you one shot the small jellyfish and diver heartless with fire in Atlantica bypassing the often clunky fighting. High mp is also great for insta-kills with gravity.
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hortanz
01/06/18 8:53:07 PM
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GATTJT posted...
>not choosing the wand in KH1 to have max MP

Why would you do this?


if you're playing on proud you should pick shield
if you're not playing on proud you shouldn't be playing the game
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I is smart
01/06/18 8:54:41 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Went back to the first town to bring down the ladder in the Acc Shop, and I went to go turn some of the dogs in when I was attacked by some Purple Monkey thing that kept jumping and flying around and would attack with something I would only assume was Demi. This must be a new mob because I've remembered everything so far from the original PS2 version, but I don't remember this guy.

Is there a secret to killing them because there was only one, but then it seemed like there were a lot more.


You have about 1 second after one of them spots you to get them in a combo and kill them, otherwise they summon a horde and snipe you to hell. Final mix added unique enemies to every world that are the only ones who drop their synth item. The more sniperwilds you kill, the better your chances of getting a drop, but you ought to ignore them until you get at least stopra.
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BLAKUboy
01/06/18 8:55:18 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Is there a secret to killing them because there was only one, but then it seemed like there were a lot more.

I may be mistaken because I basically always ignore the minigame Heartless FM added, but I believe the gimmick is to not be spotted.
And yes, getting spotted summons a shitton of them that constantly shoot you with pellets or whatever.
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Bad_Mojo
01/06/18 9:27:29 PM
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Ving_Rhames
01/06/18 9:28:34 PM
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Guard the charge. Jump behind and combo. Wash rinse repeat.
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tremain07
01/06/18 9:34:54 PM
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In the first Kingdom Hearts Donald and Goofy could at least kill things, in KH2 nobody can kill anything except for Sora meaning you have to run around killing everything while those useless dullards try to act as meat shields. The dream eaters in dream drop distance are leagues above them and most of the time Donald's MP wasting ass dies before he can cast a must needed heal spell and from what little of Kingdom Hearts 3 I've seen that has not changed a bit.
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Bad_Mojo
01/06/18 9:40:13 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Guard the charge. Jump behind and combo. Wash rinse repeat.


Guard dives me insane because I always end up rolling. This whole game's combat is driving me insane, lol. How am I having a hard time with it because can do really well in Dark Souls, Bloodborne and Nioh?
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BLAKUboy
01/06/18 9:41:10 PM
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You have to stand still to guard.
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Bad_Mojo
01/06/18 9:47:19 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
You have to stand still to guard.


Come on, I'm not that stupid, lol

I still roll when I don't mean do or Guard when I want to roll
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ArtVandelay
01/06/18 9:48:16 PM
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legitimately one of the worst designed enemies in all of gaming. I feel you tc.

edit: the fire breathing ones deserve their own tier in hell.
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Bad_Mojo
01/06/18 9:50:25 PM
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ArtVandelay posted...
legitimately one of the worst designed enemies in all of gaming. I feel you tc.

edit: the fire breathing ones deserve their own tier in hell.


Especially since they stay in the fucking alleys and you might go to the next area trying to get behind them.

I think it will be easier once I get a higher jump so I can more easily jump over their heads.
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tremain07
01/06/18 9:56:18 PM
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Just wait until you meet those jackasses with the swords and Deathballs, I fucking despise Deathballs
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Bad_Mojo
01/06/18 10:00:27 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Just wait until you meet those jackasses with the swords and Deathballs, I fucking despise Deathballs


I have played and beat this game before, buy wayyyy back when it was brand new on the PS2. So I might already know about them. Right now I'm really nervous about Atlantis because I remember the swimming because utter dog shit to control.
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tremain07
01/06/18 10:03:16 PM
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Atlantis...ATLANTIS!! ATLANTTTTTTSSSSS!!!!

Fuck you shark thing! God that thing made me hate that world so much because it spawned randomly and your only indicator of it being around is the music cue right before it comes out of nowhere and bites off a huge chunk of your HP.
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gunplagirl
01/06/18 10:08:59 PM
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Tbh after my first play through I always skipped atlantica because you can.
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Ving_Rhames
01/06/18 10:09:01 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Right now I'm really nervous about Atlantis because I remember the swimming because utter dog shit to control.


For Atlantis equip that one spell Keyblade that you can get from Merlin and just spam the shit out of magic. It makes it so much more tolerable.
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DesuDeku
01/06/18 10:32:27 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
ArtVandelay posted...
legitimately one of the worst designed enemies in all of gaming. I feel you tc.

edit: the fire breathing ones deserve their own tier in hell.


Especially since they stay in the fucking alleys and you might go to the next area trying to get behind them.

I think it will be easier once I get a higher jump so I can more easily jump over their heads.

Doesn't ice magic take a huge chunk of their health?
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