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GiftedACIII
01/03/18 2:18:38 AM
#202:


Dude sounds like the type of person to take selfies with the peace sign at a holocaust memorial.
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Nintendo_Porn
01/03/18 2:25:06 AM
#203:


wolverinev2 posted...
Nintendo_Porn posted...
I haven't read through the topic completely, but have gotten some details from discussing this with others...

- Aside from the foolish idea to upload that shit I saw nothing wrong with his initial reactions. Yes, he made that joke, but that was deflection. All he could do was tell a bad joke as means to keep his emotions in check. No one wants people to see them crack.

Furthermore, i'm a shitty amv maker, and even i have enough skills to know how to cut around actually showing the body if those views, views, VIEWS!!!! were that important. PoS...

- It seemed like he tried to see if the person...released themselves.

- Given japan's suicide rate, one has to wonder why you would go to a "suicide" forest, and expect to not see a suicide. Granted, this seems like one of those "you never think it will happen to you." type things.

- Aside from Adpocalypse 3, the consequences could also damage the perception of Gaijins in japan. I'd like to say the stupid mother fucker represents himself, but it just doesn't work that way.

- Fuck his suicide awareness bullshit! He put the dead body on the thumbnail. How expletive can you get!? Parents never taught you shame?


He also wore that goofy ass hat in such a tragic moment. Most people would have taken off the hat, stopped recording, and then stayed away from the body and called the proper authorities.

The dude literally ran up close like 10 feet from the body.. And yeah, he has a team of editors and final say on what goes up. So he obviously thought it was a good idea to upload and show the body.


- He's not japanese. He'd need the guide to handle that part, but I want to assume there is a ready way to get to fluent english speakers when calling the cops there. English is everywhere else.

- I don't know if the hat would be something on my mind in that moment, but see your point.
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wolverinev2
01/03/18 2:36:32 AM
#204:


Well the other issue is that Youtube allowed it to stay up. When everybody else does something like this, it get's taken down automatically. He had to remove the video himself, then put up a self serving, narcissistic self absorbed tweet "Apology". (That got him ripped into pieces by non Youtubers too.) Then upload a twitter video "Apologizing" again.

But from what I've heard is that his videos BEFORE that one where also terrible. He basically treated the people there like cartoons. He's done this shit before in other countries too. When he was in Italy with his brother. He dared him to take a swim in the Venice river (It's illegal). Then got butt hurt when Lamborghini refused to let them vlog the factory. (Gee, I wonder why.). His brother also got a class action lawsuit put on him by his former neighbors for being such a scumbag.

It's just sad that kids think these guys are "Mavericks" or "Savages" or "Lit". Because, mavericks don't get sued or constantly into tons of legal troubles... >_>.

(Also, I guess their parents never taught them to be respectable when going into other countries or when being around other people.)
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Chicken
01/03/18 2:43:14 AM
#205:


Youtubers cant make a fart joke without being demonetized but he can record and make fun of a suicide victims corpse and they wont touch him.
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EpicKingdom_
01/03/18 2:48:09 AM
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beechesfreeman
01/03/18 10:50:00 AM
#207:


Why do people always want corporations to do their job for them? All this trying to get good channel shut down is petty jealousy. If you don't want your kids watching them then that's your job.
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Via_Negativa
01/03/18 1:03:12 PM
#208:


Chicken posted...
Youtubers cant make a fart joke without being demonetized but he can record and make fun of a suicide victims corpse and they wont touch him.


I ain't see the video in it's entirety, but didn't he cut a promo 'bout how suicide was no joke and all of that? Saying stuff like you can seek help and talk to people... like... in the video...

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bidas100
01/03/18 1:04:35 PM
#209:


How come there's no outrage when people don't do horrible things?
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Neo1661
01/03/18 4:44:38 PM
#211:


Via_Negativa posted...
Chicken posted...
Youtubers cant make a fart joke without being demonetized but he can record and make fun of a suicide victims corpse and they wont touch him.


I ain't see the video in it's entirety, but didn't he cut a promo 'bout how suicide was no joke and all of that? Saying stuff like you can seek help and talk to people... like... in the video...

@Chicken


Yes but that doesn't excuse what he did and frankly comes off as an afterthought. He didn't mean to use this as a way to promote help for suicidal people despite what he says. Look at the whole video and his pathetic apology and it's clear he doesn't give a shit. The only thing he cares about is his bank balance.
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LightningAce11
01/03/18 5:37:55 PM
#212:


How the fuck do you earn money by making vlogs? It shouldn't be a thing.
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Kensaimage
01/03/18 5:55:47 PM
#213:


Kazi1212 posted...
Yall are being awfully unfair to the content creator. He mentions in the video multiple times how this is serious and not a joke, humor is just how he copes with grave situations. But because he looks and dresses like a douche lets all on pounce on him for being mildly insensitive. Its not like he was being a horrible person, the guy records his life for a living, he was capturing his honest reactions in the moment of the most grave situation he encountered in his life.


....right. This is about the way he dresses. STFU
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Metro2
01/03/18 7:12:39 PM
#214:


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Via_Negativa
01/03/18 9:19:52 PM
#215:


Neo1661 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
Chicken posted...
Youtubers cant make a fart joke without being demonetized but he can record and make fun of a suicide victims corpse and they wont touch him.


I ain't see the video in it's entirety, but didn't he cut a promo 'bout how suicide was no joke and all of that? Saying stuff like you can seek help and talk to people... like... in the video...

@Chicken


Yes but that doesn't excuse what he did and frankly comes off as an afterthought. He didn't mean to use this as a way to promote help for suicidal people despite what he says. Look at the whole video and his pathetic apology and it's clear he doesn't give a shit. The only thing he cares about is his bank balance.


I don't get why this is such a big deal for you.
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MarqueeSeries
01/03/18 9:28:44 PM
#216:


LightningAce11 posted...
How the fuck do you earn money by making vlogs? It shouldn't be a thing.

Why shouldn't it? It makes youtube money by bringing traffic in
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Neo1661
01/04/18 7:03:14 AM
#217:


Via_Negativa posted...
Neo1661 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
Chicken posted...
Youtubers cant make a fart joke without being demonetized but he can record and make fun of a suicide victims corpse and they wont touch him.


I ain't see the video in it's entirety, but didn't he cut a promo 'bout how suicide was no joke and all of that? Saying stuff like you can seek help and talk to people... like... in the video...

@Chicken


Yes but that doesn't excuse what he did and frankly comes off as an afterthought. He didn't mean to use this as a way to promote help for suicidal people despite what he says. Look at the whole video and his pathetic apology and it's clear he doesn't give a shit. The only thing he cares about is his bank balance.


I don't get why this is such a big deal for you.


It's hugely disrespectful to the victim, the family and Japan as well so wrong morally.

Why is a big deal to me? Apart from what I just said above... Because it hits close to home. I've been suicidal, my dad attempted suicide 8 times over span of a year or two (can't remember) when I was 16 and my mother left. He died a year and a half ago.
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Life Sympathy
01/06/18 3:15:46 AM
#218:


Via_Negativa posted...
I don't get why this is such a big deal for you.


Because you're not seeing the total picture. His vlogs are subjected to an editing process that takes hours. Through those hours, he had time to ponder if showing the dead body was a good idea or not. Not only did he think it was a good idea, he fired up photoshop and generated the custom thumbnail using said dead body as well. He sat down and thought about this shit to conclude it was a good idea to use the footage.

Having a frank discussion to the camera without showing the body is fine. He did not do this.
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Gafemage
01/06/18 11:56:26 AM
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Funkydog
01/06/18 12:00:34 PM
#220:


Gafemage posted...
has this been posted on CE yet
https://twitter.com/wetheunicorns/status/949297972986163200

Is anyone surprised he's continued to gain viewers?

He had a brief dip, but then shot right back up. The people who like him are edgy young children who don't care. They enjoy him being a "savage" and fully support him (despite him telling his viewers to not defend him and his actions were inexcusable)

The only thing that will hurt him is if YouTube does something - and it seems like they aren't going to. Kind of strange given what they did with PewDiePie and that wasn't really as close to being as bad as this.
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wolverinev2
01/06/18 1:42:30 PM
#221:


Funkydog posted...
Gafemage posted...
has this been posted on CE yet
https://twitter.com/wetheunicorns/status/949297972986163200

Is anyone surprised he's continued to gain viewers?

He had a brief dip, but then shot right back up. The people who like him are edgy young children who don't care. They enjoy him being a "savage" and fully support him (despite him telling his viewers to not defend him and his actions were inexcusable)

The only thing that will hurt him is if YouTube does something - and it seems like they aren't going to. Kind of strange given what they did with PewDiePie and that wasn't really as close to being as bad as this.


He is being sued by his clothing company for like 4mil in damages.
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Metro2
01/06/18 2:25:28 PM
#222:


Embedded version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYQcU5VXde8


This dude knows no boundaries. Privileged, and treats everything like a playground.
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chrono625
01/06/18 5:50:14 PM
#223:


Funkydog posted...
Gafemage posted...
has this been posted on CE yet
https://twitter.com/wetheunicorns/status/949297972986163200

Is anyone surprised he's continued to gain viewers?

He had a brief dip, but then shot right back up. The people who like him are edgy young children who don't care. They enjoy him being a "savage" and fully support him (despite him telling his viewers to not defend him and his actions were inexcusable)

The only thing that will hurt him is if YouTube does something - and it seems like they aren't going to. Kind of strange given what they did with PewDiePie and that wasn't really as close to being as bad as this.


He's only putting a target on him the next time he goes outside the state's.

He thinks he has diplomatic immunity but if he gets thrown into prison somewhere else, he's fucked.

Here's hoping he takes a trip to N.Korea soon.
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Gafemage
01/06/18 6:20:25 PM
#224:


chrono625 posted...
Here's hoping he takes a trip to N.Korea soon.

what's wrong with you

that's a terrible thing to wish on the people of north korea
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chrono625
01/06/18 6:22:36 PM
#225:


Gafemage posted...
chrono625 posted...
Here's hoping he takes a trip to N.Korea soon.

what's wrong with you

that's a terrible thing to wish on the people of north korea


I know. I'm sorry.

Between Kim Jong Un and trumps cock waving match they have enough to deal with as it is.
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Gamer99z
01/06/18 6:23:19 PM
#226:


Gafemage posted...
chrono625 posted...
Here's hoping he takes a trip to N.Korea soon.

what's wrong with you

that's a terrible thing to wish on the people of north korea

Plus some other vlogger did that and was fine. He actually got accused of glamorizing NK or undermining the situation there because he made everything look good in his vlog.

If anything they'd give the guy special treatment to use his dumb ass as an unintentional propaganda machine to say "see everything is fine here" or some shit.
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bidas100
01/06/18 6:24:55 PM
#227:


Remember when people wanted to send Justin Bieber to North Korea?
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Metro2
01/06/18 9:34:30 PM
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gna647
01/06/18 9:39:49 PM
#229:


Metro2 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaizKYC366c


Guess it runs in the family.


thats absolutely disgusting

im legit surprised they havent been vandalized yet
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MrBobGray
01/06/18 9:45:34 PM
#230:


He not only disrespected the dead and that forest, but went on an asinine embarrassment through Japan.
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gna647
01/06/18 9:47:08 PM
#231:


TheGrindery posted...
Offensive humor only works if people react. If nobody acknowledges them, they'll tire of it and it'll stop.

Even better, if you legitimately stop caring and paying them any mind, it won't matter if they stop or not.


"if we ignore the problem it'll go away"

absolute trash logic.
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Dragonblade01
01/06/18 9:49:22 PM
#232:


Their success is literally driven by how big a dick they can be in each of their videos.

There's no way to defend them.
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EverDownward
01/06/18 10:03:25 PM
#233:


Metro2 posted...
Embedded version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYQcU5VXde8


This dude knows no boundaries. Privileged, and treats everything like a playground.

I'm not going to say what I want to say, because I'm pretty sure I'll be modded.
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chrono625
01/06/18 11:11:08 PM
#234:


gna647 posted...
Metro2 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaizKYC366c


Guess it runs in the family.


thats absolutely disgusting

im legit surprised they havent been vandalized yet


Dude acts like a mentally stunted child. And his followers are just moronic children.

God this dude needs to just disappear. Along with his brother.

How the fuck does he not get evicted or arrested for this shit?
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TheGrindery
01/07/18 12:12:37 AM
#235:


gna647 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Offensive humor only works if people react. If nobody acknowledges them, they'll tire of it and it'll stop.

Even better, if you legitimately stop caring and paying them any mind, it won't matter if they stop or not.


"if we ignore the problem it'll go away"

absolute trash logic.

Works for that particular problem. You're just too short sighted to realize that not letting stupid and ultimately insignificant shit get under your skin is actual strength.

Instead you feel like you gotta do something since shaking it off wouldn't make you feel empowered. Apparently the thing you feel compelled to do is react angrily like he wants you to.
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Gafemage
01/07/18 12:28:13 AM
#236:


In othe news, a video of Jake Paul saying the N-word & Jake Paul nudes have both recently been leaked.
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Lorenzo_2003
01/07/18 7:17:47 AM
#237:


TheGrindery posted...
Works for that particular problem. You're just too short sighted to realize that not letting stupid and ultimately insignificant shit get under your skin is actual strength.

Instead you feel like you gotta do something since shaking it off wouldn't make you feel empowered. Apparently the thing you feel compelled to do is react angrily like he wants you to.


I doubt ignoring these Paul shitheads will work. I mean there are already billions of people who either do not support them or flat out dont know they exist, yet the Pauls keep gaining in popularity amongst the demographic theyre targeting. I dont plan on watching their videos or buying their products, but Im also not naive enough to think like they care or that even a big boycott will slow them down.
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ChainedRedone
01/07/18 7:37:25 AM
#238:


Metro2 posted...
Embedded version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYQcU5VXde8


This dude knows no boundaries. Privileged, and treats everything like a playground.


Wooow holy shit this guy.
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TheGrindery
01/07/18 9:32:02 AM
#239:


Lorenzo_2003 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Works for that particular problem. You're just too short sighted to realize that not letting stupid and ultimately insignificant shit get under your skin is actual strength.

Instead you feel like you gotta do something since shaking it off wouldn't make you feel empowered. Apparently the thing you feel compelled to do is react angrily like he wants you to.


I doubt ignoring these Paul shitheads will work. I mean there are already billions of people who either do not support them or flat out dont know they exist, yet the Pauls keep gaining in popularity amongst the demographic theyre targeting. I dont plan on watching their videos or buying their products, but Im also not naive enough to think like they care or that even a big boycott will slow them down.

A boycott would invigorate them. Don't care about them and what they're up to. Raise your kids to feel the same way.

Without this thread, I'd have no idea about this.
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