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MysticBrohan 01/12/18 12:06:19 PM #101: |
phenomenal album. Big Bank is such a fuckin slapper. Keep The Devil Off was an interesting lead single, being a hip-hop gospel fusion. and im with you on Miss Georgia Fornia for best track.
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Giggsalot 01/12/18 5:19:42 PM #102: |
2. Mount Eerie - A Crow Looked At Me
Key Track: Soria Moria ( I've spent the last forty-eight entries in this list telling you why you should all listen to those albums. I'm not going to tell you to listen to this one. Essentially a diaristic singer-songwriter album charting Phil Elverum's desolation after the death of his wife of thirteen years and mother of his infant child, A Crow Looked At Me states in its opening lines that it has no intention of being art. Elverum has called it "barely music." It's sure as fuck not entertainment. This album begins and ends as a portrait of grief - a cathartic outpouring of deep, overwhelming sorrow - to the extent that it feels borderline absurd putting it on this list at all. It would be unfair to allow the album's concept and lyrics to completely overshadow the musical value of this record. A Crow Looked at Me is a highly accomplished folk album, with beautiful melodies hidden among the meandering vocal deliveries and instinctive songwriting skill informing the subtle shifts in arrangement throughout the longer songs. This is a sparse, unpolished collection of songs, but it's a beautiful one. But to listen to this is to commit to an experience like no other album. Elverum's words on every track here are emotional gutpunches; it will take you out of everything that you are doing and bring you into a world where nothing exists but this man and his deep, all encompassing pain. The words here are not dramatic, egregious or presented with any kind of agenda - they simply hang in the air, and force you to contend with the honesty they present. It's an exercise in sharing a man's heart-wrenching devastation, and it's as harrowing and visceral as any album I've ever listened to. I'm not going to tell you to listen to A Crow Looked At Me. It is not an enjoyable album by any conventional measure. It doesn't present a full and satisfying narrative, nor are there any real lessons learned by Elverum over the course of his mourning. This is far too raw of a snapshot for that. But it is a listening experience that, once processed, feels oddly life-affirming; if nothing else, this is an album that gives you a new appreciation for what you have in life, and a reminder that love and happiness are fleeting and to be treasured. I can't think of many more powerful feelings to receive. --- And if you don't know, now you know. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giggsalot 01/12/18 5:22:54 PM #103: |
and since everyone probably knows what #1 is, fuck it. let's end this thing!
1. Lorde - Melodrama Key Track: Writer in the Dark ( What does album of the year mean anyway? Is it the one that connected with you on the deepest level? That defined your experiences of 2017 thematically? That you feel was the most objectively well crafted? Could be. And Melodrama ticks all of those boxes. But to name anything other than this as my album of the year would be ridiculous for one simple reason: I listened to this thing endlessly. Seriously. I'm not sure what my second most frequently played 2017 album was (DAMN, maybe?), but I think I spun this twice as much. It was my favourite album of the year back in July, before my relationship with my girlfriend fell apart, and that only cemented its significance to me. I listened to it tonight and it's lost absolutely none of its magic. Pure Heroine was hard to fault as an album by a suburban sixteen-year old about being a suburban sixteen-year old. I was a suburban sixteen-year old once too, and it struck a wistful chord in me - I liked it at the time, and I still do. But its limitations were so obvious that it felt clear what Lorde had to do next to fulfil her potential. She had to grow up a bit, she had to talk about something deeper while keeping her incisive wit, and she had to expand Pure Heroine's gamechanging yet one-note sound in all directions and colours without losing what made it stand out in the first place. That was all pretty clear in my mind. But it's so rare that artists actually do what I want them to! Melodrama is the album I would have dreamed Lorde would make, so much so that it's actually kind of stunning. Lorde somehow manages to maintain her laconic charisma while diving deep into her darkest emotions. The lyrics capture the sensory overload of young heartbreak astoundingly. The production and arrangements are varied, perfectly tuned and deeply satisfying. The songwriting here is just ridiculously good - even the weaker songs here would rank among the very best on Pure Heroine. And the album is utterly perfectly paced and compiled; it has a barn-burning opener, a first half full of great singles, a powerful centrepiece, a literally note-perfect second half complete with thematic and sonic callbacks to early tracks, and a, well, perfect closer. I could talk about Melodrama for years - the sound of it, the endlessly quotable lyrics, the astonishing quality of its every aspect. I have no idea if Lorde will ever top this album. The fact that I'm even entertaining the prospect that she might is frightening. But that's for another list. I can rationalize however I want why my album of the year is a pop album written by a near-teenager. But ultimately, Melodrama is my album of the year because it's the best album of the year. And it's not even really that close. --- And if you don't know, now you know. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giggsalot 01/12/18 5:28:09 PM #104: |
~ Fin ~
Thanks everyone for following this, it was a lot of fun! Happy to keep the discussion going for the next little while - if anyone has any questions/concerns/threats, don't hesitate. Here's my 2017 list in full: 1. Lorde - Melodrama 2. Mount Eerie - A Crow Looked at Me 3. Big K.R.I.T. - 4Eva is a Mighty Long Time 4. Arca - Arca 5. Sufjan Stevens - Carrie and Lowell Live 6. The Ruins of Beverast - Exuvia 7. Susanne Sundfr - Music for People in Trouble 8. Richard Dawson - Peasant 9. James Holden - The Animal Spirits 10. Kendrick Lamar - DAMN 11. Bell Witch - Mirror Reaper 12. Algiers - The Underside of Power 13. Tyler the Creator - Flower Boy 14. Ian William Craig - Slow Vessels 15. Oxbow - Thin Black Duke 16. Vince Staples - Big Fish Theory 17. Everything Everything - A Fever Dream 18. The National - Sleep Well Beast 19. Converge - The Dusk in Us 20. Blanck Mass - World Eater 21. Cunninlynguists - Rose Azura Njano 22. Slowdive - Slowdive 23. Clap! Clap! - A Thousand Skies 24. Slow - V: Oceans 25. Angles 9 - Disappeared Behind the Sun 26. Brockhampton - Saturation I - III 27. Flotation Toy Warning - The Machine that Made Us 28. Freddie Gibbs - You Only Live Twice 29. Benjamin Clementine - I Tell a Fly 30. Jonwayne - Rap Album Two 31. Young Thug - Beautiful Thugger Girls 32. Sun Kil Moon - Common as Light and Love are Red Valleys of Blood 33. Circuit des Yeux - Reaching for Indigo 34. Torres - Three Futures 35. Forest Swords - Compassion 36. IDK - IWASVERYBAD 37. Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Luciferian Towers 38. Ulver - The Assassination of Julius Caesar 39. Migos - CULTURE 40. Laura Marling - Semper Femina 41. Bicep - Bicep 42. King Krule - The Ooz 43. Moses Sumney - Aromanticism 44. Jlin - Black Origami 45. SZA - CTRL 46. Jane Weaver - Modern Kosmology 47. Heaven in Her Arms - White Halo 48. Stormzy - Gang Signs and Prayer 49. Natalia Lafourcade - Musas 50. N.E.R.D. - No One Ever Really Dies --- And if you don't know, now you know. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 01/12/18 5:34:33 PM #105: |
Giggsalot posted...
and since everyone probably knows what #1 is, fuck it. uh no i didn't? i considered guessing melodrama because i remember you recommended pure heroine heartily to me in 2013 (which i still haven't listened to lol), but i didn't because i heard that melodrama was more pop and less out there than lorde's debut. so i wasn't sure if you would be quite as into it. (not because you hate pop or anything, just didn't know if you wanted lorde to make poppy stuff.) evidently you are, though! --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 01/12/18 5:36:07 PM #106: |
as for that "best rappers of the past 3 years" debate, what did you think of logic's everybody?
kinda forgot what other rappers i wanted to bring up when i made that post >_> --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 01/12/18 5:49:16 PM #107: |
one thing worth adding to your melodrama writeup is that the entire album was co-written by jack antonoff. so your favorite album of '17 wasn't completely "written by a near-teenager"!
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Giggsalot 01/12/18 6:10:04 PM #108: |
- I figured it was fairly obvious since I alluded positively to it earlier, it was guessed and i didn't deny it, and it was probably the most highly lauded album of the year besides DAMN. But hey, I'm happy to surprise!
- Melodrama is arguably more "pop" than Pure Heroine, but only in the sense that Pure Heroine completely reshaped the pop landscape in its image. And while Melodrama is considerably more ambitious, creative and artistic, it still lives within that landscape. - Antonoff might have co-writer's credit on Melodrama from a production standpoint, and i'm sure he contributed a lot, but to undercut Lorde's contribution, even subtextually, is daft. Antonoff had his hands on everything this year, and none of it sounds like Melodrama. It's as personal, distinct and single-minded a pop album as anything this century, and that's not because of Jack Antonoff. --- And if you don't know, now you know. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giggsalot 01/12/18 6:11:05 PM #109: |
- Oh, and Logic is rubbish, sorry. He's a cut price J. Cole, and that guy's never had much going for him either.
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Mr Lasastryke 01/12/18 6:20:06 PM #110: |
Giggsalot posted...
- I figured it was fairly obvious since I alluded positively to it earlier, it was guessed and i didn't deny it, and it was probably the most highly lauded album of the year besides DAMN. yeah, i guess you loving one of the songs from the album was a clue, but that in itself doesn't say that much. after all, funk wav bounces vol. 1 wasn't on the list at all. as for it being the "highly lauded album of the year besides DAMN," i don't really follow the music critics anymore. i didn't even realize DAMN was that well received >_> - Antonoff might have co-writer's credit on Melodrama from a production standpoint, and i'm sure he contributed a lot, but to undercut Lorde's contribution, even subtextually, is daft. Antonoff had his hands on everything this year, and none of it sounds like Melodrama. It's as personal, distinct and single-minded a pop album as anything this century, and that's not because of Jack Antonoff. well, i haven't actually hard the album and know almost nothing about it. i'm just going by wikipedia where he's credited as co-writer on all of the songs (in addition to being credited as one of the producers, as well as one of the executive producers). i agree that that doesn't necessarily mean much, though. i mean, we all know the beatles songs weren't ACTUALLY all written by "lennon-mccartney." --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 01/12/18 6:23:06 PM #111: |
Giggsalot posted...
- Oh, and Logic is rubbish, sorry. He's a cut price J. Cole, and that guy's never had much going for him either. don't apologize, i haven't heard much logic and don't care for him. i was just curious as i think everybody was one of the more talked about hip hop albums last year. or maybe it wasn't, i'm clearly not that great at following the music scene anymore, so... >_> --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 01/12/18 6:44:29 PM #112: |
Great list as always
Speaking of female art pop, what are your thoughts on Fever Ray's album? --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thundersheep 01/12/18 7:00:34 PM #113: |
Giggsalot posted...
- Oh, and Logic is rubbish, sorry. He's a cut price J. Cole, and that guy's never had much going for him either. QFT. Really like what I've heard from the K.R.I.T.album (the first half) I somehow forgot about it and never went back since I found out about it while on lunch break at work one day. Somewhat similar feelings on Mount Eerie. I made it two tracks in and just went "No, I cannot handle this level of emotion right now." I read the reviews and was still completely unprepared. I'm sure I'll go back to it at some point, but... yeah, it's heavy. One question about Lorde... how do you feel about Green Light? I love the album, don't care for that song AT ALL. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 01/12/18 7:20:12 PM #114: |
oh yeah, what did you think about drake's more life? did you not like it or did you not rank it because it doesn't qualify as an "album"?
personally i LOVED passionfruit. probably my second most listened to song of 2017, after slide. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MysticBrohan 01/12/18 10:55:42 PM #115: |
god that mount eerie album was hard to listen to
might i recommend: Alex Cameron - Forced Witness australian singer/songwriter with a knack for interesting songwriting and sticky hooks. its a bit of a character album about a guy whos kinda of a sleazebag but also pretty likable. it didnt get much noise but it was one of my favorite projects of the year. --- Esto es el fin, Grande Padre ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giggsalot 01/13/18 5:28:09 PM #116: |
thanks for the praise, guys! will address the questions / comments tomorrow.
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Giggsalot 01/14/18 5:29:17 PM #117: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Great list as always Thanks! Confession time: I haven't heard it. I came late to The Knife (I only got into them with Shaking the Habitual), and only listened to the first Fever Ray album for the first time recently. I want to give it more listens, but for some reason it didn't do much for me initially, so I never got round to Plunge. It's a fairly big oversight though, my bad! thundersheep posted... Really like what I've heard from the K.R.I.T.album (the first half) I somehow forgot about it and never went back since I found out about it while on lunch break at work one day. You should really finish off that K.R.I.T. album! As I mentioned, the second disc is probably the best thing he's ever done, and contextualizes disc one in a way that elevates both. And I really like Green Light! I heard it got a mixed reception as an advance single, but I held off on it until the album came out, and I think it's a perfect opener. It's middling in the context of the album, but that's just because the song quality is so high everywhere. Great song. It's curious to me that you could hate that and like Supercut, for example. I think they're pretty similar tracks! Mr Lasastryke posted... oh yeah, what did you think about drake's more life? did you not like it or did you not rank it because it doesn't qualify as an "album"? Take Care is the only Drake album I can genuinely say I liked (NWTS is okay too), so I didn't check out More Life. Passionfruit is okay, but I could never put it with Slide. MysticBrohan posted... god that mount eerie album was hard to listen to This actually came up on my radar a few times! I didn't listen to this in full, but I checked out some singles because it sounded interesting and I wanted to like it. For some reason I just didn't though. Maybe it's the 80s aesthetics? I dunno. But something about it just turned me away, which is a shame. Dude definitely seems talented. --- And if you don't know, now you know. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giggsalot 01/15/18 4:19:25 PM #118: |
save!
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TVontheRadio 01/15/18 5:43:29 PM #119: |
i've only listened to 10 of the albums here prior to the start of the topic since i've fallen off hard listening to more new music years and years ago but i appreciate this list and the thought the you put into each write-up. i just listened to that arca album and i think i really like it! will give it more spins. also got that big krit album downloaded. i'll be checking out the others that i know will suit my taste.
melodrama is indeed excellent. a crow looked at me is one of the 10 i listened to before and yeah just the one time i did was enough. it almost feels voyeuristic. trying to engage with it with distance then just makes it sonically uninteresting for me, but i've never been a big folk fan anyway. --- all you need ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RyoCaliente 01/15/18 6:50:54 PM #120: |
How you doin'?
My name is lonely nice to meet you here's my number You can reach me 911 Flower Boy is so good. --- How paralyzingly dull, boring and tedious! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mcflubbin 01/16/18 1:33:02 AM #121: |
Excellent choice for #1. Melodrama was probably my AotY as well. I fucking love Lorde. I'm going to see her again in March and I'm super stoked.
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Giggsalot 01/17/18 2:08:50 AM #122: |
thanks guys!
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Giggsalot 01/18/18 1:03:44 PM #123: |
Okay, one more
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Giggsalot 01/20/18 3:46:04 AM #124: |
I will archive this one day
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Seginustemple 01/20/18 4:10:04 AM #125: |
I have heard exactly four of these albums - Arca/DAMN/Fever Dream/Luciferian Towers. It might take me til' next year to go through your entire list. Did not expect to see Lorde at the top
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Giggsalot 01/20/18 4:53:07 AM #126: |
neither did I! it's both the most mainstream and the most "pop" year-end #1 I've ever had, but it totally deserves it. definitely stands up to most of my other albums of the year from this decade.
crazy to see you've heard so few though, are you fading from the new music obsession wagon a little these days? obviously I'd recommend everything, and I think you'd love a lot of stuff on the list, but if you're as heavy into the funk/soul sound at the moment as I think you are, I'd maybe guide you to Flower Boy, The Animal Spirits and the N.E.R.D. album first. what were your albums of the year? --- And if you don't know, now you know. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TVontheRadio 01/20/18 9:00:46 AM #127: |
yo seg listen to flower boy
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Mr Lasastryke 01/20/18 9:51:00 AM #128: |
all topics get archived on GMUN's site now, for the record.
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Seginustemple 01/20/18 10:54:45 PM #129: |
TVontheRadio posted...
yo seg listen to flower boy Lol convinced! Never got on the Odd Future wave myself You're right on the money Giggs I don't listen to as much new stuff and when I do it's usually geared towards funk/soul/jazz for whatever reason. Off the top of my head here's the albums that stuck with me the most - Rapsody - Laila's Wisdom Thundercat - Drunk PJ Morton - Gumbo Vulfpeck - Mr Finish Line Frankie Reyes - Boleros, Valses Y Mas Organ Freeman - Respect My Art Vijay Iyer - Far From Over Chris Thile & Brad Mehldau - S/T Erin and the Wildfire - Thirst MNDSGN - Body Wash King Gizzard Lizard Wizard/Mild High Club - Sketches of Brunswick East Esperanza Spalding - Exposure Oddisee - Iceberg Moonchild - Voyager Kirin J Callinan - Bravado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 01/21/18 8:00:04 AM #130: |
i saw vijay iyer on the list and i wanted to ask "do you like brad mehldau?" and then i saw he's literally the next name on the list lol
instead i'll ask a different question: do you like yaron herman? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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