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SageHarpuia
12/23/17 8:20:10 PM
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Names are abstract titles, sex is physical and set in stone.
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Darklit_Minuet
12/23/17 8:20:53 PM
#155:


SageHarpuia posted...
Names are abstract titles, sex is physical and set in stone.

No it isn't
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beechesfreeman
12/23/17 8:24:44 PM
#156:


can't change your chromosomes
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Darklit_Minuet
12/23/17 8:25:28 PM
#157:


beechesfreeman posted...
can't change your chromosomes

Chromosome are irrelevant. Some people are born with irregular ones
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SageHarpuia
12/23/17 8:25:31 PM
#158:


Yes it is. If you disagree with that you disagree with factual science.
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MangaFan462
12/23/17 8:26:35 PM
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Don't wanna see a peepee so fair next.
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SageHarpuia
12/23/17 8:26:35 PM
#160:


Chromosome are irrelevant. Some people are born with irregular ones


That is a birth defect and is not normal.
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KazumaKiryu
12/23/17 8:27:01 PM
#161:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
beechesfreeman posted...
can't change your chromosomes

Chromosome are irrelevant. Some people are born with irregular ones


Lol how can you actually believe all this nonsense
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Darklit_Minuet
12/23/17 8:27:46 PM
#162:


SageHarpuia posted...
Yes it is. If you disagree with that you disagree with factual science.

Blindly trusting science is no better than blindly trusting religion. It just happens to be wrong on this one
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SuperExcitebike
12/23/17 8:28:20 PM
#163:


Good for Coolio
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MangaFan462
12/23/17 8:29:11 PM
#164:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
beechesfreeman posted...
can't change your chromosomes

Chromosome are irrelevant. Some people are born with irregular ones


True however very few transfolk are afflicted by chromosomal disorder, the majority have a mental illness.
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SageHarpuia
12/23/17 8:29:47 PM
#165:


Ok you literally just proved you are not even worth acknowledging in an argument. Tagged appropriately.
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Darklit_Minuet
12/23/17 8:30:30 PM
#166:


MangaFan462 posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
beechesfreeman posted...
can't change your chromosomes

Chromosome are irrelevant. Some people are born with irregular ones


True however very few transfolk are afflicted by chromosomal disorder, the majority have a mental illness.

The illness is gender dysmorphia which can be cured by transitioning
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MangaFan462
12/23/17 8:32:09 PM
#167:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
beechesfreeman posted...
can't change your chromosomes

Chromosome are irrelevant. Some people are born with irregular ones


True however very few transfolk are afflicted by chromosomal disorder, the majority have a mental illness.

The illness is gender dysmorphia which can be cured by transitioning


By cured do you mean made worse? The suicide rates for transfolk are alarmingly high, especially after 'transitioning'
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GreatEvilEmpire
12/23/17 8:34:05 PM
#168:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
beechesfreeman posted...
can't change your chromosomes

Chromosome are irrelevant. Some people are born with irregular ones


True however very few transfolk are afflicted by chromosomal disorder, the majority have a mental illness.

The illness is gender dysmorphia which can be cured by transitioning


No, it' can't.

http://www.newsweek.com/transgender-women-transgender-men-sex-change-sex-reassignment-surgery-676777

And nothing wrong with what Coolio did.
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Darklit_Minuet
12/23/17 8:34:12 PM
#169:


MangaFan462 posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
beechesfreeman posted...
can't change your chromosomes

Chromosome are irrelevant. Some people are born with irregular ones


True however very few transfolk are afflicted by chromosomal disorder, the majority have a mental illness.

The illness is gender dysmorphia which can be cured by transitioning


By cured do you mean made worse? The suicide rates for transfolk are alarmingly high, especially after 'transitioning'

Suicide rates for transgendered people are high because of how society treats them.

Post-transition rates are indeed higher than they are for the general population, but they're lower than they are pre-transitioning.

The vast majority of them never regret transitioning, and if they still kill themselves after the fact it's because society refuses to accept them
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SageHarpuia
12/23/17 8:35:35 PM
#170:


Transitioning to cure gender dysmorphia is like prescribing diet pills to cure anorexia.
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MangaFan462
12/23/17 8:36:18 PM
#171:


They aren't often accepted because it's such a bad idea to get surgically or chemically mutilated.

Those that regret are met with heavy censorship as well.
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Darklit_Minuet
12/23/17 8:37:56 PM
#172:


SageHarpuia posted...
Transitioning to cure gender dysmorphia is like prescribing diet pills to cure anorexia.

Except for the fact that prescribing diet pills to anorexics is harmful, while prescribing transition to women in the wrong body is helpful
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SageHarpuia
12/23/17 8:38:21 PM
#173:


Suicide rates for transgendered people are high because of how society treats them.

Post-transition rates are indeed higher than they are for the general population, but they're lower than they are pre-transitioning.

The vast majority of them never regret transitioning, and if they still kill themselves after the fact it's because society refuses to accept them


That's quite the sweeping generalization you've got there.
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Darklit_Minuet
12/23/17 8:46:27 PM
#174:


SageHarpuia posted...
Suicide rates for transgendered people are high because of how society treats them.

Post-transition rates are indeed higher than they are for the general population, but they're lower than they are pre-transitioning.

The vast majority of them never regret transitioning, and if they still kill themselves after the fact it's because society refuses to accept them


That's quite the sweeping generalization you've got there.

It's true.

I have a friend who was born in a female body but is male. He recently transitioned, and since he has he's been a lot more confident, more outgoing, and most of all a lot happier. All his suicidal thoughts and disgust with his body have vanished since he was fixed.

So all I can see are huge upsides, and no downsides.
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FigureOfSpeech
12/23/17 9:02:40 PM
#175:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Suicide rates for transgendered people are high because of how society treats them.

Post-transition rates are indeed higher than they are for the general population, but they're lower than they are pre-transitioning.

The vast majority of them never regret transitioning, and if they still kill themselves after the fact it's because society refuses to accept them


That's quite the sweeping generalization you've got there.

It's true.

I have a friend who was born in a female body but is male. He recently transitioned, and since he has he's been a lot more confident, more outgoing, and most of all a lot happier. All his suicidal thoughts and disgust with his body have vanished since he was fixed.

So all I can see are huge upsides, and no downsides.


Ib4 "I don't care about anecdotes."
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SageHarpuia
12/23/17 9:06:05 PM
#176:


FigureOfSpeech posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Suicide rates for transgendered people are high because of how society treats them.

Post-transition rates are indeed higher than they are for the general population, but they're lower than they are pre-transitioning.

The vast majority of them never regret transitioning, and if they still kill themselves after the fact it's because society refuses to accept them


That's quite the sweeping generalization you've got there.

It's true.

I have a friend who was born in a female body but is male. He recently transitioned, and since he has he's been a lot more confident, more outgoing, and most of all a lot happier. All his suicidal thoughts and disgust with his body have vanished since he was fixed.

So all I can see are huge upsides, and no downsides.


Ib4 "I don't care about anecdotes."

In this case I don't. You can't convince me that irreversible genital mutilation and flooding your body with foreign hormones is the best solution to a mental health problem.
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OmegaPillow
12/23/17 9:06:09 PM
#177:


I would've done the same thing ,
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Darklit_Minuet
12/23/17 9:08:23 PM
#178:


SageHarpuia posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Suicide rates for transgendered people are high because of how society treats them.

Post-transition rates are indeed higher than they are for the general population, but they're lower than they are pre-transitioning.

The vast majority of them never regret transitioning, and if they still kill themselves after the fact it's because society refuses to accept them


That's quite the sweeping generalization you've got there.

It's true.

I have a friend who was born in a female body but is male. He recently transitioned, and since he has he's been a lot more confident, more outgoing, and most of all a lot happier. All his suicidal thoughts and disgust with his body have vanished since he was fixed.

So all I can see are huge upsides, and no downsides.


Ib4 "I don't care about anecdotes."

In this case I don't. You can't convince me that irreversible genital mutilation and flooding your body with foreign hormones is the best solution to a mental health problem.

All I can say for sure is it worked. That's all that matters. Could there be better solutions? Maybe. But we don't know any yet.

Don't let a potential perfect solution be the enemy of a great solution we have already
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Drunken_Idiot
12/23/17 9:11:13 PM
#179:


Youre a nutcase.
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SageHarpuia
12/23/17 9:20:19 PM
#180:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Don't let a potential perfect solution be the enemy of a great solution we have already

SageHarpuia posted...
Transitioning to cure gender dysmorphia is like prescribing diet pills to cure anorexia.

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Darklit_Minuet
12/23/17 9:21:08 PM
#181:


SageHarpuia posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Don't let a potential perfect solution be the enemy of a great solution we have already

SageHarpuia posted...
Transitioning to cure gender dysmorphia is like prescribing diet pills to cure anorexia.

If diet pills ACTUALLY cured anorexia, you'd have a point. But they don't. They just enable someone without fixing the underlying problem.
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SageHarpuia
12/23/17 9:41:56 PM
#182:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Don't let a potential perfect solution be the enemy of a great solution we have already

SageHarpuia posted...
Transitioning to cure gender dysmorphia is like prescribing diet pills to cure anorexia.

If diet pills ACTUALLY cured anorexia, you'd have a point. But they don't. They just enable someone without fixing the underlying problem.


No kiddo, you have it backwards.
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BarneyBosco
12/23/17 10:00:34 PM
#183:


He was probably hugging and talking sexy to it before the big reveal XD

It's lucky it was only escorted out.
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Darklit_Minuet
12/23/17 10:22:38 PM
#184:


SageHarpuia posted...
No kiddo, you have it backwards.

No, you seem to not understand the difference between body dysmorphia and gender dysmorphia. The former can't be cured the way you're implying, the latter can.

Treating anorexia with diet pills does not fix the underlying problem. People can drop under 100lb with diet pills and still think they're too fat. There is no end-goal for them, giving them pills to lose more weight will not help them.

After my friend transitioned, his gender dysmorphia vanished. It was cured. His body aligned with his gender, the underlying condition was fixed.

One thing cures, the other does not.
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MangaFan462
12/23/17 11:25:43 PM
#185:


Do you like trans porn?^
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tremain07
12/24/17 10:27:22 AM
#186:


BarneyBosco posted...
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"it"?
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Darklit_Minuet
12/24/17 11:11:42 AM
#187:


MangaFan462 posted...
Do you like trans porn?^

Not particularly? I don't really have a porn preference
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SuperExcitebike
12/24/17 12:10:00 PM
#188:


A "trans female" has enough credibility as me saying I'm a duck-billed platypus.

Show me facts that prove you're a female and then I'll prove I'm a duck-billed platypus
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TheGrindery
12/24/17 12:12:26 PM
#189:


We were all told as kids that we can be anything we want to be when we grow up. Some people took that entirely too literally.
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SuperNamekGod
12/24/17 12:16:57 PM
#190:


itt people getting mad that Coolio isn't in to the shit they believe should be forced down peoples throats

hes not into trans chicks fuck you want to complain for
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SuperNamekGod
12/24/17 12:18:22 PM
#191:


If diet pills ACTUALLY cured anorexia, you'd have a point. But they don't. They just enable someone without fixing the underlying problem.

Thats exactly his point you dunce. He was saying diet pills don't help anorexia and neither do sex change operations for dysphoria.
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Drasilor
12/24/17 12:21:46 PM
#192:


Are we still going on about this dumb shit?
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Darklit_Minuet
12/24/17 12:28:17 PM
#193:


SuperNamekGod posted...
If diet pills ACTUALLY cured anorexia, you'd have a point. But they don't. They just enable someone without fixing the underlying problem.

Thats exactly his point you dunce. He was saying diet pills don't help anorexia and neither do sex change operations for dysphoria.

Except they do.

Gender dysphoria is caused by your gender not matching with your sex. Once you transition and they match, the dysphoria goes away.
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SuperExcitebike
12/24/17 12:59:49 PM
#194:


I'm so glad we are no longer being forced to accept "transgender dysphoria". It's an excuse and a decision
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Sting
12/24/17 1:12:11 PM
#195:


Coolio's still alive?
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TheGrindery
12/24/17 1:37:19 PM
#196:


Tell me why is he so blind to see that the one he hurts is he and she?
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SuperNamekGod
12/24/17 1:43:01 PM
#197:


TheGrindery posted...
Tell me why is he so blind to see that the one he hurts is he and she?

lol
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SuperNamekGod
12/24/17 1:44:29 PM
#198:


well no matter how you feel on this topic CE

we all know this wouldn't have happened if this was an Eddie Murphy concert
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faizan_faizan
12/24/17 1:45:44 PM
#199:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
SuperNamekGod posted...
If diet pills ACTUALLY cured anorexia, you'd have a point. But they don't. They just enable someone without fixing the underlying problem.

Thats exactly his point you dunce. He was saying diet pills don't help anorexia and neither do sex change operations for dysphoria.

Except they do.

Gender dysphoria is caused by your gender not matching with your sex. Once you transition and they match, the dysphoria goes away.

What do you mean by "matching" gender wth sex? How does that work?
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SuperNamekGod
12/24/17 1:46:40 PM
#200:


faizan_faizan posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
SuperNamekGod posted...
If diet pills ACTUALLY cured anorexia, you'd have a point. But they don't. They just enable someone without fixing the underlying problem.

Thats exactly his point you dunce. He was saying diet pills don't help anorexia and neither do sex change operations for dysphoria.

Except they do.

Gender dysphoria is caused by your gender not matching with your sex. Once you transition and they match, the dysphoria goes away.

What do you mean by "matching" gender wth sex? How does that work?

I think this is going off the argument that gender is really the sex you want to be or feel like you are and sex is what you actually are.
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faizan_faizan
12/24/17 1:53:01 PM
#201:


SuperNamekGod posted...
faizan_faizan posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
SuperNamekGod posted...
If diet pills ACTUALLY cured anorexia, you'd have a point. But they don't. They just enable someone without fixing the underlying problem.

Thats exactly his point you dunce. He was saying diet pills don't help anorexia and neither do sex change operations for dysphoria.

Except they do.

Gender dysphoria is caused by your gender not matching with your sex. Once you transition and they match, the dysphoria goes away.

What do you mean by "matching" gender wth sex? How does that work?

I think this is going off the argument that gender is really the sex you want to be or feel like you are and sex is what you actually are.

I get that, but he was referring to transformation, and I wanted this to be clarified. What exactly constitutes gender, and at what point does one person switch their gender. Is it wearing the other gender's clothes, imitating their mannerisms, speaking like them or simply having their genitals?
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GiftedACIII
12/24/17 1:58:22 PM
#202:


faizan_faizan posted...
SuperNamekGod posted...
faizan_faizan posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
SuperNamekGod posted...
If diet pills ACTUALLY cured anorexia, you'd have a point. But they don't. They just enable someone without fixing the underlying problem.

Thats exactly his point you dunce. He was saying diet pills don't help anorexia and neither do sex change operations for dysphoria.

Except they do.

Gender dysphoria is caused by your gender not matching with your sex. Once you transition and they match, the dysphoria goes away.

What do you mean by "matching" gender wth sex? How does that work?

I think this is going off the argument that gender is really the sex you want to be or feel like you are and sex is what you actually are.

I get that, but he was referring to transformation, and I wanted this to be clarified. What exactly constitutes gender, and at what point does one person switch their gender. Is it wearing the other gender's clothes, imitating their mannerisms, speaking like them or simply having their genitals?


There are observable biological differences between male and female brains. That is the main and real reason. Darklit has no idea what he's talking about though.
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Drasilor
12/24/17 10:03:04 PM
#203:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
SuperNamekGod posted...
If diet pills ACTUALLY cured anorexia, you'd have a point. But they don't. They just enable someone without fixing the underlying problem.

Thats exactly his point you dunce. He was saying diet pills don't help anorexia and neither do sex change operations for dysphoria.

Except they do.

Gender dysphoria is caused by your gender not matching with your sex. Once you transition and they match, the dysphoria goes away.


Yet they have the highest suicide rates....
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