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HBKick18 11/30/17 9:17:37 PM #54:	Can't tell if this topic is filled with sarcasm or just stupid people --- Proud fan of the worst team in American professional sports history: the Chicago Cubs. <cite>HBKick18 posted [p:891365426] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote>Can't tell if this topic is filled with sarcasm or just stupid people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
courier_nv 11/30/17 9:18:08 PM #55:	HBKick18 posted... Can't tell if this topic is filled with sarcasm or just stupid people didn't read the topic but knowing CE it's always a mix of both always <cite>courier_nv posted [p:891365454] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>HBKick18 posted...</cite> <quote>Can't tell if this topic is filled with sarcasm or just stupid people</quote> didn't read the topic but knowing CE it's always a mix of both always</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/30/17 9:20:15 PM #56:	Rob Cesternino posted... XplodnPnguins92 posted... if it was the other way around, san francisco would be bursting with outrage. absolutely disgusting. the criminal was deported five times and still came back to the united states. #buildthewall This. If it was a white woman that shot a gun at a mexican man, she would've gotten a death sentence. But what if it was a mexican gun that shot a man at a white woman --- http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:891365563] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rob Cesternino posted...</cite> <quote><cite>XplodnPnguins92 posted...</cite> <quote>if it was the other way around, san francisco would be bursting with outrage. absolutely disgusting. the criminal was deported five times and still came back to the united states. #buildthewall</quote> This. If it was a white woman that shot a gun at a mexican man, she would've gotten a death sentence.</quote> But what if it was a mexican gun that shot a man at a white woman </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/30/17 9:21:25 PM #57:	Rob Cesternino posted... This. If it was a white woman that shot a gun at a mexican man, she would've gotten a death sentence. I mean, statistically, killing a white woman is more likely to get you the death penalty than anything. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/death-penalty-discrimination/ Blacks and whites are murdered in about equal numbers, but what happens to their killers can be far different. Those who murder whites are much more likely to be executed than killers of blacks, Amnesty International USA said Wednesday. The human rights organization, which opposes the death penalty, said 80 percent of the 845 people executed since the United States resumed the practice in 1977 were put to death for killing whites. https://libres.uncg.edu/ir/asu/f/Holcomb_Williams_2004_White_female_victims.pdf Findings indicate that homicides with white female victims were more likely to result in death sentences than other victim race/gender dyads. http://www.ncadp.org/pages/race-of-the-victim In this 2012 study criminologist Scott Phillips examines whether or not racial disparities continue during the administration of Harris County District Attorney, Charles Rosenthal who was in office from January 1, 2001 to February 15, 2008. Previous research suggested that the impact of defendant race disappeared. But this study shows that the impact of victim race continued: death sentences were imposed on behalf of white victims at 2.5 times the rate one would expect if the system were blind to race, and death sentences were imposed on behalf of white female victims at 5 times the rate one would expect if the system were blind to race and gender. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:891365625] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rob Cesternino posted...</cite> <quote>This. If it was a white woman that shot a gun at a mexican man, she would've gotten a death sentence. </quote> I mean, statistically, killing a white woman is more likely to get you the death penalty than anything. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/death-penalty-discrimination/ <quote>Blacks and whites are murdered in about equal numbers, but what happens to their killers can be far different. Those who murder whites are much more likely to be executed than killers of blacks, Amnesty International USA said Wednesday. The human rights organization, which opposes the death penalty, said 80 percent of the 845 people executed since the United States resumed the practice in 1977 were put to death for killing whites.</quote> https://libres.uncg.edu/ir/asu/f/Holcomb_Williams_2004_White_female_victims.pdf <quote>Findings indicate that homicides with white female victims were more likely to result in death sentences than other victim race/gender dyads.</quote> http://www.ncadp.org/pages/race-of-the-victim <quote>In this 2012 study criminologist Scott Phillips examines whether or not racial disparities continue during the administration of Harris County District Attorney, Charles Rosenthal who was in office from January 1, 2001 to February 15, 2008. Previous research suggested that the impact of defendant race disappeared. But this study shows that the impact of victim race continued: death sentences were imposed on behalf of white victims at 2.5 times the rate one would expect if the system were blind to race, and death sentences were imposed on behalf of white female victims at 5 times the rate one would expect if the system were blind to race and gender.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/30/17 9:26:42 PM #58:	Joeydollaz posted... The jury, which includes three immigrants, More than a third of San Francisco was born outside of the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_San_Francisco This jury was less diverse in this respect than the city at large. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:891365918] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>Joeydollaz posted...</cite> <quote>The jury, which includes three immigrants, </quote> More than a third of San Francisco was born outside of the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_San_Francisco This jury was less diverse in this respect than the city at large.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 11/30/17 9:27:48 PM #59:	Lol @ the armchair jurors on this board. He had a fair trial. The prosecution failed to present its case. He didn't mean to shoot anyone. Why the fuck are people up in arms about this? --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:891365983] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote>Lol @ the armchair jurors on this board. He had a fair trial. The prosecution failed to present its case. He didn't mean to shoot anyone. Why the fuck are people up in arms about this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImNotAnIdiot 11/30/17 9:32:27 PM #61:	I think it's funny how so many people are feigning outrage over this without actually reading about the case at all. --- http://i.imgur.com/Q9XJftg.jpg <cite>ImNotAnIdiot posted [p:891366239] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote>I think it's funny how so many people are feigning outrage over this without actually reading about the case at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 11/30/17 9:33:19 PM #62:	hollow_shrine posted... Zikten posted... Bio1590 posted... Zikten posted... I'm just going off the headline, and what someone said in this topic about politics. didn't read the link WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS FUCKING LIKE THIS WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU don't burst a blood vessel. you'll live longer if you calm down No, I think you fucked up here and need to acknowledge it and do better going forward. You didn't really have a leg to stand on. shut the fuck up you're not the fucking CE police. who gives a fuck what you think <cite>eggcorn posted [p:891366294] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>I'm just going off the headline, and what someone said in this topic about politics. didn't read the link</quote> WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS FUCKING LIKE THIS WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU</quote> don't burst a blood vessel. you'll live longer if you calm down</quote> No, I think you fucked up here and need to acknowledge it and do better going forward. You didn't really have a leg to stand on.</quote> shut the fuck up you're not the fucking CE police. who gives a fuck what you think</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eggcorn 11/30/17 9:36:19 PM #64:	byron posted... eggcorn posted... hollow_shrine posted... Zikten posted... Bio1590 posted... Zikten posted... I'm just going off the headline, and what someone said in this topic about politics. didn't read the link WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS FUCKING LIKE THIS WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU don't burst a blood vessel. you'll live longer if you calm down No, I think you fucked up here and need to acknowledge it and do better going forward. You didn't really have a leg to stand on. shut the fuck up you're not the fucking CE police. who gives a fuck what you think Why are you so upset? I'm not im just horny so I like to say fuck is that ok byron? <cite>eggcorn posted [p:891366476] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>byron posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eggcorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>I'm just going off the headline, and what someone said in this topic about politics. didn't read the link</quote> WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS FUCKING LIKE THIS WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU</quote> don't burst a blood vessel. you'll live longer if you calm down</quote> No, I think you fucked up here and need to acknowledge it and do better going forward. You didn't really have a leg to stand on.</quote> shut the fuck up you're not the fucking CE police. who gives a fuck what you think</quote> Why are you so upset?</quote> I'm not im just horny so I like to say fuck is that ok byron?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mikablu 11/30/17 9:44:54 PM #65:	ChainedRedone posted... Why the fuck are people up in arms about this? Because an immigrant killed someone and didn't hang for it. It's just the typical CE racism. <cite>Mikablu posted [p:891366963] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>Why the fuck are people up in arms about this? </quote> Because an immigrant killed someone and didn't hang for it. It's just the typical CE racism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 11/30/17 9:49:07 PM #67:	Lonestar2000 posted... It's disgusting how liberals are pro-illegal immigrants. --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:891367227] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lonestar2000 posted...</cite> <quote>It's disgusting how liberals are pro-illegal immigrants.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tommybel89 11/30/17 10:00:14 PM #68:	Good job adding ammunition to the re-election campaign. Good job "resistance"! --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 <cite>tommybel89 posted [p:891367785] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote>Good job adding ammunition to the re-election campaign. Good job "resistance"!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tommybel89 11/30/17 10:01:56 PM #69:	Mikablu posted... ChainedRedone posted... Why the fuck are people up in arms about this? Because an immigrant killed someone and didn't hang for it. It's just the typical CE racism. Nice soft language there. Let me correct you: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, 5 time DEPORTEE, and 7 time FELON who should have not been in the country at all. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 <cite>tommybel89 posted [p:891367876] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mikablu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>Why the fuck are people up in arms about this? </quote> Because an immigrant killed someone and didn't hang for it. It's just the typical CE racism.</quote> Nice soft language there. Let me correct you: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, 5 time DEPORTEE, and 7 time FELON who should have not been in the country at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 11/30/17 10:04:34 PM #70:	byron posted... eggcorn posted... byron posted... eggcorn posted... hollow_shrine posted... Zikten posted... Bio1590 posted... Zikten posted... WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS FUCKING LIKE THIS WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU don't burst a blood vessel. you'll live longer if you calm down No, I think you fucked up here and need to acknowledge it and do better going forward. You didn't really have a leg to stand on. shut the fuck up you're not the fucking CE police. who gives a fuck what you think Why are you so upset? I'm not im just horny so I like to say fuck is that ok byron? You're taking your horniness out on www.gamefaqs.com. That's what I do all the time. cool <cite>eggcorn posted [p:891368019] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>byron posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eggcorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>byron posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eggcorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS FUCKING LIKE THIS WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU</quote> don't burst a blood vessel. you'll live longer if you calm down</quote> No, I think you fucked up here and need to acknowledge it and do better going forward. You didn't really have a leg to stand on.</quote> shut the fuck up you're not the fucking CE police. who gives a fuck what you think</quote> Why are you so upset?</quote> I'm not im just horny so I like to say fuck is that ok byron?</quote> You're taking your horniness out on www.gamefaqs.com. That's what I do all the time.</quote> cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 11/30/17 10:05:31 PM #71:	tommybel89 posted... Mikablu posted... ChainedRedone posted... Why the fuck are people up in arms about this? Because an immigrant killed someone and didn't hang for it. It's just the typical CE racism. Nice soft language there. Let me correct you: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, 5 time DEPORTEE, and 7 time FELON who should have not been in the country at all. None of those are relevant to this particular case, which has to be decided on it's own merit. I mean it's not like him not being supposed to be here somehow made his bullet magically a homing device that could come straight for this woman. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:891368072] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>tommybel89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mikablu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>Why the fuck are people up in arms about this? </quote> Because an immigrant killed someone and didn't hang for it. It's just the typical CE racism.</quote> Nice soft language there. Let me correct you: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, 5 time DEPORTEE, and 7 time FELON who should have not been in the country at all.</quote> None of those are relevant to this particular case, which has to be decided on it's own merit. I mean it's not like him not being supposed to be here somehow made his bullet magically a homing device that could come straight for this woman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 11/30/17 10:06:07 PM #72:	Bullet_Wing posted... Rob Cesternino posted... And this is why we need Donald Trump. BUILD THAT WALL! BUILD THAT WALL! BUILD THAT WALL! The wall wouldn't have done shit to stop this and you know it Bullshit, this scumbag criminal had been deported over and over again and he just kept sneaking back across the border. This shows just how badly we need to build that fucking wall. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:891368103] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rob Cesternino posted...</cite> <quote>And this is why we need Donald Trump. BUILD THAT WALL! BUILD THAT WALL! BUILD THAT WALL!</quote> The wall wouldn't have done shit to stop this and you know it</quote> Bullshit, this scumbag criminal had been deported over and over again and he just kept sneaking back across the border. This shows just how badly we need to build that fucking wall.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 11/30/17 10:07:14 PM #73:	Antifar posted... Rob Cesternino posted... This. If it was a white woman that shot a gun at a mexican man, she would've gotten a death sentence. I mean, statistically, killing a white woman is more likely to get you the death penalty than anything. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/death-penalty-discrimination/ Blacks and whites are murdered in about equal numbers, but what happens to their killers can be far different. Those who murder whites are much more likely to be executed than killers of blacks, Amnesty International USA said Wednesday. The human rights organization, which opposes the death penalty, said 80 percent of the 845 people executed since the United States resumed the practice in 1977 were put to death for killing whites. https://libres.uncg.edu/ir/asu/f/Holcomb_Williams_2004_White_female_victims.pdf Findings indicate that homicides with white female victims were more likely to result in death sentences than other victim race/gender dyads. http://www.ncadp.org/pages/race-of-the-victim In this 2012 study criminologist Scott Phillips examines whether or not racial disparities continue during the administration of Harris County District Attorney, Charles Rosenthal who was in office from January 1, 2001 to February 15, 2008. Previous research suggested that the impact of defendant race disappeared. But this study shows that the impact of victim race continued: death sentences were imposed on behalf of white victims at 2.5 times the rate one would expect if the system were blind to race, and death sentences were imposed on behalf of white female victims at 5 times the rate one would expect if the system were blind to race and gender. Jesus Antifar, haven't you learned not to bother to confuse these idiots with things like facts. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:891368156] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rob Cesternino posted...</cite> <quote>This. If it was a white woman that shot a gun at a mexican man, she would've gotten a death sentence. </quote> I mean, statistically, killing a white woman is more likely to get you the death penalty than anything. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/death-penalty-discrimination/ <quote>Blacks and whites are murdered in about equal numbers, but what happens to their killers can be far different. Those who murder whites are much more likely to be executed than killers of blacks, Amnesty International USA said Wednesday. The human rights organization, which opposes the death penalty, said 80 percent of the 845 people executed since the United States resumed the practice in 1977 were put to death for killing whites.</quote> https://libres.uncg.edu/ir/asu/f/Holcomb_Williams_2004_White_female_victims.pdf <quote>Findings indicate that homicides with white female victims were more likely to result in death sentences than other victim race/gender dyads.</quote> http://www.ncadp.org/pages/race-of-the-victim <quote>In this 2012 study criminologist Scott Phillips examines whether or not racial disparities continue during the administration of Harris County District Attorney, Charles Rosenthal who was in office from January 1, 2001 to February 15, 2008. Previous research suggested that the impact of defendant race disappeared. But this study shows that the impact of victim race continued: death sentences were imposed on behalf of white victims at 2.5 times the rate one would expect if the system were blind to race, and death sentences were imposed on behalf of white female victims at 5 times the rate one would expect if the system were blind to race and gender.</quote></quote> Jesus Antifar, haven't you learned not to bother to confuse these idiots with things like facts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 11/30/17 10:08:32 PM #74:	KazumaKiryu posted... Bullet_Wing posted... Rob Cesternino posted... And this is why we need Donald Trump. BUILD THAT WALL! BUILD THAT WALL! BUILD THAT WALL! The wall wouldn't have done shit to stop this and you know it Bullshit, this scumbag criminal had been deported over and over again and he just kept sneaking back across the border. This shows just how badly we need to build that fucking wall. Sad that this type of thing is said on CE. Not unexpected. But still sad. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:891368229] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rob Cesternino posted...</cite> <quote>And this is why we need Donald Trump. BUILD THAT WALL! BUILD THAT WALL! BUILD THAT WALL!</quote> The wall wouldn't have done shit to stop this and you know it</quote> Bullshit, this scumbag criminal had been deported over and over again and he just kept sneaking back across the border. This shows just how badly we need to build that fucking wall.</quote> Sad that this type of thing is said on CE. Not unexpected. But still sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 11/30/17 10:31:48 PM #75:	He was not charged with murder because you need to prove intent. Thats understandable. What I dont understand is how he didn't get manslaughter charges? --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:891369476] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote>He was not charged with murder because you need to prove intent. Thats understandable. What I dont understand is how he didn't get manslaughter charges?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 11/30/17 10:35:54 PM #76:	>Trump supporters for "law and order" >Don't like it when "law and order" goes against their preconceived notions. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:891369691] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote>>Trump supporters for "law and order" >Don't like it when "law and order" goes against their preconceived notions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 11/30/17 10:40:25 PM #77:	cerealbox760 posted... He was not charged with murder because you need to prove intent. Thats understandable. What I dont understand is how he didn't get manslaughter charges? If you believe that he picked up a gun and it went off, then it wouldn't even constitute that. I'm assuming the jury found it closer to accidental death. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:891369937] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>He was not charged with murder because you need to prove intent. Thats understandable. What I dont understand is how he didn't get manslaughter charges?</quote> If you believe that he picked up a gun and it went off, then it wouldn't even constitute that. I'm assuming the jury found it closer to accidental death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 11/30/17 10:45:13 PM #78:	Anteaterking posted... cerealbox760 posted... He was not charged with murder because you need to prove intent. Thats understandable. What I dont understand is how he didn't get manslaughter charges? If you believe that he picked up a gun and it went off, then it wouldn't even constitute that. I'm assuming the jury found it closer to accidental death. This whole case is ridiculous. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:891370207] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>He was not charged with murder because you need to prove intent. Thats understandable. What I dont understand is how he didn't get manslaughter charges?</quote> If you believe that he picked up a gun and it went off, then it wouldn't even constitute that. I'm assuming the jury found it closer to accidental death.</quote> This whole case is ridiculous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 11/30/17 10:48:04 PM #79:	YellowSUV posted... >Trump supporters for "law and order" >Don't like it when "law and order" goes against their preconceived notions. Whats dumber is trump supporters doubling down on the wall because of ONE case. One out of thousands. The wall they say. What about the Tax plan. Tax plan is not getting the attention it needs. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:891370340] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>YellowSUV posted...</cite> <quote>>Trump supporters for "law and order" >Don't like it when "law and order" goes against their preconceived notions.</quote> Whats dumber is trump supporters doubling down on the wall because of ONE case. One out of thousands. The wall they say. What about the Tax plan. Tax plan is not getting the attention it needs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BarneyBosco 11/30/17 10:59:22 PM #80:	UrCa1988 posted... Joeydollaz posted... The jury, which includes three immigrants, You do realize jurors need to be unanimous to convict, right? That was the point, not sure how this comment flew over so many heads lol. --- http://celebmafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Ana-Ivanovic-5.jpg PSN J_Frost77 search my PSN to join the Divinity Original Sin Community <cite>BarneyBosco posted [p:891370882] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>UrCa1988 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Joeydollaz posted...</cite> <quote>The jury, which includes three immigrants, </quote> You do realize jurors need to be unanimous to convict, right?</quote> That was the point, not sure how this comment flew over so many heads lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 11/30/17 11:09:11 PM #81:	cerealbox760 posted... Anteaterking posted... cerealbox760 posted... He was not charged with murder because you need to prove intent. Thats understandable. What I dont understand is how he didn't get manslaughter charges? If you believe that he picked up a gun and it went off, then it wouldn't even constitute that. I'm assuming the jury found it closer to accidental death. This whole case is ridiculous. Look, the common armchair juror. And he's a s*poster no less. Edit: Okay maybe not a sposter. Might have confused you for someone else. Still, a lousy armchair juror that thinks he knows all the evidence from a 2 sentence description. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:891371406] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>He was not charged with murder because you need to prove intent. Thats understandable. What I dont understand is how he didn't get manslaughter charges?</quote> If you believe that he picked up a gun and it went off, then it wouldn't even constitute that. I'm assuming the jury found it closer to accidental death.</quote> This whole case is ridiculous.</quote> Look, the common armchair juror. And he's a sposter no less. Edit: Okay maybe not a s*poster. Might have confused you for someone else. Still, a lousy armchair juror that thinks he knows all the evidence from a 2 sentence description.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Atralis 11/30/17 11:59:57 PM #83:	This will be100 times worse for immigrants than if he had been convicted. <cite>Atralis posted [p:891373656] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote>This will be100 times worse for immigrants than if he had been convicted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 12/01/17 12:06:20 AM #85:	Her last words: "Dad, help me." Now he's watched a California jury acquit the man who killed his daughter. Fucking disgusting. --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:891373974] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote>Her last words: "Dad, help me." Now he's watched a California jury acquit the man who killed his daughter. Fucking disgusting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/01/17 12:06:40 AM #86:	Atralis posted... This will be100 times worse for immigrants than if he had been convicted. Yeah, I fear an ugly reaction to this. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:891373991] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>Atralis posted...</cite> <quote>This will be100 times worse for immigrants than if he had been convicted.</quote> Yeah, I fear an ugly reaction to this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/01/17 12:08:01 AM #87:	sylverlolol posted... Her last words: "Dad, help me." Now he's watched a California jury acquit the man who killed his daughter. Fucking disgusting. Damn the jury for giving him a fair trial! He should have been summarily executed! --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:891374043] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote>Her last words: "Dad, help me." Now he's watched a California jury acquit the man who killed his daughter. Fucking disgusting.</quote> Damn the jury for giving him a fair trial! He should have been summarily executed!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
muchdran 12/01/17 12:08:33 AM #88:	Illegal immigrant. --- If liberals didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have standards at all. <cite>muchdran posted [p:891374075] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote>Illegal immigrant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 12/01/17 12:09:41 AM #89:	ChainedRedone posted... sylverlolol posted... Her last words: "Dad, help me." Now he's watched a California jury acquit the man who killed his daughter. Fucking disgusting. Damn the jury for giving him a fair trial! He should have been summarily executed! Oh shut up. This should have easily been involuntary manslaughter. Were you this accepting of the verdict with OJ, Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, etc? They all got fair trials too. Doesn't mean people can't express outrage over a bogus ruling. --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:891374121] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote>Her last words: "Dad, help me." Now he's watched a California jury acquit the man who killed his daughter. Fucking disgusting.</quote> Damn the jury for giving him a fair trial! He should have been summarily executed!</quote> Oh shut up. This should have easily been involuntary manslaughter. Were you this accepting of the verdict with OJ, Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, etc? They all got fair trials too. Doesn't mean people can't express outrage over a bogus ruling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shanefu22 12/01/17 12:10:45 AM #90:	Probably won't even be deported either. --- Bench- 550 Squat-665 Dead- 825 <cite>shanefu22 posted [p:891374169] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote>Probably won't even be deported either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Atralis 12/01/17 12:11:56 AM #91:	Antifar posted... Atralis posted... This will be100 times worse for immigrants than if he had been convicted. Yeah, I fear an ugly reaction to this. I honestly think people will look back on this as the verdict that built the wall. Fox News is going to wave the bloody shirt for a decade after this and say that Californians and other liberal states want to let illegals kill your children and it will work. This is a disaster. <cite>Atralis posted [p:891374226] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Atralis posted...</cite> <quote>This will be100 times worse for immigrants than if he had been convicted.</quote> Yeah, I fear an ugly reaction to this.</quote> I honestly think people will look back on this as the verdict that built the wall. Fox News is going to wave the bloody shirt for a decade after this and say that Californians and other liberal states want to let illegals kill your children and it will work. This is a disaster.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shanefu22 12/01/17 12:12:38 AM #92:	Atralis posted... Antifar posted... Atralis posted... This will be100 times worse for immigrants than if he had been convicted. Yeah, I fear an ugly reaction to this. I honestly think people will look back on this as the verdict that built the wall. Fox News is going to save the bloody shirt for a decade after this and say that Californians and other liberal states want to let illegals kill your children and it will work. This is a disaster. What do you expect from the liberal capital of the world. --- Bench- 550 Squat-665 Dead- 825 <cite>shanefu22 posted [p:891374258] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>Atralis posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Atralis posted...</cite> <quote>This will be100 times worse for immigrants than if he had been convicted.</quote> Yeah, I fear an ugly reaction to this.</quote> I honestly think people will look back on this as the verdict that built the wall. Fox News is going to save the bloody shirt for a decade after this and say that Californians and other liberal states want to let illegals kill your children and it will work. This is a disaster.</quote> What do you expect from the liberal capital of the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/01/17 12:12:45 AM #93:	sylverlolol posted... ChainedRedone posted... sylverlolol posted... Her last words: "Dad, help me." Now he's watched a California jury acquit the man who killed his daughter. Fucking disgusting. Damn the jury for giving him a fair trial! He should have been summarily executed! Oh shut up. This should have easily been involuntary manslaughter. Should have? Were you at the trial? Do you know all the evidence that was presented? You people are pathetic. sylverlolol posted... Were you this accepting of the verdict with OJ, Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, etc? They all got fair trials too. Doesn't mean people can't express outrage over a bogus ruling. Those people did it voluntarily, if they did it at all. And yes the people outraging over those trials are also pathetic. This guy didn't even get a true lawyer in his trial. He got a fucking public defender and they still acquited him. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:891374260] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote>Her last words: "Dad, help me." Now he's watched a California jury acquit the man who killed his daughter. Fucking disgusting.</quote> Damn the jury for giving him a fair trial! He should have been summarily executed!</quote> Oh shut up. This should have easily been involuntary manslaughter.</quote> Should have? Were you at the trial? Do you know all the evidence that was presented? You people are pathetic. <cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote>Were you this accepting of the verdict with OJ, Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, etc? They all got fair trials too. Doesn't mean people can't express outrage over a bogus ruling. </quote> Those people did it voluntarily, if they did it at all. And yes the people outraging over those trials are also pathetic. This guy didn't even get a true lawyer in his trial. He got a fucking public defender and they still acquited him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 12/01/17 12:14:19 AM #94:	ChainedRedone posted... sylverlolol posted... ChainedRedone posted... sylverlolol posted... Her last words: "Dad, help me." Now he's watched a California jury acquit the man who killed his daughter. Fucking disgusting. Damn the jury for giving him a fair trial! He should have been summarily executed! Oh shut up. This should have easily been involuntary manslaughter. Should have? Were you at the trial? Do you know all the evidence that was presented? You people are pathetic. sylverlolol posted... Were you this accepting of the verdict with OJ, Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, etc? They all got fair trials too. Doesn't mean people can't express outrage over a bogus ruling. Those people did it voluntarily, if they did it at all. And yes the people outraging over those trials are also pathetic. sylverlolol posted... Were you this accepting of the verdict with OJ, Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, etc? They all got fair trials too. Doesn't mean people can't express outrage over a bogus ruling. --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:891374326] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote>Her last words: "Dad, help me." Now he's watched a California jury acquit the man who killed his daughter. Fucking disgusting.</quote> Damn the jury for giving him a fair trial! He should have been summarily executed!</quote> Oh shut up. This should have easily been involuntary manslaughter.</quote> Should have? Were you at the trial? Do you know all the evidence that was presented? You people are pathetic. <cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote>Were you this accepting of the verdict with OJ, Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, etc? They all got fair trials too. Doesn't mean people can't express outrage over a bogus ruling. </quote> Those people did it voluntarily, if they did it at all. And yes the people outraging over those trials are also pathetic.</quote> <cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote>Were you this accepting of the verdict with OJ, Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, etc? They all got fair trials too. Doesn't mean people can't express outrage over a bogus ruling. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/01/17 12:14:52 AM #95:	https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/936451399876984833 it doesnt just matter whether you give a jury the option of a lesser included offense, like manslaughter. It matters how you argue it to the jury. It sure seems to me that there was a good argument for manslaughter here. But did the prosecutor press that home? I wasnt there, but it would not surprise me if they didnt. The reason is strategic. Prosecutors often choose the level of offense they want and argue hard for that and de-emphasize the arguments for the other levels out of concern that a jury will convict of a lesser included because its simpler to decide So it would not surprise me at all if the prosecutor didnt really forcefully and in detail make the even if it was accidental it was manslaughter argument, out of fear it would encourage the jury to choose that instead of murder --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:891374350] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/936451399876984833 <quote> it doesnt just matter whether you give a jury the option of a lesser included offense, like manslaughter. It matters how you argue it to the jury. It sure seems to me that there was a good argument for manslaughter here. But did the prosecutor press that home? I wasnt there, but it would not surprise me if they didnt. The reason is strategic. Prosecutors often choose the level of offense they want and argue hard for that and de-emphasize the arguments for the other levels out of concern that a jury will convict of a lesser included because its simpler to decide So it would not surprise me at all if the prosecutor didnt really forcefully and in detail make the even if it was accidental it was manslaughter argument, out of fear it would encourage the jury to choose that instead of murder</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/01/17 12:15:46 AM #96:	sylverlolol posted... ChainedRedone posted... sylverlolol posted... ChainedRedone posted... sylverlolol posted... Her last words: "Dad, help me." Now he's watched a California jury acquit the man who killed his daughter. Fucking disgusting. Damn the jury for giving him a fair trial! He should have been summarily executed! Oh shut up. This should have easily been involuntary manslaughter. Should have? Were you at the trial? Do you know all the evidence that was presented? You people are pathetic. sylverlolol posted... Were you this accepting of the verdict with OJ, Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, etc? They all got fair trials too. Doesn't mean people can't express outrage over a bogus ruling. Those people did it voluntarily, if they did it at all. And yes the people outraging over those trials are also pathetic. sylverlolol posted... Were you this accepting of the verdict with OJ, Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, etc? They all got fair trials too. Doesn't mean people can't express outrage over a bogus ruling. As I said, yes. Expressing disagreement is one thing. But people getting up in arms calling it "disgusting" etc is pathetic. You weren't even at the fucking trial. You don't know what evidence was presented. How could you say he was clearly guilty? --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:891374393] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote>Her last words: "Dad, help me." Now he's watched a California jury acquit the man who killed his daughter. Fucking disgusting.</quote> Damn the jury for giving him a fair trial! He should have been summarily executed!</quote> Oh shut up. This should have easily been involuntary manslaughter.</quote> Should have? Were you at the trial? Do you know all the evidence that was presented? You people are pathetic. <cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote>Were you this accepting of the verdict with OJ, Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, etc? They all got fair trials too. Doesn't mean people can't express outrage over a bogus ruling. </quote> Those people did it voluntarily, if they did it at all. And yes the people outraging over those trials are also pathetic.</quote> <cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote>Were you this accepting of the verdict with OJ, Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, etc? They all got fair trials too. Doesn't mean people can't express outrage over a bogus ruling. </quote></quote> As I said, yes. Expressing disagreement is one thing. But people getting up in arms calling it "disgusting" etc is pathetic. You weren't even at the fucking trial. You don't know what evidence was presented. How could you say he was clearly guilty?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 12/01/17 12:17:07 AM #97:	ChainedRedone posted... As I said, yes. Expressing disagreement is one thing. But people getting up in arms calling it "disgusting" etc is pathetic. Disgust is a form of disagreement. Get off your high horse. --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:891374445] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>As I said, yes. Expressing disagreement is one thing. But people getting up in arms calling it "disgusting" etc is pathetic. </quote> Disgust is a form of disagreement. Get off your high horse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/01/17 12:19:08 AM #98:	sylverlolol posted... ChainedRedone posted... As I said, yes. Expressing disagreement is one thing. But people getting up in arms calling it "disgusting" etc is pathetic. Disgust is a form of disagreement. Get off your high horse. And my statement still stands, it's pathetic. You weren't there. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:891374533] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>As I said, yes. Expressing disagreement is one thing. But people getting up in arms calling it "disgusting" etc is pathetic. </quote> Disgust is a form of disagreement. Get off your high horse.</quote> And my statement still stands, it's pathetic. You weren't there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 12/01/17 12:21:39 AM #99:	Neoconkers posted... overzealous prosecution did this This. You could have probably gotten murder 2nd degree if you just tried to instead argue that he was firing bullets in random directions but they tried to make this case political and it backfired. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:891374644] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>Neoconkers posted...</cite> <quote>overzealous prosecution did this</quote> This. You could have probably gotten murder 2nd degree if you just tried to instead argue that he was firing bullets in random directions but they tried to make this case political and it backfired.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 12/01/17 12:22:30 AM #100:	ChainedRedone posted... You weren't even at the fucking trial. You don't know what evidence was presented. How could you say he was clearly guilty? Are you really this dense? The case has been highly publicized and covered this entire time. You don't need to be physically present at the trial to form an opinion. Based on everything presented to the public, yes, this should have been involuntary manslaughter. Overzealous prosecution and politics messed it up. --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:891374698] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>You weren't even at the fucking trial. You don't know what evidence was presented. How could you say he was clearly guilty? </quote> Are you really this dense? The case has been highly publicized and covered this entire time. You don't need to be physically present at the trial to form an opinion. Based on everything presented to the public, yes, this should have been involuntary manslaughter. Overzealous prosecution and politics messed it up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/01/17 12:23:29 AM #101:	ChromaticAngel posted... Neoconkers posted... overzealous prosecution did this This. You could have probably gotten murder 2nd degree if you just tried to instead argue that he was firing bullets in random directions but they tried to make this case political and it backfired. No chance he would have gotten 2nd. Voluntary manslaughter was the only possible conviction. They deliberated for days. It's complete bullshit that jury didn't think "well you know, this one charge says it could have been involuntary". Of course they went over that. sylverlolol posted... ChainedRedone posted... You weren't even at the fucking trial. You don't know what evidence was presented. How could you say he was clearly guilty? Are you really this dense? The case has been highly publicized and covered this entire time. You don't need to be physically present at the trial to form an opinion. Based on everything presented to the public, yes, this should have been involuntary manslaughter. Overzealous prosecution and politics messed it up. You think someone who picks something off the ground, not knowing what it is should be convicted? Because that was the argument the defense had. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:891374732] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Neoconkers posted...</cite> <quote>overzealous prosecution did this</quote> This. You could have probably gotten murder 2nd degree if you just tried to instead argue that he was firing bullets in random directions but they tried to make this case political and it backfired.</quote> No chance he would have gotten 2nd. Voluntary manslaughter was the only possible conviction. They deliberated for days. It's complete bullshit that jury didn't think "well you know, this one charge says it could have been involuntary". Of course they went over that. <cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>You weren't even at the fucking trial. You don't know what evidence was presented. How could you say he was clearly guilty? </quote> Are you really this dense? The case has been highly publicized and covered this entire time. You don't need to be physically present at the trial to form an opinion. Based on everything presented to the public, yes, this should have been involuntary manslaughter. Overzealous prosecution and politics messed it up.</quote> You think someone who picks something off the ground, not knowing what it is should be convicted? Because that was the argument the defense had.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 12/01/17 12:29:38 AM #102:	ChainedRedone posted... No chance he would have gotten 2nd. Being on drugs and firing bullets randomly fits the casual disregard for human life criteria for Murder 2nd. But that's not what he was charged with. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:891374970] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>No chance he would have gotten 2nd.</quote> Being on drugs and firing bullets randomly fits the casual disregard for human life criteria for Murder 2nd. But that's not what he was charged with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/01/17 12:33:33 AM #103:	ChromaticAngel posted... ChainedRedone posted... No chance he would have gotten 2nd. Being on drugs and firing bullets randomly fits the casual disregard for human life criteria for Murder 2nd. But that's not what he was charged with. Actually it's not. Very few states have it even as a felony. Look up Shannon's law. Arizone had passed a law to make it a felony to fire randomly into the air after a middle schooler was killed by someone doing just that. He was charged with just a misdemeanor. Why do you assert things you obviously know nothing about? And yes, he was charged with 1st degree, 2nd degree and manslaughter. You don't even know the difference between charged and convicted. Come on man. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:891375174] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>No chance he would have gotten 2nd.</quote> Being on drugs and firing bullets randomly fits the casual disregard for human life criteria for Murder 2nd. But that's not what he was charged with.</quote> Actually it's not. Very few states have it even as a felony. Look up Shannon's law. Arizone had passed a law to make it a felony to fire randomly into the air after a middle schooler was killed by someone doing just that. He was charged with just a misdemeanor. Why do you assert things you obviously know nothing about? And yes, he was charged with 1st degree, 2nd degree and manslaughter. You don't even know the difference between charged and convicted. Come on man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 12/01/17 12:41:17 AM #104:	ChainedRedone posted... You don't even know the difference between charged and convicted. I literally didn't say anything about conviction. Anyway if he was charged with murder 2nd degree but they couldn't pin that on him that's the prosecution's fault. It looks as though the prosecution had a fixation on arguing that the shot was intended to kill which meant they were likely trying to argue it was a non-premeditated murder (2nd degree) instead of casual disregard for human life (also murder 2nd degree, but the argument you use in court makes all the difference.) --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:891375498] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>You don't even know the difference between charged and convicted.</quote> I literally didn't say anything about conviction. Anyway if he was charged with murder 2nd degree but they couldn't pin that on him that's the prosecution's fault. It looks as though the prosecution had a fixation on arguing that the shot was intended to kill which meant they were likely trying to argue it was a non-premeditated murder (2nd degree) instead of casual disregard for human life (also murder 2nd degree, but the argument you use in court makes all the difference.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/01/17 12:43:47 AM #105:	ChromaticAngel posted... ChainedRedone posted... You don't even know the difference between charged and convicted. I literally didn't say anything about conviction. Anyway if he was charged with murder 2nd degree but they couldn't pin that on him that's the prosecution's fault. It looks as though the prosecution had a fixation on arguing that the shot was intended to kill which meant they were likely trying to argue it was a non-premeditated murder (2nd degree) instead of casual disregard for human life (also murder 2nd degree, but the argument you use in court makes all the difference.) He was charged on first, second and manslaughter. Again, disregard for human life is not 2nd degree murder. Murder is always in some way intentional. That's what makes it murder. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:891375610] in Illegal im... [t:76048565]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>You don't even know the difference between charged and convicted.</quote> I literally didn't say anything about conviction. Anyway if he was charged with murder 2nd degree but they couldn't pin that on him that's the prosecution's fault. It looks as though the prosecution had a fixation on arguing that the shot was intended to kill which meant they were likely trying to argue it was a non-premeditated murder (2nd degree) instead of casual disregard for human life (also murder 2nd degree, but the argument you use in court makes all the difference.)</quote> He was charged on first, second and manslaughter. Again, disregard for human life is not 2nd degree murder. Murder is always in some way intentional. That's what makes it murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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