Current Events > Thor: Ragnarok was virtually perfect IMO. Did you have any criticisms?

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Just finished watching about 2 hours ago, the entire movie was enthralling, it didn't feel like it dragged at any points.
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Lame ending
Too many asspulls
Not enough Tessa Thompson

But I did enjoy it.
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My only criticism is that I didn't understand why Thor suddenly got his powerup in this movie
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dual wielding part was dumb and took me out of the movie

Hela's horn things looked stupid. She looked way more bad ass with her hair.

That's it. That's my biggest criticism.
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GOATSLAYER posted...

My only criticism is that I didn't understand why Thor suddenly got his powerup in this movie

He's always had the power, but he assumed it was the hammer that gave it to him, when it was really just to "help him control it" or whatever it was Odin said.

tl;dr: "The power has been inside you all along"
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Returning_CEmen posted...

Lame ending
Too many asspulls
Not enough Tessa Thompson

But I did enjoy it.

Lame ending? Well, how else could she have been beaten?
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Muffinz0rz posted...

GOATSLAYER posted...

My only criticism is that I didn't understand why Thor suddenly got his powerup in this movie

He's always had the power, but he assumed it was the hammer that gave it to him, when it was really just to "help him control it" or whatever it was Odin said.

tl;dr: "The power has been inside you all along"

I know that he always had the power. I'm saying that I don't understand why he suddenly had no problem controlling it without his hammer
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Yeah a few

Valkyrie girl did basically nothing fighting wise despite her supposedly being an elite soldier.

And Hela only got to fight thor for like 2 minutes before getting insta killed. They hype her up the whole goddamn movie to literally kill her in one shot in like 10 seconds. Lame. Let her and powered up thor duke it out for at least like 5 minutes or something.
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they kinda half-assed the explanation for Hulk being there
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They ruined some cool scenes for cheap laughs.


Valkyrie falling down after drinking
Banner not transforming during the jump
Asgard's destruction

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insecurity surrounding emotional scenes. specifically ruining loki/thor elevator scene with a gag. or even more egregious, asgard being destroyed and two jokes being made

oh, and dr strange manhandling thor and loki was annoying, but I just don't like any fiction where humans dominate over long-lived beings
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Squall28 posted...

They ruined some cool scenes for cheap laughs.

Asgard's destruction

What was the laugh here? I don't remember
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Dude was talking about if the foundation remains
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Squall28 posted...

Dude was talking about if the foundation remains

ohhhh yeah

not exactly the right time to crack a joke lmao
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Bruce faceplanting on the Bifrost.
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The trailers completely undersold the movie, and actually turned me off of watching it until I actually went to the theatre to watch it. Glad I went, though. It was easily more fun than GotG2.
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I didn't like some of the slap stick (banner hitting the ground after jumping out comes to mind)

But not really. I think the only flaw I can really think of was not enjoying it as much as others. Think it's in my top 5 marvel.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I didn't like some of the slap stick (banner hitting the ground after jumping out comes to mind)

But not really. I think the only flaw I can really think of was not enjoying it as much as others. Think it's in my top 5 marvel.

Everyone in the theater "oooooo'ed" at that scene instead of laughing.
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Wait, so when The Hulk jumped into the air to attack Thor and the scene cut, what happened?
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Korg was the biggest issue for me. I felt like his voice didn't fit the character and some of the jokes were unnecessary.
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Vol2tex posted...

Wait, so when The Hulk jumped into the air to attack Thor and the scene cut, what happened?

He slammed down on top of him and Thor passed out
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That rock character didn't work at all for me. The movie would've worked way better without his forced and misplaced jokes.
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...

I felt like his voice didn't fit the characte

That's the joke.
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I thought the resolution was somewhat weak but I can't think of how else they would resolve it with how powerful they made Hela. Thor's powers manifesting without his hammer holding him back or whatever probably should have been forshadowed in another movie at some point as well.

Other than that, great movie, those are pretty small issues when it comes down to it. I also agree that the trailer really undersold the movie, at least my perception of it anyway. I wasn't at all that excited to see the movie but it turned out to be one of my favorites.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

dual wielding part was dumb and took me out of the movie

Lol this
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sabin017 posted...

That rock character didn't work at all for me. The movie would've worked way better without his forced and misplaced jokes.

He and the bladed bug guy were the best part omg.

I thought all the hulk stuff dragged on too long. Idgaf about the hulk like...at all
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WizardPowers posted...

And Hela only got to fight thor for like 2 minutes before getting insta killed. They hype her up the whole goddamn movie to literally kill her in one shot in like 10 seconds. Lame. Let her and powered up thor duke it out for at least like 5 minutes or something.

You're gotta be kidding. We already saw the shitshow fight scene that was Superman vs Zod in Man of Steel, and how it just kept going on and on and on and on. Thor Ragnarok mentioned several times that Thor can not defeat Hela, so it was smart of him to work as a team to take out her soldiers, save the Asgardians and manipulate OP Surtr into wrecking Hela. He even needed Loki's help to save the day, which showed he did love and rely on him after all they'd been through and it allowed Loki to also have his own characted arc of redemption. I'm glad they did it that way. The movie had the balls to go in a different direction and not have Thor be his usual dumb self, who only knows how to bash at things.
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No one in my theater laughed at the Doctor Strange scene.
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I love that Dr Strange made an appearance, that was great.

My biggest concern is they only slight dipped into Planet Hulk/World War Hulk story and marginalized how much Hulk grew in both power and character from the comics.

World War Hulk is one of the strongest characters in the marvelverse and that difference was basically ignored.
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

WizardPowers posted...

And Hela only got to fight thor for like 2 minutes before getting insta killed. They hype her up the whole goddamn movie to literally kill her in one shot in like 10 seconds. Lame. Let her and powered up thor duke it out for at least like 5 minutes or something.

You're gotta be kidding. We already saw the shitshow fight scene that was Superman vs Zod in Man of Steel, and how it just kept going on and on and on and on. Thor Ragnarok mentioned several times that Thor can not defeat Hela, so it was smart of him to work as a team to take out her soldiers, save the Asgardians and manipulate OP Surtr into wrecking Hela. He even needed Loki's help to save the day, which showed he did love and rely on him after all they'd been through and it allowed Loki to also have his own characted arc of redemption. I'm glad they did it that way. The movie had the balls to go in a different direction and not have Thor be his usual dumb self, who only knows how to bash at things.

the fighting was the one thing people praised about MoS. And it was definately lame to reveal Thor's powers to only have him use it once and then immediately give up. They could have ended the movie exactly the same and I would have been happy. Just give a chance for Hela to actually prove she's as powerful as they were saying. All they had her do was beat up nameless, faceless jobbers. Like for real Thor vs Hulk got more screen time than Thor vs THE MAIN VILLAIN
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I give it a 5/10. It's nothing special but it's also not awful.
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The Warriors Three being killed off so unceremoniously.

And Sif not even being in the movie at all.

Hela didn't get enough screentime for her being the "big bad".

Karl Urban's character seemed underdeveloped and his sacrifice was clich and didn't have any weight behind it

Not all of the jokes landed, but that's expected of any comedy.

Action scenes were kind of mediocre

Still a great movie though
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Valkyrie wore too many clothes.
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Squall28 posted...

They ruined some cool scenes for cheap laughs.


Valkyrie falling down after drinking
Banner not transforming during the jump
Asgard's destruction

That second one was one of the funniest moments in the movie though so it can be forgiven.
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littlebro07 posted...

Squall28 posted...

They ruined some cool scenes for cheap laughs.


Valkyrie falling down after drinking
Banner not transforming during the jump
Asgard's destruction

That second one was one of the funniest moments in the movie though so it can be forgiven.

It wasn't funny because it was obvious that it was going to happen
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But for real though, they should've left out that dual wielding part. 5 seconds after he started shooting I was thinking he should've been out of ammo with that short ass magazine

And then he kept on shooting for about 30 more seconds. I can suspend my disbelief when it comes to Hela pulling out an endless number of spears of various sizes from her body but he was using normal guns
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I assumed he made some asgardian adjustments
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There's a few criticisms I have with the movie, but overall I really loved it.

The CGI on Hela looked bad during her fight with the warriors of Asgard. It was fine elsewhere.

two of the Warriors Three basically just there to die

The whole time is different didn't really make sense.

Pretty much just nitpicks.

Highwind07 posted...

I feel like I didn't really care about the Grandmaster and his little world too much. I would've rather most of the movie being about Thor and Loki's relationship to Hel than about the brothers and the gang escaping from the planet.

The comedy was on point though.

Jeff Goldberg was a delight in the role though.
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Dustin1280 posted...

World War Hulk is one of the strongest characters in the marvelverse (outside of celestials) and that difference was basically ignored.

...No he wasn't. He was still weaker than anyone he was previously weaker than.
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I more or less thought all the jokes were funny, but I do agree it was odd when someone would joke about really serious stuff (like Asgard blowing up). Also while I guess Thor might not have necessarily known the Warriors 3 were dead, he could easily assume since they weren't among the survivors, so it seems like he should've acknowledged it. And someone should have said, "Hey, where's Sif?" at some point.

Minor complaints though, I loved it. Winter Soldier and Civil War are my top two MCU films but I'm torn between this and the first Guardians for my number three. Super fun movie.
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The Top Crusader posted...

I more or less thought all the jokes were funny, but I do agree it was odd when someone would joke about really serious stuff (like Asgard blowing up). Also while I guess Thor might not have necessarily known the Warriors 3 were dead, he could easily assume since they weren't among the survivors, so it seems like he should've acknowledged it. And someone should have said, "Hey, where's Sif?" at some point.

Minor complaints though, I loved it. Winter Soldier and Civil War are my top two MCU films but I'm torn between this and the first Guardians for my number three. Super fun movie.

They didn't joke about Asgard blowing up. They said as long as the foundation stands they could rebuild it. And then one second later the foundation was destroyed so they said never mind.
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Korg (rock guy) and the Banner bridge scene was hilarious wtf. I even expected Banner not to transform but the execution was still amazing.

The joke after Asgard couldve been done without. But I liked Hela although yeah, she couldve had an extended battle scene with Thor. Maybe two minutes with reg Thor then five minutes with powered up Thor. I didnt mind how she went out as it was creative and its not definite that she died anyways.
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It was an overall good movie but it had some problems.

Hela and Loki all just pass by the Cosmic Cube and are like "meh" I guess it's possible for Loki to have stolen it off Camera and then get Surtr to destroy Asgard anyway instead of using it to wipe Hela out of existence because he'd totally do that, but there is no excuse for Hela to just leave it laying there.

Thor gets shocked with a thing to the neck and that totally takes him out instantly.

Valkyrie does nothing

Heimdall does nothing

Loki's acting skills dramatically degraded since fooling Thor as Odin in Thor 2

Zero explanation as to why Thor is back in Asgard after he supposedly left to go be with Jane

Zero explanation as to how Hulk got to Sakaar (no you cannot just fly there in a jet)

Dr. Strange only in the movie to make bad teleportation and beer jokes
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