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SageHarpuia 11/16/17 6:22:19 PM #53:	Then why is literally nobody backing you up lol --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:890526076] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote>Then why is literally nobody backing you up lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:22:20 PM #54:	Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Godnorgosh posted... Except if only I held this view, I wouldn't be telling Proudclad to go directly to the source before consulting me. This is rudimentary Marxism. But Proudclad doesn't want to talk about Marxism. Proudclad wants to talk about Romania and Venezuela. The Socialist Republic of Romania was a Marxist party. Just as much as the Democratic Republic of Korea was democratic. Dishonesty. The leaders of the Socialist Republic of Romania were staunch Marxists and espoused his rhetoric. The same is true of philosophers and thought leaders in Romania. It was very much a Marxist country. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890526077] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>Except if only I held this view, I wouldn't be telling Proudclad to go directly to the source before consulting me. This is rudimentary Marxism. But Proudclad doesn't want to talk about Marxism. Proudclad wants to talk about Romania and Venezuela. </quote> The Socialist Republic of Romania was a Marxist party.</quote> Just as much as the Democratic Republic of Korea was democratic.</quote> Dishonesty. The leaders of the Socialist Republic of Romania were staunch Marxists and espoused his rhetoric. The same is true of philosophers and thought leaders in Romania. It was very much a Marxist country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/16/17 6:23:33 PM #55:	I mean, not doing anything productive is inherently aversive. Doing the bare minimum or nothing at all for any extended period of time makes people anxious and depressed. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890526141] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote>I mean, not doing anything productive is inherently aversive. Doing the bare minimum or nothing at all for any extended period of time makes people anxious and depressed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:24:35 PM #56:	COVxy posted... I mean, not doing anything productive is inherently aversive. Doing the bare minimum or nothing at all for any extended period of time makes people anxious and depressed. So...you think people will work 40 hours a week for no profit....just because not doing so makes people feel anxious and depressed? You need to work long hours for no profit and without hope of building wealth in order to not feel anxious and depressed? And would it be safe to say that your participation in defending Communism means you support it? --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890526207] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, not doing anything productive is inherently aversive. Doing the bare minimum or nothing at all for any extended period of time makes people anxious and depressed.</quote> So...you think people will work 40 hours a week for no profit....just because not doing so makes people feel anxious and depressed? You need to work long hours for no profit and without hope of building wealth in order to not feel anxious and depressed? And would it be safe to say that your participation in defending Communism means you support it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 11/16/17 6:24:40 PM #57:	Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... a really socialist country that calls itself a communist country is for all intents and purposes a communist country. Then you have to realize that you and I will never come to an understanding. If we can't even agree on what communism is, then there is no productive discussion to be had. That is really all there is to it. I'm really stupid and according to you I've never read a history book. I'd love to hear your take on what communism is so I can learn if that is the case :) How do you envision it working? You have the chance to convert someone :) <cite>Romes187 posted [p:890526212] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> a really socialist country that calls itself a communist country is for all intents and purposes a communist country.</quote> Then you have to realize that you and I will never come to an understanding. If we can't even agree on what communism is, then there is no productive discussion to be had. That is really all there is to it.</quote> I'm really stupid and according to you I've never read a history book. I'd love to hear your take on what communism is so I can learn if that is the case :) How do you envision it working? You have the chance to convert someone :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:24:55 PM #58:	@The_Admiral are you seeing this shit? --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890526228] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote>@The_Admiral are you seeing this shit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MysticMismagius 11/16/17 6:25:42 PM #60:	How come this conversation became about communism? --- I'm not very good at this... <cite>MysticMismagius posted [p:890526276] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote>How come this conversation became about communism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:25:45 PM #61:	Romes187 posted... Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... a really socialist country that calls itself a communist country is for all intents and purposes a communist country. Then you have to realize that you and I will never come to an understanding. If we can't even agree on what communism is, then there is no productive discussion to be had. That is really all there is to it. I'm really stupid and according to you I've never read a history book. I'd love to hear your take on what communism is so I can learn if that is the case :) How do you envision it working? You have the chance to convert someone :) I recommend the book The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression. I'll even pay for your copy if you want. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890526278] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> a really socialist country that calls itself a communist country is for all intents and purposes a communist country.</quote> Then you have to realize that you and I will never come to an understanding. If we can't even agree on what communism is, then there is no productive discussion to be had. That is really all there is to it.</quote> I'm really stupid and according to you I've never read a history book. I'd love to hear your take on what communism is so I can learn if that is the case :) How do you envision it working? You have the chance to convert someone :)</quote> I recommend the book The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression. I'll even pay for your copy if you want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/16/17 6:26:22 PM #62:	FLUFFYGERM posted... So...you think people will work 40 hours a week for no profit....just because not doing so makes people feel anxious and depressed? You need to work long hours for no profit and without hope of building wealth in order to not feel anxious and depressed? 40 hours a week aren't really long hours, it's pretty lax. If I were working any less than that I would tear my hair out, as would most people. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890526316] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So...you think people will work 40 hours a week for no profit....just because not doing so makes people feel anxious and depressed? You need to work long hours for no profit and without hope of building wealth in order to not feel anxious and depressed? </quote> 40 hours a week aren't really long hours, it's pretty lax. If I were working any less than that I would tear my hair out, as would most people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:26:43 PM #63:	Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Why should I produce more than ten hammers a year if I can produce just ten hammers and have all of my needs taken care of? That's a good question. Why should you? And why should we produce so many vacant houses and so much food that just goes to waste anyway? Produce what you need. Because there might be a real need for more than ten hammers, but without an incentive to me as an individual I can't be bothered to produce more than the bare minimum. Since my needs are taken care of. Why should anyone work hard and innovate if there's no profit to be gained from it? Why not just work the easiest job we can and play videogames the rest of the time? --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890526344] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Why should I produce more than ten hammers a year if I can produce just ten hammers and have all of my needs taken care of?</quote> That's a good question. Why should you? And why should we produce so many vacant houses and so much food that just goes to waste anyway? Produce what you need.</quote> Because there might be a real need for more than ten hammers, but without an incentive to me as an individual I can't be bothered to produce more than the bare minimum. Since my needs are taken care of. Why should anyone work hard and innovate if there's no profit to be gained from it? Why not just work the easiest job we can and play videogames the rest of the time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:27:59 PM #64:	COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... So...you think people will work 40 hours a week for no profit....just because not doing so makes people feel anxious and depressed? You need to work long hours for no profit and without hope of building wealth in order to not feel anxious and depressed? 40 hours a week aren't really long hours, it's pretty lax. If I were working any less than that I would tear my hair out, as would most people. This is a delusion. People in Europe work less than we do, some 30-35 hours for full-time work, and they claim to be happier as a result of it. And data supports that. Working less hours as we become more productive is good for mental health. You're being very dishonest. So I'll just ask again, since you've gotten me curious - can I safely assume that since you're defending Communism, you support Communism? --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890526415] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So...you think people will work 40 hours a week for no profit....just because not doing so makes people feel anxious and depressed? You need to work long hours for no profit and without hope of building wealth in order to not feel anxious and depressed? </quote> 40 hours a week aren't really long hours, it's pretty lax. If I were working any less than that I would tear my hair out, as would most people.</quote> This is a delusion. People in Europe work less than we do, some 30-35 hours for full-time work, and they claim to be happier as a result of it. And data supports that. Working less hours as we become more productive is good for mental health. You're being very dishonest. So I'll just ask again, since you've gotten me curious - can I safely assume that since you're defending Communism, you support Communism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/16/17 6:28:14 PM #65:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Why should anyone work hard and innovate if there's no profit to be gained from it? Why not just work the easiest job we can and play videogames the rest of the time? Why don't people do that? The monetary incentive to work ratio isn't exactly linear. In the current system, you already have evidence for motivation beyond monetary incentive, and it's the fact that work:money ratio isn't a constant. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890526434] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Why should anyone work hard and innovate if there's no profit to be gained from it? Why not just work the easiest job we can and play videogames the rest of the time? </quote> Why don't people do that? The monetary incentive to work ratio isn't exactly linear. In the current system, you already have evidence for motivation beyond monetary incentive, and it's the fact that work:money ratio isn't a constant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 11/16/17 6:28:21 PM #66:	COVxy posted... I mean, not doing anything productive is inherently aversive. Doing the bare minimum or nothing at all for any extended period of time makes people anxious and depressed. So, you're saying people will flock to working any and every job for no pay because reasons? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:890526440] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, not doing anything productive is inherently aversive. Doing the bare minimum or nothing at all for any extended period of time makes people anxious and depressed.</quote> So, you're saying people will flock to working any and every job for no pay because reasons?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 11/16/17 6:29:07 PM #67:	COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Why should anyone work hard and innovate if there's no profit to be gained from it? Why not just work the easiest job we can and play videogames the rest of the time? Why don't people do that? The monetary incentive to work ratio isn't exactly linear. In the current system, you already have evidence for motivation beyond monetary incentive, and it's the fact that work:money ratio isn't a constant. So you're argument that because the work-to-money ratio isn't constant, people will work for literally nothing? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:890526486] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Why should anyone work hard and innovate if there's no profit to be gained from it? Why not just work the easiest job we can and play videogames the rest of the time? </quote> Why don't people do that? The monetary incentive to work ratio isn't exactly linear. In the current system, you already have evidence for motivation beyond monetary incentive, and it's the fact that work:money ratio isn't a constant.</quote> So you're argument that because the work-to-money ratio isn't constant, people will work for literally nothing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:30:18 PM #69:	COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Why should anyone work hard and innovate if there's no profit to be gained from it? Why not just work the easiest job we can and play videogames the rest of the time? Why don't people do that? The monetary incentive to work ratio isn't exactly linear. In the current system, you already have evidence for motivation beyond monetary incentive, and it's the fact that work:money ratio isn't a constant. It's true that sometimes novelty pushes us to work. I once took a job at SpaceX for less pay than I could've earned elsewhere because of the novelty. But that was a temporary thing so that I can build my skills in the journey to seek more pay and prestige down the road. I wouldn't work any difficult job for 40 years unless I was getting paid well to do so. And I wouldn't sacrifice my time for business ventures unless I had the hope of making a profit from doing so. The majority of people are the same, because this is rational behavior. Most people would not work grueling hours and grueling jobs if there was no profit in it. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890526557] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Why should anyone work hard and innovate if there's no profit to be gained from it? Why not just work the easiest job we can and play videogames the rest of the time? </quote> Why don't people do that? The monetary incentive to work ratio isn't exactly linear. In the current system, you already have evidence for motivation beyond monetary incentive, and it's the fact that work:money ratio isn't a constant.</quote> It's true that sometimes novelty pushes us to work. I once took a job at SpaceX for less pay than I could've earned elsewhere because of the novelty. But that was a temporary thing so that I can build my skills in the journey to seek more pay and prestige down the road. I wouldn't work any difficult job for 40 years unless I was getting paid well to do so. And I wouldn't sacrifice my time for business ventures unless I had the hope of making a profit from doing so. The majority of people are the same, because this is rational behavior. Most people would not work grueling hours and grueling jobs if there was no profit in it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 11/16/17 6:30:41 PM #70:	AlternativeFAQS posted... darkprince45 posted... C_Pain posted... why would you want to be a police officer op? gov't is tyranny so you're just an agent for control and if you genuinely wanna do good, why not do something where you don't deal with the worst of the worst and risk your well being for little pay Lol and 65k starting is ok for me Do I need to explain tax brackets to you again? You've never once done that. And I know how they work. I know I won't get anywhere near 65k but for starting I'm perfectly satisfied with that --- Cubs, Rockies, Grizzlies, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:890526574] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C_Pain posted...</cite> <quote>why would you want to be a police officer op? gov't is tyranny so you're just an agent for control and if you genuinely wanna do good, why not do something where you don't deal with the worst of the worst and risk your well being for little pay</quote> Lol and 65k starting is ok for me</quote> Do I need to explain tax brackets to you again?</quote> You've never once done that. And I know how they work. I know I won't get anywhere near 65k but for starting I'm perfectly satisfied with that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/16/17 6:30:43 PM #71:	FLUFFYGERM posted... This is a delusion. People in Europe work less than we do, some 30-35 hours for full-time work, and they claim to be happier as a result of it. And data supports that. Working less hours as we become more productive is good for mental health. You're being very dishonest. We're not too far off from the majority of European countries, in terms of average work hours. Measures of subjective purpose correlate pretty well with levels of depression and anxiety, iirc. Being unemployed increases risk factors for these mental illnesses, though there are many reasons for this. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890526577] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>This is a delusion. People in Europe work less than we do, some 30-35 hours for full-time work, and they claim to be happier as a result of it. And data supports that. Working less hours as we become more productive is good for mental health. You're being very dishonest. </quote> We're not too far off from the majority of European countries, in terms of average work hours. Measures of subjective purpose correlate pretty well with levels of depression and anxiety, iirc. Being unemployed increases risk factors for these mental illnesses, though there are many reasons for this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 11/16/17 6:30:53 PM #72:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Romes187 posted... Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... a really socialist country that calls itself a communist country is for all intents and purposes a communist country. Then you have to realize that you and I will never come to an understanding. If we can't even agree on what communism is, then there is no productive discussion to be had. That is really all there is to it. I'm really stupid and according to you I've never read a history book. I'd love to hear your take on what communism is so I can learn if that is the case :) How do you envision it working? You have the chance to convert someone :) I recommend the book The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression. I'll even pay for your copy if you want. Hah I was attempting to get the poster to actually give us his view on what communism is, and how he thinks he could implement it "correctly" and in a way that it is deserving of the title since the giant amount of blood in the 20th century was DEFINITELY not the work of communism..... except it was <cite>Romes187 posted [p:890526591] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> a really socialist country that calls itself a communist country is for all intents and purposes a communist country.</quote> Then you have to realize that you and I will never come to an understanding. If we can't even agree on what communism is, then there is no productive discussion to be had. That is really all there is to it.</quote> I'm really stupid and according to you I've never read a history book. I'd love to hear your take on what communism is so I can learn if that is the case :) How do you envision it working? You have the chance to convert someone :)</quote> I recommend the book The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression. I'll even pay for your copy if you want.</quote> Hah I was attempting to get the poster to actually give us his view on what communism is, and how he thinks he could implement it "correctly" and in a way that it is deserving of the title since the giant amount of blood in the 20th century was DEFINITELY not the work of communism..... except it was</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:31:58 PM #73:	Godnorgosh posted... Romes187 posted... Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... a really socialist country that calls itself a communist country is for all intents and purposes a communist country. Then you have to realize that you and I will never come to an understanding. If we can't even agree on what communism is, then there is no productive discussion to be had. That is really all there is to it. I'm really stupid and according to you I've never read a history book. I'd love to hear your take on what communism is so I can learn if that is the case :) How do you envision it working? You have the chance to convert someone :) I don't expect to "convert" anyone who has no interest in reading and learning. If you do, I'd be happy to have discussions about specific questions you have as you work through Capital. If not, then I'd rather you not waste my time. That is how this is going to go. I am not interested in "defending" communism from those who have no actual interest in learning what it is. I am not a proselytizer and I don't want you to espouse something you clearly don't understand. I read all of that stuff before and you're unable to answer my questions. The source material has no answers either because it was written a long time ago by ignorant people who could not envision the society we live in today. You espouse communism here. Expecting you to defend your worldview when questioned is fair. I don't think you're proselytizing anything. I think you're the one who doesn't understand how reality works, to be honest. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890526651] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> a really socialist country that calls itself a communist country is for all intents and purposes a communist country.</quote> Then you have to realize that you and I will never come to an understanding. If we can't even agree on what communism is, then there is no productive discussion to be had. That is really all there is to it.</quote> I'm really stupid and according to you I've never read a history book. I'd love to hear your take on what communism is so I can learn if that is the case :) How do you envision it working? You have the chance to convert someone :)</quote> I don't expect to "convert" anyone who has no interest in reading and learning. If you do, I'd be happy to have discussions about specific questions you have as you work through Capital. If not, then I'd rather you not waste my time. That is how this is going to go. I am not interested in "defending" communism from those who have no actual interest in learning what it is. I am not a proselytizer and I don't want you to espouse something you clearly don't understand.</quote> I read all of that stuff before and you're unable to answer my questions. The source material has no answers either because it was written a long time ago by ignorant people who could not envision the society we live in today. You espouse communism here. Expecting you to defend your worldview when questioned is fair. I don't think you're proselytizing anything. I think you're the one who doesn't understand how reality works, to be honest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 11/16/17 6:32:29 PM #74:	Could this guy be any more of a joke? --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:890526679] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote>Could this guy be any more of a joke?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:33:42 PM #75:	COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... This is a delusion. People in Europe work less than we do, some 30-35 hours for full-time work, and they claim to be happier as a result of it. And data supports that. Working less hours as we become more productive is good for mental health. You're being very dishonest. We're not too far off from the majority of European countries, in terms of average work hours. Measures of subjective purpose correlate pretty well with levels of depression and anxiety, iirc. Being unemployed increases risk factors for these mental illnesses, though there are many reasons for this. It's probably because being unemployed means you're not making any fucking money. How is this hard to understand? If your needs are taken care of and you can play videogames all day long, that wouldn't be the case anymore. It's why increasingly more and more young men are perfectly happy to live at home and play videogames all day rather than integrate into society. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-video-games-jobs-emploment-20160923-story.html You are offering a delusional idea if you are really going to argue that people would be happy to work challenging jobs for no profit. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890526747] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>This is a delusion. People in Europe work less than we do, some 30-35 hours for full-time work, and they claim to be happier as a result of it. And data supports that. Working less hours as we become more productive is good for mental health. You're being very dishonest. </quote> We're not too far off from the majority of European countries, in terms of average work hours. Measures of subjective purpose correlate pretty well with levels of depression and anxiety, iirc. Being unemployed increases risk factors for these mental illnesses, though there are many reasons for this.</quote> It's probably because being unemployed means you're not making any fucking money. How is this hard to understand? If your needs are taken care of and you can play videogames all day long, that wouldn't be the case anymore. It's why increasingly more and more young men are perfectly happy to live at home and play videogames all day rather than integrate into society. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-video-games-jobs-emploment-20160923-story.html You are offering a delusional idea if you are really going to argue that people would be happy to work challenging jobs for no profit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 11/16/17 6:34:10 PM #76:	CE certainly seems to enjoy discussing these particular part of race relations...why is that --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:890526774] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote>CE certainly seems to enjoy discussing these particular part of race relations...why is that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:34:20 PM #77:	SageHarpuia posted... Could this guy be any more of a joke? COVxy? Yeah, he's really gone off his fucking rocker in the last year or two. I made a topic about the number of communists on CE recently and some people laughed at the idea, but it's like these fucking people are coming out the woodworks all of a sudden. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890526782] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>Could this guy be any more of a joke?</quote> COVxy? Yeah, he's really gone off his fucking rocker in the last year or two. I made a topic about the number of communists on CE recently and some people laughed at the idea, but it's like these fucking people are coming out the woodworks all of a sudden.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/16/17 6:38:12 PM #78:	FLUFFYGERM posted... It's probably because being unemployed means you're not making any fucking money. How is this hard to understand? If your needs are taken care of and you can play videogames all day long, that wouldn't be the case anymore. It's why increasingly more and more young men are perfectly happy to live at home and play videogames all day rather than integrate into society. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-video-games-jobs-emploment-20160923-story.html You are offering a delusional idea if you are really going to argue that people would be happy to work challenging jobs for no profit. Did you ignore the second clause to that statement and the sentence before it? There's a lot of good evidence that 1. Motivations for work aren't driven purely by monetary incentive. 2. Low subjective sense of purpose correlates with poor affect and mental illness, particularly mood disorders. The hardline statements you are making in this topic are presupposing a purely monetary motivation with regards to work. This is superficial and inaccurate, and at best based on classical economic theory which is absolutely incorrect with regards to its description of reality. In reality, who knows exactly how much people will work, or how much they wont, but disregarding the possibility of the system because you believe monetary incentive is the only motivator in psychology is simply ignorant. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890527004] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>It's probably because being unemployed means you're not making any fucking money. How is this hard to understand? If your needs are taken care of and you can play videogames all day long, that wouldn't be the case anymore. It's why increasingly more and more young men are perfectly happy to live at home and play videogames all day rather than integrate into society. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-video-games-jobs-emploment-20160923-story.html You are offering a delusional idea if you are really going to argue that people would be happy to work challenging jobs for no profit. </quote> Did you ignore the second clause to that statement and the sentence before it? There's a lot of good evidence that 1. Motivations for work aren't driven purely by monetary incentive. 2. Low subjective sense of purpose correlates with poor affect and mental illness, particularly mood disorders. The hardline statements you are making in this topic are presupposing a purely monetary motivation with regards to work. This is superficial and inaccurate, and at best based on classical economic theory which is absolutely incorrect with regards to its description of reality. In reality, who knows exactly how much people will work, or how much they wont, but disregarding the possibility of the system because you believe monetary incentive is the only motivator in psychology is simply ignorant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:40:12 PM #79:	COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... It's probably because being unemployed means you're not making any fucking money. How is this hard to understand? If your needs are taken care of and you can play videogames all day long, that wouldn't be the case anymore. It's why increasingly more and more young men are perfectly happy to live at home and play videogames all day rather than integrate into society. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-video-games-jobs-emploment-20160923-story.html You are offering a delusional idea if you are really going to argue that people would be happy to work challenging jobs for no profit. Did you ignore the second clause to that statement and the sentence before it? There's a lot of good evidence that 1. Motivations for work aren't driven purely by monetary incentive. 2. Low subjective sense of purpose correlates with poor affect and mental illness, particularly mood disorders. The hardline statements you are making in this topic are presupposing a purely monetary motivation with regards to work. This is superficial and inaccurate, and at best based on classical economic theory which is absolutely incorrect with regards to it's description of reality. In reality, who knows exactly how much people will work, or how much they wont, but disregarding the possibility of the system because you believe monetary incentive is the only motivator in psychology is simply ignorant. We already know how much people will work if there is no hope of profit. The answer is zero work unless you subject them to force. People aren't going to work for free, and if working just to barter their way into subsistence is their only possibility they're just going to work the bare minimum. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-video-games-jobs-emploment-20160923-story.html These people don't feel the need to work and they're perfectly content to either barely work or not work at all, while they live at home for years and just play videogames. The vast majority of workers are motivated by profit. For the few people who can afford novelty in their career aspirations, they're still motivated by profit in large part. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890527097] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>It's probably because being unemployed means you're not making any fucking money. How is this hard to understand? If your needs are taken care of and you can play videogames all day long, that wouldn't be the case anymore. It's why increasingly more and more young men are perfectly happy to live at home and play videogames all day rather than integrate into society. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-video-games-jobs-emploment-20160923-story.html You are offering a delusional idea if you are really going to argue that people would be happy to work challenging jobs for no profit. </quote> Did you ignore the second clause to that statement and the sentence before it? There's a lot of good evidence that 1. Motivations for work aren't driven purely by monetary incentive. 2. Low subjective sense of purpose correlates with poor affect and mental illness, particularly mood disorders. The hardline statements you are making in this topic are presupposing a purely monetary motivation with regards to work. This is superficial and inaccurate, and at best based on classical economic theory which is absolutely incorrect with regards to it's description of reality. In reality, who knows exactly how much people will work, or how much they wont, but disregarding the possibility of the system because you believe monetary incentive is the only motivator in psychology is simply ignorant.</quote> We already know how much people will work if there is no hope of profit. The answer is zero work unless you subject them to force. People aren't going to work for free, and if working just to barter their way into subsistence is their only possibility they're just going to work the bare minimum. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-video-games-jobs-emploment-20160923-story.html These people don't feel the need to work and they're perfectly content to either barely work or not work at all, while they live at home for years and just play videogames. The vast majority of workers are motivated by profit. For the few people who can afford novelty in their career aspirations, they're still motivated by profit in large part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 11/16/17 6:41:41 PM #81:	FLUFFYGERM posted... We already know how much people will work if there is no hope of profit. No, no we don't. Lmao. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890527181] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>We already know how much people will work if there is no hope of profit.</quote> No, no we don't. Lmao.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:42:42 PM #82:	Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... I read all of that stuff before and you're unable to answer my questions. Okay, without looking it up, what are the two basic formulae for the circulation of commodities and money that Marx distinguishes in Capital, Vol. 1? And what is the general formula for capital? What a stupid question. If I really didn't know the answers to your pop quiz, what would keep me from looking it up and lying that I knew it? Unless this was a live conversation there'd be no way for you to know if I know or not. Are you really going to quiz me on a message board, about Marx's lunacy and religious views? As if that proves I'm not lying and as if that somehow explains away the massive holes I've brought up before? --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890527247] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>I read all of that stuff before and you're unable to answer my questions.</quote> Okay, without looking it up, what are the two basic formulae for the circulation of commodities and money that Marx distinguishes in Capital, Vol. 1? And what is the general formula for capital?</quote> What a stupid question. If I really didn't know the answers to your pop quiz, what would keep me from looking it up and lying that I knew it? Unless this was a live conversation there'd be no way for you to know if I know or not. Are you really going to quiz me on a message board, about Marx's lunacy and religious views? As if that proves I'm not lying and as if that somehow explains away the massive holes I've brought up before?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:43:43 PM #84:	COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... We already know how much people will work if there is no hope of profit. No, no we don't. Lmao. Yes, we do. See: Labor in Communist Romania. People worked the bare minimum (except for the ones who were subject to force). --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890527319] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>We already know how much people will work if there is no hope of profit.</quote> No, no we don't. Lmao.</quote> Yes, we do. See: Labor in Communist Romania. People worked the bare minimum (except for the ones who were subject to force).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 11/16/17 6:43:43 PM #85:	COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... We already know how much people will work if there is no hope of profit. No, no we don't. Lmao. Everyone but COVxy --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army.* <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:890527320] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>We already know how much people will work if there is no hope of profit.</quote> No, no we don't. Lmao.</quote> *Everyone but COVxy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:44:06 PM #86:	Godnorgosh posted... Yeah, it's obvious enough that you haven't read it. Haha dude you're such a clown. Holy shit lmao --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890527347] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it's obvious enough that you haven't read it.</quote> Haha dude you're such a clown. Holy shit lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/16/17 6:44:23 PM #87:	FLUFFYGERM posted... COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... We already know how much people will work if there is no hope of profit. No, no we don't. Lmao. Yes, we do. See: Labor in Communist Romania. People worked the bare minimum (except for the ones who were subject to force). You don't understand basic evidence based reasoning, and every time you post about anything it becomes more and more clear. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890527369] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>We already know how much people will work if there is no hope of profit.</quote> No, no we don't. Lmao.</quote> Yes, we do. See: Labor in Communist Romania. People worked the bare minimum (except for the ones who were subject to force).</quote> You don't understand basic evidence based reasoning, and every time you post about anything it becomes more and more clear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:45:35 PM #88:	COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... We already know how much people will work if there is no hope of profit. No, no we don't. Lmao. Yes, we do. See: Labor in Communist Romania. People worked the bare minimum (except for the ones who were subject to force). You don't understand basic evidence based reasoning, and every time you post about anything it becomes more and more clear. No, you're a dishonest weasel who can't even answer straight up if he supports communism or not. And for someone who talks about basic evidence based reasoning you sure like to make assertions about what people work for, as long as you keep repeating what you already agree with lmao. Even when contrary evidence (like that link I shared) is posted. You're a clown too, bro. Just like Godnorgosh. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890527438] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>We already know how much people will work if there is no hope of profit.</quote> No, no we don't. Lmao.</quote> Yes, we do. See: Labor in Communist Romania. People worked the bare minimum (except for the ones who were subject to force).</quote> You don't understand basic evidence based reasoning, and every time you post about anything it becomes more and more clear.</quote> No, you're a dishonest weasel who can't even answer straight up if he supports communism or not. And for someone who talks about basic evidence based reasoning you sure like to make assertions about what people work for, as long as you keep repeating what you already agree with lmao. Even when contrary evidence (like that link I shared) is posted. You're a clown too, bro. Just like Godnorgosh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:46:37 PM #89:	@Godnorgosh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital,_Volume_I There's absolutely nothing stopping me from reading through this and answering your pop quiz if I hadn't already. To say that not answering your pop quiz administered through a fucking message board is evidence that I've not read it is hilarious and dishonest. Have a great day. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890527494] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote>@Godnorgosh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital,_Volume_I There's absolutely nothing stopping me from reading through this and answering your pop quiz if I hadn't already. To say that not answering your pop quiz administered through a fucking message board is evidence that I've not read it is hilarious and dishonest. Have a great day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 6:47:54 PM #91:	Godnorgosh posted... Better tag him as an evil commie sympathizer! I've got a much better tag for him, actually. One reserved for the most dishonest of weasely CEmen. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890527567] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>Better tag him as an evil commie sympathizer!</quote> I've got a much better tag for him, actually. One reserved for the most dishonest of weasely CEmen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 11/16/17 6:57:01 PM #92:	FrisbeeDude posted... CE certainly seems to enjoy discussing these particular part of race relations...why is that It's because it's the giant fucking elephant in the room that nobody on the left wants to address - that a lot of times, what is perceived as racism by black people and the left at large is not only justified, but not racist in any way. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:890528076] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>CE certainly seems to enjoy discussing these particular part of race relations...why is that </quote> It's because it's the giant fucking elephant in the room that nobody on the left wants to address - that a lot of times, what is perceived as racism by black people and the left at large is not only justified, but not racist in any way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 7:06:46 PM #93:	Romes187 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Romes187 posted... Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... a really socialist country that calls itself a communist country is for all intents and purposes a communist country. Then you have to realize that you and I will never come to an understanding. If we can't even agree on what communism is, then there is no productive discussion to be had. That is really all there is to it. I'm really stupid and according to you I've never read a history book. I'd love to hear your take on what communism is so I can learn if that is the case :) How do you envision it working? You have the chance to convert someone :) I recommend the book The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression. I'll even pay for your copy if you want. Hah I was attempting to get the poster to actually give us his view on what communism is, and how he thinks he could implement it "correctly" and in a way that it is deserving of the title since the giant amount of blood in the 20th century was DEFINITELY not the work of communism..... except it was These people won't bother to explain their religion to anyone. They will just accuse you of not understanding it and then they'll assassinate your character or just ramp up their attempts at indoctrinating the naive youth. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890528640] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> a really socialist country that calls itself a communist country is for all intents and purposes a communist country.</quote> Then you have to realize that you and I will never come to an understanding. If we can't even agree on what communism is, then there is no productive discussion to be had. That is really all there is to it.</quote> I'm really stupid and according to you I've never read a history book. I'd love to hear your take on what communism is so I can learn if that is the case :) How do you envision it working? You have the chance to convert someone :)</quote> I recommend the book The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression. I'll even pay for your copy if you want.</quote> Hah I was attempting to get the poster to actually give us his view on what communism is, and how he thinks he could implement it "correctly" and in a way that it is deserving of the title since the giant amount of blood in the 20th century was DEFINITELY not the work of communism..... except it was</quote> These people won't bother to explain their religion to anyone. They will just accuse you of not understanding it and then they'll assassinate your character or just ramp up their attempts at indoctrinating the naive youth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 11/16/17 7:10:30 PM #94:	FLUFFYGERM posted... These people won't bother to explain their religion to anyone. They will just accuse you of not understanding it and then they'll assassinate your character or just ramp up their attempts at indoctrinating the naive youth. I just can't fathom why it's so hard to look at what that philosophy brought and see that it's no good. Though you'll have a bunch of college grads thinking that if only THEY were in Stalin's / Mao's shoes, they would usher in the utopia...then it'd be REAL communism/socialism/marxism/whatever term they want to hide behind <cite>Romes187 posted [p:890528852] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>These people won't bother to explain their religion to anyone. They will just accuse you of not understanding it and then they'll assassinate your character or just ramp up their attempts at indoctrinating the naive youth. </quote> I just can't fathom why it's so hard to look at what that philosophy brought and see that it's no good. Though you'll have a bunch of college grads thinking that if only THEY were in Stalin's / Mao's shoes, they would usher in the utopia...then it'd be REAL communism/socialism/marxism/whatever term they want to hide behind</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BigSLM1993 11/16/17 7:15:03 PM #95:	Wow this topic to a huge split from Michael Brown >_> I was expecting arguments over BLM. Not marxism / communism. <cite>BigSLM1993 posted [p:890529126] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote>Wow this topic to a huge split from Michael Brown >_> I was expecting arguments over BLM. Not marxism / communism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/16/17 7:17:16 PM #96:	FLUFFYGERM posted... No, you're a dishonest weasel who can't even answer straight up if he supports communism or not. Supports or not isn't the point, it's a distraction from the conversation at hand. None-the-less, I think it's silly to hold dogmatic principles regarding any of these philosophical systems. FLUFFYGERM posted... And for someone who talks about basic evidence based reasoning you sure like to make assertions about what people work for, as long as you keep repeating what you already agree with lmao. Even when contrary evidence (like that link I shared) is posted. The point I made is that people aren't solely motivated by money. A supposition only made by basic economic theory that has been debunked time and time again by proper experimentation. This is blatently obvious when you examine the basic animal learning literature on primary vs secondary rewards. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890529251] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>No, you're a dishonest weasel who can't even answer straight up if he supports communism or not.</quote> Supports or not isn't the point, it's a distraction from the conversation at hand. None-the-less, I think it's silly to hold dogmatic principles regarding any of these philosophical systems. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>And for someone who talks about basic evidence based reasoning you sure like to make assertions about what people work for, as long as you keep repeating what you already agree with lmao. Even when contrary evidence (like that link I shared) is posted.</quote> The point I made is that people aren't solely motivated by money. A supposition only made by basic economic theory that has been debunked time and time again by proper experimentation. This is blatently obvious when you examine the basic animal learning literature on primary vs secondary rewards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 7:21:36 PM #98:	Romes187 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... These people won't bother to explain their religion to anyone. They will just accuse you of not understanding it and then they'll assassinate your character or just ramp up their attempts at indoctrinating the naive youth. I just can't fathom why it's so hard to look at what that philosophy brought and see that it's no good. Though you'll have a bunch of college grads thinking that if only THEY were in Stalin's / Mao's shoes, they would usher in the utopia...then it'd be REAL communism/socialism/marxism/whatever term they want to hide behind I think it's because the people who haven't succeeded at something want to drag everyone down with them, rather than focusing on improving and succeeding at something. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890529533] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>These people won't bother to explain their religion to anyone. They will just accuse you of not understanding it and then they'll assassinate your character or just ramp up their attempts at indoctrinating the naive youth. </quote> I just can't fathom why it's so hard to look at what that philosophy brought and see that it's no good. Though you'll have a bunch of college grads thinking that if only THEY were in Stalin's / Mao's shoes, they would usher in the utopia...then it'd be REAL communism/socialism/marxism/whatever term they want to hide behind</quote> I think it's because the people who haven't succeeded at something want to drag everyone down with them, rather than focusing on improving and succeeding at something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 7:22:43 PM #99:	COVxy posted... The point I made is that people aren't solely motivated by money. A supposition only made by basic economic theory that has been debunked time and time again by proper experimentation. People aren't always motivated entirely by money. But that's because work is done for money. If money was no longer an option, most people would not work any more. You really think that people would put in 40 hours at a grueling job for no profit? Do most people work a job they love? No. It's pretty simple. Not sure why you're desperate to defend communism in this way. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890529600] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>The point I made is that people aren't solely motivated by money. A supposition only made by basic economic theory that has been debunked time and time again by proper experimentation. </quote> People aren't always motivated entirely by money. But that's because work is done for money. If money was no longer an option, most people would not work any more. You really think that people would put in 40 hours at a grueling job for no profit? Do most people work a job they love? No. It's pretty simple. Not sure why you're desperate to defend communism in this way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/16/17 7:25:05 PM #100:	That wasn't exactly coherent. If you aren't making the claim that people are only motivated by monetary incentive, then you cannot make the claim that people wouldn't work. Pretty simple. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890529743] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote>That wasn't exactly coherent. If you aren't making the claim that people are only motivated by monetary incentive, then you cannot make the claim that people wouldn't work. Pretty simple.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 11/16/17 7:25:45 PM #101:	FLUFFYGERM posted... I think it's because the people who haven't succeeded at something want to drag everyone down with them, rather than focusing on improving and succeeding at something. reportquote Well yeah - they've also been told that the system is completely against them due to power structures that they cannot control. Like...yeah thats partially true. But nature itself is against us all...its not just social structures. So they get all resentful and they don't care about the poor, they just hate the rich <cite>Romes187 posted [p:890529781] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>I think it's because the people who haven't succeeded at something want to drag everyone down with them, rather than focusing on improving and succeeding at something. reportquote </quote> Well yeah - they've also been told that the system is completely against them due to power structures that they cannot control. Like...yeah thats partially true. But nature itself is against us all...its not just social structures. So they get all resentful and they don't care about the poor, they just hate the rich</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/16/17 7:26:48 PM #102:	COVxy posted... That wasn't exactly coherent. If you aren't making the claim that people are only motivated by monetary incentive, then you cannot make the claim that people wouldn't work. Pretty simple. It is coherent. It's very simple, actually. People are not motivated solely by money when money is part of the picture. Because the money is a given, so they'll seek additional novelty or something of the sort to supplement the money. If you took the money away, though, it'd be just a job and no one would want just a job. Most people do not work a job out of love or passion. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890529831] in Lmao when ... [t:75996756]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>That wasn't exactly coherent. If you aren't making the claim that people are only motivated by monetary incentive, then you cannot make the claim that people wouldn't work. Pretty simple.</quote> It is coherent. It's very simple, actually. People are not motivated solely by money when money is part of the picture. Because the money is a given, so they'll seek additional novelty or something of the sort to supplement the money. If you took the money away, though, it'd be just a job and no one would want just a job. Most people do not work a job out of love or passion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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