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LRodC
11/11/17 7:42:43 PM
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Would you rather have fascism or communism?


They would both be real. Discuss.
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K181
11/11/17 7:43:49 PM
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Well, I have more than enough Jewish ancestry in me to think that I'd be fucked under a fascist regime especially, so communism by default.
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gunplagirl
11/11/17 7:46:08 PM
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Communism because I actually have humanity
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Kamala_Harris
11/11/17 7:46:27 PM
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I hate the idea of living in communism I think they standard of living would be really bad so I picked fascism
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scorpion41
11/11/17 7:47:21 PM
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Communism always devolves into fascism in some form
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averagejoel
11/11/17 7:49:50 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Communism always devolves into fascism in some form

what
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Antifar
11/11/17 7:49:56 PM
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Strider101
11/11/17 7:50:14 PM
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Lel. All the people voting for communism have no idea what real communism is. Russia, China & North Korea are not actual working communist societies btw. In communism, there is no concept of currency or private ownership. Basically, you don't own anything. Anyone can take whatever they want. Anyone can sleep/live wherever they please. You don't have a house of your own. Anyone can come and settle there. I wonder if all these people voting for communism would be okay with that.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/11/17 7:51:16 PM
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Fascism, because then at least we wouldn't starve.
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averagejoel
11/11/17 7:52:19 PM
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Strider101 posted...
Lel. All the people voting for communism have no idea what real communism is. Russia, China & North Korea are not actual working communist societies btw. In communism, there is no concept of currency or private ownership. Basically, you don't own anything. Anyone can take whatever they want. Anyone can sleep/live wherever they please. You don't have a house of your own. Anyone can come and settle there. I wonder if all these people voting for communism would be okay with that.

google "personal property vs. private property" then come back here
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Unsugarized_Foo
11/11/17 7:52:44 PM
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You might luck out with fascism and get a King Author type dude to bro the country
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Zikten
11/11/17 7:54:47 PM
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K181 posted...
Well, I have more than enough Jewish ancestry in me to think that I'd be fucked under a fascist regime especially, so communism by default.

Not all fascism is the same. It's even possible to have Jewish fascists. It doesn't mean Nazi. All Nazis are fascists but not all fascists are nazis
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FLUFFYGERM
11/11/17 7:55:23 PM
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Zikten posted...
K181 posted...
Well, I have more than enough Jewish ancestry in me to think that I'd be fucked under a fascist regime especially, so communism by default.

Not all fascism is the same. It's even possible to have Jewish fascists. It doesn't mean Nazi. All Nazis are fascists but not all fascists are nazis


Yep. Italy and Japan were fascist states during WW2 too.
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Gamer99z
11/11/17 7:56:57 PM
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averagejoel posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Communism always devolves into fascism in some form

what

He just means that historically communism has turned into fascism. On paper it shouldn't happen, but realistically Communism in practice has always given few people too much power. And since the government runs everything, all it needs as a single corrupt leader and then literally everything is fucked.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/11/17 7:58:55 PM
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in before averagejoel shitposts about people infiltrating communist countries and ruining their power structure

even though the countries in his wikipedia link were falling apart of their own accord since communism doesn't work
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Kaname_Madoka
11/11/17 7:59:16 PM
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Communism. Both are terrible, but communism is far less terrible.
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ROBANN_88
11/11/17 8:00:27 PM
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no matter which one you choose, there's probably gonna be a genocide
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cerealbox760
11/11/17 8:04:08 PM
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Handmaids Tale TV series portrays modern day fascism right? If so, then I pick fascism because more people have died under communism than fascism.
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literal_garbage
11/11/17 8:04:08 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
in before averagejoel shitposts about people infiltrating communist countries and ruining their power structure

even though the countries in his wikipedia link were falling apart of their own accord since communism doesn't work

I dont know why all of these liberal cucks keep denying how successful and long lasting fascism has been in the past.
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averagejoel
11/11/17 8:04:22 PM
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Gamer99z posted...
averagejoel posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Communism always devolves into fascism in some form

what

He just means that historically communism has turned into fascism. On paper it shouldn't happen, but realistically Communism in practice has always given few people too much power. And since the government runs everything, all it needs as a single corrupt leader and then literally everything is fucked.

no it hasn't

communism is a stateless, money-less society. is the final stage of socialism, and it has never been reached. the government doesn't run anything, because there is no government at that point. it's anarchistic
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Strider101
11/11/17 8:05:11 PM
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averagejoel posted...
Strider101 posted...
Lel. All the people voting for communism have no idea what real communism is. Russia, China & North Korea are not actual working communist societies btw. In communism, there is no concept of currency or private ownership. Basically, you don't own anything. Anyone can take whatever they want. Anyone can sleep/live wherever they please. You don't have a house of your own. Anyone can come and settle there. I wonder if all these people voting for communism would be okay with that.

google "personal property vs. private property" then come back here


Your point?
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ThyCorndog
11/11/17 8:06:42 PM
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literal_garbage posted...
how successful and long lasting fascism has been in the past.

I... what? Where? Fascism was invented in response to communism as a counter ideology

nvm I think you're being sarcastic
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Antifar
11/11/17 8:08:41 PM
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Strider101 posted...
Your point?

Nobody's going to steal your toothbrush
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averagejoel
11/11/17 8:08:58 PM
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Strider101 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Strider101 posted...
Lel. All the people voting for communism have no idea what real communism is. Russia, China & North Korea are not actual working communist societies btw. In communism, there is no concept of currency or private ownership. Basically, you don't own anything. Anyone can take whatever they want. Anyone can sleep/live wherever they please. You don't have a house of your own. Anyone can come and settle there. I wonder if all these people voting for communism would be okay with that.

google "personal property vs. private property" then come back here


Your point?

you don't know what you're talking about
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FLUFFYGERM
11/11/17 8:10:05 PM
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Antifar posted...
Strider101 posted...
Your point?

Nobody's going to steal your toothbrush


Because under communism nobody would even have toothbrushes anymore
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cerealbox760
11/11/17 8:10:13 PM
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averagejoel posted...
Gamer99z posted...
averagejoel posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Communism always devolves into fascism in some form

what

He just means that historically communism has turned into fascism. On paper it shouldn't happen, but realistically Communism in practice has always given few people too much power. And since the government runs everything, all it needs as a single corrupt leader and then literally everything is fucked.

no it hasn't

communism is a stateless, money-less society. is the final stage of socialism, and it has never been reached. the government doesn't run anything, because there is no government at that point. it's anarchistic

This form of communism would work if all the means of production were automated by robots. Solar energy, 3d printing, self driving cars etc. Theres only so much you can take. If there's an abundance of resources it would work better than fascism.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/11/17 8:11:50 PM
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cerealbox760 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Gamer99z posted...
averagejoel posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Communism always devolves into fascism in some form

what

He just means that historically communism has turned into fascism. On paper it shouldn't happen, but realistically Communism in practice has always given few people too much power. And since the government runs everything, all it needs as a single corrupt leader and then literally everything is fucked.

no it hasn't

communism is a stateless, money-less society. is the final stage of socialism, and it has never been reached. the government doesn't run anything, because there is no government at that point. it's anarchistic

This form of communism would work if all the means of production were automated by robots. Solar energy, 3d printing, self driving cars etc. Theres only so much you can take. If there's an abundance of resources it would work better than fascism.


I've always been an advocate for automating everything, and what I'll say is that automating everything would NOT be communism. The means of production wouldn't be owned by a collective - there'd just be a huge number of supply chains for everything, with the cost of spinning up more means of production being very small. There'd be no dependence on other people, as everyone would be entirely self sufficient.
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Hop103
11/11/17 8:13:00 PM
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Neither, both are completely evil and tyrannical.
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Pitlord_Special
11/11/17 8:13:25 PM
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Fully automated luxury gay space communism
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Hexenherz
11/11/17 8:14:17 PM
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lol @ the communism votes.
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Grindcorp9000
11/11/17 8:16:16 PM
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Communism because it is the moral decision.
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ThePrinceFish
11/11/17 8:16:55 PM
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Fascism because I don't want my family to starve.
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weapon_d00d816
11/11/17 8:19:05 PM
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Kamala_Harris posted...
I hate the idea of living in communism I think they standard of living would be really bad so I picked fascism

Yeah, if you're in the right group, you should go fascism here. A life under communism is depressing and dehumanizing. A life under fascism is going to be freer assuming you aren't targeted.

It's kind of a high-risk moderate-reward sort of thing vs moderate-risk low-reward.
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josifrees
11/11/17 8:20:09 PM
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Communism because I dont want my family to be murdered for no reason
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FLUFFYGERM
11/11/17 8:20:47 PM
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josifrees posted...
Communism because I dont want my family to be murdered for no reason


All of the most socialist countries have murdered tons of people. Communists have killed more people than even the Nazis did.
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Grindcorp9000
11/11/17 8:22:56 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
Grindcorp9000 posted...
Communism because it is the moral decision.


Grindcorp9000 posted...
Nationalism is a malignant cancer
which must be carved out by the blade of individualism.

Pick one bro


Refers to white nationalism.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/11/17 8:23:19 PM
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Grindcorp9000 posted...
16-BITTER posted...
Grindcorp9000 posted...
Communism because it is the moral decision.


Grindcorp9000 posted...
Nationalism is a malignant cancer
which must be carved out by the blade of individualism.

Pick one bro


Refers to white nationalism.


Communism is anti-individualism.
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literal_garbage
11/11/17 8:24:06 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
Grindcorp9000 posted...
Communism because it is the moral decision.


Grindcorp9000 posted...
Nationalism is a malignant cancer
which must be carved out by the blade of individualism.

Pick one bro

I know, right? I dont think fascism has any nationalist views at all and he still goes and says this
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averagejoel
11/11/17 8:26:12 PM
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literal_garbage posted...
16-BITTER posted...
Grindcorp9000 posted...
Communism because it is the moral decision.


Grindcorp9000 posted...
Nationalism is a malignant cancer
which must be carved out by the blade of individualism.

Pick one bro

I know, right? I dont think fascism has any nationalist views at all and he still goes and says this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism_(disambiguation)
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weapon_d00d816
11/11/17 8:27:29 PM
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literal_garbage posted...
16-BITTER posted...
Grindcorp9000 posted...
Communism because it is the moral decision.


Grindcorp9000 posted...
Nationalism is a malignant cancer
which must be carved out by the blade of individualism.

Pick one bro

I know, right? I dont think fascism has any nationalist views at all and he still goes and says this

Bro nationalism is the central aspect of fascism

It's like saying communism isn't about the working class
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Antifar
11/11/17 8:28:12 PM
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Have people not figured out that literal_garbage is being sarcastic like 90% of the time?
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hockeybub89
11/11/17 8:28:17 PM
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dr_zomberg
11/11/17 8:29:23 PM
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according to cownomics, i have two cows. under fascism, they take them and shoot me.
under communism, they take them and give me the milk (for free).

communism all the way.
even though nazis had better music (no joke, horst wessel lied is a fantastic beer party song)
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FLUFFYGERM
11/11/17 8:29:32 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
33 votes for communism, jfc


ftfy
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literal_garbage
11/11/17 8:30:16 PM
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Antifar posted...
Have people not figured out that literal_garbage is being sarcastic like 90% of the time?

I would never lower the quality of this great board by doing something like that, shill
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