Poll of the Day > Do you want the u.s. to get rid of daylight savings time?

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I'm mostly indifferent toward it all, so I'm cool with leaving things as is.
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Leave it at whichever one the summer one is, the one we just left. I hate when it gets dark at 5. I've been considering moving to Arizona and that's one nice thing about it there.
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arizona has dst doesn't it? i think all the states do
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UT1999 posted...

arizona has dst doesn't it? i think all the states do

No, not all states. I believe Indiana doesn't follow it either.
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I honestly don't mind it. It's nice in the summer when you can spend more time outdoors until later, and it's fine in the winter where you're not going to be spending time outside anyway, so might as well have it light during your drive to work in the morning.
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I like the Indian saying, only the white man would think that you get a longer quilt by cutting off the beginning of the quilt and sewing it to the end of it.

I honestly don't care, it is in inconvenience twice a year, then it becomes an afterthought. If anything I would get rid of property taxes as those are an inconvenience just as often and actually cost money.
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wah_wah_wah posted...

I like the Indian saying, only the white man would think that you get a longer quilt by cutting off the beginning of the quilt and sewing it to the end of it.

Not the same thing at all.
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jsb0714 posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

I like the Indian saying, only the white man would think that you get a longer quilt by cutting off the beginning of the quilt and sewing it to the end of it.

Not the same thing at all.

It sure isn't, if you don't think about it at all

wah_wah_wah posted...

jsb0714 posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

I like the Indian saying, only the white man would think that you get a longer quilt by cutting off the beginning of the quilt and sewing it to the end of it.

Not the same thing at all.

It sure isn't, if you don't think about it at all

Which you didn't.
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jsb0714 posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

jsb0714 posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

I like the Indian saying, only the white man would think that you get a longer quilt by cutting off the beginning of the quilt and sewing it to the end of it.

Not the same thing at all.

It sure isn't, if you don't think about it at all

Which you didn't.

Sure, enjoy my block list

just reading it i think wah wah wah was right, c'mon man there ain't nothin wrong with admitting you're wrong sometimes. See that shit on this site all the time. Defend till the end.
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UT1999 posted...

just reading it i think wah wah wah was right, c'mon man there ain't nothin wrong with admitting you're wrong sometimes. See that shit on this site all the time. Defend till the end.

He didn't even make a defense after multiple posts. He just said I was wrong over and over again with no explanation. It was pretty sad. I mean it's Daylight Savings Time, not Logic Savings Time.

I hate how the question is always "keep DST or get rid of it?"

We spend MORE days of the year in DST than we do in supposedly "standard" time. The question should really be, "switch permanently to DST or not?"
To which I say yes! I love having the extra sunlight in the evening and it's super depressing to leave work and it's already pitch dark. I don't care if it's bright in the morning or not, if anything...I'd welcome not having the glare of the rising sun in my eyes when I'm trying to drive to work, barely awake.

streamofthesky posted...

I hate how the question is always "keep DST or get rid of it?"

We spend MORE days of the year in DST than we do in supposedly "standard" time. The question should really be, "switch permanently to DST or not?"
To which I say yes! I love having the extra sunlight in the evening and it's super depressing to leave work and it's already pitch dark. I don't care if it's bright in the morning or not, if anything...I'd welcome not having the glare of the rising sun in my eyes when I'm trying to drive to work, barely awake.

Summed up my thoughts perfectly
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I'm like "Why the fuck didn't they get rid of this 40 years ago?!"

wah_wah_wah posted...

I like the Indian saying, only the white man would think that you get a longer quilt by cutting off the beginning of the quilt and sewing it to the end of it.

The idea isn't that the day is longer, you're just changing what times of day you have daylight for.

yeah but some people kinda believe that it gives them more time in certain times of the day, i think that's what he meant
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It is an asinine practice, but I prefer darkness and cold anyway.

Why was it invented in the first place? It's not like it affects people's daily schedules.
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ChouBF posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

I like the Indian saying, only the white man would think that you get a longer quilt by cutting off the beginning of the quilt and sewing it to the end of it.

The idea isn't that the day is longer, you're just changing what times of day you have daylight for.

It is called Daylight Savings Time. Think about what the word "savings" mean... you don't save daylight by changing the times. It is the same amount of daylight regardless of what time the daylight is observed.

wah_wah_wah posted...

ChouBF posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

I like the Indian saying, only the white man would think that you get a longer quilt by cutting off the beginning of the quilt and sewing it to the end of it.

The idea isn't that the day is longer, you're just changing what times of day you have daylight for.

It is called Daylight Savings Time. Think about what the word "savings" mean... you don't save daylight by changing the times. It is the same amount of daylight regardless of what time the daylight is observed.

Correct, it's saving daylight for the times when people are expected to be awake and thus able to utilize it.

ChouBF posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

ChouBF posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

I like the Indian saying, only the white man would think that you get a longer quilt by cutting off the beginning of the quilt and sewing it to the end of it.

The idea isn't that the day is longer, you're just changing what times of day you have daylight for.

It is called Daylight Savings Time. Think about what the word "savings" mean... you don't save daylight by changing the times. It is the same amount of daylight regardless of what time the daylight is observed.

Correct, it's saving daylight for the times when people are expected to be awake and thus able to utilize it.

But it doesn't save more daylight, for them or anyone.

I dont really mind it, it was nice gaining an hour last night.
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Yes. I find DST inconvenient.
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it's pointless. still the same amount of time in the day
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J_Dawg983 posted...

I dont really mind it, it was nice gaining an hour last night.

It screws up your circadian rhythm, increases the amount of driving and on-work accidents during the period of the switch, increases the risk of suicides during the period of the switch, likely causes various negative long term health effects, and numerous recent studies show that it actually increases electricity usage despite one of the intended goals of it being to reduce it. It's a terrible practice.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

it's pointless. still the same amount of time in the day

Yeah, you and everyone else saying this. We know.

It's not about getting more sunlight hours. It's about shifting when we get them.

Saving =/= "getting more of something" necessarily. If you shut off a battery-powered light source or device when not using it to "save" battery life, you're not getting more battery life. You're getting more of it when you actually want to have it.

I can't believe this needed a PSA, but fucking shit all these comments criticizing the name...

Keep Daylight Saving Time all year round. Get rid of Daylight Wasting Time.
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streamofthesky posted...

Krazy_Kirby posted...

it's pointless. still the same amount of time in the day

Yeah, you and everyone else saying this. We know.

It's not about getting more sunlight hours. It's about shifting when we get them.

Saving =/= "getting more of something" necessarily. If you shut off a battery-powered light source or device when not using it to "save" battery life, you're not getting more battery life. You're getting more of it when you actually want to have it.

I can't believe this needed a PSA, but fucking shit all these comments criticizing the name...

Daylight doesn't drain like a battery to have to be recharged later. That is not what Daylight Savings Time does. So your analogy makes no sense in this context and is stupid. I can't believe you needed to say something stupid too.

"its about shifting when we get them"

bullshit. the sunlight is going to be there at the same time, regardless of what the clock says.
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Frankly, this "spring forward, fall back" shit is for the birds.

Stick with one and be done with it.
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Yeah it is fucking dumb

Get rid of time zones too. Just have the entire world on the same time. It would seem a little weird at first but in the end it would simplify so much.
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

"its about shifting when we get them"

bullshit. the sunlight is going to be there at the same time, regardless of what the clock says.

No. Observe how the times of sunrise and sunset literally change each day, because the length of each day is also changing. https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/new-zealand/auckland?month=9

Daylight savings starting here is useful because it means when you get to December, you don't have sunrise before 5am, when few people are awake https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/new-zealand/auckland?month=12 It shifts back in April because we'd otherwise have sunrise at 8:30 am, and most people want to start their days before that.

As was stated earlier, it's about maximising the the daylight for times you're awake.
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robrobd posted...

Krazy_Kirby posted...

"its about shifting when we get them"

bullshit. the sunlight is going to be there at the same time, regardless of what the clock says.

No. Observe how the times of sunrise and sunset literally change each day, because the length of each day is also changing. https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/new-zealand/auckland?month=9

Daylight savings starting here is useful because it means when you get to December, you don't have sunrise before 5am, when few people are awake https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/new-zealand/auckland?month=12 It shifts back in April because we'd otherwise have sunrise at 8:30 am, and most people want to start their days before that.

As was stated earlier, it's about maximising the the daylight for times you're awake.

nothing is stopping them from doing so, unless they are an idiot
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I don't want them to get rid of it, but I want them to have permanant DST.
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Feels good to get that hour back, now scrap it before we go forward again in March
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